History of the EMD F40C: Milwaukee Road and Metra's Six Axle Commuter Locomotive 

Thank you for the correction. I’ll make an annotation for the air horn

EMD f40c meeted 1 time on with RTA EMD F40Ph

F40Cs also had Nathan P5 horns

@@arrowlock Yes they did, they all received them eventually as replacements.

I hear ya, one of these should be preserved. I think there’s a good chance that a unit will end up at the Illinois Railway Museum, but it hasn’t happened yet!

@@bigshouldersrails1318 if one of them does get preserved which one do you think would have a better chance 611 or 614?

I honestly don’t know, it all depends on the condition of the two locomotives. I’d assume whichever one is in better shape would go to IRM, assuming only one would go if Metra made that decision.

Im hoping that if one goes into preserveance, then the other would be rebuilt and put back into service

@@railroading A one off locomotive that shares no other parts with the fleet doesn't make economic sense unfortunately

Thank you for your comment! Glad I could help. I didn’t know the difference as a kid either. All I knew was that these units had massive silver panels. I figured they were grills for cooling. Learning later on that they were a bizarre attempt at styling was a head scratcher. It’s all part of the fun of digging up railroading history!

Yes, the R&N can have 614 and the Conway Scenic Raiilroad can have 611!

Probably yes still.

Amtrak should’ve just gone the route of getting a Dash 2 version of the FP45. I’m probably gonna be stuck wondering why they didn’t go that route and instead opted for the SDP40F for the rest of my days.

@@justahillbilly7777 Couple reasons really. The FP45 had a 20 cylinder prime mover, and wasn't particularly reliable. It also guzzled fuel like nobody's business.

Oh hi there

Good explanation of the downfall of the SDP40F!

@@bigshouldersrails1318 I WAS WORKING FOR SANTA FE IN THOSE DAYS IN LOCOMOTIVE SHOPS IN ARGENTINE YARD!

Is your caps lock or shift broken?

That is only one of the many theories regarding the derailments, the best minds in the industry at the time from EMD, FRA, and AAR conducted much testing but never identified a positive cause.

Thanks for hitting 1k views! We’ll see if I get that big…

Or maybe a mix of the OG paint and Metra paint

RU used the horn

They sure are impressive!

Very true. I hope that the Illinois Railway Museum gets at least one of them

@@bigshouldersrails1318 or maybe Metra should repaint their F40Cs in the same paint scheme as the MP36s and get them tier 4

610 was a tragedy.

@superchief 88 Metra’s F40Cs 611 and 614 are survivors

@superchief 88 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_IVpNrrdIHM.html

Me too!

@@bigshouldersrails1318 Maybe Metra should donate both 611 and 614 the R&N.

I honestly have no clue. The picture is on Flickr (you can find it in the description) and it has no notes about those locomotives. It’s a mystery!

They were probably owned by Richard Jensen. I know GTW 5629 was stored at 18th street around this time. One of those locomotives looked like a 10 wheeler that he also owned. I know that locomotive was stored on the CWP&S (pre CRL) for some time in the 80s and is now at the Monticello Railway Museum.

Dear friends, unfortunately, both steam locomotives were scrapped and destroyed, by outsiders, even though the late Mr. Jensen was trying to save them. Because apparently the owners of the roundhouse denied him access. And cut the tracks, so the steamers needed to be disassembled and trucked out to a new location. Unfortunately, there were no offers of assistance, apparently. But the CBQ 5632 4-8-4 Northern was first scrapped. Hopefully. We can get one of the other 4-8-4s rebuilt. Another setback for Mr. JENSEN, occured in the 1980s when GTW 5629 was threatened with destruction. Because the RR wanted it off their property, due to the expansion in the yard. GTW 5629 the 4-6-2 Pacific was an Extremely Popular excursion engine in Chicago in the 1960s as one of the very last steamers certified for mainline service, due to the complete elimination of steam, and open hostility of management against steam. Yet, 5629 was used several times to pull THE GREAT CIRCUS TRAIN from Baraboo and the Circus World Museum, which is also in Wisconsin Dells and close to the Mid Continent Ry. Museum with CNW 1385 which was used much later in the 1980s also seen on VHS Tapes. Yet, 5629 was also rebuilt with a larger tender to carry more coal, which had 6 wheel trucks, and came from a SOO LINE 4-8-2 Mountain class, but unfortunately, there was an extremely bad and lack of communication between steam owners, and other rail museums, and the mistake happened that the National Railroad Museum in Green Bay with their SOO LINE 2718 also a 4-6-2, had the large tender, but however it is so plainly obvious that SOO 2718 still has its original-small style tender from 1923 when built by ALCO, Although the regular tenders were frequently swapped when the steamers were repaired. Thus, the confusion has existed for the past 65 years. But when GTW 5629 was scrapped in the 1980s, the late Mr. Jensen, was extremely criticised. But, he was victimised. Apparently, only some offers to help were just suggestions with no real effort. But, others were more serious, but they still didnt help. Luckily, there are still a couple of the GTW engines displayed in parks, or museums. And it would cost a minimum of 1 Million Dollars to repair, and well worth the price. Th., 10.7.21.A.D.

It would be awesome to see these units back in service, but I remember hearing that Metra has cannibalized these units for parts on the F40PH’s, so I doubt they’ll see revenue service again. I think their best hope is if Metra donates at least one to the Illinois railway museum

@@bigshouldersrails1318 if irm is getting some than we need metra Pullman cars we only have 1 the rest our cnw

@@Wawa111_Mainline I wouldn't hold my breath on it, Metra just sold NIRC 1 to LTEX

Both 611 and 614 still exist, but from what I understand, they are inoperable. My hope is that at least one goes the Illinois Railway Museum. I doubt they’ll ever see revenue service again, but if at least one of them is preserved, then I’ll be happy!

@@bigshouldersrails1318 you may want to look into that time that Metro actually used old Burlington Northern E8 and E9 units on the commuter trains back in the 90s because it's a rather interesting topic

… you may be a mind reader 😉

@@bigshouldersrails1318 nah but I figured it was something that could have been covered. I don't know if you were going to do any other documentaries about railroad history in Illinois but the history regarding Northwestern Steel and Wire is really neat because they still used steam until about 1980 in there mill complex. Then there's the Crab Orchard and Egyptian up in Marion Illinois which used steam until 1986

I’ll take a look into those stories, I’m always on the look for video ideas. As for the BN E Units… that video is in the works

I think that's a mistake

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