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HISTORY HATES LOVERS (Lyrics) 

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Cause historians will call them best friends!! I'm really glad everyone is enjoying the song so far!!
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Lyrics:
Who’s gonna tell us the stories
That our textbooks don’t?
Tales of love that stay blurry
‘Cause our courses won’t
Ignore the way they’re designed
To erase the past
To keep good intentions secret
To force a mask
Too many handwritten letters
Signed to “my dearest, with love”
All pulled from their papers
Ripped out as cover-up
To disguise endearment as friendly notes
It doesn’t take a scholar
To know how this one goes
And historians will call them
Close friends besties, roommates, colleagues
Anything but lovers
History hates lovers
Sidekicks, family, good pals, buddies
Anything but lovers
History hates lovers
40 years living together
Wearing the same wedding bands
Two kids and a golden retriever
“Just friends” don’t live like that
They don’t look at each other
with love in their eyes
With hopes to settle down
For the rest of their lives
How many decades of hiding?
Twenty-one centuries of hate
Some things may not have been okay back then
But it’s sure alright today
Too afraid to call it what it is
Doesn’t take a scholar
To understand this
And historians will call them
Close friends besties, roommates, colleagues
Anything but lovers
History hates lovers
Sidekicks, family, good pals, buddies
Anything but lovers
History hates lovers
Keep it hidden
Rewrite history
Leave it wrapped up
In a mystery
Because no one can figure it out
(I think they’ve figured it out)
Stash the proof
Hide the evidence
Keep it locked up
‘Til it’s relevant
Because they can’t figure it out
(They figured it out.They figured it out.)
Because no one can figure it out
I think they figured it out.
And historians will call them
Close friends besties, roommates, colleagues
Anything but lovers
History hates lovers
Sidekicks, family, good pals, buddies
Anything but lovers
History hates lovers

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Комментарии : 2,8 тыс.   
@Joplas99
@Joplas99 Год назад
We must live in pride the love others lived in fear.
@justyourlocalcommeterd1986
@justyourlocalcommeterd1986 Год назад
ayyy 69 likes
@fishs.failureson5114
@fishs.failureson5114 Год назад
Heck yeah
@yeaheahy1826
@yeaheahy1826 Год назад
Slay
@fishs.failureson5114
@fishs.failureson5114 Год назад
@@JennySadnick Perhaps even fuck yeah
@PlaceboStan
@PlaceboStan Год назад
@@yeaheahy1826 WTF IS UR PFP💀
@Rex-om4dt
@Rex-om4dt 2 года назад
*cough* Achilles and Patroclus. Bruh when Patroclus died Achilles screamed so loud they could hear it in Hades…… ah yes. Besties.
@Feu_Ghost
@Feu_Ghost 2 года назад
I’m pretty sure we would hear Hades too if something happens to Persephone
@sleepyeclipse5832
@sleepyeclipse5832 2 года назад
@@Feu_Ghost I think this proves the point exactly 😅
@Feu_Ghost
@Feu_Ghost 2 года назад
@@sleepyeclipse5832 That was the objective, Thanks
@jennapineapple5867
@jennapineapple5867 2 года назад
Omg i think my comment got deleted or something so I wanted to apologize dhshhs I got so upset because I didn't know he died yet so i started freaking out hdgsh
@isabellasuell3305
@isabellasuell3305 2 года назад
It's the way I want someone to love me like they loved. 😔
@shadowstudios5495
@shadowstudios5495 2 года назад
One dislike was a historian.
@pattoncake
@pattoncake 2 года назад
On alt accounts (Edit on 12/7/21) YO I GOT 83 LIKES DAD I’M FAMOUS 😍
@fluffy80hd31
@fluffy80hd31 2 года назад
Yep the historian sure does have alot of alt accounts lol
@V.ms_tape
@V.ms_tape 2 года назад
More like fucking 18 LOL 😂
@em4650
@em4650 2 года назад
Historians*
@runbinary
@runbinary 2 года назад
@@V.ms_tape 24 HAHAHA
@eimearkeaveney1192
@eimearkeaveney1192 2 года назад
obviously gay spouses: we look like a couple here! historians: *a couple of besties!*
@AshaSara
@AshaSara 2 года назад
LMAO
@Lord_Medieval_Pizza
@Lord_Medieval_Pizza 6 месяцев назад
Why is this so true???
@HunterNeyorApollo
@HunterNeyorApollo 2 месяца назад
I have a issue like this with my girl freinds as in tirls who are my freidns they have been asunder to be my gf
@ghostly_elly
@ghostly_elly 2 года назад
"lets be historic close friends" is a new way to say that i love a person
@catonkybord7950
@catonkybord7950 2 года назад
Please, let's make this a thing 😄 "Wanna be my best friend" ☺️ "In the historical way?" 😏
@reyniedaze2413
@reyniedaze2413 2 года назад
This is how I will ask someone out!
@marinadiaz1762
@marinadiaz1762 2 года назад
PLEASE
@bobatea1950
@bobatea1950 2 года назад
same
@pollikosolli1376
@pollikosolli1376 2 года назад
i'm aroace that only felt attracted to the opposite gender (so far), but if someone would ask me out like this, i would at least consider XD
@hanellee_3854
@hanellee_3854 2 года назад
Achilles: "When I am dead, I charge you to mingle our ashes and bury us together.” Historians: Ah yes, they must be bffs Hollywood: cOUsINs
@paniccastiel6690
@paniccastiel6690 2 года назад
Ahh what two good pals!! Nothing says best friends like killing one of the strongest Torjan soldiers aka Prince Hector knowing well that it we cause your death but you do it anyway out of vengeance for your very close pal that you shared a bed and a tent with for most of your life .. ahh that's what brotherhood is all about
@jamie_gil1790
@jamie_gil1790 2 года назад
@@paniccastiel6690 because they were besties 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
@paniccastiel6690
@paniccastiel6690 2 года назад
@@jamie_gil1790 Two dudes sitting in a hot tub 5 feet away cause they're not gay! Except they weren't 5 feet away and they were so very gay.
@abigailfreirebustos3954
@abigailfreirebustos3954 2 года назад
@@paniccastiel6690 are they really you're bestie if the don't go against all odd to avenge your death??
@reivioli2604
@reivioli2604 2 года назад
@@paniccastiel6690 nah they were just very close bros!! 😍😍😍😍😍😍
@mapotofu1841
@mapotofu1841 2 года назад
about Chopin: "In one letter to a male school friend, he wrote: “You don’t like being kissed. Please allow me to do so today. You have to pay for the dirty dream I had about you last night.” There are 22 letters on record from Chopin to the same friend, Tytus Woyciechowski, and he often began them with “my dearest life”, and signed off: “Give me a kiss, dearest lover.” But the English-Canadian biographer Alan Walker insisted in his 2018 book Fryderyk Chopin: A Life and Times that the homoerotic love letters penned by Chopin were the result of “psychological confusion”, and added that Woyciechowski was a “bosom friend”. Chopin bisexual icon
@NeidenHalffur
@NeidenHalffur 2 года назад
History hates lovers...
@cichyczek
@cichyczek 2 года назад
Really? Where can i read more about it??? 💖
@halfnheart7731
@halfnheart7731 2 года назад
Dear Lord JUST LET IT BE A ROMANCE BRO
@zuzannaczech
@zuzannaczech 2 года назад
Yea, we were talking about non-hetero stuff once when studing (writting studies, one hour of lecture was for non-hetoro literature) and we are from Poland - country from a very polish-sounding-named Chopin was too, and like... Chopin was told to be one of people to have "same-sex romantic friendship" (romantic because of era "romantism", but like... do they hear themselfs?). Like seriously how is that even a term? How did they came up with this term? "And they had same-sex romantic friendship. Utterly platonic of course"
@MorganEdgy
@MorganEdgy 2 года назад
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@maremantis444
@maremantis444 2 года назад
"Some men would kiss other men because they thought women were useless" - My history teacher (male) talking about ancient cultures
@ferni0307
@ferni0307 2 года назад
the DENIAL
@ViridianAubergine
@ViridianAubergine 2 года назад
Ah yes, they weren't gay, just very misogynistic!
