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History of The Penguin 

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@smashbro67
@smashbro67 2 года назад
Penguin’s origin is pretty much the “be careful who you call ugly in middle school” meme.
@daleatsoverton9542
@daleatsoverton9542 2 года назад
never seen one of those lol
@imperiumgrim4717
@imperiumgrim4717 2 года назад
LOL that's a good quote to be honest tho
@NazriB
@NazriB 2 года назад
Lies again? Like Penetration Ugly America
@davidvangerner7241
@davidvangerner7241 Год назад
Now that is karma
@MrPercy-zo1pi
@MrPercy-zo1pi 4 месяца назад
​@@daleatsoverton9542you know what one piece is one piece of shit 😂
@ericnancy4385
@ericnancy4385 2 года назад
Collin Farrell's pinguin transformation looks so cool. He's really unrecognizable.
@comora010304
@comora010304 2 года назад
Same, he looks like a different person, almost intimidating
@setsuna2071
@setsuna2071 2 года назад
He nailed that role. From looks to speech. Can't wait to see his hbo max series
@ddzaiii
@ddzaiii 2 года назад
Who's pinguin?
@_thethinker5557
@_thethinker5557 2 года назад
@@ddzaiii John cena and the rocks child
@BudgetFilmmaking
@BudgetFilmmaking 2 года назад
How did you screw up the spelling of a word that's right there in the title?! Seriously, just... look up!
@_thethinker5557
@_thethinker5557 2 года назад
The penguin was always one of my favourite Batman villains!! The fact that he is not completely crazy and has no particular superhuman powers is awesome and his friendship with Riddler is so entertaining
@jamesmoales5195
@jamesmoales5195 2 года назад
Riddler
@darlalathan6143
@darlalathan6143 2 года назад
They were even closer in "Gotham," lol.
@ayrtonpietrobelli6972
@ayrtonpietrobelli6972 2 года назад
@@darlalathan6143 Gotham for a really bad writing had a lot of actors which fit the mannerisms of their characters; Jim Gordon, Alfred, Riddler, Penguin, even Jeremiah and Jerome, but my god the writing was horrific and a lot of points the effects looked bad
@_thethinker5557
@_thethinker5557 2 года назад
@@ayrtonpietrobelli6972 I don't see any thing wrong with Gotham it's one of my favourite series right now
@danzo-zoa2031
@danzo-zoa2031 2 года назад
@@_thethinker5557 same im binge watching it
@milesmorales6305
@milesmorales6305 2 года назад
When you think about it, almost every Batman villain was bullied to the point where they became a bully. It’s actually kinda sad
@sarahsims6164
@sarahsims6164 2 года назад
That is sad to the max; obviously, it doesn't justify most of their actions, but still.
@Unknokownuser
@Unknokownuser 2 года назад
I don’t know if the joker was bullied or not tho
@lurkingShadows
@lurkingShadows 2 года назад
Scarecrow was never bullied. He was the bully.
@jjzipzipstudios5208
@jjzipzipstudios5208 Год назад
@@lurkingShadows not entirely true
@jjzipzipstudios5208
@jjzipzipstudios5208 Год назад
90% sure he wasn’t bullied
@jiml
@jiml 2 года назад
i liked Collin as the penguin particularity his accent sounds like a Brooklyn accent he looks like al capone and his mini series would be intriguing to watch but i wish we could get a movie of his backstory with batman in arkham city he clearly states the waynes destroyed the cobblepots and that personal connection makes for great storytelling
@wholethedogsout880
@wholethedogsout880 2 года назад
he acted like he didnt know the wayne family that intimately tho when he found out who bruce wayne was (funeral scene) and he shows zero resentment towards Bruce in the film (hes nice to him)
@km-1867
@km-1867 2 года назад
I just started watching Gotham. I love this character now, he's a genius. I'm so excited for the movie.
@daleatsoverton9542
@daleatsoverton9542 2 года назад
Danny Devitos Penguin was HAUNTING foo , i watched it as a kid & it was mad scary to me as a child
@thenationaltimelyactionhou9328
@thenationaltimelyactionhou9328 2 года назад
Penguin is definitely one of my favourite villains!
