HMMWV Delivered!! But wait, what's this BS?! :( 

Email Ryan Welsh at ryanwilliamwelsh@gmail.com. He is the Ritchie Brothers Director of legal affairs. He did me right. Dispute resolution lady blew me off, he didn’t.

That's amazing! How long did that take once you first called them out on their BS? Also more importantly, how long did it take after you started talking to Ryan?

Message me on Instagram @hmmwv1123 and I can lay it all out. It was complicated

Man that really sucks and I'm very sorry to hear all of that. I got really lucky with a lot of aspects with the vehicle even though they tried to burn me on more missing part than the inspector let on. Most likely I should be all good to go and on the road by the end of September

I started it for the first time around a week ago. Not only did it start right up after I got fuel to it, but it idies nicely and has practically ZERO blowby. Yes I got lucky for sure

Well after it was all said and done, I basically paid about 8k. If I could have taken things to court, I bet it would have been more like 5k. Problem I that I didn't have enough money in the bank to go to court and deal with however long that would have taken and also to collect

So I just traced the wires on that plug and it looks like there's some small wires that go to the fuel separator thing are filter or whatever it is behind the dash to the right and then I think there's just heavy wires that go over to the batteries

@@humveeadventures I sent you an email to your website email.

I don't think I have that set up yet. Email at the same name at Gmail

Fate3d and I are pretty well versed with these vehicles....although he does know more than me in many areas lol

@CritiqueThis Guns & More yes of course. The HMMWV community is definitely a VERY helpful and friendly community overall. There are a few pompous A-holes here and there that ride on a high-horse, but luckily there doesn't seem to be too many of those types😀😀😀

Thanks for all that information. I didn't mod anything. In the original pictures from GovPlanet they clearly show the hood wasn't ever attached

@@humveeadventures Some inspiration a possible goal to consider for your Hummer.... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-m0Btcpv50fQ.html&ab_channel=RogerH

@@humveeadventures Is that an alternator or a forklift motor lol :)

@@kylereese4822 hahahaha.....but really though, it's an 11,200 watt "generator".

@@kylereese4822 I've seen the whole electric hmmwv thing. These would need to be waterproof to 6 feet deep.....and I think there was something else as well, but I can't remember it now.

You're correct that I'm fairly new to the GovPlanet game....that's not being harsh at all, that's just an observational fact. I'll reply in the order of your statements: What you said applies if and ONLY if we are allowed to inspect the vehicles in person beforehand, OR they don't do the inspection at all, to where it buying something sight unseen. The fact that they do an inspection is literally the ONLY thing buyers can go off of (otherwise these vehicles would only get the bare minimum bids and I'd guess even lower than what they start at now). So to do a half-ass inspection and purposely not take pictures of certain things literally goes against any reasonable standard of an inspection. Now to be fair to GovPlanet, they do clearly state that these inspections are limited function tests and they aren't dismantling things to see exactly the type of shape they are in. Personally I think that's reasonable. Here's the thing though.....what if you were going to buy a house and the current owner hires an inspector to give a professional opinion on it. Little do you know the inspector is a friend of the owner. You get an inspection report and sure there are a few things that need addressing, and those things get taken care of and re-inspected before you buy it. 1 month into owning the home something happens and the whole foundation is messed up or there's been a plumbing leak in a shower that's easily been going on for years. In either case is abundant clear that the inspector either never inspected under the house at all, or if he did, he left that stuff out because of his relationship with the previous owner. Who do you honestly think is at fault here? 100% of the blame is on the inspector.....period, end of story. If it goes to court, there's zero chance that the fault won't be on the inspector.....I mean that's their job title. He had 1 job....just 1, that's it. So in my case the inspector clearly and purposely didn't take any pics on the transmission hanging down a bit. My transporter said he noticed it right away when walking up to the vehicle, but he doesn't know jack out these and didnt think anything of it, in part because he was going to winch it up onto his flatbed. GovPlanet sells well over 60 HMMWV's a week from 2 locations. Would any reasonable person believe an inspector who sees 20 to 30 vehicles from their location each week, that they didn't know a transmission hanging below the frame a lil bit was maybe something they might want to take a picture of? That in the steering linkage section that they only take 2 pictures and combined, barely show 25% of said linkage? Purposely not taking a pic of the connecting arm that's missing from the sway bar to the lower A arm....When I stands out like a green hat with an orange bill because everything under there is black and the sway bar bolt is silver? The first time I got under the vehicle my eyes went directly to it lol. Then there's the exhaust pieces at the top back of the engine that you can't see are missing because both pics taken were from an angle to where the engine had a black shadow on it and literally can't see the missing pieces. I can continue, but you get my drift

Yes you are totally correct that 10k for the condition it's in is absolutely a great price given what I knew to be missing from the pics provided. Yes you are correct in that another 10k in parts and I'm good to go. Here's the thing though....I'm going to have to spend an unexpected 4k to 5k on missing parts....the equivalent of a good used older Honda or Toyota in great running shape. It's the "unexpected" part that's the issue here. How many people have that kind of money to throw around....Extra. I barely do. I'm not a wealthy person at all.