@emiliereal1520
@emiliereal1520 2 года назад
THE DENIAL- 💀
@Dustrin
@Dustrin 2 года назад
THIS CONFIRMS THAT MISOGYNISTIC MEN ARE JUST GAYS IN DENIAL
@highlandcheesestick8402
@highlandcheesestick8402 2 года назад
@@Dustrin i mean.... why you treating a man better than a woman? sus
@tamarrivner1005
@tamarrivner1005 2 года назад
David to Jonathan: “your love is better than a woman’s love to me” historians: best friends
@raspberrycrowns9494
@raspberrycrowns9494 2 года назад
they literally kiss and have each other's souls bonded for eternity, wish I could find myself good friends like that 😔🙏
@dinganiphiri9711
@dinganiphiri9711 2 года назад
I had to read that story for my Religious ed class and I remember internally screaming every few verses, but no best friends
@tamarrivner1005
@tamarrivner1005 2 года назад
@@dinganiphiri9711 I’m Jewish and I have Torah class-ISTG there’s no way these two aren’t madly in love
@tamarrivner1005
@tamarrivner1005 2 года назад
@@raspberrycrowns9494 lmao fr
@historynerd7846
@historynerd7846 2 года назад
Ruth to Naomi: literal wedding vows. Catholics and historians: best friends
@bumblebeeproductions1673
@bumblebeeproductions1673 2 года назад
Achilles and Patroclus jamming to this in the afterlife like “just friends”
@matchamelon330
@matchamelon330 2 года назад
omg mood
@halfnheart7731
@halfnheart7731 2 года назад
No, Not Giving Me Miraculous Ladybug Vibes Nu-Uh I Haven’t Watched That Show In Years And That’s What Stuck With Me? REALLY?
@augustsockstrawberry
@augustsockstrawberry 2 года назад
I love your pfp!!
@bumblebeeproductions1673
@bumblebeeproductions1673 2 года назад
@@augustsockstrawberry and I love yours!
@augustsockstrawberry
@augustsockstrawberry 2 года назад
@@bumblebeeproductions1673 thanks
@albborumm9437
@albborumm9437 2 года назад
i still remember when we were doing the illiad in my high school latin class and my teacher was like "achilles and patroclus were probably in love but historians don't really like that so you'll have to say they were comrades in the exam"
@princessericaairacompuesto5566
@princessericaairacompuesto5566 2 года назад
LUCKYYYY I WANT TO HAVE THAT KIND OF TEACHER!!!
@bigmcg7484
@bigmcg7484 2 года назад
sounds like best teacher ever
@pastelpinksparrow9436
@pastelpinksparrow9436 2 года назад
It has actually been confirmed by historians that they were lovers
@iiiinkman
@iiiinkman 2 года назад
your teacher must’ve been veri epic 😌
@owl2944
@owl2944 2 года назад
what if we were comrades in the trojan war? haha jk... unless?
@ChippyMcDippy
@ChippyMcDippy 2 года назад
I remember we were reading a story in history class and we were reading about two woman who were “best friends”, my history teacher literally said “And we all know they were more of lovers but historians suck so that’s not going to happen” and honestly that was amazing
@tonykhang1984
@tonykhang1984 2 года назад
nice
@lilymortensen3344
@lilymortensen3344 2 года назад
as first ones HISTORIAN" -Adora shera princess of power
@butasimpleidiotwizard
@butasimpleidiotwizard 2 года назад
Ur history teacher sucks and knows nothing about modern academia
@Mesothuulas
@Mesothuulas Год назад
Your teacher is an icon
@he1pppp
@he1pppp Год назад
And everyone like that
@TimeturnerJ
@TimeturnerJ 2 года назад
Lesbian archaeologist-to-be here, and I'm proud to say that the new generation of historians does, in fact, love lovers! 🥰
@nicovelardita8619
@nicovelardita8619 2 года назад
This kinda gives me hope, thanks
@scrollingdownaswespeak
@scrollingdownaswespeak 2 года назад
Happy to know that new historians doesn't hate lovers. Spread the love! 💖🌹
@go-cm4rz
@go-cm4rz 2 года назад
Some historians are scared to "call them lovers" because of hate though. They are not all homophobic, just scared of death threats.
@TimeturnerJ
@TimeturnerJ 2 года назад
@@go-cm4rz I think it's more to do with making academic statements. See, even if every sign points to two historic people being lovers, unless they actually called each other that, we can't say it with 100% certainty - so even if subjectively you think "duh, they were gay", it's not something you can present as an objective fact if you don't have any hard evidence for it. You could potentially suggest it as a _possibility_ at least, but even then, you'd have to word it carefully. Academic circles are very strict about subjective statements, and that's probably why a lot of people use more general, objective terms. Can you prove with 100% certainty that they were lovers? No, likely not. But can you prove that they lived together? Yes. Sigh, roommates it is... This isn't just the case for same sex couples, mind. In archaeology, we can always _speculate_ about the cultural aspects of a place or item, but presenting anything as a hard fact when you can't prove it is a slippery slope. Academics are very strict like that. :'D
@Hello-xg3ke
@Hello-xg3ke 2 года назад
@@huntersden5119 Nobody cares about your opinion.
@angel2andbee2_art29
@angel2andbee2_art29 2 года назад
Whenever I hear this song I remember the Greek gods, history ppl and literally every uncannon ship in all fandoms
@diyachambers9270
@diyachambers9270 2 года назад
EXACTLY
@olja8523
@olja8523 2 года назад
same tbh
@adenavardabriana83
@adenavardabriana83 2 года назад
Artemis and callisto ( i mean they're cannon but some people said that they're just "friends" and artemis is aroace)
@loveranpo
@loveranpo 2 года назад
ME TOO
@gergelykovacs4008
@gergelykovacs4008 2 года назад
@@adenavardabriana83 she killed her wth
@katrinka9781
@katrinka9781 2 года назад
As a Bi-woman who has a passion for queer history, this song slams me in the chest. I want to blast this to the world. I love how cheerful the song sounds but at the same time, damn does it just hit me like a semi-truck.
@bumblebeeproductions1673
@bumblebeeproductions1673 2 года назад
Wait, I’m bi and into queerhistory Have I found my platonic soulmates?
@verygender8996
@verygender8996 2 года назад
@@bumblebeeproductions1673 Two others in the same comment?
@amberlexicon
@amberlexicon 2 года назад
Yeah this gets me emotional too
@oodlespaos
@oodlespaos 2 года назад
I feel thissssss I am to a Bi who is into queer history :)
@foxja1
@foxja1 2 года назад
I also have that oddly specific passion twins
@Rad_Nicole
@Rad_Nicole 2 года назад
“If Tzar Alexander was a women, I’d make him my mistress” -Napoleon Bonaparte.
@dragonettwins3228
@dragonettwins3228 2 года назад
THIS 👆
@DinaTeur
@DinaTeur 2 года назад
what? when did he say this, napoleon bi icon?
@gamercarmen3957
@gamercarmen3957 2 года назад
@@DinaTeur There is even a book about Napoleon being bi!