@edrama6623
@edrama6623 2 года назад
The Penguin is a very interesting character in The Batman i never thought i would loved his character before, Matt reeves and Collin Ferrell did a great job with his character the Penguin in this movie is so charismatic and funny he became one of my favorite characters from the movie.
@durellpowell3324
@durellpowell3324 2 года назад
so you have seen the movie?
@edrama6623
@edrama6623 2 года назад
@@durellpowell3324 yes i have
@durellpowell3324
@durellpowell3324 2 года назад
@@edrama6623 Fuckin awesome dude, alas I have to wait until friday but let me ask you, is it as amazing as it looks.
@edrama6623
@edrama6623 2 года назад
@@durellpowell3324 imo it is, the best Batman movie ever it rivaled TDK.
@durellpowell3324
@durellpowell3324 2 года назад
@@edrama6623 Damn! Cant wait to see it.
@tracebaker
@tracebaker 2 года назад
No matter how horrible of things some of Batman's villains do, I think it's almost completely justified by some of their origins. Penguin is the perfect example of that. I've always rooted for him in every story he's in.
@renatocosta8315
@renatocosta8315 2 года назад
Had a feeling for sure that The Penguin got an origin video for sure but maybe some more Batman Villain related videos would be necessary especially when knowing how The Batman has lived up to expectations.
@SCOOTTY_04
@SCOOTTY_04 2 года назад
he also now getting his own series I think
@renatocosta8315
@renatocosta8315 2 года назад
@@SCOOTTY_04 That’s true with Colin Farrel set to reprise the role for HBO Max but also an 80th Anniversary and I think an 80th Anniversary based on plenty of Batman Villains including Oswald Cobblepot with Danny Devito writing for Penguin’s Story Arc.
@SCOOTTY_04
@SCOOTTY_04 2 года назад
@@renatocosta8315 I heard it will be like a scar face movie which is awesome we get to see the rise of penguin
@dante666jt
@dante666jt 2 года назад
*penguin 🐧
@Lonewolf_Gaming2014
@Lonewolf_Gaming2014 2 года назад
I love all the Batman it’s absolutely to actually pick a favorite out all of them
@IAmImprintJones
@IAmImprintJones 2 года назад
Another great video and Rogue Son looks AMAZING!!
@sladetuner8661
@sladetuner8661 2 года назад
i just read the first issue this afternoon and i liked it too #ImageComics
@dtay8913
@dtay8913 2 года назад
Can't wait to see this movie
@anubusx
@anubusx 2 года назад
Same. Seeing it on Saturday.
@ninjireal
@ninjireal 2 года назад
It’s on hbo max now
@quentinfogger5755
@quentinfogger5755 2 года назад
What do you think is the best thing about the Penguin in the comics and which one of his abilities do you think is the best?
@josephlowry4320
@josephlowry4320 2 года назад
His ability to be an excellent mob boss and knowing how to kick arse with judo.
@CharlieEmmerson1212
@CharlieEmmerson1212 2 года назад
I'm just great at many thing arnt I
@yoshexbruhh9351
@yoshexbruhh9351 2 года назад
I just watched The Batman, it’s really good. Music is a highlight.
@greyworld6242
@greyworld6242 2 года назад
Can’t believe this guy is getting his own series because of the new movie! Also damn this dude had a messed up upbringing. At least his mom was ok enough. 10:19 holy shit I did NOT know that! Hmm interesting information.
@ajeshnilata1540
@ajeshnilata1540 2 года назад
You know what I'm thinking We should get a Batman series with Robert Patterson in HBO Max I want to see Batman fight other villains like scarecrow, Mad Hatter, Mr. freeze, poison ivy, Killer Croc, Black mask Batman got cool villains We never see these guys that often In movies
@greyworld6242
@greyworld6242 2 года назад
@@ajeshnilata1540 yep.
@shadowfirekarp
@shadowfirekarp 2 года назад
The Penguin keeps getting away with it because he has a friend who is an expert in bird law.
@b3ans4eva
@b3ans4eva 2 года назад
Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law.
@shadowfirekarp
@shadowfirekarp 2 года назад
@@b3ans4eva Charlie Kelly
@dylanogg347
@dylanogg347 2 года назад
Damn, he gave Bats the slip in Round 1? Way to go Oswald!