@@humveeadventures I drive Uber and do DoorDash for extra upgrade money. I make very little but it’s been my dream to own one of these or a H1 since I was a kid.

It hasn't been my dream for near as long, but I've always lacked the money (until I finally moved out of CA 2 years ago at 45 years old) to create/build amazing things. Unfortunately the vast majority of my life has been wasted away, BUT all I can do is get it when I can and now I finally can.

They refunded the auction fee, but I should have taken him to court. If I had done that I would have gotten two to three times the auction fee. Either way though I still did really good on the purchase

Yeah....totally always get them flat bed delivered. As far as spending money on airfare to inspect.....nope they don't allow that. This is why the inspections need to be bullet proof, or just don't do them at all. I'm told many people to not back down to govplanet trying to get out of their inspection obligations.

@@humveeadventures It may be the Georgia location thing, the one over in Barstow/Yermo Annex off I-15 you can fax/send in a form and go to their lot to check out vehicles in person, easy enough to do when I used to live near there. Now I'm stuck out in the middle of nowhere so no easy access.

yeah at 12:40

Doesn't sound like you lost your butt too much at all. I'm guessing I'll be in it for 30k to 35k total. I'm totally good with that

Well except for missing more parts than the govplanet inspector let on, it's exactly what I was hoping/expecting it to be. It runs awesome and I'm getting close to start making more videos again soon. Work, weather and then moving this past February really screwed up my timeline of getting it all done in 4 months. It's cool though, I'm like 75% done and have been driving it for a few months now 😀😀😀

Overall I got really lucky, but I was banking on it because of its overall condition. I do agree with what you said and yeah I took a huge chance. It paid off though because once I got the parts and started it, it started right up and hardly any blowby at all. The whole vehicle is in amazing condition....it was just missing parts. More parts than they let on too, but I got things worked out with them ;)

@@humveeadventures awesome! Glad you got it up and going!! Good, most the time gov planet is pretty good if you work with them!

Sounds like you should check out my other videos ;-) also please definitely subscribe. I need to get to 1000 subscribers

You nailed it. Everything you said it true and once I replaced a bunch of missing parts, it's been running flawless ever since

From the beginning mine looked like it hadn't gotten a ton of use. It runs perfectly and I'm doing the final prep on the cab I built in order to paint it. I'm keeping everything original CARC camo

Many others have asked that decades ago. You're late to the ballgame

Oh did I say that? Well that was really stupid of me to say and I literally misspoke because yes you are correct, they are a generator not an alternator. There is a difference. Alternators can only put out ac voltage, whereas generators can put out DC or AC voltage

I just saw which video you had replied to. Yeah at that point when I first got the vehicle I did not know that they had generators in these vehicles. What's in these things is literally the same exact type of generator that you would buy 2 how are your house temporarily when the power goes out type of thing. The unit I have in my Humvee put out 11200 Watts which is crazy for inside of the vehicle oh, but then again HMMWV's are not regular vehicles

@@humveeadventures yeah we used to takes parts off them to fix other ones before long we had one stripped bare lol

So that is exactly what I had figured had happened to mine. It was in great condition, but missing a ton of parts. Hell, couldn't even be started. I have a video showing there's barely a notice amount of blowby once I got it running. I scored big time🥰🥰🥰🥰

I don’t know where you're getting your information from, but it's not fully correct. The thing you're closest on is the fuel milage. The factory military seats are definitely shit, but as you can see from my videos, I took care of that quite nicely. The money pit part.....not really. Yes, sure there is money that must be spent to make sure everything is in good working order, but that's all vehicles. Once that stuff is done, these vehicles are very robust.

I got answers for that too lol A highway is a main road that's wider and in better condition than regular streets, that connects towns and cities, but it has cross traffic and no median separating opposite direction lanes. I freeway is that as well, but has a divided highway and most importantly, ZERO cross traffic.

Oh you're totally correct. They gave me back the auction fee.....but that coved maybe half of what was missing

@@humveeadventures That Laws are different in the US compared to the UK, here you could have got your money bad. It seems US Laws are a little more harsh?

