History Buffs: Midway Part One 

It's alright mate I'm just happy to watch a new video of your reviews and if I may say I saw Midway when it was released and I enjoyed it. But if I may ask what other reviews do you have planned in the future? Sincerely a fan from Australia.

Don't worry about it dude, the quality of your videos is always great.

It's alright.

It's all good I'm dyslexic to. We all make the odd mistake.. And it certainly doesn't get in the way of great content like yours

Worth the wait. Yay!

For Pearl I'd go for "Tora,Tora,Tora". HB already covered it I think.

@@littlefluffybushbaby7256 Oh, yes, I know. But I was meaning that,of recent movies, not classics, Midway did Pearl Harbor better, as the opening act, than Pearl Harbor, a movie that was supposed to be all about Pearl Harbor!

That love story ???

"Pearl Harbor" was a turd pile.

@@skippa7324 I’m pretty sure they had some AA guns but they only started shoving them wherever they could fit after this and other carrier battles.

"We must assume they it wasn't sunk and they were able to repair her."

And according to "Incredible Victory" some of the construction workers had to be flown off once she was out to sea, enroute to Midway.

Meanwhile at the other side of the Pacific, the IJN could have transferred the air group of the damaged Shoukaku to its sister ship Zuikaku to join the other 4 Fleet carriers.

@@paulsteaven Yes, and they should have. They could have pulled down the 2 light carriers from the Aleutians, or plugged the hole NE of Midway with a cruiser that had a float plane. If you haven't read it, "Shattered Sword" is a fantastic book.

@@ghostwriter4618 they should have before the invasion of Aleutian Island started and maybe the other light carrier(s) available to join the Kido Butai. If they'd done that, they just not increase the CAP for their task force but they also prevented the Akutan Zero from happening since that captured intact zero was from the light carrier Ryujo that was sent to cover the Operation AL. I'd read that book few times and give me valuable insights about the many problems that the both sides encountered like the infamous "Nagumo's dilemma".

@Dragon On Coke He's referring to a line from the Roger Ebert review of 'Pearl Harbor'.

Terrible Writing Advice would like to know your location.

@michael boultinghouse all credit to Roger Ebert

@michael boultinghouse lol was truly an 'artiste' ...

Well if they included a bonus scene of emperor Hirohito getting a short drop with a sudden stop. Would that make it better?

GG King

I saw the first half of the comment before loading the second half. A surprise to be sure but a welcome one. Wish this worked for me

Magic of the cinema

..Yup she's a keeper.

Absolute win

Yes

Yes

Heh, I'll yell: YAY when he does Das Boot!

Agreed

Arthur?

Take my like and fuck off

Nicely done

I literally stopped any rolled my eyes when I read this. Have a like and go to your room.

Bah dum tsh

Seriously? You went there.

Same.

Fun fact. There's a town in Texas called Port Arthur where Janis Joplin and the rap group UGK were from.

Fun fact: I knew non of those facts.

Of note, Australia has a Port Arthur as well. It's also the site of the 1996 mass shooting that led to drastic tightening of Australia's firearm ownership policies. So if you're talking to an Australian and you mention Port Arthur, this is what they will be thinking of (if they're over thirty anyway).

Fun fact, I was born in Dalian, which is essentially the modern metropolitan city of Port Arthur. I have visited where the beach head that the Ruskis built those pillboxes, and they are still there, as the Japanese left them there and used them themselves.

None of this was fun.

It led to the slaughter of 100,000 thousand Chinese civilians

@@berginusmc ...Japan had already committed atrocities greater then that before then

@@berginusmc . Yes sadly true, but that is nothing the Americans could control in war

Dawg, it’s the 1940s, the intention was not to solely bomb civilians. You’re looking at planes that are using highly inaccurate ordnance, are low on fuel and trying to get to safety, and are more or less likely tweeking out because it’s their first ever mission over there. You can argue the point later on, but that again was far after the the bombing of Tokyo. Unfortunately the only way you could insure that your target would be hit was if you sent hundreds of planes to carpet bomb an entire city. If we’re being technically the us wasn’t throwing babies into the air and ski shooting them or r*ping women left and right. You can say what you want but World War Two like many wars is not black and white, but gray. However one side was definitely far worse than the other.

@@berginusmc 250,000 from what i understand. I had a teacher in high school who survived the bataan death march.... he shared some of his stories....i'd believe the 250k.

How did they do that so long ago? It would probably take months to rebuild a ship in modern times. Are people just dumber now or lazier? Lost our work ethic perhaps.

