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Hobbes's Leviathan 

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Chapter Eight from Book Three, Part One of Bertrand Russell's "The History Of Western Philosophy" (1945).

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@kbee3713
@kbee3713 7 лет назад
The same state he protected ended up preventing him from freely expressing himself.
@euggiemonad2523
@euggiemonad2523 День назад
What are those voices in the background? It sounds like this was recorded with a TV going in the next room, and it detracts from the video.
@MSElabE
@MSElabE 8 лет назад
There a few things I am uncertain about. Did Hobbes ever explain how the Sovereign is selected? Also, do the characteristics of the natural human condition: selfishness, desire for glory and etc. carry into civil society?
@differous01
@differous01 8 лет назад
+MSElabE ~ "how the Sovereign is selected? " ~ Kings are chosen by women lying in ponds distributing swords. Everybody knows that . As for your second question, all people in any society subjugate their ambitions to the will of some sovereign authority - whether that be a king, a government, a tyrany, Caliphate or whatever. It is not a matter of whether those qualities flow from the sovereign into society; they are endemic and, in Hobbes as in Aristotle, society is based on self awareness of those realities: "Yet the natural inclinations of men toward power always impel them to break contracts. Without the fear of punishment for breaking contracts, men will break them whenever it is immediately advantageous for them to do so. Thus the basic social contract of the commonwealth must vest power in one central, sovereign authority, with power to punish those who break the contract. " [Leviathan, Part II: “Of Commonwealth”]
@daviddorsey8754
@daviddorsey8754 8 лет назад
Well said, Roman Brown
@thechronic1313
@thechronic1313 10 лет назад
I'm pretty sure that this is not conservative propaganda, though Russell is biased to a degree here, also it is an understatement to say that Hobbes was incredibly influential in social contract theory.
@gda295
@gda295 10 лет назад
a royalist " and he wields the battle axe rather than the rapier...." "....grave defects prevent him from being in the front rank..." B Russell Also, the first 45 secs worth price of admission alone
@jonathanaarhus224
@jonathanaarhus224 Месяц назад
Hobbes is one of those rare thinkers that is simultaneously brilliant and dead wrong most of the time. He kind of reminds me of Robert Heinlein, in that regard.
@michaelholifield4036
@michaelholifield4036 10 лет назад
This man was a genius
@tedgrant2
@tedgrant2 3 года назад
Religion deals with things we aught to do (e.g. Love our enemies). Science deals with things we want to do (e.g. Defeat our enemies). This explains why science is more important than religion, especially for governments. In this respect, unusually, governments are more advanced than the general population.
@Raydensheraj
@Raydensheraj 3 года назад
Since works. Simple as that. Religions premise aka " my cultural preferred be version of a invisible superbeeing or/and denomination " is correct and the rest is wrong ( maybe even needs eliminated because MY invisible superbeeing said so ) fails in literally every way possible.
@tedgrant2
@tedgrant2 3 года назад
@@Raydensheraj I agree with my interpretation of what you wrote.
@rgaleny
@rgaleny 8 лет назад
If you substitute Capitalism for The State in his argument it sounds familiar.
@DalonCole
@DalonCole 8 лет назад
Hobbes would have made a great Democrat
@xxcoopcoopxx
@xxcoopcoopxx 4 года назад
Hobbes wrote an essay of the evils of Democracy. He would have been a Republican or Loyalist to Kings and Crowns.
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