@quentinfogger5755
@quentinfogger5755 2 года назад
Can you do history of Alfred Pennyworth, Batwing, Flame Bird, Batwoman, Azrael, Signal(Duke Thomas), Bluebird, Stephanie Brown and Carrie Kelly?
@artfire28
@artfire28 2 года назад
I did not know how tragic and depressing his origin story is. Now I feel sorry for this fiction character and kudos to the writer. This proves that no matter what, you can not get away from past experience and its up to the being to let it define you or change for the better.
@vincentfranklin17
@vincentfranklin17 Год назад
I've always liked the Penguin. He's one of my favorite Batman foes!
@snapclub8751
@snapclub8751 2 года назад
The Penguin is my second favorite Batman villain. Right below the Joker.
@brucelau2023
@brucelau2023 2 года назад
Legit tho from what I’ve heard , Colin Farrell knocks it out of the park as Penguin , but since we’re getting Mr Freeze next in the Reeves trilogy , god I really hope we get a good Mr Freeze since it’s been more than 20 years since he was in a live action Batman movie and god knows that was an absolute atrocity
@John-Doe-Yo
@John-Doe-Yo 2 года назад
I didn’t know they were planning a trilogy
@edrama6623
@edrama6623 2 года назад
Yes he did Collin Ferrell did a great job as Penguin his character is so good in this movie.
@ttube111
@ttube111 17 дней назад
Gotham Penguin is better
@mostafafarweez3161
@mostafafarweez3161 2 года назад
Great Video. Hope to see a video of the riddler like this 1, since he is the main villain in The Batman movie
@anubusx
@anubusx 2 года назад
Joygasm!!!
@quentinfogger5755
@quentinfogger5755 2 года назад
Who do you think did the childhood of the Penguin a living nightmare between his father, brothers and the school bullies? Who do you think he enjoyed getting revenge on?
@jayzedd_
@jayzedd_ 2 года назад
Danny Devito will never be topped, but Farrell is a close second.
@dakentaijutsu2010
@dakentaijutsu2010 2 года назад
I respectfully disagree about Batman year one, while it is a great graphic novel to read, but Penguin was not in Batman year one, just to point out!
@RobandRosieRR
@RobandRosieRR 2 года назад
So many of Batman’s Rogue’s Gallery were either picked on as a child or came from some sort of broken home.
@_thethinker5557
@_thethinker5557 2 года назад
Yeah now that I think about it 😅but, they live in Gotham and it's not the best place to live and his villains are really awesome
@dante666jt
@dante666jt 2 года назад
Someone like the bat himself
@ayrtonpietrobelli6972
@ayrtonpietrobelli6972 2 года назад
Probably due to the fact that a lot of DC writer’s experience this themselves and wanna emphasise how important a loving home is
@ianfinrir8724
@ianfinrir8724 2 года назад
They still made the choice to be criminals.
@imperiumgrim4717
@imperiumgrim4717 2 года назад
@@ianfinrir8724 true
@quentinfogger5755
@quentinfogger5755 2 года назад
Since you are doing history of the characters who are going to appear in the Matt Reeves Batman movie with Robert Pattinson as the Dark Knight, can you please do history of Alfred Pennyworth in your next video? Who do you think should be the Robin for this trilogy?
@vermatakasugi4659
@vermatakasugi4659 2 года назад
Robin lord taylor 's Penguin is the best penguin of all time.
@quentinfogger5755
@quentinfogger5755 2 года назад
What do you think Oswald Cobblepot would have been like if his father got him a Plastic surgeon to fix his big nose? Is he best at being a crime boss and getting ruffians to do his dirty work?
@lysanderthemagician6413
@lysanderthemagician6413 2 года назад
I think that could make him more insecure, since that would be like his father telling him he’s ugly. It would make him more bitter because he’d see how people might treat him better after getting a nose job, even if he’s still the same guy. I think the newer mob boss Penguin is best at hiring others for that since some versions of him play both sides (being a mob boss & informant for Batman/the cops). However the versions who aren’t afraid to get their hands dirty are also great in their own ways.
@theflash7688
@theflash7688 2 года назад
Been waiting on this
@exodia9817
@exodia9817 2 года назад
My favorite version of the Penguin is the version that quacks a lot.
@mikecrip
@mikecrip 2 года назад
Gotta love Gotham City. Even without Batman you could make series after series on the city alone.