@@silverletter4551 carriers are more complicated and much, much bigger now than they used to be. On top of that, repairing a ship as fast as possible for an emergency battle, and making sure a ship is prepped for a long, arduous service life, are two different things.

Youre describing my bosses day dreams

Both Yorktown and Enterprise later that year proved the world that Wooden flight deck could be patched up quickly if they got holed.

Well it's a misconception that the officer said it would take that long, the only damage to Yourktown really was a hol in the deck which wasn't hard to patch up

Finally it is

You have no idea how many times I've rewatch the old videos waiting for a new one

How? It worked yesterday :-P

Next time he can give us a shout to him leaving for a year beforehand lol people unsub after a week is ridiculous, but si is leaving for a year or so like a few other history ytubers have done without a word. Lol

...for now...

they were still trying to save her when a jap sub finished her....tough ship!

Pretty fitting name in that case.

The only ship that the Japanese thought they sank three times, they counted it as sunk in Coral then midway through Midway, then finally when it did go down.

Must be so nice to write your high school paper on American history. I had to do mine on Canadian history which, don’t get me wrong, has its highlights but American history is certainly filled with cooler stuff.

@@sandvichomnom2779 not a red and white flag waving nationalist here but Canada has as much of an interesting history as the US... and dare I say a more interesting one

@@u.h.forum. As neither American nor Canadian...Got any highlights?

@@potatoboyhats905 creation of Quebec, Hudsons bay expansion, expedition into the Yukon and northern passage such as the Franklin expedition, American invasion of Quebec, war of 1812, confederation, all history from then onwards. Untouched gem really

@@u.h.forum. I’m British and we have you both beat. Sorry lads

there is the plausibility that it happened in Star Trek because of that...

@@nunyabidness674 Maybe a more realistic part of that universe than I'd thought.

@@nunyabidness674 a few of the Original series cast and crew were WWII vets, so that makes sense.

And Star Trek is make believe. The dockmen had it done in TWO. LEGENDS of the seas.

by the book.

Those poor British fishermen weren't laughing, though.

Kamchatka wants to know if you've seen Torpedoboats

If there is one to be made, I hope its the same director from the death of stalin, that would be perfect.

stuff for monthy python film.

Drachinifel - Voyage of the the Damned

Or he’s good at his job

Me too

For this role, he's definitely the best choice. I was shocked how similar he looks to Nimitz

He had his 15 minutes of being an A list movie star. This is what he was always meant to be - an outstanding character actor.

Him and mattew are brothers soo

He said early days of the war. More like early years.

@@88porpoise to me, it's not even that they denied the claims of bad torpedos, it's that it took *two years* for them to admit it, and fix it.

There was an entire movie with John Wayne about the torpedo problem.

Torpedoes failed 90% of the time . And the torpedo bombs were slow,needed the fighters to protect them .The battle or Midway was poorly planned,but the dive bombers were very good !

The should have got this guy onto solving it? ‘Eugene Bennett Fluckey (October 5, 1913 - June 28, 2007), nicknamed "Lucky Fluckey",[1] was a United States Navy rear admiral who received the Medal of Honor and four Navy Crosses during his service as a submarine commander in World War II.’ He apparently rebuilt all his torpedos after having failures and they operated perfectly?

Its funny how the yorktown class ships never dissapointed, the uss yorktown example you gave, uss hornet doing the doolittle raid, and uss enterprise participating in almost all key naval battles, its nice that these ships preformed their tasks above and beyond

if you are interested in the ships from that time I recommend the enterprise. I`m personally fond of her. she received the nickname the gray gosh because multiple times she was reported sunk only to show up in the next battle.

She is currently docked in a Charleston harbor. Love her story

@@kreigguardsman3355 the Yorktown at Midway is a second ship with the same name. The original Yorktown was lost after Midway. She got torpedoed by a submarine while under tow headed back to port. The one in Charleston was originally going to be called “Bonhomme Richard.”

@@TheEvilMrJeb Could you imagine if Yorktown survived the war only to be scrapped?

Don't you mean the Battle of Coral Sea?

I think, or was it another battle like that?

My grandfather was in the pacific theater. I’m glad we were able to help our family across the pacific when we were needed. Hopefully we’re now on a track to be the help the world needs again. Sorry about the last four years, we’re trying to do better!

Too bad America did not intervene for the Aboriginal nation, it would have been a God-Send.

@@wuwei7006 Yeah, sorry about that. Of course, American help at the time wouldn't have taken a very good form. We don't have the best track record of dealing with native peoples.

