History of WWI Primer 036: French Gras 74 and 14 Documentary

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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its WWI Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
Cartridge: 11mm Gras and 8mm Lebel
Capacity: 0 rnds
Length: 51.4"
weight: 9.3 lbs
Additional reading:
Les Fusils Francais a Verrou
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10 окт 2016

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@fuzzydunlop7928 6 лет назад

I like how they eliminated the need for a magazine cut-off by eliminating the magazine altogether.

@druisteen 5 лет назад

It's a 1866 rifle

@eliast2351 Год назад

Ingenious planning and meticulous execution.

@Ugly_German_Truths 9 месяцев назад

How do you eliminate what you never previously had? The Chassepot was single shot too. As were pretty much all contemporary main army rifles. It's roughly the Civil War Era after all and repeaters were exotic even where they were readily available. magazines for that sort of rifle would not appear before 10-20 years later, the Mauser 1871 Othais mentioned in this video did not get a tubular magazine until 1884.

@Kasperl88 7 лет назад

The only thing that would make the WAR WERE DECLARED sequence better would be sound effects done by mouth.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

rofl

@MaxwellAerialPhotography 6 лет назад

Don't give them ideas.

@lafeelabriel 7 лет назад

It's almost like the mic wasn't working properly for this one sadly.

@wierdalien1 7 лет назад

he also sounds like he slowly dying from a cold.

@BikerJim74 7 лет назад

Yeah I was thinking he had a cold.

@maewinchester2030 7 лет назад

He did, all of us caught.

@imbeauski8872 7 лет назад

R.I.P.

@wierdalien1 7 лет назад

thats both terrible and funny

@Lomi311 2 года назад

1870’s to the 1940’s is a pretty impressive service life. Especially given the huge leaps in technology over that time.

@apmoy70 7 лет назад

In 1941 in the Battle of Crete, on 3/23 Kampfsgruppe Schätte while advancing towards the Cretan town of Kastelli, encountered obstinate and mass resistance and received dense fire from well dug positions manned by elements of a Greek infantry regiment and armed civilians. Most of them were armed with the Gras Modèle 1866/74 11mm rifle, and each fighter carried less than thirty rounds of ammo as they're unable to be resupplied by the British who had no stocks in such antique calibre. I think this must have been the last time the Gras saw action in a major conflict. The Gras carrying Greeks of the 1st Infantry Regiment held the area of Kastelli for a whole day. The taking of Kastelli by the Germans on 3/24 marks the removing of the last obstacle to unimpeded landing at Maleme airstrip for them.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Jesus

@apmoy70 7 лет назад

*Oops I made a typo, it's 5/23 & 5/24 the Battle of Crete started on 5/20/1941 and ended on 6/1/1941 with the evacuation of the last 4,000 allied troops by the RN

@druisteen 7 лет назад

gras are a generic name & you say bullshit greek were armed whive steyr Gras not 1866/74 who are french made

@jackmcgloin3709 6 лет назад

druisteen actually the gras was in the hands of the greeks and french how i don't know but there are many photos of greek soldiers using them

@druisteen 6 лет назад

greek were armed whive steyr made Gras not 1866/74 who are french made

@taofledermaus 7 лет назад

When Mae is shooting, I'd love to be able to see from the perspective of what she is shooting down range.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

but then the camera would get ded.

@thecanuckredcoat4142 7 лет назад

you'd just see a flat piece of paper before it gets bulleted (so much grammar!).

@zoesdada8923 5 лет назад

Yes.

@presidentlouis-napoleonbon8889 3 года назад

@@thecanuckredcoat4142 Shakespeare grammar! :)

@-oiiio-3993 2 года назад

While tied to a post and smoking your last cigarette?

@mo45327 7 лет назад

Awesome stuff guys! 20 000 M14 Gras rifles were given by the French in July 1916 to the Serbian army. They were used on the Salonika front until the end of the war by artillery crews, logistics service troops, guards and other rear line troops. The front line guys got the Berthiers.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

oh nice. Good to know.