@spiddyman0079
@spiddyman0079 2 года назад
Gotham
@johnlawful2272
@johnlawful2272 2 года назад
@@spiddyman0079 which sucked
@spiddyman0079
@spiddyman0079 2 года назад
@@johnlawful2272 i didnt watch it. I did see the joker parts on youtube
@ManuRios_Girl
@ManuRios_Girl 2 года назад
@@johnlawful2272 It’s not that bad
@ManuRios_Girl
@ManuRios_Girl 2 года назад
@@spiddyman0079 His name is Jerome Valeska and he’s only inspriration for the Joker
@quentinfogger5755
@quentinfogger5755 2 года назад
Can you do history of the villains of the Stargirl TV show like Mr_Bones, Dragon king, Brainwave and Icicle? When are you going to do history of the Flash Villains Mirror Master and Top since the second half of season 6 of the Flash has finished? Can you do history of the Blackhawks, Rocket Red Brigade, Blue_Beetle, Mr Terrific and Plastic Man along with the history of the Villains Dr Alchemy and Abracadabra?
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu 2 года назад
Mr Freeze is supposed to be the next villain in Matt Reeves franchise. Hopefully he'll really be Mr Freeze or become him at some point. Be really cool if Reeves has the guts to do THE MR FREEZE. Send the statement that his movies are indeed Batman movies. That they are indeed comic book movies and not tryna deny it.
@football8897
@football8897 2 года назад
I’d love to see a modern, grounded take on the character. However I feel like the more grounded version of him is Captain Cold. I’m sure it would be the most interesting iteration of a Batman rogue and I’d love to see it
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu 2 года назад
@@football8897 Mr Freeze comic book form might not fit but at the same time it probably could. Mr Freeze is a complex human character and anti villain. So him being in comic book form or eventually reaching comic book form could maybe still work in a grounded setting without taking away from the emotion, humanity, and grounded tone of this universe.
@football8897
@football8897 2 года назад
@@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu he’s a really interesting character with a lot of depth. It’s a shame his only live action iteration was the 90’s movie
@orinoco500
@orinoco500 2 года назад
Pinguin does look good, like a mob boss.
@JohnDoe97637
@JohnDoe97637 2 года назад
Only a few days left.😭
@quentinfogger5755
@quentinfogger5755 2 года назад
When are you going to do history of Marvel's Sandman and Kurt Conners the Lizard since they made a live action comeback in Spider-Man No Way Home along with the Elementals who were mentioned in Spider-Man Far From Home?
@donjoel6754
@donjoel6754 2 года назад
The penguin has been my second favorite Batman villain only second to the Joker. Thanks to the Batman Arkham games series, media and comic books.
@jamesstewart9341
@jamesstewart9341 Год назад
The penguin is one of my most batman favorite villains
@LuciferMorningstar-zu1ud
@LuciferMorningstar-zu1ud 3 месяца назад
Finally saw the penguin teaser just now and omfg I cannot wait!!!
@quentinfogger5755
@quentinfogger5755 2 года назад
What do you think the Penguin would be like if he telepathically controlled birds or had the power to turn into any kind of bird?
@jodiiperez9591
@jodiiperez9591 2 года назад
Absolutely terrifying 🤣 the thought alone He would definitely rule Gotham if he could do this 🤣🧐
@davidvangerner7241
@davidvangerner7241 5 месяцев назад
How about him being able to control both birds and being able turning into any species of birds​@@jodiiperez9591
@AndreaBerenats
@AndreaBerenats 2 года назад
please do one of these for killer crock
@rowiepalacpac9914
@rowiepalacpac9914 Год назад
Penguin became one of my fave Batman villains in One Bad Day : The Penguin
@Bluesol302
@Bluesol302 2 года назад
Watching this makes me want to play the first Lego Batman game
@vinceofficial94
@vinceofficial94 2 года назад
Wakey, wakey Mr. Wayne..... aawww do yer need me to call yer butler? -The Penguin, Arkham City circa. 2011
@TheRMF1
@TheRMF1 2 года назад
Yes
@dr.lumpypants3530
@dr.lumpypants3530 2 года назад
Feel like this would’ve happened a long time ago
@owenitzura
@owenitzura 2 года назад
Robin Lord Taylor played the absolute best and most entertaining Penguin ever in "Gotham".