Right... it's just a game after all.

They and the yard workers that stayed aboard knowing full-well they were riding along on a busted up ship headed to fight the Japanese Kido Butai. As for ShainAndrews comment; ease up a little, astrinymris9953 may be a civilian trying to pay a sincere compliment the only way he can. You say it with whatever words you have, I and the rest of the veterans who read these comments will understand what you're saying and we'll appreciate it!

My dad was a dive bomber pilot in the South Pacific, and he never told us that detail! I was so glad to see the footage in this review (starting at 15:35). I had known my dad was brave, but this was absolutely crazy!

They also left it open so if they crashed on landing, if the canopy rails were bent they could get out (from what I've read).

I was unable to find a link to info that indicated the "windshield" on the Dauntless was openable. Now, the sliding "canopy" was left open for ditching safety purposes. It also would allow for enough air circulation to prevent fogging.

That is why future of naval warfare belongs to aircraft, carriers and submarines

Open to keep from fogging ,started there dive from 19000 ft .

Simple yet effective

It actually wasn't. It was a desperate gamble which should have alerted the Japanese that the US could read their messages. To this day historians are confused as to why the Japanese fell for it rather than immediately changing their codes.

@@RandomStuff-he7lu a small isolated island outpost sending a message to the admiralty that they have mintainance / supply issues isn't out of the ordinary. Why would the Japanese get suspicious of an airbase just sending another simple mintainance log?

@@Indoor_Carrot Because it was sent unencrypted. That should have raised suspicions.

@@RandomStuff-he7lu pretty sure it wasn't the first unencrypted message. Don't forget how arrogant and desperate Japan was to damage America too

True...true.

Yeah

Word

True

I'm a complex man, with an intricate and troubled backstory, morally ambiguous nature, and deep character arc. My allegiances seem to change with the wind, for reasons lost to many, and few know me well enough to get past my nigh impregnable emotional barriers. But yeah- I see a History Buffs video, I also click it.

Yamamoto was also the one who had the _audacity_ to laugh in the presence of the Emperor when another commander suggested a land invasion of mainland America. He supposedly delivered that famous line about "behind every blade of grass, behind every tree and fencepost, behind every car and window there is an American rifle waiting for you".

He's a good admiral. Happy things didn't go his way though

If you research that quote it's actually not proven he said this. However he certainly understood the risks and the extremely problematic outcome of the strike. He actually warned against war with the United States in entirety

He never wrote it and as far as we know, he never said it. The line is from Tora Tora and likely based on a quote from Napolean. There were other people who said similar things like radio commentators in the US but no record of Yamamato ever writing or saying this has ever been produced

@@Flowersinadesertof course he did. I saw it in tora tora tora.

I think there's also a third one of those series coming out soon about the 8th Air Force

@@littlefluffybushbaby7256 yeah heard that was due this fall for release after years and years of either delays or just work since I first heard the rumor like 2 years ago.

and "generation kill" . everyone remembers Band of Brothers and The Pacific..... but the same production company did a HBO series on the Iraq/Iran war..... from 2001 till today.... . Generation Kill is...... not PG-13 (did they even cuss in BoB??) and thats probably why most havent seen it . also because it was FAR lower budget than Pacific or BoB......FAR lower!! and this war i still far to recent for a lot of people who lost family...... . . but talking to my cousin (and a few other family that were in WW2)..... and seeing EX-military people talk about Generation Kill on youtube..... . i think its more real than not....... especially the emotional / command BS / general realism with "sitting at camp" stuff (aka a combat-jack) . . . however..... the terrorists act like B move bad guys.... shooting from the hip..... having NO tactics or strategy.... probably even said "dirkka dirkka jihad" at some point...... . but ya.... some of it shows the insurgents actually doing what they would do (tactically.... in fire fights and ambushes and crap) other times its "shoot from the hip...... wearing 20 dollar costumes......with D movie acting..... . . . ya gotta remember..... GK released in 2008.... the USA (aka 100% of HBO viewers.... for a HBO mini-series)...... we just had a BIG push (this is when my cousin went on deployment) so a LOT of people had personal connections . a lot of WW2, namn, ETC movies are made 10, 20.....70 years.... after the battle its your grandfather's movie...... VS your brother or son's movie . "hits ya right in the feels" . . . TLDR..... they show the insurgents as IN-F'IN-comment idiots..... because if they showed these "goat herders" as actually trained, battle hardened, pushed back the USSR dudes..... . well.... that might scare all the Karens'..... and the studio will get sued to death . so they run straight at in-placed US troops..... spraying and praying like its CS-GO.....(a video game)

@@kainhall Generation Kill is my favorite because they talk more like what I remember in the military. I was in the Navy during that time period and it gets the fucked up conversations perfect.