@DinaTeur
@DinaTeur 2 года назад
@@gamercarmen3957 really ??? omg the french conservatives are gonna be pissed if they learn that lmao
@Lrd_Storm
@Lrd_Storm 2 года назад
He told this to his wife 😂😂
@alexvarveri1176
@alexvarveri1176 2 года назад
As a Greek person, this is one of the best songs to describe greek historians. Thank you for this masterpiece 🥰🥰
@kat-vw9yq
@kat-vw9yq 2 года назад
AHHH SAME:) and history/mythology teachers 1) won’t even mention the “rumors” or 2) will make a bad snarky comment :/
@alexvarveri1176
@alexvarveri1176 2 года назад
@@kat-vw9yq Ikr! Me and my friend want to ask our history teacher about the Achilles/ Patroclus situation but we are kinda scared🤣
@kat-vw9yq
@kat-vw9yq 2 года назад
@@alexvarveri1176 well i did ask my Οδύσσεια teacher last yr abt it privately and he got a bit nervous but ultimately he told me it was possible, but isn’t sure djdndckcj
@alexvarveri1176
@alexvarveri1176 2 года назад
@@kat-vw9yq Η καθηγήτριά μου πέρυσι είχε κρας στον Οδυσσέα- Ο θρησκευτικόας ήταν full supportive και μας είχε πει ότι τα είχαν😌
@ntianakrikou5577
@ntianakrikou5577 2 года назад
Trueee Only one teacher ever mentioned a same gender relationship and that was my Odyssey teacher :]
@ziqqyziqqy
@ziqqyziqqy 2 года назад
“who’s gonna tell us the stories that our textbooks don’t?” me: /keeps including in queer history and queer and trans subtext in classic literature at every chance i get at A CHRISTIAN SCHOOL
@renak3366
@renak3366 2 года назад
queen
@justintime3656
@justintime3656 2 года назад
Thank you
@evagrace5292
@evagrace5292 2 года назад
same though lol
@littlelillies3656
@littlelillies3656 2 года назад
I’m at a Christian school rn..I could use someone like you..so much hate
@thatcottagecorewitch5910
@thatcottagecorewitch5910 2 года назад
Good! 🥰
@aruxani
@aruxani 2 года назад
"Too many hand written letters signed to my dearest with love." "To my dear Historia.... As I write this, Reiner is standing at my side. He knows that this is a love letter and yet he's still sneaking peeks. It's no wonder that creep's still single. That said, he did give me his word that he'd deliver this letter to you. He says he owes me for the time I doubled back to save him. I'm sorry about then... I never would have imagined choosing those two... Over you.... I'm going to die soon... But... I'll die without regrets. Or that's what I'd like to say. The truth is, I do have one. *It's that I never got to marry you....* With love... Ymir. "
@MichiXou
@MichiXou 2 года назад
PLEASE STOP IM BAWLING MY EYES NOW
@midoriyasallmightonesie5190
@midoriyasallmightonesie5190 2 года назад
YES I CRIED AT THAT SCENE
@cerealbugz
@cerealbugz 2 года назад
LITERALLY
@ratking7219
@ratking7219 2 года назад
PERFECT EXAMPLE AHHH I'M CRYING
@madesh9336
@madesh9336 2 года назад
STOPSTOPSTOP NO I THOUGHT I'VE ALREADY MOVED ON FROM THIS...
@Azi483
@Azi483 2 года назад
Fun fact because why the heck not: Emily Dickenson, a well-known poet from the Victorian Era, was secretly in love with a woman. Don't believe me? Look it up, it's such an interesting story!
@aeolian8899
@aeolian8899 2 года назад
wow yes! I love this story!
@dandeliondaffodyls1426
@dandeliondaffodyls1426 2 года назад
Her and Adrienne Rich are on the official English curriculum I have to study for my exams this year :)
@anastasiae3796
@anastasiae3796 2 года назад
Another fun fact: she's my distant relative and I never knew that. Ig history really does hate lovers :/
@lilymortensen3344
@lilymortensen3344 2 года назад
She was in love with Sue Gilbert. Sue loved her back they were my gay awakening. They made me feel like i belong Sue even married Emily's brother Austin so she would never be apart from Emily. If you like the too you should wach "dikinson" Hailie stinefeld is Emily and Ella Hunt is Sue. Awsome chemistry
@RavenSutcliffe
@RavenSutcliffe Год назад
Mary Shelley (got reminded bc it's whereabouts of the same time) was bi and so was her husband Percy Bysse Shelley and literally one of the reasons she wrote Frankenstein was because she got bored out of her skull when they ended up isolated in a beach house during a storm with a "family friend" and the friend's "friend", and her husband was too busy sleeping with said friend because he "didn't often get him to himself away from prying eyes" so she went "ok have fun I'll just be over here changing the history of literature for funsies" 😂😂😂😂😂 Btw the "friend" was Lord Byron lmaooo
@bluehornets5694
@bluehornets5694 2 года назад
This song, this just reminds me of two very different things. One. Historically, Alexander Hamilton and John Laurence. Alex LITERALLY said he didn't want to be married to a woman and wanted John. Like. wHAT? And then. Fuckin Gravity Falls. Thank god Alex Hirsch has made it very clear about Durland and Blubs. Because DAMN DISNEY. Disney is just like "They're just close" BRO THEY SAID THEY WERE IN LOVE
@_parpadoscaidos5681
@_parpadoscaidos5681 2 года назад
"Cold in my professions, warm in my friendships" wasn't enough for fucking historians WTF, what a shame 😪
@justahuman6614
@justahuman6614 2 года назад
LAMSSSSSS
@june.2069
@june.2069 2 года назад
Achilles and Patroclus have "the song of achilles" meanwhile, Alexander and John have "Duty and Inclination." Both books are good.
@sageinlove
@sageinlove 2 года назад
*laurens
@nimonarocksbby
@nimonarocksbby 2 года назад
Omg someone who finally mentions Gravity Falls! Yes, best cops
@leanogiyose8305
@leanogiyose8305 2 года назад
This song makes me think of every uncannon LGBTQ+ ship that has a lot of chemistry in the cannon book/movie/tvshow.
@nicc4102
@nicc4102 2 года назад
supercorp
@Kade_Colorfull
@Kade_Colorfull 2 года назад
Soukoku
@bumblebeeproductions1673
@bumblebeeproductions1673 2 года назад
Ugh Hollywood sucks I know /hj
@saynomore6958
@saynomore6958 2 года назад
Girl meets world
@justsomeyoutuber7919
@justsomeyoutuber7919 2 года назад
Wolfstar
@carlstewart7844
@carlstewart7844 2 года назад
As a aspiring historian who's in school right now this song is my anthem. LGBT+ history is something I'd love to research and publish about because of the historians brought up in the song. We've evolved past the point where my peers need to keep things in the dark for any reason, and I'll be damned if I follow the path that these past historians traveled. There are so many historical perspectives and relationships that we know about that fit their agenda, but there are way too many that are just too obviously gay to be ignored. It's frustrating, but thankfully I'm not alone in trying to right the wrongs of ignorant historians. Fantastic work with the song!
@friedlemon5172
@friedlemon5172 2 года назад
That's so cool! I'm rooting for ya! ^^
@sweetprince6474
@sweetprince6474 2 года назад
We rooting for u we're all rooting for u
@carlstewart7844
@carlstewart7844 2 года назад
@@friedlemon5172 Thank you!
@carlstewart7844
@carlstewart7844 2 года назад
@@sweetprince6474 Thank you!
@deathbydrano
@deathbydrano 2 года назад
I hope you achieve your dreams and research into this 💖
@dogarf3516
@dogarf3516 2 года назад
I guess you could say... *history has its eyes on you*
@adrianaalves6655
@adrianaalves6655 2 года назад
AH-HA, A FELLOW HAMILFAN
@arsoncos__8331
@arsoncos__8331 2 года назад
@@adrianaalves6655 yes
@H1k1k0mori_Gh0st
@H1k1k0mori_Gh0st 2 года назад
A FELLOW HAMILTON FAN HELLO
@catsolotal9904
@catsolotal9904 2 года назад
This comment satisfied me
@lilymortensen3344
@lilymortensen3344 2 года назад
In history one could say "I will never be satisfied"
@natuskaa.
