Hey y'all, hope you enjoyed this episode of Deep Dives! Let us know which film you think contains the most accurate depiction of a U.S. President in history in the comments below! 👇
Howdy History Hit. I liked Bryan Cranston's portrayal of Johnson. I think he really got across the sense of frustration and how what we think it must be like versus the reality of situations. It just felt the most human to me, whereas some of the other's seem overly-dramatic (as if every scene in their life was this epic moment or something) or kinda cardboard cut-out representations to appease what the audience thinks they already know. You could really feel how wily he was as a politician with years of experience. Maybe it was easier to do with Johnson because of like what you mentioned, he wasn't really a movie star glitzy or the people's choice President, and so most people don't have so many preconceptions and are more open to actually just experiencing the reality of what it was like (or close to, it is a film after all) by watching that film. I'd say the Harry Truman portrayal comes second, for similar reasons, but it wasn't really about him so much. Anyway thanks.
The Cuban Missile Crisis did It for me because I remember it so well! We were all hiding under our desks at school! (Safety Drills) As if THAT would save us! I also remember the Assination of JFK vividly! I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing when it happened! Everything changed after that!
Your channel propagates so many falsehoods that now I automatically question anyone's credentials who appears in your thumbnails. You have gone the Horrible Histories route into irrelevance.
Daniel Day-Lewis as Lincoln may be my favorite portrayal of any historical figure of all time. The gravitas that he carries on to the screen is incredible.
This reminds us of the importance of character when choosing a President. This goes for all government offices, but especially for the Presidency, because its power is a single person. In the US Constitution, Congress is the first branch of three co-equal branches. The Executive branch is second. The idea is to spread power out, to avoid the hazards that come when power is concentrated.
During the Cuban Missile Crisis, I was a small child (5 yrs old?) and I remember at a site near where I lived, the silos were open and ICBM'S aimed. In my youth, it was like Disneyland. I did not know at the time, that my mother was trying not to panic because she was alone with 3 young children and my father was away on business so she didn't know if we were all going to die. I also remember when the missiles were lowered back into the silos and being disappointed at not seeing them anymore. Thank the gods this did get resolved.
If you read Doris Kearn Goodwin’s a Team Of Rivals upon which the movie is based, she details the genius of Lincoln and how he knew when the time would be right to move ahead with the abolition of slavery as he needed Congress to pass the amendment. He knew if tried too early and failed, he may never succeed nor be re-elected.
The Cuban Missile crisis is fascinating. The world was really on the brink of apocalypse and very few people know how close it really came. I actually have Vasili Arkhipov's name tattooed on myself. Not many people can claim to have single handedly saved all of humanity.
After the Kennedy docuseries my outlook on Johnson changed. Jackie said she entered AF1, still bloody, and there was LBJ laying on the bed. Hands beneath his head, cowboy boots on, etc
We just need to be EXTRA careful about who gets into the White House from now until its reversed, or everything will be lost. This issue will be hammered to no end from now on in future confirmation hearings also, for whatever that is worth.
Dan Hedaya as Richard Nixon in Dick is the best by far (He was actually pretty good)..On a serious note, even though it wasn't movie, I thought Gary Sinise as Truman in the series on HBO was excellent.
Daniel Day-Lewis version Lincoln more realistic than Dennis Weaver version of him. Some of us were children during the Cuban missile crisis, and the thought of being draft into Vietnam war when we turn 18 was also on our minds.
In real life, when Nixon said, "Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal," he was asked about whether the president can do something illegal if it deemed supportive of US interests, like arresting anti-Vietnam War protestors or other groups.
Richard Nixon has such a distinctive look and persona that it'd be next to impossible to get someone to play him. The guy they chose... looks absolutely nothing like him. I didn't even recognise it as Nixon until it was said that he was Nixon
What a choice crop of presidents to cover. I was born and raised in Lincoln’s hometown and many of my ancestors were all friends, neighbors, clients and even in-laws of his. It’s thrilling to hear a Brit call the Gettysburg Address the greatest speech in the English language. I was a baby and a toddler when JFK and Johnson were in the White House but I have a clear recollection of Nixon’s election and heated dinner table discussions of the war in Vietnam. I remember wondering how newscasters could claim objectivity while labeling the North Vietnamese “the enemy”. I became interested in politics with the Watergate hearings. I recall feeling betrayed by a president I had naively admired and determined not to be so misled in the future. It gave me an x-ray vision into the minds of every succeeding president, a bs detector that equipped me to correctly predict that no WMDs would be found in Iraq that hadn’t been planted there. The worst thing you can imagine about most presidents is usually nearest to the truth.
38:43 "no-one else shares that view" that Nixon was acting within his powers as president even if it meant breaking the law. The Supreme Court of the United States has not only shared that view but also extended that to say exactly how far a President can go - and it's all the way apparently. Shame Dan didn't refer to this as it seems to vindicate Nixon's argument.
Fever? Some of us Americans are scared shiteless. Thinking this is some second coming of the fourth reich. Oh there will be movies made about this someday.
The Lincoln movie was highly dramatized. I love Daniel Day-Lewis but the script was completely made up. Lincoln grew up in Kentucky where it was legal to own enslaved people. He moved to Indiana with his family and then to Illinois at the age of 21. He joined the Illinois Militia and participated in the forced removal of the Native tribes to make way for settlers. Lincoln received his farmland and that was the first time he was able to own any property. He married Mary Todd who grew up in a wealthy family who owned enslaved people in Kentucky. Lincoln was not an abolitionist. However, when he decided to run for office, he knew he would not receive support from the other Illinois politicians unless he agreed, adopted and promoted their abolitionist agenda. Lincoln remained a white supremacist and had a lifelong hatred of Native people. Three atrocities took place in three different tribes under his administration. The Sand Creek Massacre where Col. Chivington and his cavalry troops attacked a peaceful Cheyenne encampment savagely killing old men, women and children who were waving white flags. The second was after the Dakota war in Minnesota where the Indian agent and Minnesota settlers were harassing and attempting to starve the Dakota people who had made a treaty with the government to share their homelands with incoming European settlers. After the battle, the Army tried to hang 300 Dakota men. Lincoln dismissed most of te charges but signed the death warrant for 38 Dakota men and later an additional 2 men which resulted in the largest mass hanging in U.S. history. The third was when the govt wanted to move the Navajo off their homelands and appointed Kit Carson to force the tribe to move closer to Hopi (another tribe) land. The tribe was forced to walk through the desert for hundreds of miles and many died on the Long Walk.
The native didn't enslave woman and children settlers? Massacred entire settlements. Tortured and disfigured women? Natives were just as savage as any white man
my grandpa told me johnson was a crook and a bad guy that man never lied to me and he was a good judge of character. i believe johnson was in on the kennedy assassination also!
Nixon got called out by a guy who started his career as a satirical comedian, whose company gave us one of the most famous sketches in British comedy history ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VKHFZBUTA4k.html.
If you read Doris Kearn Goodwin’s a Team Of Rivals upon which the movie is based, she details the genius of Lincoln and how he knew when the time would be right to move ahead with the abolition of slavery as he needed Congress to pass the amendment. He knew if tried too early and failed, he may never succeed nor be re-elected.
After the Kennedy docuseries my outlook on Johnson changed. Jackie said she entered AF1, still bloody, and there was LBJ laying on the bed. Hands beneath his head, cowboy boots on, etc