I don't recall ever saying the transmission was trashed. I could I possibly know that answer until everything was put back together and tested? It turns out that they had put in a new rear differential (maybe just because they wanted 1 with a cooler built in 🤷‍♂️). Whatever all transpired in all of that, they installed the wrong rear output bearing. Probably for the 10k shaft, which was smaller. When they when to put things back together, the shaft only went in about 1 inch and then it hit the bearing. I eventually got it all figured out and everything work perfectly now. Engine barely has any blowby at all.

As far as planning better goes.....yeah I did and I bid accordingly. I didn't cry wolf on anything. Everything I've ever stated is 100% fact.

So what were you saying about how could it be run and driven through the gears if it couldn't steer and didn't have a turbo pipe? I made this video like 3 months ago so you need to elaborate more on what you were getting at so I can answer your properly

I got money from them a while back. Although if I would have had enough money in the bank to get everything I needed for the Humvee then I wouldn't have settled for what I got from them, but I would have taken them to court and realistically got about three times the amount. This was kind of my first time buying from govplanet so live and learn

@@humveeadventures I'm glad they worked with you on it. Some of the issues it has like the sway bar link and the transmission support bracket would upset me too...they are so blatantly obvious not to show that. I know that parts missing on the engine falls under the header of could not start, engine missing parts, which could be everything almost. For an ECV, though, it looks mostly complete and in really good shape. I would say you did pretty well depending on price. I just won a non running M1152 hard top today. I hope mine has less surprises since it is from the Albany, GA area too. I you still need a transmission control box, let me know, I might have a couple of friends who may have one available.

Oh yes it was definitely missing as well. I've learned a few things to spot if I ever buy another 1. With the smart box, if you see pics that show the wire harness unplugged in the upper driver's side hood area, that means the box is missing.

So from the sound of things, you aren't familiar with how auctions work. The simplest/quickest way to explain the fuckery is that I knew that there were missing parts from the pics GovPlanet took. That was all good and I knew what to expect when/if I won the auction. The issue is that they purposely took pics at angles to where I couldn't see other missing parts. There's zero chance that was an accident, and it has since been resolved with GovPlanet. If you look at the video I've made since this 1 you'll see that things have been working out great and I made a great choice with the vehicle I picked out

@@humveeadventures First I am glad you are happy with it. I spent 34 years between the Active Duty Army and National Guard, 24 of them in motor maintenance. Once I saw the tall exhaust, I knew where your truck had been. Only the USMC uses those. So there is a good chance it has seen a few salt water baths in its time. There are tell tale signs to any HUMVEE, even in GOV Planet Auctions. Some are easy to see some aren't. Certain models belong to certain units, and that can give you an idea of where it may have been.

@@kevinstorm2167 although it was missing more parts than they let on, otherwise it's in amazing condition. That much I could tell from the pics, and then confirmed once I took delivery of it. I'm extremely happy with what I got and I'm about 75% done with what all I'm trying to accomplish with it

At the end of June of 21, the cheapest I could find from Albany Georgia to Boise Idaho was $2,700. One of the things that I found that was utter bullshit was that when you go on to these websites that supposedly have shippers bid against each other to get your business, that they can all see each other's bids LOL. In the normal world that does not happen. I've been doing Home Remodeling and Repair since 2005 and I never get to see what somebody else bids when I'm working up my bid on the job

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So do I!! 🥳🤣

I would love to know how your claim works out.

Oh trust me.....I'll be VERY vocal about it even if it goes good. My whole thing is about being fully honest about everything and let the chips fall where they may.

Yeah after well over an hour of searching late last night I finally figured it out.....yes transmission control box. Apparently it has to match the particular transmission. Since these transmissions get installed with all different types of engines, it would need a module that's set up for these particular engines since the shift points would be different than say a gasoline engine. I'm no pro, but that's my initial guess

@@humveeadventures You can find used transmission module computers and boxes for the 4L80e on ebay and such. They average around $500 or used to. I had a couple that worked with the standard 6.5L. I do not know if the 6.5L turbo has a different set up for the shift points, but I suspect the turbos are different.

I wound up getting the box the module mounts in AND the module for only like 125 to 150 because the guy had no way of testing the unit to see if it worked. It does work and the shifting points seem just fine to me. So yeah I got a super score!

@@humveeadventures I have a meme I keep posted on my computer concerning owning old military humvees...What's it like to own a humvee?...Ever had an orgasm and a migraine at the same time!