@natuskaa. 2 года назад
my lord. I'm in love with this song. It sounds so good and is very true. Whenever I hear “and historians will call them” I immediately start to vibe. SUCHA GREAT SONG
@oublaire
@oublaire 2 года назад
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@natuskaa.
@natuskaa. 2 года назад
@@oublaire OMG I DIDNT EXPECT YOU TO REPLY
@amfthatlovesxiao897
@amfthatlovesxiao897 2 года назад
OMFG U PLAY GENSHIN
@natuskaa.
@natuskaa. 2 года назад
@@amfthatlovesxiao897 YUH I DO
@amfthatlovesxiao897
@amfthatlovesxiao897 2 года назад
@@natuskaa. OOO WHOS UR MAIN? I MAIN KAZU
@ayuki9329
@ayuki9329 2 года назад
i just recently discovered this song accidentally on tiktok last week and i literally feel in love with it the moment i first heard it and i’ve been waiting for the full song to be released today !! i love it so much i will play this song 24/7 on repeat 😌
@helloearth2178
@helloearth2178 2 года назад
Same 😁
@b_wolfie2097
@b_wolfie2097 2 года назад
Same
@kittycat5766
@kittycat5766 2 года назад
SAME
@twotix2209
@twotix2209 2 года назад
same
@iuvyne
@iuvyne 2 года назад
same
@Mesothuulas
@Mesothuulas Год назад
my history teacher to us: "Historians suck these days, these men were probably more then Comrades and were lovers." i love that dude- And his husband
@hallo4651
@hallo4651 Год назад
nothing sus
@animalprotectionclub7011
@animalprotectionclub7011 Год назад
That's AWESOME. Turn every history teacher in the world to your's.
@sapphicsapphire82
@sapphicsapphire82 9 месяцев назад
Achilles and Patroclus?
@nopenoodles255
@nopenoodles255 2 года назад
My gf and I joke about being ‘gal pals’ and ‘close friends’ because we find it funny, as when we are together we are obviously _together_. But I still call her ‘my friend’ when I’m talking to ppl I don’t really know. And every time it feels like I’m putting up a little shield to keep those people away, but in doing so I lose her in that version of me. It’s such a little thing, just four letter missing in front of the word ‘friend’. Dut in doing so, feels like a part of me and my life is missing. I don’t want to lose her in any version of me. I love her in all of them. Even if history would hate us. A sucky thing that an unfortunate number of queer people relate to.
@hetsteills2748
@hetsteills2748 2 года назад
i’m sorry this is so random but- this. this is so beautifully written and i didn’t expect to be on the verge of tears on a tuesday night at 12 am wtf
@Joplas99
@Joplas99 Год назад
We must live in pride the love others lived in shame
@dead-ringer
@dead-ringer Год назад
“I don’t want to lose her in any version of me. I love her in all of them. Even if history would hate us.” Oh my god, that is the most beautiful thing I’ve heard in my life.
@drchicken2477
@drchicken2477 Год назад
@@hetsteills2748 wtf? i'm also here on the verge of tears (aka weeping) on a tuesday night at 12 am :o
@thatrandomchick3607
@thatrandomchick3607 Год назад
My dumbass was interpreting “those four words” to be best. Like best friends. And I was like “did you even hear the song??” Promptly realized the 4 letters are girl and I am stupid
@_veronica_r
@_veronica_r 2 года назад
I love how the song says nothing about it being an lgbt relationship, we all just know it is.
@cinny1313
@cinny1313 8 месяцев назад
That's cause this bullshit doesn't happen with straight relationships throughout history, never in my life have i seen anyone uniroically say a man and a woman were very close best friends. I'd say the opposite is more true, people tend to assume they were a couple with minimal evidence
@PhuongTran-yj7wz
@PhuongTran-yj7wz 5 месяцев назад
Just perfect, am i right?
@user-sf7rk9wl9z
@user-sf7rk9wl9z 4 месяца назад
The song Is literally about a LGTB topic
@_veronica_r
@_veronica_r 4 месяца назад
@@user-sf7rk9wl9z I-- yes...? But where in the song does it say so? It doesn't. We just infer it.
@X_LYL_LCRB
@X_LYL_LCRB 2 года назад
I'll dedicate this song to Patroclus and Achilles' / Hamilton and Laurens' "friendship" and Sappho's "heterosexuality" Ps.: I genuinely loved this song so much!! Edit: Grammar mistake (English isn't my first language, srry)
@reyniedaze2413
@reyniedaze2413 2 года назад
just like "I want to be buried with this man I love him" AH YES HETEROSEXUALITY
@X_LYL_LCRB
@X_LYL_LCRB 2 года назад
@@reyniedaze2413 Exactly!! Do people actually consider THAT friendship??
@adrianaalves6655
@adrianaalves6655 2 года назад
I was looking for this comment
@X_LYL_LCRB
@X_LYL_LCRB 2 года назад
@@adrianaalves6655 Really?!?! Thank you!! ^w^
@ezresagen2140
@ezresagen2140 8 месяцев назад
Add in Isabella of Prama and her sister-in-law. There are VERY EXPLICIT letters between the two. They were so clearly lovers!
@Nau_ru
@Nau_ru 2 года назад
"I wish, my Dear Laurens, it might be in my power, by action rather than words, to convince you that I love you. I shall only tell you that ’till you bade us Adieu, I hardly knew the value you had taught my heart to set upon you". - Alexander Hamilton, to his best friend John Laurens.
@entitledpussy1411
@entitledpussy1411 2 года назад
"best friend"
@Nau_ru
@Nau_ru 2 года назад
@@entitledpussy1411 Obviously /s
@entitledpussy1411
@entitledpussy1411 2 года назад
@@Nau_ru didn't mean it in a rude way srry
@Nau_ru
@Nau_ru 2 года назад
@@entitledpussy1411 Oh no, don't worry! I'm sorry, I didn't mean it that way either
@nagerimanualidades9403
@nagerimanualidades9403 2 года назад
Its actually confirmed that Alexander's son crossed out some parts of the letters between them before publishing them, wonder why. A posible secret romantic relationship is also touched upon in Alexander Hamilton's biography (the one that inspired the creation of the Brodway musical), and i don't know if this is historically accurate ( don't remember if i read it on the internet or on the biography) but i think someone close to Hamilton used to call Laffayette, Laurens and Hamilton somethig along the lines of "the gay trio"
@rosie_music9022
@rosie_music9022 2 года назад
during the WW II there were three Polish guys - Tadeusz Zawadzki - his nickname was Zośka, Jan Bytnar - nickname Rudy and Maciej Aleksy Dawidowski - nickname Alek. They were best friends. They were about 20 years old when they were fighting against the Nazis by for example recapturing the prisoners, taking off the Nazi flags or writing texts against them on the walls. But between two of them - Rudy and Zośka - there was a special relationship. Then the Nazis captured Rudy and tortured him to get the information about the organization he was in. He didn't say anything. The Nazis hurt him so badly that he was dying. Zośka visited him in the prison. Rudy was complaining about his pain, but in the same time he was saying how wonderful he was feeling. He said that they will travel to the countryside and live together while he would heal. Then he told Zośka to lie down next to him. He hugged his head and felt asleep. Yeah, historians call them best friends. Historians say that telling that they were in love is offending the memory about them. History hates lovers...
@inspirujacyimajestatyczyni9998
@inspirujacyimajestatyczyni9998 2 года назад
Ok even if they were actually "only friends" the sentence "historians say that telling that they were in love is offending their memory" is so funny to me. Oh yes the most insulting thing in the world, saying that someone might have not been straight
@fagnasu
@fagnasu 2 года назад
Is there any confirmed info that they might not be besties, but in love? Or only denying?