@rainbow2710 7 лет назад

The smile on Mae's face when she's shooting is priceless!!!

@ludditeneaderthal 7 лет назад

what could be a better addition to a collection than a chassepot fired trench mortar? yet another excellent offering, you rock! your choices of "vintage regional pop" as the shooting segment backing tracks is almost as interesting as the arms themselves!

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Glad to hear we're hitting the right notes.

@claudiov5554 5 лет назад

Chile bought 21.000 gras rifles during the war of the pacific (1879 -1884) Its a great rifle

@eduardowong3436 4 месяца назад

Si un amigo mio tiene uno lo usa para cazar conejos con cal 20 de escopeta no tengo idea de su valor

@aries_9130 7 лет назад

Don't worry about the sound quality. The most important thing is that you guys are fine! Hope the cold got better by now :)

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Almost done! Travel did not help.

@DouglasRumbaugh 7 лет назад

I love how every time you mention the US Civil War, you use a different name. "Southern Secession", "Northern Aggression". I wonder what the next one will be!

@SigurdKristvik 7 лет назад

Freedom War maybe? Perhaps too vauge what about War for Southern Freedom & Independence? that should do it!

@DouglasRumbaugh 7 лет назад

How about "The Second American Revolutionary War"?

@daDuke42 7 лет назад

southern insurgency, second revolutionary war?

@mattmattigan5036 7 лет назад

The "American Revolution" also not a Revolution against England, it was a War for Independence. But don't let facts get in the way. Anything to make losing a war acceptable to the South folk.

@Thebluebridgetroll 7 лет назад

Rabh something tells me that Othais will pass that one over

@nebiyuesayas5600 Год назад

The Gras has a special place in my heart-it was a common sight in Ethiopia during both Italian invasions, and it was one of the most popular rifles, especially among non-regular army soldiers (although with a lot of the regular army being given French surplus, maybe a few made it there too). Also that bolt is beautiful.

@DerKurfuerst 7 лет назад

I'm sick and cold and wrapped into my blanket and new C&R is online. Hell yea!

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

What a coincidence, I did this one sick!

@SalveSandWonk 3 года назад

@@Candrsenal ah so it wasn't the mic

@1111Tactical 7 лет назад

"No Bang-O'" I also suffer from this after way too much Whiskey.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

dang

@logitimate 4 года назад

Followed by fouling?

@panzerabwerkanone 7 лет назад

I love Mae in slow motion recoil.

@spottyskunk1898 7 лет назад

The 1st time I heard about a Gras rifle wasn't in regards to WW1, but rather in regards to Haiti between the wars. Nice to get a little more depth on them.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Thanks!

@illiminatieoverlordgurglek140 7 лет назад

Man.. That is one elegant rifle.

@glengreen362 5 лет назад

As an additional item of curiosity, I used to own a Gras that had been converted to what I assumed was a shotgun. The barrel was a very large thin rimmed bore with no rifling which was very heavily pitted. The bolt's firing pin had been shortened and what looked like the end of a thick nail inserted in the bolt head which had been drilled out for the thicker pin. both the cartridge ejector screw and the bolt retaining screw were missing and the stock had been damaged and nailed together. I obviously never tried to fire the thing because I reckoned it would have been more dangerous for the firer that any target. Anyhow, thanks for the interesting history or the weapons.

@deviation1000 3 года назад

A lot of these rifles were sporterized and rechambered to take shotgun cartridges in the early 1900s. I have one such sporterized Gras in 16ga, which is still used to this day to hunt rabbits.

@LankyAssMofka Год назад

Love you Othias. The audio quality is sooooo much better now. I like to hit your primer playlist and just hit shuffle. I've heard them all before but it's nice to listen too at work, I like the stories.

@TiglathPileser3 7 лет назад

Yay! Othais and Mae and gang and toys survived Hurricane Matthew! Great video!

