Hive Fleet KRAKEN & the Second Tyrannic War | Warhammer 40k Lore 

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Graia is a forgeworld now and is one of the playable subfactions for admech on the tabletop. They are known for their stubbornness, which with all these invasions they clearly need.

​​@@Seruvius 'mi' lord I know your toaster collection is vast and cumbersome, but why not move it to Mars?'

It's how they steal your jeans.

I like how this video is 1 hour old and op comment was made 5 days ago. Some chaos magic I smell here. This needs Inquisition to be investigated.

Slaanesh is pleased.

@@ReadyAimFire_ patreon magic ;)

Weird start to porn buuuuut ok

I feel like this kind of lore - around stuff like the Lamenters, is what we're losing since 7th ed. GW seem to want to keep it to the big picture narrative and not dig into the interesting stuff going on in the background

Per the 8th edition Blood Angels codex, the Lamenters were out of contact for many years, but not "lost", as they are said to have prevailed (8th edition Blood Angels codex). Plus as of the most recent lore, their numbers have been reinforced by Primaris marines. Also, during the time they were fighting Kraken, there was one ornery Lamenter dreadnaught that was with the Deathguard.

@@paulyg405 More or less I agree. Unfortunately, the more popular the setting becomes, the more they feel they have to be epic in scale

​@@PrimetimeDthe deathwatch, not deathguard. No lamenter would ever join nurgle, they are too pure.

​@@paulyg405and now 11 months later the lamenters got a book

“And this one will; I told you so”

It's technically correct but sounds wrong!

@@pajnolan4459 Right! xD

@@pajnolan4459the best kind of correct! 😂

@@HistoritorJimaldus oh absolutely!

FUCK WHY DID YOU BRING IT TO MY ATTENTION??!?!?

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I like Tyranids precisely for the sheer terror they evoke, so I tried more than once to run them as my second army (my first one being the Ultramarines), only giving up when I realized the logistical nightmare they are (to me at least), expecially when fielding and removing them from the field ^^". I was planning to replace them with Necrons (my second favorite secondary army), expecially after putting my hands on the old 3e Codex and its beautiful lore. However, when I read about how they changed the Necrons' lore, I gave up on them too. I get that probably they were filling the same niche of the Nids back in the days (cosmic horror looming on the galaxy), but today they look pretty much Khemri in space and with even more bickering among the dinasties, which is a shame to me. So, I'm left with the choice between an army that I love but which I can't handle well from a logistical point of view and another one far more manageable but for which I still have to find something really good in its lore.

Mine too! I started right around that time. I remember the articles about the Scythes of the Emperor and the Giant's Coffin.

Is that morale or moraaaaal?

Hive Fleet THIS BIG, I swear!

Unfortunately, given current GW naming conventions, it's more likely to be BIGFISHOLAX. More copywriteable.

@@ArbitorIanLeBiathan ;)

Oooh, I googled "big fish of myth" and first hit was 'Bahamut" which I think would be genuinely usable.

Isn't Bahamut and Behemoth the same reference?

patreon i think?

Time dilation of the Shadow in the warps manifestation!!

If you'd like to see these videos six days ago.... *opens time-travelling trenchcoat of dodgy patreon links*

dang Bri' 'ish and their weird English English. smh.

Ugh, I really dislike that personally. There was a great quote in one of the old books from Inquisitor Agmar: "The more I learn about these aliens, the more I come to understand what drives them, the more I hate them. I hate them for what they are and for what they may one day become. I hate them not because they hate us but because they are incapable of good, honest, human hatred."

Hive Fleets are a biomass. they are large and spore sized masses, like a wave...

They also use the collected psyche of their Genestealer cults as a beacon to navigate through the void

they don't use the warp, they travel slower than light speed. so your question is a good one, if the distances between galaxies are approx 2.5 million light years (between milky way and Andromeda as an example) they would need to consume their own biomass or go into stasis or something. And it also makes you wonder how they could have seen the Pharos beacon or the Astronomicon from those distances. There's a great old short story called 'Hive Fleet Horror' that digs into some of the tyranid questions. Now with all that nerding out of the way, the TLDR is that none of it makes any sense :P

Yeah, this is what I think. The original (as far as I remember) was as you say Tyrant. But of course, that was in the days before audiobooks and youtube, so nobody actually knew. And at some point the trend became 'tirranid', EVEN THOUGH they're led by, say, Hive Tyrants.

@@ArbitorIan hive TYRANT has nothing to do with tyranids, the same way you have hive guards, tyrant guards and tyranid primes, they are all named after their behavior within the swarm, and the old concept that the leaders (hive tyrants) act their will upon mindless swarms, like a tyrant imposing its will upon those below. This stems from the old lore vision of the tyranids, the same way necrons, that have not been fully fleshed out into the modern times. Back in the day, the spotlight only shinned on the imperium, space marines and their characters, orks, necrons, nids, they were all just cannon fodder to prop the imperium, pay no mind to those xenos.

@@ArbitorIan "EVEN THOUGH they're led by, say, Hive Tyrants" Henceforth those shall be known as Hive Tirrants, just to make it fit :)

Wouldn't surprise me. Skaven comes from Scavenger so the convention fits

@@ArbitorIan not having English as a first language I always said "tye-ranid" precisely because they are led by Hive Tyrants so I assumed the name Tyranid basically meant "small tyrant" or "related to a tyrant"

Poor elves have performance anxiety?

Ironic

it's almost like they´re the tragically dying race of the 40k

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You know nothing

@daveeol1987 Well formed argument.

@@jeffblye7913 bro you know nothing bro

@daveeol1987 That's better, but still doesn't quite make any kind of rational point pertinent to the pronunciation of Teer-an-ids.

@@jeffblye7913 do you correct everyone who say tomato the wrong way in such a condescending way aswell?

Yea, Kraken paint scheme is so lame...

See? *looks around the comments section* SEEE?

How on the big E' holy light is this correct? Even GW made a video to address the correct pronunciantion of multiple things (including tyranids).

​@@MagralhoPT what do some guys in 2023 know about the origional pronunciation..... thats right nothing

@@daveeol1987 what is your comment meant to say? Cant tell if its a tirade against what pronunciation, care to elaborate? I just use the lattest GW info as the most up to date and correct source of info, after all, they are the creators.

@@MagralhoPT are they the original creators?

Its not diatracting, its WRONG and infuriating.

@@MagralhoPT 👍

I've always pronounced it the same as Ian does, like "Tyrant". I can see doing it like "Tyranny" as an acceptable alternative, but I have no idea why people get so annoyed about it.

@@johnnybigbones4955 its fine that you have no idea why people are upset. Gw confirmed the correct pronunciation (and its not the initial one in this video) so, lets all just get along and do it right from now on

​@@MagralhoPT haha pronunciation nazi

I bet you aren't even the real swarmlord!

@@ArbitorIan ehe ofc Im not! Im just a dude...

@@ArbitorIan Looking forward for your covering of the 4th tyrannic war! (With proper addressing the faction)