@beegirl851
@beegirl851 Год назад
Oh bless you for writing about them! It's an absolutely heartbreaking story
@dr.petrov9630
@dr.petrov9630 Год назад
Didn’t they have girlfriends?
@RavenSutcliffe
@RavenSutcliffe Год назад
@@dr.petrov9630 Wilde had a wife, don't think that's much of a point
@genderfluidpileofmushandge9634
@genderfluidpileofmushandge9634 2 года назад
Gay lovers be like: Historians after listening to this: Ahhhh so besties
@starchimedes
@starchimedes 2 года назад
imagine the potential this could've had in 2016-17, like the hamilton fandom would have CLAIMED this.
@elyzionite
@elyzionite 2 года назад
The amrev Tumblr claimed it instead :DD
@amandalynn4979
@amandalynn4979 2 года назад
Oh honey. We're still here.
@TeaBeeLeaves12
@TeaBeeLeaves12 2 года назад
We're still around. Always will be...
@Hey_0.0
@Hey_0.0 2 года назад
YaS
@majelicajham
@majelicajham Год назад
We're still here
@cramerfloro5936
@cramerfloro5936 2 года назад
I’m realizing how lucky i was with my highschool teachers, who (mostly) didn’t give two flying F*cks of historian’s hate of loving relationships, and just told us of most of the queer relationships, that they knew of. Of course they couldn’t get away with everything. I remember when my literature teacher taught us the biography of Giacomo Leopardi, one of the most esteemed and respected poets of Italian Literature, and when she told us how he lived the last part of his life with the writer Antonio Ranieri, who took care of him and was his emotional support at the very end of his sickness, she told us “just remember that there still is a hot debate among historians about what exactly the nature of their “Friendship” was”, and she paused and gave us that look, that look that says “You know what I mean…”
@RavenSutcliffe
@RavenSutcliffe Год назад
Leopardi couldn't have been more bi if he'd trained for it like....
@sirmodstan5489
@sirmodstan5489 Год назад
OMG IM ITALIAN AND HAD NO CLUE WHY DON'T THEY WRITE THIS STUFF IN BOOKS ISTG I LIVE NEAR LEOPARDI'S HOMETOWN
@RavenSutcliffe
@RavenSutcliffe Год назад
@@sirmodstan5489 I think "why don't they write this stuff in books" is the whole point xD I honestly think if Wilde hadn't gone out the way he did, they'd be talking about his "close friendship" with Bosie Douglas DaVinci literally doodled d*cks in his sketchbooks and little comments about his model/lover (the one who posed for Saint John The Baptist) as well as various of his apprentices and apparently whether or not he was into men is "up for debate", too
@keenanalthavara3347
@keenanalthavara3347 2 года назад
My favorite composer: -writes "love me as I love you" in a letter to his "friend" -Starts a letter to said "friend" stating that the kiss he sent him comes from his heart -states in the same letter that all the sirens (aka ladies who flirted with him) in the world doesn't really matter to him and all he cares about was for the continuation of him and the "friend" 's "friendship" -Asks in the ending of a letter to the "friend" about his alleged marriage whether he still loves him or not, and vows that he (the composer) shall love the "friend" until his dying day Historians: Ah yes, a completely heterosexual dude who's also a total Casanova.
@andreah9587
@andreah9587 2 года назад
Which composer is this? Chopin?
@ennui9745
@ennui9745 2 года назад
It's Chopin isn't it?
@littlefawn1637
@littlefawn1637 2 года назад
@@andreah9587 It's actually Paganini and the "friend" is Luigi Germi!
@littlefawn1637
@littlefawn1637 2 года назад
@@ennui9745 nope, it's Paganini and the "friend" is Luigi Germi.
@ennui9745
@ennui9745 2 года назад
@@littlefawn1637 Thank you!
@noxlux9163
@noxlux9163 2 года назад
i like how everyone uses this song lightheartedly but this actually has a deep and nice meaning to it
@javidamico9510
@javidamico9510 2 года назад
"2 kids and a golden retriever" 😫😫 loved it
@lea-la-reveuse
@lea-la-reveuse 2 года назад
That song reminds me of one of my French teachers. She didn't seem really comfortable explaining how Rimbaud and Verlaine (two of the most famous French writers) were a couple for years (it ended quite sadly but we stan a good gay couple that's recognized) and she was keeping her face down as she didn't want to see our faces while she was saying it 😂
@billie1129
@billie1129 2 года назад
ouais sauf que Verlaine était beaucoup plus vieux que Rimbaud c'était un peu zarb et en plus il lui a tiré dans la jambe ce bâtard. moi c'était l'opposé complet. mon prof était hyper progressiste sur la question du coup on avait droit à la vie sentimentale complète de tous les auteurs. du style, oui Marguerite Yourcenar et Grace Frick elle vivaient toutes les deux dans une petite maison aux US, Jean-Luc Lagarce il était gay et quand il a écrit "Juste la fin du monde" il venait de choper le sida et il croyait qu'il allait mourir. et y en a plein d'autres...Marcel Proust dit dans son questionnaire qu'il aime chez les hommes les "charmes féminins" ;) et Van Gogh qui a proposé à Gauguin qu'il vienne vivre avec lui quand il était dans la merde, puis après quand Gauguin s'est barré, Van Gogh a pété une crise et s'est coupé l'oreille...ça met la puce à l'oreille, sans mauvais jeu de mots.
@naturazpolski9213
@naturazpolski9213 Год назад
It has the same power like teachers that are too embarrased to say the word ,,sex" in front of the students. If you are embarrased to say it, you should reconsider working with youth!
@Kolxya
@Kolxya 7 месяцев назад
LMAO, FR?
@kiera1200
@kiera1200 11 дней назад
@@Kolxyawtf r u doing here
@Kolxya
@Kolxya 11 дней назад
@@kiera1200 WHY ARE YOU HERE.
@uberdriver6016
@uberdriver6016 8 месяцев назад
One of my favourite examples of this was the tomb of the “brothers”! They are literally depicted in the same position that married couples were in on all the tomb paintings! And yet the historians are like “ah yes! Brothers!”
@albedoslab6895
@albedoslab6895 2 года назад
I LITERALLY FORGOT ABOUT THIS AND IT CAME OUT YESTERDAY AND I WAS RUSHING TO LOOK FOR THIS WHEN I REMEMBERED I LOVE IT SO MUCH-
@Cup_o_Caffeine
@Cup_o_Caffeine 2 года назад
Whos
@albedoslab6895
@albedoslab6895 2 года назад
@@Cup_o_Caffeine i corrected it I hope now it makes more sense,I was rushing to write that because I needed to help my father with soemthing
@MinisDunyasi5
@MinisDunyasi5 6 месяцев назад
When a man writes to another man saying “If I could marry you I would, but the law stands between us, my dearest, lover. How do you think about running away to a small remote island where there will only be two of us, please consider this my lover, I’m tired of hiding my love towards you around others. I don’t care about anyone else but you love. - Yours sincerely” Historians: “sUcH cLoSe FRieNds” When a man writes to a woman “dear” Historians: LOVERS
@skidibop2296
@skidibop2296 2 года назад
as someone who is deeply invested in history i love this, i can confirm that almost every historian will ignore the fact that two same sex "friends" are actually in love. btw this song is so damn catchy like i can't-
@bichiligx
@bichiligx 2 года назад
I love this song so much. I CAN'T STOP THINKING ABOUT PATROCHILLES 💖💖💖
@paniccastiel6690
@paniccastiel6690 2 года назад
Same!! This song is for them!! Like clearly Achilles and Patroclus were mad lovers
@rhayz
@rhayz 2 года назад
Just me casually singing this in front of my homophobic family 😁
@willywonka_.