Thank you but I've already got it up and running a long time ago. Although I'm having issues with the transmission and I'm pretty sure it's not the trans itself, but the TCM

The end of June in 2021 it cost $2,700 to get it shipped from Albany Georgia to Boise Idaho. That was the best deal I could find, but I also found that the bidding system that companies use is whack. I do Home Remodeling and I don't get to see what other people are bidding at for a job unless I can talk the homeowner into telling me LOL. Well with this shipping stuff they all get to see what each other bids so all they have to do is just go like $100 less than the other guy and they are the cheapest, instead of just saying a legit price

Interesting.....I'd like to hear more about your knowledge of what all is going on over there. As of this morning, I came to a decent enough conclusion to my claim with the claims department. Enough to where it's not worth it to take them to court over it. I was shocked they offered to settle for what they did.

All of the M1152's have factory A/C from my understanding

​@@humveeadventures Damn..I got ripped off. Mine is an 87.

@@tangledline oh that is a different Beast then. In 87 all they had was the m 998 which is the 6.2 L with a three speed transmission. No AC at all. If your vehicle has anything different than that then at some point somebody in the private sector modified it

@@tangledline Mine is a 2006 M1152 which has the 6.5 turbo diesel and the four-speed 4L80E transmission and 12K Driveline and suspension components

@@humveeadventures Yeah, Seems that way. I got this one from an old farmer who just used it on his property. Street legal and all. Your videos will help me with alot of stuff that I been wanting to do. I appreciate your responses.

I forget the guys name he was out of Oregon. Really nice guy. I found him through that national transportation company (I'd have to look that up too lol) where you post what you need shipped and the shippers bid on it. The bullshit part is that the transporters get to see what everyone else has bid.

@@humveeadventures Roger that. Thank you.

Oh sorry, you asked how much. It was $2,700 from Albany Georgia to Boise Idaho

@@humveeadventures Thank you.

Oh and remember when this was....July of 2021 which was right in the middle of all the trucking issues. The trucking industry has a massive turn over rate and ALL of the politicians in this country screwed it all up (and much more) with the covid restrictions. The training and licensing facilities were all shut down so no new people were going into the system to replace the all the people who normally quit. Supply and demand flipped and so everyone started jacking up their prices because they could. I think I would have normally paid like max 2k instead of 2.7k if it was prior to covid. Now we have the corporate gouging that's going on with the fuel and everything else.

It must have been awhile since you've bought from GovPlanet. Maybe it's all covid related, but they don't let the public inspect anything

Basket? It's been like 10 months since I made this so I don't remember all the things I said 🤷‍♂️

Except for the missing parts (half of which I was aware of before hand a the other half was hidden from me) this vehicle is in amazing shape. I'm still working out some kinks, but this past Tuesday I drove it for a few days straight. The starter gave out on me on Thursday, so that's derailed me a bit, but I'm definitely getting a factory starter this time.

Maybe they are different for the soft tops? I'm fine with the back being a lil higher. It makes for more headroom

What are you referring to exactly?

@@humveeadventures What happened with gov planet?

@herbyh369 They refunded the auction fee. I think it was around $1,450

I have since figured everything out and all works great! Turns out they put in the wrong output bearing on the transfer case and so the driveshaft would only go on like 1" and therefore the rest couldn't be put back to normal.

You should check out my other videos. I got all the parts for it and started it up last week for the first time. Once I got fuel it started right up and runs great. The next day I checked to see how much Blow by there was and it was pretty much zero. So even though I've had to replace a lot of parts, even once you add up what I paid for it and then had put into it, it would still be cheaper than if I but the same one in the same condition that was running. Even if I had spent the same amount I would have still been better off because of the pristine condition of the vehicle

They refunded the auction fee of almost $1,500. If I had more money at that point in time I would have pushed it and taken them to court if needed. A fair amount back would have been a minimum of 3k.

I had plenty of will and determination so things have worked out great in the long run.

@@humveeadventures Did you find out what that "cable" hanging down under the chassis was for? If not, it is a "safety restraint cable" designed to prevent the T-Case from being driven into the Fuel Tank on frontal impact. It is one of a handful of "safety features" the Military eventually did copy from AM General's Civilian HUMMER (H1).

@@jimbella9353 I figured it was some sort of safety cable, but you're the first 1 who's EVER said about it being to keep the T case from going into the fuel that. That actually makes total sense now that someone (you) pointed it out. It's nice to get insider information like that 😉

I did the same night I got it and filed the claim the next day, which was July 2nd. Yesterday morning we came to an agreement.

I'm having to wait till Monday when they're open again to talk to them about a couple of things first and then after that, depending on how that goes, I will give you my item number to put them on blast publicly

$9,600 plus taxes and auction fees....$11,980 total. I knew it was missing things ahead of time, the issue is that it's missing a lot more than the "inspector" (I saw that word VERY loosely) let on. There's ZERO change is was by accident too.