@GoldProduct9999
@GoldProduct9999 Год назад
I’d just Ike to point out, he didnt actually kill those kids in Gotham Central, Harvey just thought he did. It was actually some old lady
@alisonsmith4436
@alisonsmith4436 2 года назад
Hi love your videos so much information ℹ️
@user-bm8sd5gp4l
@user-bm8sd5gp4l 2 года назад
The Batman boutta be so good
@rotakurotaku6531
@rotakurotaku6531 2 года назад
I like the gotham series penguin he was amazing and portrayed the role perfectly in my opinion
@Dom_510
@Dom_510 2 года назад
I can’t wait to see the movie on Friday! Also can’t wait for his spin-off show. And why did you recommend year one? Penguin is not in that story.
@RacerC45
@RacerC45 2 года назад
Do History Of MODOK and Hit Monkey episodes.
@tehjboney4249
@tehjboney4249 Год назад
Danny Devito will always be my Penguin and of course his Batman The Animated Series version was awesome as well.
@darthshadow3008
@darthshadow3008 2 года назад
Cool
@UnseenHitman-1932
@UnseenHitman-1932 2 года назад
A sith lord, here ?
@cyberneticthezero
@cyberneticthezero 2 года назад
Great video bro ! 🐧
@asmitoshshinde
@asmitoshshinde 2 года назад
been waiting for this vid.
@homesteadspirit9209
@homesteadspirit9209 Год назад
I grew up with BATMAN and Batman Returns. I didn't know the original story for any of the villains unless they where explained in BTAS. So I assumed Penguins origin was that of the movie. I loved that version of the penguin but as an adult and a comic book reader I have grown to love the original version. Danny Daveto is my favorite actor to play the part but I love the sophisticated mob boss
@JYDY-if5rf
@JYDY-if5rf 2 года назад
Danny Devito played penguin in Batman returns
@ALJ_1981
@ALJ_1981 2 года назад
WHAT!!!???!!! I had no idea that was Collin Farrell. Great job guys.
@marvelboi3416
@marvelboi3416 2 года назад
The best Oswald Cobblepot aka The Penguin in my opinion is the one from the hit TV show "Gotham"!
@johnnyboy-ws3we
@johnnyboy-ws3we Год назад
I enjoyed seeing the penguins all the time in batman series all the time he was a awesome i enjoyed seeing him in the batman movie and i really can't wait for the spin off series to i hope the graphics can be similar to scarface movie
@jruedas81
@jruedas81 2 года назад
So glad the Penguin is getting his own spin off series!
@daleatsoverton9542
@daleatsoverton9542 2 года назад
you need to start covering Manga / Anime regularly bro ! your one of my favorite channels & im browsing it at least once a day but it’d be so fuckn clutch if y’all turned into a one stop shop for all my comic book / manga needs brody 💯💚☘️🍀
@webgeek919
@webgeek919 2 года назад
YES!!! I knew you were going to make one about Penguin
@jesusjimenezhernandez7163
@jesusjimenezhernandez7163 2 года назад
@VariantComics Do Wonder Woman villainess DC Circe origin video and history of Circe video.
@Imthesoulofthes
@Imthesoulofthes 2 года назад
Y’know, If Oswald just got Nose surgery at Birth he wouldn’t be doing so Bad...
@MackEastwood23
@MackEastwood23 6 месяцев назад
I love Nolan North’s version of the Penguin his cockney accent made the character
@quentinfogger5755
@quentinfogger5755 2 года назад
Is Colin Farrel going to be as good as or better than Danny Devito as the Penguin? Which movie and show do you think did a great job in portraying him?
@nisarga9420
@nisarga9420 2 года назад
Robin Lord Taylor did an exceptional Penguin in Gotham.
@ultimatewolf1878
@ultimatewolf1878 2 года назад
@@nisarga9420 indeed My favourite penguin
@chikowashere
@chikowashere 2 года назад
I'm still waiting on Joe Pesci to be cast as Penguin.
@dakentaijutsu2010
@dakentaijutsu2010 2 года назад
Too old!