@@kainhall "HBO series on the Iraq/Iran war." Iran war? I assume you mean Afghanistan as the unit depicted fought in Afghanistan prior, and the show literally just covers the initial invasion of Iraq to the fall of Baghdad.

Underrated comment.

Understandable.

Ok

Step into my office. My computer has surround sound.

lol, watching it on my lunch right now

That smirk he gives him. Admiral Nimitz could appreciate some good sarcasm.

@@ryangibson5462 And you of cause knew Adm. Nimitz in person

@@tellyonthewall8751 Obviously, I mean who hasn't. Lol

@@ryangibson5462 You for one hasn't ... guess those gaming headphone has pressed a little too hard on the string between your ears .. that string to keep your ears in place. Your head is keeping the distance between your ears .. as its primary (and only) task in life. If I was you, I would put up my head for organ donation you would even get some money before "donating" a prime organ ... argumentation would sound like: "Head for organ donation, nearly new, never used" You ever thought about that funny noise sounding, when you shake your head? Like one marble in a jar???

@@mitchellhawkes22 Meh, don't care, it's a cocol scene =D Plus, I think it was more just a joke between them, I don't think Nimitz didn't know, he was just amused by the ruse.

Reminds me of a line from "Blue Thunder"" "Did you know he checks his sanity with a stopwatch?" "What do you use? A dipstick?"

@@mitchellhawkes22 seethe

I guess they shouldn't have helped then? It was war. The US killed a lot of people too.

@@silverletter4551 I thought Ben Shapiro made people smarter, not dumber

@@anbitye2134 What do you mean? If my family was going to be killed, I would have not helped anyone. I would have minded my own business or even helped the Japanese.

@@silverletter4551 are you American?

@@silverletter4551 Nah mate, just remember this, no need to think it should not happen or feel sorry for the Dolittle Raid. There can be no victory without sacrifice, Chinese know about this just as good as Russians. Dolittle himself, just like back in US, is held as a hero by the Chinese, there is even a memorial museum in Zhejiang province where Dolittle landed.

think Cagney did a better job playing Halsey....["The Gallant Hours"]

And Jake Weber also portrayed Raymond Spruance quite well, even though his appearances were very brief- which didn't do justice to Spruance's important role in Midway.

PLEASE STOP SHOUTING!!!!!!!!!

@@bazsnell3178 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

*LOUD NOISES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*

PRAISE THE SUNNNNNN

Get real, according to the new version 2 or 3 people won several battle all by themselves.

Yeah. If you jumped off a bridge, it would make Stuka siren sounds on the way down like a bugs bunny cartoon.

@@Christopheromoan hahahaha!

Or how all dogfighting the planes never lose energy at all and can climb and turn like Fokker DR1s.

The Dauntless Dive Bomber had the dive sirens as well.

got that right

Agree!

agreed

Meh 😑 the original German version is much better

I've only watched the 2008 version so far, but I'd be interested in seeing how they both compare, jointly. Take the pepsi challenge, so to speak.

@@seokeady well hearing the Germans speak German makes it a lot more convincing for me 😉

can you detail which protocols in specific you have in mind ?

Defence protocols for ships against aircraft, combat narative for both armed and unarmed combat and how to deal with unconventional military with blitz tactics similar to what was delt with in the spanish american war, sea combat was a big one as well as air to air combat which drastically changed from ww1 to ww2, and then the biggest one was how america used sea planes like pby's to both gather intelligence and harrass shipping lanes due to there ability to land and refuel anywhere using subs islands other ships or other sea planes and the number one biggest lesson was carrier combat and the usefullness of carrier based aircraft

Loved history class when I was a kid

I did the same but was pleased when I finally viewed it on HBO Max.

Huh, weird, I remember seeing the first trailer and thinking the movie looked fucking awesome. Didn't like the second trailer as much.

Because those are actually correct actions taken by menM

Understandable I did the same with Inglorious Bastards, thinking it just another blood thirsty movie with shallow characters. And blood thirsty it was, but shallow? Most certainly not

Yea, the marketing for this movie was pretty shit.

@@mitchellhawkes22 I'd not bet against it being inserted for a little bit of dark comedy

It’s a lot more historically accurate than the old one but it still has some things that bug me. It would have been better if this were a mini series so it leads up to the midway battle. Last soundtrack. I still prefer John Williams midway.