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Wooo

@thenightcat9528 4 года назад

I like how you sound... it has the old radio feel in the 1920s...

@theorganizer1273 4 года назад

The Night Cat I like anything related to the 1920s... I’m glad someone is appreciating the culture and aesthetics of that period...

@-oiiio-3993 2 года назад

@@theorganizer1273 That's the cat's pajamas.

@dobypilgrim6160 7 лет назад

Glad you folks are safe. These longer format videos are just great.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Good to hear!

@joewalker2152 7 лет назад

I really do appreciate every thing you do,please keep up the fantastic work. Best wishes from UK.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Thank you. I'm glad we managed this one on time.

@ductileiron98 7 лет назад

Some of the best firearm video's on Utube.! This cat here..He knows what time it is..

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

ADVENTURE TIME

@justgotohm4775 4 года назад

Just picked up a Gras, absolutely wonderful, well informed, highly educational video. I love the music while shooting, outstanding. Bravo!!

@BigWillyG1000 6 лет назад

Be cool to see a Greek Gras video. I imagine they saw more frontline combat use in WWI.

@DrBreezeAir 7 лет назад

The wait was unbearable. Worth it. New animations are fantastic!

@Angr1smurf1 7 лет назад

yay, glad you like them (guy who makes them)

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

THIS is your YT name?

@Solsys2007 7 лет назад

The muzzle end bit was new to me and very interesting. Unfortunately, a point was left untouched, and that was the trouble they had adapting Lebel barrels (no separate production line was set up for these conversions, they took off-the-shelf barrels) into this large receiver. For this you'll have to take off the handguard and take a look at the limit of the receiver.

@Karabiner792 7 лет назад

You taught me how to disassemble my bolt. Thanks!

@joewilson3575 7 лет назад

I just realised that there's a new c&rsenal episode on the same day that I have an extra hour of school, every second Tuesday is a great day!!

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

oh nice.

@WhattAreYouSaying Месяц назад

You guys are awesome! Very good video. I just bought a Gras 1866/1874/80 Gendarmerie Carbine. It's a very nice rifle, has all matching numbers and is in great condition. It's life started as an 1866 Chassepot, which is quite cool. The barrel date is S.1886 N, meaning it's a very late Chassepot to Gras conversion.

@amateurshooter927 7 лет назад

Went up to the 5 dollar patron level tonight, and now I have to thank you for giving me something to do tonight lol, eat pizza and catch up on ask your archived journal entries, thanks guys! Keep up the good work, this channel is still one of my favorite on RU-vid.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Seriously, thanks for the support. It was extremely helpful this month with the evac.

@mcfontaine 7 лет назад

Well done getting the episode done between illness & the storm.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

I'm surprised we made it on time.

@kenm8376 2 года назад

I really enjoyed this video. At a gun show last weekend I picked up one without any of the modifications. It's in excellent condition including the bluing that has taken on a beautiful patina. I look forward to getting the necessary equipment to load for it. I'm a big fan of large slow moving bullets and this 11x59r round is going to be fun. On that note, May sure looks like she's getting a huge endorphin boost every time she squeezes the trigger. Love that little smile that creases her face with every round fired. Don't ever let her go.

@GeigerCounterVirtualMuseum 9 месяцев назад

I just picked up an unmodified as well. All matching including cleaning rod. Wonder how some were missed during conversion process. Mine has a perfect bore and looks unfired. Wonder how rare the unmodified ones are.

@richardthorpe8889 3 года назад

I'll admit I'm not a historian. I am up in Quebec and these rifles also had a an other life in the colonies. This province has always had a strong connection to France andI've seen these that were converted to twelve guage which was probably the last way to keep this rifle useful. Awesome video.

@landotomunn9048 7 лет назад

Thanks for talking about French guns!! The French army is all the time laughted at by everybody so thanks presenting our weapons! By the way nice french pronounciation ;) Thanks for your amazing job! From a french fan of your channel ^^

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Glad to hear you are enjoying it!