@imperiumgrim4717
@imperiumgrim4717 2 года назад
To old bruh
@chikowashere
@chikowashere 2 года назад
@@imperiumgrim4717 That's why I said I'm still waiting. I've been wanting him to be mob boss Cobblepot since he started doing gangster movies. And now it's too late, unless they do Batman Beyond with an older Batman.
@RickyD1984
@RickyD1984 2 года назад
Do the batmobiles of movies and TV and comics
@aaronbood1999
@aaronbood1999 2 года назад
Is penguin in batman year one, strange choice for a reading recommendation
@S4MYN.I.G.G.A.Z
@S4MYN.I.G.G.A.Z 2 года назад
Been waiting on this one
@RG-zt1dp
@RG-zt1dp Год назад
In the Gotham Central comic Penguin didn't kill or have the high school team killed, it is however later revealed who actually had the kids killed, if you read the comic you'll find out who it was.
@bashidas9705
@bashidas9705 2 года назад
I love Batman's all villens
@Abell_lledA
@Abell_lledA 2 года назад
One doesn’t experience self transcendence, the illusion of self only dissipates- 🎈
@BigBWolf90
@BigBWolf90 2 года назад
So Oswald's father came from a socially high level family.... "I suppose it's true what they say; society is to blame. High society" -the Penguin Batman the Animated Series Ep. 47 "Birds of a Feather."
@jackkelly9048
@jackkelly9048 2 года назад
Dang I'd love to have that shirt that Arris is rocking here Not like that exact shirt but just one of it ya know
@darthshadow3008
@darthshadow3008 2 года назад
Nice
@JavierMartinez-oj3rg
@JavierMartinez-oj3rg 9 месяцев назад
If you heard of the gentleman pirate, it was just a rich guy who wanted to be a pirate because his life became hard after losing his family but he was an unsuccessful. Pirate look him up steed bonnet.
@brandonscott5544
@brandonscott5544 2 года назад
The penguin one Batman enemy 🐧
@trevionmoreno4214
@trevionmoreno4214 2 года назад
I Lowkey hope they show this origin where he gets revenge on his bully in the Penguin series on HBOmax 🔥
@_thethinker5557
@_thethinker5557 2 года назад
About time 😄❤
@dr.lumpypants3530
@dr.lumpypants3530 2 года назад
Putting the wives tales of catching pneumonia with a wet head in the book. Most days in the winter I’d take a shower and then have to go to the bus stop. My hair was frozen every single day. I never caught pneumonia.
@ReiCaixa
@ReiCaixa 11 месяцев назад
As someone who likes comic stuff but never got too deep into Batman's or even DC stories. I have barely any idea of who Penguin is. But if you're someone on a Comic YT channel comment section, I can understand why'd you believe that is the case.
@nolanhewitt2563
@nolanhewitt2563 Год назад
The penguin is in production
@mrmysterious8124
@mrmysterious8124 2 года назад
Can you look at the Origins and History of The Brain from Teen Titans\Doom Patrol🧠🤖
@dblshotz75
@dblshotz75 2 года назад
Gru from Dispicable Me always reminds me of Penguin
@jackieanderson9408
@jackieanderson9408 2 года назад
Sweet 👍
@901Marz
@901Marz 2 года назад
I watched the whole movie without realizing that was Colin Farrell.
@blkpanther11
@blkpanther11 2 года назад
Arris Did Everybody But Alfred Pennyworth. I've Been Begging Him To Do His Story For Years .
@E_man2002
@E_man2002 2 года назад
Damn, all batman villian origins are always so dark XD
@ajeshnilata1540
@ajeshnilata1540 2 года назад
I feel bad for Penguins childhood I think Danny DeVito is the iconic penguin for me
@jalenikezeue4114
@jalenikezeue4114 Год назад
In my opinion Oswald Cobblepot Is The Best Mob Boss in the DC universe And This version Of Him is Way better than the One From Batman Returns The 2021 Penguin is Awesome a true Tribute to the Comics
@jointhearumanati8574
@jointhearumanati8574 2 месяца назад
I missed when he had lobster claw syndrome it was so cool for his character
@That80sGuy1972
@That80sGuy1972 2 года назад
So... a bad guy comes from a childhood of abuse and bullying? Shocking. If that was all it was, he'd also be redeemable. Penguin, for some reason, just isn't redeemable... as if he's a comic book iconic bad guy or something.
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