@@yoehonjohn4832 There are always going to be things that bug us. There isn't a perfect movie, and there will always be liberties that have to be taken.

I liked it much more than Pearl Harbor, but it was somewhat inconsistent in its depiction of the timeline AND you were a bit lost in about what was happening if you did not know what was happening beforehand. Why did Midway launch its planes and why did they not engage the incoming bombers and what about Hornets planes (which didn't even participate in the battle as they went on a sightseeing tour of water way north of the Kido Butai).

Oh yeah I noticed that when I watched it in the movie. But less said about moonfall the better lol

Repair ship USS Vestal(AR-4) was moored alongside USS Arizona. She survived WW2 & was scrapped 7/1950

That grammar feels off, like it works but not really

More like: - I don't envy the new commander. - (Meaningful silence) P R O C E S S I N G . . . P R O C E S S I N G . . . - It's me, isn't it? (What makes that scene is the pause it takes for Nimitz to get it)

March 1942 Raid on Lae, May 1942 Battle of Coral Sea....not seeing it.

Busy 2 years

Fun Fact there are no Mountains on all of the 100's of Marshall Islands period but some how there are Mountains on the Raid in Marshall Islands depicted in the film

If history: How about Mark Felton? And if on the 7 seas: How about Drachinifel?

@@dallesamllhals9161 yeah Mark Felton is really good!

There is one... but it's in Russian, but really great.

@@antonvoloshin9833 Erh, I'll take your word for IT? ..Erta problema..partjemu Ja Nje dumaju erta PRAVDA? Yup! 2 years of Russian in 1996-1998 did help (F-you! Googletran..gavnor ;-D ) DA! I'm a bit 'rusty'...

Same

Now time fore oversimplified to uploaf

Same dude

I always thought he was more of a bleu than a rouge

Dude, me too.

I mean Louis Mountbatten outright predicted the attack on pearl harbor. Which isn't surprising since it was exactly what they would have done in the Japanese position (except they would have attacked at night). The WW2 British navy is heavily underrated, especially their carrier arm.

If memory serves me right, HMS Warspite stopped by Hawaii on her way to repairs and also said that Pearl Harbor would be an easy target for torpedos as it had been there for Taranto.

its right there

u can ask for refuge. be like me. a citizen

I thought Taranto had deeper water.

Years ago I spent a Saturday touring 3 WWII museums in Fredericksburg, TX with my sons Venture Crew. One of them, I believe it was then called the George Bush Museum, was laid out chronologically from Commodore Perry sailing in to Tokyo Harbor in 1853. The point of how Japan was treated by the major powers was really driven home to me. As a point of interest, our Scoutmasters father was part of the crew that actually captured a Japanese mini-Sub on December 7th, 1941.

My great grandfather fought the Japanese in Manchuria. The main reason the Russians lost was because of poor logistics along the not-yet finished trans-siberian railway. Most of the regional resources were being used for inferstructure and it was difficult to bring men and resources from Europe.

@@samvodopianov9399 I can only imagine the challenges of moving men and material across the vast nation under the conditions of that time.

They didn’t want to mess with the USSR tho

I've read that Admiral Nagumo had the "Z Flag" that was flown on the flagship "Mikasa" at the battle of Tsushima, and flew it once again as a symbol of victory after Pearl Harbor. He also ordered the "Z Flag" to be flown while his planes were taking off to bomb Midway Island.

movie does a good job conveying the desperation that was common at this time.....

Roland Emmerich did his best to portray things accurately... but he's still Roland Emmerich so it still came off as silly/ a video game trailer. I'd say he was the wrong director for the film but he practically funded it himself so he was the only choice. It's a lot better then making no movie at all, which is more then I could say for Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor.

I feel the same way. Personally, I’ve been more of a fan of the 1976 movie, though probably do to a mix of nostalgia, a preference for its heavier focus on Midway rather than mixing together a lot of Pearl Harbor, Doolittle, Coral Sea and Midway, and the uniqueness of a movie using actual footage of the battle. I think the modern version could’ve been better without some of the more silly parts, but it’s still a good historical portrayal.

I also thought the script was a bit sophomoric and there was a good deal of overacting and overdramatization. But it was comprehensive and covered lesser-known parts of the battle and the events of the first 6 months of the war.

I actually loved the movie. Mainly, for re-creation of the "Big E" and planes. And finally, Waldron's sqadron flew Devastators, not Dauntlesses as in the 1976 movie. But there was one thing I missed - Thatch's boys and their Wildcats.