@theorganizer1273 4 года назад

25:29 "The true meaning of suffering for this man-sized target..." Just as Mae decided to check out the silhouette, the singer in the background music was suffering...

@7.62x38mmR 3 года назад

I think it was actually a laugh, but the lyrics of this song are weird as fuck so i wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't

@the_major 7 лет назад

And the lunch break is saved by C&Rsenal!

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

but what did you eat?

@Surv1ve_Thrive 7 лет назад

Fantastic, as ever. Thank you! :)

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Woo

@Surv1ve_Thrive 7 лет назад

Hope you are enjoying making the content. Great factual "movies"... you are kings and queens of the silver screen! We are enjoying taking it in.

@AfrikaKorp42 7 лет назад

Ah the Yataghan and the Rosalie two excellent late 19th century bayonets.

@McNubbys 7 лет назад

Love the depth you do on the on the weapons of WWI, keep it up...oh and thanks for using the war were declared film, it is halirious lolXD

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

We'll work one up for each country and cycle the last frames.

@McNubbys 7 лет назад

C&Rsenal I found some possible info for the Krag working in a role like this with the US in 10th and 19th Engineers(railway)it wasn't to deep but, hope it was accurate that would be cool to see :D

@drakinclaq 7 лет назад

thanks for the great video!

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Thanks for watching!

@terryyocumiii9645 3 года назад

I haven't seen many gras in my time, but I love one

@Sds0071 7 лет назад

What's up with the audio?

@Supermunch2000 7 лет назад

Othais is speaking into a classic Great War tin can for that authentic sounding narration.

@maewinchester2030 7 лет назад

He also had a cold.

@BikerJim74 7 лет назад

He explains at the end of the video

@kevinsullivan3448 7 лет назад

It's only better than Mime if you are not French...

@anchorbait6662 6 лет назад

It's not just that he has a cold. My speakers are actually rattling. Something must have been out of sorts.

@andrewphillips8341 7 лет назад

Another interesting one. Thanks

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Glad you liked it

@johannesvanhoek9080 7 лет назад

I just acquired a Gras 1874/m14 with a barrel mark N , a sweet rifle with a perfect rifling shoots excellent and I definitely would have taken it to war ,,, but I respect everyone else's opinion ,,,,,, GREAT EPISODE MY FRIENDS ,,,KEEP IT UP ! 👍👍👍👍👍

@amandahammond2691 7 лет назад

Mae I adore your shirt

@armadagunshow 2 года назад

I love these, my country was very cool designing guns 👍

@donaldstraitiff7827 7 лет назад

I honestly figured there would be a lot more delay with the hurricane rolling through. You guys really take schedules seriously.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

We're trying to!

@Kilroy95 7 лет назад

Hope your cold gets better Othias and hopefully you guys didn't receive much damage from Matthew!

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

We're fine!

@dandydasyt4766 3 месяца назад

This is it. This is where my obsession to old bolt action rifles began

@eVVigilance 7 лет назад

Yes! Finally! Othais, excellent overall. a few things to pick at: Chassepot cartridges aren't combustible, or totally so. The silk wrap is supposed to act almost as a bag to keep fouling together, and the shape of the bolt head ensures 99% of what is left is blown out the muzzle. The modern shortcut is to coat the paper case in flame retardant, and believe me it works. Nothing left inside. Untreated cases will leave chunks and primers behind. I haven't tried silk yet. The updated reciever shape of the Gras actually started with the Chassepot. My January 1872 accepted Chassepot has a "Gras style" receiver, while my 1869 mfg 1866-74 has the early profile. The difference is a squarer tang and added shoulders to increase stock contact. Your extraction issues with the 11x59 are due to ammunition. I am betting you used brass from .348 Win, which is undersized at the rim. All in all though, excellent. I would be interested in hearing what you used for powder. I find 1.5f Swiss to deliver much better results than other powders.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Nice, thanks for filling in the gaps. If you get a second you should spell it all out in a video!