@willywonka_. 2 года назад
Lmao mood
@imatcpell1987
@imatcpell1987 2 года назад
RIP
@mishaelsavannahraewong1898
@mishaelsavannahraewong1898 2 года назад
YES PREACH🏳️‍🌈
@musicalartist2584
@musicalartist2584 2 года назад
I would love a video of their reaction 😂
@seriengirl4604
@seriengirl4604 2 года назад
Saaaame 😂
@eijiroukirishima4398
@eijiroukirishima4398 2 года назад
I love that my teacher will straight up say that they were lovers instead of friends, it so nice to think that not every history teacher will cover it up
@MinisDunyasi5
@MinisDunyasi5 Год назад
I wish I had your history teacher, my history teacher will always call them “best friends”. *sigh* history hates lovers.
@ppriyaswiftictioner9599
@ppriyaswiftictioner9599 2 года назад
"How many decades of hiding?" I felt that😭😭
@rekigod1902
@rekigod1902 2 года назад
This song makes me think a lot about Alexander Hamilton and John Laurens, especially the part of "too many handwritten letters, signed to my dearest with love". If you have read the letters, you know what I'm talking about, if you haven't, I suggest you do and tell me if you agree with historians calling them "best buddies"
@s.sumbrella7616
@s.sumbrella7616 2 года назад
YOU CAN'T TELL ME THEY WEREN'T IN LOVE
@arsoncos__8331
@arsoncos__8331 2 года назад
I AGREE WITH THIS SO MUCH
@marysummers233
@marysummers233 2 года назад
Hamilton’s grandson (maybe great correct me if I’m wrong) call Lafayette, Lauren’s, and Hamilton the “gay trio” and everyone’s argument is that it means happy but the name happy trio? Doesn’t make sense to me.
@billcipher8645
@billcipher8645 2 года назад
@@marysummers233 bruh historian moment
@MinisDunyasi5
@MinisDunyasi5 Год назад
Alexander Hamilton to John Laurens "Cold in my professions, warm in my friendships, I wish, my dear Laurens, it might be in my power by action rather than words to convince you that I love you. I shall only tell you that till you bade us adieu, I hardly knew the value you taught my heart to set upon you. Indeed, my friend, it was not well done. You know the opinion I entertain of mankind and how much it is my desire to preserve myself free from particular attachments and to keep my happiness independent to the caprice of others. You should not have taken advantage of my sensibility to steal into my affections without consent. But as you have done it and as we are generally indulgent to those we love, I shall not scruple to pardon the fraud you have committed, on condition that for my sake, if not for your own, you will always continue to merit the partiality, which you have artfully instilled into me.” Historians: Ah yes, bEsT FriENdS.
@haleyadors23
@haleyadors23 2 года назад
Alexander Hamilton and John Laurens Historians: and they were good friends
@samrtherat
@samrtherat 2 года назад
"Good friends" 😂
@_..Rae.._
@_..Rae.._ 2 года назад
"aNd ThEy WeRe RoOmMaTeS"
@ren9879
@ren9879 2 года назад
Yeaaaah good friends let's stick to this idea...
@adrianaalves6655
@adrianaalves6655 2 года назад
"And I took that personally"
@Hey_0.0
@Hey_0.0 2 года назад
CoLd iN mY pRofEsSioNs WaRm iN mY fRienDsHipS I wiSh mY dEar LaUreNs- *cries*
@kemiller2026
@kemiller2026 2 года назад
Hamilton: *literally has a mental breakdown and his life spirals after Laurens dies* Historians: Ah, yes, they must have been extremely close friends nothing was going on between them The letters: *…cold in my professions, warm in my friendships, I wish, my dear Laurens, that it may be in my actions rather than words to convince you that I love you* Historians: …see, he said “friendships” they were just friends
@jamesnugent2213
@jamesnugent2213 2 года назад
*Achilles and Patroclus:* "When I am dead, I charge you to mingle our ashes and bury us together." *Alexander Hamilton and John Laurens:* "Cold in my professions, warm in my friendships, I wish, my dear Laurens, it might be in my power, by action rather than words, to convince you that I love you." *David and Jonathan:* "Now Jonathan again caused David to vow, because he loved him; for he loved him as he loved his own soul." *Daniel and Ashpenaz:* "Now God had brought Daniel to Ashpenaz, the prince of the eunuchs, he showed mercy and engaged in physical love with Daniel." *Historians:* Yeah, I'm pretty sure they were just bEsT fRiEnDs.
@eleanorcatherino3839
@eleanorcatherino3839 2 года назад
Don’t forget Ruth and Naomi in the Bible, she literally said a marraige vow to her
@eleanorcatherino3839
@eleanorcatherino3839 2 года назад
But Ruth said, "Do not press me to leave you or to turn back from following you! Where you go, I will go; where you lodge, I will lodge; your people shall be my people, and your God my God. 17 Where you die, I will die- there will I be buried. May the Lord do thus and so to me, and more as well, if even death parts me from you!"
@thepencillovinglegend5634
@thepencillovinglegend5634 9 месяцев назад
@@eleanorcatherino3839 wow! you know what the bible also says?? וְאֶ֨ת־זָכָ֔ר לֹ֥א תִשְׁכַּ֖ב מִשְׁכְּבֵ֣י אִשָּׁ֑ה תּֽוֹעֵבָ֖ה הִֽוא:‎ "Ve'et-zachar lo tishkav mishkevei ishah to'evah hi." Ve'et- (And) zachar (a male) lo (not) tishkav (you shall lie) mishkevei (beds of/coitally) ishah (a woman) to'evah (an abomination) hi (it)
@neanxie7601
@neanxie7601 5 месяцев назад
@@eleanorcatherino3839no but Naomi was older than Ruth 😅Naomi was her mother in law that time
@eleanorcatherino3839
@eleanorcatherino3839 5 месяцев назад
@@neanxie7601 I mean, considering the Bible and the time it’s probably the most wholesome you’re gonna get
@winogronkowa
@winogronkowa 2 года назад
I need other version of this but with: "And history will call them... enemies, foes, opponents"
@Willa1901
@Willa1901 Год назад
YES THO
@SunshineDeathboy
@SunshineDeathboy 2 года назад
This is giving me so much Patroclus and Achilles vibes.. Also, all those LGBT couples from the Greek Era.. That was somehow revised to the morning tales.. Making them just friends..
@thatcottagecorewitch5910
@thatcottagecorewitch5910 2 года назад
Friendly reminder that Anne Frank was bi and that several pages of her diary were glued together because she wrote about having a crush on one of the girls in her class.
@elyzionite
@elyzionite 2 года назад
WAIT REALLY?? AYY WHAT A QUEEN! Btw do you have any sources 👀
@loki1456
@loki1456 2 года назад
Yeah, fifteen pages of her diary were removed. In them, she talks about being moved near to tears seeing the Venus De Milo and said she wished she had a girlfriend. It's very wholesome.
@ii_strangerxxthings
@ii_strangerxxthings Год назад
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? SO YOURE SAYING I THOUGHT I READ HER ENTIRE DIARY IN SCHOOL AND TURNS OUT PARTS WERE PURPOSELLY TAKEN OUT?? God historians really do hate lovers..
@animalprotectionclub7011
@animalprotectionclub7011 Год назад
BICON.
@hemingshark327
@hemingshark327 Год назад
@@elyzionite The Diary of a Young Girl is the source I'm relatively sure of it.
@spaghetae5679
@spaghetae5679 2 года назад
“close friends, besties, roommates, colleagues anything but lovers” this part playing in my mind on repeat
@rissaver5199
@rissaver5199 2 года назад
First thing coming up to my mind: Achilles and Patrochilles. Our teacher told us right away, that even though our text books say they were only friends and cousins, they were also lovers. And back then it was pretty common. Many other things controversial now, were normal back then. Why should we cover it up? Because it would piss off some people that can't accept the fact that love is love?
@NatFloofer
@NatFloofer 2 года назад
George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, Achilles, Patroclus, Sappho, and so many more needed to bee seen! I love this song so much!