That maybe true, but Roland Emmerich did manage to portray the timeline of the events leading up to Midway better than most movie.

So, does that mean one last brief blaze of glory before being banished to a barren rock in the middle of the ocean?

Until one day near the small town of Waterloo

Don't you mean like Douglas MacArthur?

@@weldonwin Yep, down to St. Helena.

With hope, his glory will too be eternal

What he's referring to isn't the concept of a harbor attack itself, but the idea that Pearl Harbor was incredibly shallow, which led both the US and the Japanese to believe that aerial torpedoes couldn't function in such shallow waters. It wasn't until the Japanese modified their torpedoes that it became possible for aerial torpedoes to function in said shallow waters.

@@Dragunov8808 My point being that something similar and just as "impossible" had been done previously, which should have been a red fucking flag to anyone regarding Pearl Harbor, but no.

Using about 20 or so planes to raid a harbour like Taranto is not thought to be impossible. The idea of 6 carriers with hundreds of planes coordinating together to form a single cohesive fighting force to strike a harbour is thought to be impossible.

Maledetta Albione! *angry Duce noises

the Japanese would have done better to sail away from Midway and the American carriers while recovering theitr planes than straight at them....remember their planes could outrange ours....then turnabout and launch a full strike from a distance....that would probably have allowed them to win the battle

A fellow man of culture, I see

The grey ghost is the MVP

Irl plot armor.

Too bad she met the breakers at the end of the war. Most Battle Stars of any American Warship of WW2. The light cruiser San Diego came close, but she was no Enterprise.

@@chem9773 Lucky E bullshit intensifies. Seriously, if anyone reading this puts Enterprise on your PvP defence fleet go fornicate yourself.

@Marty Genesis please tell me where the brainwashing is. Please, by all means, explain where remembrance of a historic day is brainwashing, go ahead.

@Marty Genesis you are truly confused

@Marty Genesis *Japan fought for survival* *Raped nanking*

@Marty Genesis Firstly, I'm not American. Secondly, just because America committed atrocities, doesn't mean that Japan can do it as well.

@Marty Genesis no he just had pride in his nation and his service. He fought both the Germans on d Day and occupied Japan after his unit was ordered to help take the Philippines. He saw true horrors in the war and didn't talk about it once, was shot twice and was pretty anti war on most wars after nam. He loved people and was famous for saying if anyone ask him his feeling about the German or japanese soldiers he fought "ah horse sh*t, they where soldiers under orders lol us." Or " war is started my old men who can't get along, but finished by young men who can fight and have everything to loose." He went through a lot of theropy to be right with everything that happened. And years with AA to be right with himself.

Woody is a dang good actor. I had no issues believing him to play Gen Nimitz even with hairpiece.

Exactly my thoughts! Woody looked like the real person, but is so horrifically miscast and unbelievable. I expect him to crack a smile and deliver some sarcastic joke . LOL

worked with Woody on "Kingpin"...funny dude!....quite a stretch from "Munson" to Nimitz....but he did ok....

was hoping to find this comment!

You absolutely get a like for the use of ‘dog’s age.’

A dog age indeed...

Every dog has his day

The best quote from that video has to be at the beginning “who invented the Mk 14? What was the Mk 14? *Why* was the Mk 14”

Since Nick mentioned Tsushima, the voyage that the 2nd pacific squadron took from the Baltic to East Asia is also worth mentioning I think. 'The Russian 2nd Pacific Squadron - Voyage of the Damned', with the latter part of this title being a great summary.

That entire channel is a brilliant naval military channel in general. So much good content.

@@silaskuemmerle2505 but no one is asking, How is the Mk 14?

coming right after Patrick (H) Willems teasing the finale to the Charl saga

What finally got me on the Nebula bandwagon was Polymatter’s video on China’s collapsing demographics; the fact that I could be missing out on something by watching only the shorter RU-vid version was too much.

It is but like the game stop clerks learned all those years ago I can out wait $60 games till they hit the bargain bin. See y’all next week!✌🏻

Drachinifel did a video on the Mark 14.

Downfall?

...Der Untergang is underrated? I thought it was considered as THE Hitler movie....

GANZ was magnificent! I hate to say Ive seen many funny meme's and shorts about "Someone" calls Hitler...i.e. Beavis and Butthead call Hitler

@@cleverusername9369 yes Downfall the German name is der untergang

I love downfall one of my fav movies Bruno ganz should have gotten an Oscar for his performance

@@mitchellhawkes22 You are correct, he was never sent to Europe and performed his wartime service as a flight instructor in the US. My Great-grandfather was sent overseas just as the war was drawing to a close, thankfully never having had to fight. Despite both never having actually engaged in conflict, they both performed a duty to the nation.