@johannesvanhoek9080 7 лет назад

You both never cease to satisfy with these fine informative videos , I thank you both for all of your hard work , as a side note I don't really agree with your assessment at the end of the video concerning the rifles but that's just my opinion , 😎

@peraire 5 лет назад

muy didáctico. son unos artistas

@zoesdada8923 5 лет назад

One beautiful rifle

@BenBomb5 7 лет назад

I love how you are trying to show us every single gun (even ones barely used) before the SMLE aka "Smelly"

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Try finding a pure MkIII. Not a MkIII*, a MkIII period, no other crap added on or taken off. It's brutal.

@BenBomb5 7 лет назад

I might have seen one of those at a gun store in Dallas, it had the volley sights.

@u-wot-n8 7 лет назад

Gonna be honest, I prefer the older style of animation for these simpler rifles. It was able to show separate parts more discretely. Now, for the Lewis Gun, the 3D was fantastic. I just dont think it fits for the handguns and bolt actions. Keep up the great work!

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

There were so many features we were not showing. The 3D will improve as we get more experience.

@mrzoperxplex 7 лет назад

I hope you are recovering soon, you are providing yeoman service.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

So far so good, travel kinda dragged it out.

@lefr33man 7 лет назад

I have a M/14, I really like it, although I don't really trust the locking. I feed it with pretty cold loads.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Good call.

@lomeranger 5 лет назад

Would you tell me what the purpose of the J hook on the guard of the bayonet. Also, how many shots before you had to clean since you were using black powder?

@Tula1940_LB 7 лет назад

This looks very similar to a Mosin Nagant as far as the bolt goes.

@pricklydingus8604 7 лет назад

Time for another chill nunfancy-length gun-nerd video. With pizza. :D

@larkin54 7 лет назад

yeah but with less crazy then nutnfancy

@SlavicCelery 7 лет назад

Less fanny packs as well.

@p38pilotdk01 7 лет назад

Big difference is there is some almost engineer worthy details with histoy

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Nun Fancy?

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Should I get a fanny pack?

@bohemondricard9091 7 лет назад

Funnily the sound is so bad, at first I thought they were trying to emulate the recording quality of the time of WWI lol Still great vid as always

@andrewstoll4548 6 лет назад

The bull barrel and target sights was probably used for be believe it or not target competition shooting. Who could imagine that???

@maximilianvonspee9329 7 лет назад

Will there eventually be an MP-18 episode? That's something I'd love to see

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

as soon as we can borrow one.

@maximilianvonspee9329 7 лет назад

C&Rsenal looking forward to it!

@theorganizer1273 4 года назад

The what now?

@Treblaine 3 года назад

They went to all the effort of converting this to 8mm so they wouldn't have to keep making 11×59mmR ammunition then they produced loads of 11×59mmR ammunition for "balloon busting" role. They used 11x59mm so much that they made an 11mm machine gun. The 11mm ammunition was also produced (in blank variants) for various mortars and grenade launchers. Though I suppose that's quite a different supply chain from "you're a soldier, so you get standard infantry soldier ammunition which is this 8mm rifle ammunition" while the 11mm for anti-aircraft and artillery is a different supply chain.

@MrLolx2u 7 лет назад

I din't even knew the Gras served in WWI and frankly, that's amazing for the French side to be able to pull out a rifle that's used almost 50 years before and still stuck it into service. That's frankly amazing.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

I agree, honestly fascinating.

@canicheenrage 7 лет назад

Well, you can look even further than that, as there was at least one occurence in ww1 where they literaly used rocks.

@MrLolx2u 7 лет назад

canicheenrage Rocks is nothing. When war time comes, even a wooden plank can clobber someone to death and I'm not amazed that rocks can kill people. Heck that even happened in Iraqi Freedom but for a firearm? That's a whole lot of different story, especially one that fires black powder only to have it been "converted" to fire smokeless cartridges. Due to the look of the Gras, it never even needed a huge bolt rearrangement but just stuck a new barrel and do slight bore arrangement and it's set and frankly, that's amazing for a gun so solid.