@@humveeadventures seems that one needs to be careful buying at govplanet. Good thing is ,price is not bad. People will try to sell you old m998 for that price or more.

@@humveeadventures Isn't that a turbo 4 speed? I'd say you got a good deal, i've seen m998's going for $20k lately.

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At first yes, but they sort of made it right with a bit of persuasion lol

Sure, when I get home. I have to go finish up a small painting job for a client right now

I recorded it earlier. I'll upload it now. Should post in an hour or so. Happy 4th to you!

Fate3d no i found the answer. My complete speedo system was taken out from the red gear in the transmission and up excluding the speedo.

@@clashofclansshield8583 Differences in 998 (turbo 400) and 1123/1165 (4L80) ? One described a sensor wire, the other a cable? Big difference. Glad it's ok...

600ThumperRider thanks for the update. I resolved this. The speedo system was completely removed all the way to the transfer case. I opted to get the $700 kit since everything was missing.

Mine only had 40 pics. Normally there's WAY more. Sometimes even 70 to 80. I guess I now know why some have very few pics lol

Just cause yours was doesn't mean his was

Dude....please do us all a favor and lay off the meth pipe. I already have a brand new smart box in there and so what if I didn't know what that plug was for. Are you trying to tell me that the VERY first time you were ever in a hmmwv that you magically knew every aspect of it? And you suggest I get rid of the whole thing because I don't know a few things about the vehicle?? GTFOH with your disgruntled jibber jabber. Don't take out your unhappy life on everyone else. I've already met some awesome people in the HMMWV community. You Sir are an exception and definitely don't represent what the vast majority of HMMWV owners stand for.

Sorry to hear that. I maybe put half of that into mine to get it going. Runs absofuckinglutely perfect though and that's what matters. On the plus side it turns out they had just put in a brand new rear diff. Those things are like 4 to 5 thousand

@@humveeadventures thanks for the reply also to elaborate more on my HMMWV I changed the alternator because the bracket broke I had to have a new fly wheel and starter installed ( trans needed to be dropped for that) I changed the catalac valve new module new thermostater thermostat new half shafts new ball joints tie rod idle arm shocks etc IMPORTANT: the bolts they use on the half shafts suck and they can come loose hence one day I was driving and 2 of the half shafts came loose and destroyed the brake pads and discs they offer better bolts so if I was you I would change all of those out before you drive it anymore. I also bought a new set of tires and I bought the aluminum doors with the "pick up" conversion. Mine has a Helmet roof which I actually like a lot much storage and in the winter time all my tools are dry. I needed to replace my ranch vehicle and I decided on the HMMWV because it will get dirty and stay dirty. I wanted to rip the band aid off on this purchase and just put it behind me hence all the parts I piled into it ( some did not need replaced but if you are tearing it apart and are already into it might as well change the others out while it is taken apart. I have the 6.2 diesel a simple cut and dry engine top speed is around 45 mph that is not pushing it hard but it gets a daily dose of off road use. It has been running really well all year now so I am pretty happy with it you can also look up on internet about how to lightly press the brake while giving it fuel and that will lock the wheels back and forth in order to get out of a pinch it is not fool proof but it is a major help. also a winch is useful for me I have gotten mine stuck twice and it got me home. be careful about the hand brake maybe yours has a actual park mine does not and a couple times it took off rolling and I was lucky enough to jump into it ( doors were off) and get it stopped before it went tumbling into a canyon on the ranch. this ranch is were pickup trucks come to die a slow painful death and as of now the HMMWV is thriving in my region. good luck on your rig good news is they will always have value for resale

@@bodhixxx1 I only read the first part so far, but mine was missing the starter and I originally tried one of those aftermarket ones that have the gearing block built into them so the starter doesn't have to work as hard. Anyways not surprisingly that burned out on me and then I wound up just going with a factory waterproof alternator because I will be going through Rivers. I didn't have to remove anything to make it happen so I'm not sure why I keep hearing that's what people have to do🤷‍♂️

@@humveeadventures my flywheel was ate up transmission needs to be dropped to change that out.

I finally got a chance to read the rest of what you wrote. I have the 6.5 TD and they come mated to the 4L80E 4-speed with a parking gear. Just a couple of hours ago there was a new guy in our small local HMMWV group that posted a pic showing his CV driveline that came detached from the Diff and 1 bent bolt hanging on. I'm thinking they probably weren't tightened correctly, or maybe didn't have lock washers