@@mitchellhawkes22 Also, i'm well aware of what WW1 is. Its how both my great-grandfather and my grandfather referred it as because I didn't know what either of them were talking about at the time of them telling me the story.

Thing is, shes portraying someone from her memory in the relaxed time on shoreleave, not in war time in a middle of a battle

@@mitchellhawkes22 They never could get his casting right. He was a short bald man. "So lets have Alec Baldwin and the Fucking Punisher play him."

@@brucechmiel7964 , I wonder if the closest onscreen portrayal of Doolittle isn't Spencer Tracy in "Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo." That picture was made in 1942/43. right after the raid and many of the people involved in its making would have been alive when Doolittle first became known to the public during the First World War. The real Doolittle would have been as familiar to them as a celebrity and personality as, say, Colin Powell is to us today.

@@TricksterDa Just like in 43’ everyone knew who John Basilone was.

@@TricksterDa Like Eisenhower, Doolittle spent World War I training others in the States. He didn't really become any kind of celebrity until the Thirties, through air racing and a number of aviation firsts (first outside loop; first flight entirely on instruments, etc.). After reading his his autobiography, I say that Jimmy Cagney would have been a lot closer in portraying Doolittle as he really was--although I'm guessing Doolittle could have matched the real Spencer Tracy drink for drink. BTW, the background picture I have on my laptop is Doolittle's plane taking off from the USS Hornet on April 18, 1942.

Wrong channel bub

To bad so many 'superiors' and bureaucrats in Washington didn't want to share credit and punished Joe Rochefort. He had a plaque in his office that said, "We can accomplish anything so long as no one cares who gets the credit."

I've always said that the US won WW2 through intel, logistics and war production. We knew where to go, we had the means to get there and we had the means to have the proper gear for it.

The intel put the people in the right place. But without the skill of those actually doing the fighting it wouldn't have mattered. Example what if the American pilots just missed the Japanese carriers and didn't sink 4 maybe just sunk one or none? Intelligence is very important no argument there but it cant win a battle alone.

I won't deny that intel helped win, but there were a lot of complex factors that went into the outcome, including Nagumo's Dilemma.

@@terryrussel3369 and Turing in UK was put into prison regardless of his team accomplishements, just for being gay?;/ past was the worst.

I don't see it in nebula. Did you find it?

@@altres16 cant find it either :(

Did you find it on Nebula? I couldn't

I can't find it on nebula?

PANIKK I CANT FIND IT

I'm sorry for your loss. I'm glad you guys got to see a good movie for the last one. One that sparked some interesting after-movie conversation to be sure. Take care my friend.

RIP Your father :-(

I think there are a few reasons: 1) Nazi crimes in Europe mattered to the great powers of Europe more then the far away Japanese crimes in far away China. 2) Nazi crimes had a propaganda use during the Cold War with Germany divided between the West and East, while in Japan pressing the issue of their crimes would only give the Communist Chinese ammo for their propaganda.(which in turn is a continuing part of modern Japanese refusal to except guilt over these past acts, not wanting to give the CCP a free stick to browbeat them with) I'm sure there's more reasons as well, but these seem the biggest.

I mean, surely the U.S. nuking two Japanese cities kinda balanced stuff out in that department?

@@cinemaspire7258 Does it though? Whether or not you make the argument that the U.S. wanted a reason to test their bombs the country was desperate to end the war with Japan. The nuke argument is a red herring anyways because that doesnt excuse the genocidal tendencies of the IJA on countries like China.

Not really. The Japanese murdered and beheaded and tortured to death many more Chinese people than were killed in both cities. Germany killed 16 million tho. It was 3 million to 10 million and people from many area nations and western pows. And it wasn't so coldly premeditated and organized. The Germans were more like serial killers.

Be interesting if he does Hacksaw Ridge and comment how much the movie downplays events.

It's a great movie. You won't be disappointed.

some people give it shit because it's mainly CGI but honestly it doesn't even look that bad and represents the history very well in my opinion

@@taloob493 agreed

The character work isn't the best, but from what I can tell, they stick to the history fairly well, and they do an excellent job of portraying the battles themselves. Yeah there's a lot of CGI, but it's well done and the direction is generally good during the combat.

I think I've seen the movie about four times now.