@canicheenrage 7 лет назад

An entire infantry company, out of ammunition, managing to repel an enemy attack supported by artillery by throwing rocks, "nothing". You seem to have pretty high standards.

@MrLolx2u 7 лет назад

canicheenrage What is surprising about rocks? I have read about an entire battalion of troops being surrounded in Gallipoli and having ran out of water, food, medical supplies and even ammo, took everything they had from rocks, planks, rifle butts, knives and some even went in with fists and fought the Germans and they totally got destroyed so fighting with rocks in WWI is pretty common as you would have thought. In fact it happened in the Asonzo often enough when the Italians ran out of ammo. However, that's not the point. We're not talking about taking a knife to a gunfight. What we're talking how they could pull a gun that's not used for 50 over years and still stuck it into service, nothing to do with what they fought with in the field. If you want to talk about rock slinging on the battlefield, go to Indy's channel. This is the wrong place for you.

@JosipRadnik1 7 лет назад

just a thought: all war parties used armour plates which they installed at observation posts that could be reached by small arms fire. As far as I know, german snipers used large calibre hunting guns to hit enemy observers crouching behind those plates. Maybe the french were looking for some weapon to do the same work. I don't know how strong the locking system is, but the single shot configuration wouldn't be much of an issue for that kind of task and the stock seems to be solid enough. one would probably just need a heavier barrel and - well - sights. what do you think?

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

No, the breech is too weak for regular 8mm let alone anything hot loaded.

@trauko1388 3 года назад

Found information on the number of rifles bought by Chile during the 1879 War of the Pacific and their price, it may be of interest: Comblain II 18.206 rifles at £ 3,51 each Gras 22.808 rifles at £ 2,48 each Beaumont 9.964 rifles at £ 1,72 each Kropatschek 1.952 rifles at £ 3,40 each Winchester 4.868 carbines at £ 3.58 each These are war contraband prices of course.

@JonManProductions 7 лет назад

Eh, I've heard worse commentary audio quality... and also the audio suddenly goes back to normal during the Mae-Gun segment. Great video, as usual guys! :D

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Yeah, we got wonky trying to adjust for the cold.

@curium9622 3 года назад

What you doin here

@JenniferinIllinois 7 лет назад

Funny how 40 year old technology was considered long obsolete in 1914 while today, we are still using 60+ year old technology. :) Another great episode. I learn so much about all these old firearms. I also tend to want to spend a lot of money too though! Hehehe...

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

To be fair, there was a technological revolution in there

@JenniferinIllinois 7 лет назад

C&Rsenal Oh absolutely.

@jameljay2183 7 лет назад

will be interested by a duel Mauser 71 vs Gras

@colonelsanders104 5 лет назад

Le Gras c'est la vie ! :D

@Lomi311 2 года назад

A very Gras-tifying experience.

@wyattlacey1 7 лет назад

Great Vid! Thanks again for the history!. Sorry to be 'off topic' but what type of knife does May carry? Sorry, have always wondered.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

I think it's an elk horn razel

@sciprio1 7 лет назад

These guns were used by the conservative army during the Thousand days' war, in my country Colombia. Historic weapon.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

aww I completely spaced on that

@sciprio1 7 лет назад

Well it is understandable, not many people know about that conflict and the weapons used in it, information about it is scarce online even in spanish. Other guns used during that war, that I know of, were the Mannlicher and some winchester models, but the Gras was the most widely used firearm. Btw I love your channel, probably my favorite gun channel, so informative, keep up with the good work.

@druisteen 7 лет назад

Gras was usued around the world , even russian , Republican Spain & ethiopia

@-oiiio-3993 2 года назад

@@sciprio1 Which Mannlicher?

@bilboproudfoot 7 лет назад

Hope you feel better. Thanks for the shirt.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

How's it fit?