@NatFloofer
@NatFloofer Год назад
@YVES well, it is possible that George Washington could've been gay. Of course, it'll be hard to know because of the same reason this song was made.
@NatFloofer
@NatFloofer Год назад
@YVES fair, I may have gotten my research wrong. There's a lot of suspiciously flowery personal letters.
@kayosaurus9581
@kayosaurus9581 2 года назад
I'm literally reading "The Song Of Achilles" right now, perfect song to play in the background lmao
@getinloserweregoingshopping947
this was 5 months ago you probably finished the book so im just checking up on you
@ferdinandarroza548
@ferdinandarroza548 Год назад
You okay now?
@bulb__7597
@bulb__7597 Год назад
you still emotionally damaged?
@sabela6725
@sabela6725 Год назад
No answer means no 😂
@sk3llyb0nes
@sk3llyb0nes 2 года назад
And when you try and bring up the multiple accounts of evidence showing that they were clearly in love, people be like "WhY dO yOu HaVe To MaKe EvErYtHiNg GaY???"
@raddkabalogova9904
@raddkabalogova9904 2 года назад
Because that IS GAY! You can't tell me otherwise. If we see gay then it's gay. I will never understant people who think that we make everything gay cause'that is gay🏳️‍🌈
@stuartwilliams3206
@stuartwilliams3206 2 года назад
As a historian, I can say that indeed, we don't actually call people who are in love "lovers". Especially, when love for them is forbidden.
@jeff4762
@jeff4762 2 года назад
May I ask why that is?
@stuartwilliams3206
@stuartwilliams3206 2 года назад
@@jeff4762 what forbidden means? It's when u are not allowed to have something. In this case, maybe the people we are talking about are the same gender, or from different families that are currently at war
@jeff4762
@jeff4762 2 года назад
@@stuartwilliams3206 Ah, that makes sense! Thanks for clearing that up.
@sleepydreams9046
@sleepydreams9046 2 года назад
Even If those people are long dead?
@stuartwilliams3206
@stuartwilliams3206 2 года назад
@@sleepydreams9046 in what way for u mean?
@george8277
@george8277 2 года назад
"Cold in my professions- warm in my friendships- I wish, my Dear Laurens, it were in my power, by actions rather than words, to convince you that I love you. I shall only tell you that 'till you bade us Adieu, I hardly knew the value you had taught my heart to set upon you." - A bit of Alexander Hamilton's letter to John Laurens. Historians: Naw bro, they were best friends!
@elidrawz8346
@elidrawz8346 2 года назад
YESS I WAS JUST ABT TO COMMENT ABT THEM !! also hamilton signing off letters to laurens w "yrs for ever" and writing to him while he was imprisoned, but sure they were just Very Close Friends
@george8277
@george8277 2 года назад
@@elidrawz8346 they had more intimacy then he had with the schuyler sisters because what he wanted from them was legacy.
@Hey_0.0
@Hey_0.0 2 года назад
"Alexander, you're the *closest friend* I got"
@george8277
@george8277 Год назад
@YVES Sorry! I kind of just focused on the most popular bit people know-
@Y0UR_W0RST_N1GHTM4RE_
@Y0UR_W0RST_N1GHTM4RE_ 9 месяцев назад
Hamilton: writes s3xual, romantic things to John Laurens as a married man. Historians: oh they're just best friends!
@AlexanderHamiltonTheOG
@AlexanderHamiltonTheOG 4 месяца назад
Also Hamilton: Puts a comma in a phrase to Angelica Historians: 😨😨😨
@nighttempus5827
@nighttempus5827 2 года назад
Historical Alexander Hamilton and John Laurence that’s all I gotta says
@alesunflower2164
@alesunflower2164 2 года назад
"Do you want to be close friends, in a historical way" is now the best way to flirt with someone
@elenas3571
@elenas3571 2 года назад
Historians: Sappho was simply writing about her students and the _platonic_ love she felt for them! Us: “THEIR IS NO HETEROSEXUAL EXPLANATION FOR THIS!”
@allshookup1640
@allshookup1640 2 года назад
As a historian, I can say that I 100% do NOT hate lovers. I do annoy my colleagues a bit though because I may or may not have a bit of hair trigger for saying “or MAYBE they were lovers have we thought of that yet?!” You would be SHOCKED how many historical documents heavily hint at close close relationships that COULD very well be lovers and it’s immediately dismissed.
@Y0UR_W0RST_N1GHTM4RE_
@Y0UR_W0RST_N1GHTM4RE_ 9 месяцев назад
Historians: right! He wrote a letter once to a woman.. Theyre inlove! Hamilton: literally describes how he loves John Laurens. Historians: and they're best friends 😊😊
@rebma8829
@rebma8829 2 года назад
This song: Future historians: Yes yes, a very hetero song about very hetero people, obviously
@Joplas99
@Joplas99 Год назад
Obviously about interracial straight couples suffering from discriminate
@inkthelosermoonshine2094
@inkthelosermoonshine2094 2 года назад
~and historians will call them~ Close friends Besties Roomates Colleagues Anything but lovers, history hates lovers Sidekicks Family Good pals Buddies Anything but lovers ~history hates lovers~
@dizzyandkoko
@dizzyandkoko 2 года назад
I think the best thing about this is the fact that it isn't explicitly gay. To me, that just makes it feel more honest and treats these relationships like what they are, real love between two people. Also, I can just see some homophobe singing this thinking it's some Romeo and Juliette story.
@Lord_Medieval_Pizza
@Lord_Medieval_Pizza 6 месяцев назад
That last bit would be funny
@laurenholm2288
@laurenholm2288 Год назад
This reminds me of the "friendship" between John Laurens and Alexander Hamilton because there is proof they did love each other
@mrs_papita
@mrs_papita Год назад
THIS!
@mikustan3179
@mikustan3179 2 года назад
People living together, sleeping in the same bed, kissing, having kids etc. Historians: "They were friends, good friends, acquaintances 😊👌"
@L1zz707
@L1zz707 2 года назад
**achilles and Patroclus jamming this song in chiron's cave**
@KoolKittKat4679
@KoolKittKat4679 Год назад
I come back to this song when I feel horrible about the state of the USA, and cry. I hope ANYONE being effected by these new laws against the LGBTQA+ community stays safe and know even though the government wants to erase you, you will never be silenced and you are loved by many people who will support you.
@alli6550
@alli6550 2 года назад
I have feelings for you I have feelings.....for you THE FEELING WAS FRIENDSHIP BUT NEITHER OF THEM HAVE EXPERIENCED IT
@mushroomhollow5735
@mushroomhollow5735 2 года назад
This song is amazing
@colaheart_7442
@colaheart_7442 2 года назад
Historians will always try to hide the gay historic relationships, but for Apollo from Greek Mythology… they can’t even, he was such a raging bisexual that they practically don’t even try to cover it up
@hermitsunite953
@hermitsunite953 Год назад
The entire Greek history is gay and they don't even try to hide it
@ahh807
@ahh807 6 месяцев назад
They can't cover it up he's too gay
@athanasia176
@athanasia176 3 месяца назад
They did try tho 😂😂
@colaheart_7442
@colaheart_7442 3 месяца назад
Yeah cause him and Hyacinthus were just “really good friends”
@caitlindare2137
@caitlindare2137 2 года назад
I'm French and in my textbook it was written that Rimbaud and Verlaine had a "passionate friendship" and my teacher told us they weren't friends but lovers- But I think their couple is one of the most recognised gay couple of history (in another textbook it was clear they weren't just friends it was written that they had a passionate relation but the words couple or lovers were never written)
@ahh807
@ahh807 6 месяцев назад
I love those gay people
@marblecloudsss7425
@marblecloudsss7425 2 года назад
“with whom I am more in love than ever” “My God, what an angelic creature and how I long to be his slave, his plaything, his property! ”My rendezvous had been arranged for this evening. A truly bitter-sweet dilemma! Finally I decided to go. I spent two absolutely wonderful hours in the most romantic circumstances; I was scared, I was thrilled, I was afraid of the slightest sound. Embraces, kisses, an out-of-the-way apartment… tender talk, what delight!” -Tchaikovsky
@eligal643
@eligal643 Год назад
EXCUSE ME????