120 km/h or something like that. Maybe more for a bomber. That’s a car on the highway

it's possible yeah, I mean afaik if a plane comes to the sea, the army won't even inform the navy, saying it's the navy problem, while the navy said it's army problem since the bomber target is a land target, they won't even repair each other plane who land on their base, and even goes as far with the saying "IJA Have their own navy and IJN Have their own army."

I have never seen a more dysfunctional nor more toxic relationship than that of the relationship between the IJN and the IJA.

If anything cryptologists have one blind spot, that if they rolled a code someone else could crank it. Even the Germans were so confident with enigma it never really cross their mind that there was weakness in the system. Then you've got the allies with the merchant code for civilian ships, they knew that code or should have known that code had been compromised, I say compromise rather than cracked because it's possible that they got hold of the documents from sinking allied merchantment, by reading enigma they should have known. The Japanese at the same time just before Midway change their Naval codes and it was just through a stroke of luck and genius that Rochfert was was able to partially crack it before Midway.

Now that you mention it, I would love to learn more about Japanese politics during the Second World War!

For a culture that seems to emphasises so much on cohesion and social harmony, this kind of factionalism is a baffling contradiction.

While Russia's decline was a factor, don't undersell Japan here, their rapid modernization in the late 19th/early 20th century is a formidable feat, going from a backwards isolationist nation to a major imperial power in about a generation, I don't blame the Japanese being so prideful in this era.

You alone made that connection? For whole years you say. The 1904-1905 Russo-Japanese War and it’s impact on Japanese Navy Doctrine has been understood by military historians for decades. I’m pretty sure I read that connection in both Stokesbury’s and Keegan’s short histories of the war both written before 2000.

@@RipOffProductionsLLC To be honest though Russia was pretty bad in the early 1900's

they virtually wiped out British, French and Dutch empires from all of South East Asia

@@tusharkumar4444 because French and Dutch was occupied and British was fighting a three front war

Excellent book

Thank you just added it to my audio book library

To be accurate, it is written from Japanese source material. It also corrects (the books claim not mine, I will actually be downloading both books soon) many errors in Mitsuo Fuchida's Midway: The Battle That Doomed Japan which would be from a Japanese view (he was the Air Group commander aboard the Akagi during pearl harbor and was aboard her when she was attacked at midway).

We only sank three ships… They dropped the sun on us…twice.

@@alexsandrsenaviev4529 Hey, they venerate the sun didn't they 😏...

@@EyFmS indeed

@@alexsandrsenaviev4529 skill issue

@@subarashisaiyan6333 more like we invested more in military tree than the Economy tree

I'm up for it!

Drach better do better. History Buff's video has some errors which I do not expect Drach to repear.

War is inevitable. Liberty is not.

Well said

@Andrew Vidito yes

@Andrew Vidito Fredericksburg, the General said it on Telegraph Hill. A beautiful area, it's a growing town these days

@Andrew Vidito haha Currahee is a Mount in my home town, my name is Nehemiah Austin

Saving Private Ryan, The Thin Red Line, Dunkirk, Hurt Locker, Inglorious Basterds, Three Kings, Platoon, Jarhead, Full Metal Jacket, Deer Hunter, Apocalypse Now, Glory, Hacksaw Ridge, Fury, 1917, Flags of Our Fathers, Letters From Iwo Jima, War Horse, etc etc. I could go on and on - I ain't even mentioning the awful shit they put out, like Pearl Harbour, or even the really incredible miniseries like Band of Brothers, The Pacific, and Generation Kill. What you talking about bro? Hollywood makes war stuff, it's a staple genre and well-served by quality shit.

onylra the ambivalent Nice. And how about all the Churchill films, and “Then There Were Giants.” And three Stalingrad classics. And Gettysburg and Andersonville.

So were you disappointed that this movie barely mentioned how the Yorktown was repaired and put to sea? Midway was so much trivia and very short on interesting facts.

Hollywood was only too happy to make Iraq and Afghanistan war movies telling us all how evil and corrupt the west is. They're not necessarily always wrong and this would have been fine if they weren't being made and shown whilst our troops were out there taking bullets and seeing their friends getting blown up in wars our government's had sent them to. Even if you don't agree with war don't go making propaganda films for the other side.

@@nahladel So in other words don't actually represent the reality of wars that's like telling a reporter in nam not to report on ambushes or the tet offensive wars aren't always just we literally kicked in Iraqs teeth just about a decade before we invaded it the fuck did it do to get invaded again oh wait nothing there were no wmds iraq had them when we sold them to some to fight Iran in the deadliest war since WWII