@bilboproudfoot 7 лет назад

Same as most shirts, on the upper part of my body. Holes for my arms and head.

@tmcgill2219 7 лет назад

Another fine video. I just obtained a beautiful example of a Gras Artillery Musketoon. Can you let us know where you obtained your 11mm ammunition? Thanks for the help.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Small batch of handloads we bought at a gun show I'm sorry to say.

@tinfoilhat3268 2 года назад

Rewatching this because big bore black powder cartridge goodness

@nicholasford4820 7 лет назад

Great video and interesting guns. I can't imagine picking up my entire collection and moving it on short notice, that must have been a pain! I do have one question because you've obviously researched this more than I have - my understanding was that the Tabatiere was produced after the Chassepot was adopted to make some use out of their stocks of muzzleloaders, and actually saw the majority of production around the Franco-Prussian War. To be fair, this comes from the internet and not books, is it wrong?

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

The book listed placed it as the precursor but it had no focus on the Tabatiere specifically. I can double check elsewhere.

@illiminatieoverlordgurglek140 7 лет назад

3:10 maybe I should get my dad one of those then ey? He's been having some problems with gasses exiting from he rear if you know what I mean..

@schutztruppe 5 лет назад

i'd still like to see how a volly sight is used. And please don't anyone say....just look down the top

@antoniofdez620 7 лет назад

Can you see if the bolt and the bolt handle are made from one piece or are different parts screwed or welded together?

@ethans7914 2 года назад

Just got given one from a family friend the earlier model shown in the video and i can get the bolt to open. Im not sure if somewhere the trigger got pulled while the bolt was closed, dry firing it or what but any tips idk what to do. Any suggestions ?

@Bird_Dog00 Год назад

I'd realy like to know what thought process resulted in adding a long-range sight for volley fire to a rifle intended for rear echelon guards...

@yeungmankiu5539 7 лет назад

I like the French background music

@chrisgoshey7388 7 лет назад

Is it just me or does it seem like the bolt on the Gras resembles/influenced the one on the Mosin-Nagant?

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

The Mosin has some French influence for sure.

@Capmikqc 7 лет назад

Well, the single shot Mas 14 does remind me alot of the Mosin Nagant with its overall look and action... Any lead on that?

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

There is some chance of influence but we have not dug deep yet.

@TwentythreePER 7 лет назад

Even though the Chassepot and Gras may not feel the best as far as the comb and wrist go I think they have one of the more handsome profiles of a lot of the single shot rifles of the time.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

True

@druisteen 7 лет назад

because at the origin that was a skirmisher carbine not a "musket "

@McDylanNuggets 6 лет назад

I'm surprised that the poor audio quality on this video isn't ever recognized her mentioned in the description or something. I was trying to figure out what's wrong.

@Seth-ek7ys 6 лет назад

I have same as this one with same company too but it is a bit smaller that yours, Any idea what is it ?

@TheBrewjo 7 лет назад

That 8 mm ammo defiantly had more of a kick to it from what I could infer while Mae was shooting....

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Definitely sharper

@isaiahjgomez1501 4 года назад

Is 8mm lebel that weak or is the bolt on this gun that strong? Able to handle smokeless powder with it only locking on the bolt itself sounds crazy. I would be scared to shoot if i didn’t know it’s history to understand it still worked

@trenchfighter8778 7 лет назад

Get well othais

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

I'm trying.

@piatpotatopeon8305 3 года назад

I want to see a magazine conversion for the rolling block.

@Bird_Dog00 2 года назад

I know, I'm answering to a 8 month old comment, but anyway.... I would like to see that too, because I realy can't see how it would work. There's just no way you can get a cartridge into that chamber any other way then by hand. The only thing I can think of would by a new design, using a striker instead of a hammer, rotating the whole breach action 180° and fitting some realy weird and awkward tube magazine in the butt stock feeding through a holowed-out grip, as well as some awkward back-and-sideways ejection port...