@sachsoup
@sachsoup Год назад
"how I long to be his slave" damn, I didn't know Tchaikovsky was this... kin-
@eligal643
@eligal643 Год назад
@@sachsoup omg i didnt even notice that 😭😭😭😭
@drchicken2477
@drchicken2477 Год назад
@@sachsoup and plaything and property, too!
@anthnforourmoony
@anthnforourmoony Год назад
kInkYyy
@navarretecasadofatimacathe9852
@navarretecasadofatimacathe9852 2 года назад
Es increíble el arte que hace, no solo la canción de banana fish, sino está y las demás de su canal, espero que sigas creciendo ❤️
@CorvidArt
@CorvidArt 2 года назад
De qué? 👁💧👄💧👁
@lapinatadelafiesta
@lapinatadelafiesta 2 года назад
Banana Fish? 🥲💔
@cadennemcdaris788
@cadennemcdaris788 2 года назад
Did Google Translate goof up or did this amazing songwriter write a song about banana fish?
@navarretecasadofatimacathe9852
@navarretecasadofatimacathe9852 2 года назад
@@lapinatadelafiesta hizo una canción que Eiji le dedicaba a Ash
@navarretecasadofatimacathe9852
@navarretecasadofatimacathe9852 2 года назад
@@cadennemcdaris788 Google has not been wrong, I really create one and it is impressive
@user-xz9yv4zd6u
@user-xz9yv4zd6u 2 года назад
This has got to be one of the best songs I’ve ever heard, by far. I cannot explain how much this song means to me, as a queer trans man :]
@literallysatan5495
@literallysatan5495 2 года назад
Reminds me of an argument I had with my history teacher about a dude being gay because normal freinds don't wanna have their ashes mixed
@Hawthorn_09
@Hawthorn_09 2 месяца назад
My history class was joking about how we should watch Hamilton, and my teacher’s argument on why we wouldn’t was because it wasn’t really accurate because “it was more likely that Hamilton was having an affair with John Laurens than Angelica” and that shut everyone up real quick for some reason 💀
@Yanagapa_
@Yanagapa_ 2 месяца назад
HELP
@eeveemestiza1784
@eeveemestiza1784 2 года назад
Historical couples that were writted as "friends" here. I start: Gabriela Mistral and Doris Dana
@user-qi2wi8uy9h
@user-qi2wi8uy9h 2 года назад
Hamilton and Laurens
@kat-vw9yq
@kat-vw9yq 2 года назад
achilles and patroclus
@kat-vw9yq
@kat-vw9yq 2 года назад
Alexander the great and Hephaestion
@thechaoticcompendium
@thechaoticcompendium 2 года назад
@@user-qi2wi8uy9h I was gonna say that how dare you-
@amyarlert9503
@amyarlert9503 2 года назад
eren and floch
@littlefawn1637
@littlefawn1637 2 года назад
"The kiss I send you comes from my heart... All the sirens in the world may go to the devil. All I care for is the continuance of your friendship." "Although I miss your companionship, you sent me such a dear and charming letter, that not content with reading it myself, I enlivened a brilliant conversation with extracts from it." "Let me soon have the joy of clasping you to my heart. I have so many things to say to you that will give you pleasure. Love me as I love you." "How are you, mio caro? Do you still love me? I shall love you till my dying day." "Times are not too auspicious, but life is too short. It bids us not to waste it. Heaven send that I may see you again before I die." "Do not cease to love me. I live only for you and for my son." "If I return home and live near you, I shall prolong my days." "Without you I am a body without a soul." "Come post haste. I am in need of your comfort." "I hope to live many more years and to have the happiness of embracing you again-a consolation which may almost be compared to the bliss of lovely and genuine music." "I beseech you to love me." "Never stop loving me. I cannot tell you what a comfort your letter was.[...] I embrace you tenderly." (Excerpts of letters from N.P to L.G.G, taken from Renee de Saussine's biography of N.P)
@mags57
@mags57 Год назад
I love how many people said Alexander Hamilton and John Lauren’s
@fhiyweFVGIY
@fhiyweFVGIY Год назад
I got a girlfriend (I’m female) and I came out to my friends by saying “Historians will say we were acquaintances, maybe even friends”
@_fireflower_
@_fireflower_ 2 года назад
I'm so happy that the complete song _came out_
@kyokajirou4068
@kyokajirou4068 2 года назад
I've been waiting too long for this masterpiece between I love your voice sow much
@ash.-.
@ash.-. 2 года назад
Achilles: Mingle our ashes when I’m dead Patroclus: *Fights in Achilles’s armor and acts as him in order to keep his status up* Historians: yes BESTIES 😍 Hollywood: THATS WHAT ID DO WITH MY CoUSin TOO😍😍☝️☝️☝️ Artemis: only inside my temple are ONLY WOMEN aloud and virgins too… Virgin women Historians: yup Artemis is straight 😍☝️
@inescaldeira6677
@inescaldeira6677 Год назад
Artemis and hestia de Ace Queens :3
@CatCatKitten
@CatCatKitten Год назад
Artemis is the ace queen we all need sometimes
@galahadyouknowwhat2224
@galahadyouknowwhat2224 2 года назад
As a Historian, some of us are trying to change this!
@Ali-yh3kh
@Ali-yh3kh 2 года назад
i wanna become a historian basically to change this...
@doveshade2882
@doveshade2882 2 года назад
Yep, kissed in public, must be friends. During pride month this will blasted on my lgbtq+ playlist to the whole world!
@FantaSea849
@FantaSea849 2 года назад
As a Hamilton fan, I recently found out that Ham and Laurens were apparently more than just friends.
@Hey_0.0
@Hey_0.0 2 года назад
They're just friends (sarcastic)
@spirit2117
@spirit2117 2 года назад
I was listening to this nonstop in history class and almost cried. Definitely one of my new favorite songs.
@Annie-on3tu
@Annie-on3tu 2 года назад
Dios realmente esperé demasiado por esto pero es más que obvio que valió la pena la espera ♡
@aruxani
@aruxani 2 года назад
They both loved eachother. She wanted to protect her from this cruel world. She joined the Survey Corps just for her, after all. The girl with royal blood. She didn't expect to fall in love with her though. She was like a goddess. Everyone loved her. She never told her how she felt. All she did was make jokes about marrying her. At least, everyone saw them as jokes. Eventually... Everything came to an end when she picked the wrong side and they were forced apart. She had little time to live. So she wrote a letter as a final goodbye... Saying how she regretted that she never married her. And so, the tale of the girl with royal blood and her protector ended in a tragedy. Because Historians hate lovers.
@loki1456
@loki1456 2 года назад
Why must you do this? That hurted.
@aruxani
@aruxani 2 года назад
@@loki1456 Sorry 😭😭 I also wanted to do an Eremika version-
@tiya8431
@tiya8431 2 года назад
@@aruxani DO IT PLEASE
@aruxani
@aruxani 2 года назад
@@tiya8431 I might 👀
@donyabagheri6455
@donyabagheri6455 2 года назад
i fell inlove with this girl at school during a school production we were in and i told my mum and she just said "it was just the heat of the stage, and what about that boy you met?" I NEVER LIKD HIM BRUH
@oli_h512
@oli_h512 2 года назад
0:48 "To my dear Historia..."
@ruffespu6368
@ruffespu6368 2 года назад
i always remember of Hamilton and Laurens 😞
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