Hockenheim - Origins of the Legendary Forest Loop - History

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Who can forget the blast through the forest at the Legendary Hockenheim? V10s screaming past trees at well over 200mph, momentarily interrupted by devilish chicanes to test drivers skills. The mechanical and engineering challenge of making a car like a bullet in a straight line, but still produce downforce for the tricky stadium section was unparalleled on the F1 calendar. Fans Mourne the loss of Hockenheim and its classic layout, but many do not know the true original configuration of Hockenheim, the Dreieckskurs.
I hope you enjoy this brief look at the history of Hockenheim!
This was filmed using the two great simulations Assetto Corsa and Grand Prix Legends. Links to the tracks used below:
Assetto Corsa
Hockenheim Modern: www.racedepartment.com/downlo...
Hockenheim 88: www.racedepartment.com/downlo...
Grand Prix Legends
Hockenheim 1932: srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=13
Read more about the history of Hockenheim here:
www.circuitsofthepast.com/hoc...
www.hockenheimring.de/en/info...
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@mattmattmatt131313 3 года назад

2:58 "He pitched the idea (of a new race circuit) to the towns mayor and was met with enthusiasm" Wow, what a different era!

@OmegaF77 3 года назад

He would have been shot nowadays.

@Yoshik379 3 года назад

Different times (1932). 1930s Germany was car/racing crazy. Much due to certain political "circumstances". Motor racing was one of the best showcases of technology.

@Yoshik379 3 года назад

@@OmegaF77 "We already have 4! Formula 1 Grand Prix tracks in Nashville."

@polycube868 3 месяца назад

@@Yoshik379that woman took the trophy of dumbest blonde of the 21st century! 😂

@commanderelvismccool9410 3 года назад

The old Dreieickskurs actually still exists. The part to the Spitzkehre in Oftersheim is still a public road like it was back in the thirties and the part that leads from Oftersheim to Hockenheim is a road through the Hardtwald (the forest). It is a paved road where you can ride a bicycle or walk, cars are not allowed. The roads around the Stadtkurve in Hockenheim also still exist. They are also public roads now and at the Stadtkurve is now a building of the Hockenheim Fire Department.

@the_listamin 3 года назад

I shed some tears visiting all of those places 2 years ago, just like I shed some tears watching this Requiem.

@burdineestep4224 3 года назад

Well finally someone has put forth a complete track layout video / history. Was there 1964- 1967. Raced Ducati's 250's there in 65 , 66. Used to camp outside the final r/h turn in the trees, as there wasn't any grandstand build then. Great track then.

@goncalorodrigues7103 3 года назад

thank you for sharing sir

@Sitzriese 3 года назад

This channel is massively underrated!

@OhItsThat 3 года назад

Probably cause he’s not making POV ACC videos. Sim racing is supposed to be about more then just GT3 cars but yet gets 99+ of the love from developers, content creators and hardware manufacturers. 💩

@justinloward5015 3 года назад

Yeah, it's kinda strange he's only 18.500 subs....I love this channel

@jopvandam6820 3 года назад

@@OhItsThat Exactly! I love sim racing and I love gt3 spec cars, but I rather watch videos and read articles about everything motorsport, from tracks and their history to technical knowledge, than just endless gt onboards. Only time I want to watch someone elses onboard is when I’m learning or when it’s truly a spectacular lap someone’s doing.

@Wall562 2 года назад

It’s not underrated. It’s called a niche audience, and that’s a compliment.

@bbb462cid 3 года назад

7 April 1968. Rest in peace, Jimmy Clark. Flower of Scotland, will we ever see your like again?

@lottieluna123 3 года назад

I would binge nothing but history videos like this for hours. Excellent work.

@MichaelRoma91 3 года назад

I love the ending where you transition v10 f1 cars into the earlier gp cars. That was a nice touch

@Amaroq81 3 года назад

The ending, final fifteen seconds or so, was just ... chef's kiss!!

@nelodiousjeb5011 3 года назад

Did not know about the 1930’s version - great stuff

@briewhit1312 2 года назад

that final transition shot from the f1 cars blasting down the Hockenheimring to a lone Mercedes cruising down the original Hockenheim circuit gives me chills lmao

@Unholydk10 3 года назад

Let's get this man some subs. The historic value alone is enough for this channel to thrive. The racing is very entertaining as well. Let's get him out there guys!!!

@aw3man_ 3 года назад

Wow. I feel nostalgic for a prewar track.

@szalonysebcio5 3 года назад

After binge-playing Call of Duty 1 and 3, I feel a strange nostalgia towards anything 30s and 40s, so I definitely feel the same. I think the music he put in the background complimented the visuals perfectly!

@rodrrico 3 года назад

This is one of your best videos. Outstanding homage to the once formidable Hockenheimring. Fun fact, I originally tried building the 1932 and 1938 layouts for Rfactor in about 2009 but ultimately abandoned the projects for various reasons. I once again tried to revive the project in 2011 adding a 1980s proposed layout that added more significant corners at the various forest chicanes, but again this was abandoned due to work commitments of the time. I hope someone revives these old layouts for Rfactor 2 as that software became too complicated to build tracks for my humble skills. I'm glad that my Imola, Attia Stadt and other tracks live on these days though.

@jamesbehra2690 3 года назад

Well done Jake! I suggest you to make more of this perhaps a dedicated playlist of old our forgotten circuits. History is to be remembered regardless the subject. Cheers! 🇵🇹👍

@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts 3 года назад

Can't agree more! Love tracks like the old AVUS track, that one insanely long Italian circuit and other obscure early 20th century tracks. I think using custom track files on a racing game to show these tracks is perfectly acceptable, since there's hardly any other way to show how these tracks were.

@jamesbehra2690 3 года назад

@@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts Indeed man! Im addicted in old tracks and vintage games!

@DSW964 3 года назад

Fantastic job! I am reliving sitting in the stands high above the first turn in the early 80’s, watching the cars roar off into the distance, a packed stadium waiting excitedly who would be leading on their thunderous return each lap.

@maxmulsanne7054 2 года назад

Yup. That was my experience too in 1988. Only I chose the Ost Kurve for the occasion. 🏁

@kit4626 3 года назад

Great vid. I am glad to have witnessed several F1 races as spectator at the high speed straights. It was magic experience the V10 and V12 there. My first visit was back in 95 where Michael Schumacher won in the Benetton. The sound of these cars and the pure speed was pure passion. Was disappointed that they destroyed the old circuit. What a shame.

@HorrorUberAlles 3 года назад

I am jealous beyond belief! it must have been insane! As a child of the '80s, I grew up watching Formula 1 throughout the '90s and into the early '00s, Monza and Hockenheim used to be my favorite races to watch! it annoyed the hell outta me when they announced that they would be resizing Hockenheim for the '02 season :(

@markjones5163 3 года назад

Variety is the spice of life, and Hockenheim was a great contrast to the other tracks back in the day. It wasn't just Hockenheim that didn't have passing, no one could pass anywhere.

@TheYoshi463 3 года назад

Formula 1 is not purely about passing, it's also about the craziness of driving the fastest and most overengineered cars on the absolute limit. No track encompassed this better than Hockenheim, apart from maybe Monaco, the Nordschleife and Spa.

@maxmulsanne7054 2 года назад

There was still a good slip-streaming battle once in while until the very late 1990's & early 2000's. But the cars were becoming so far advanced that those occasions basically faded away. One of my favorite races to watch aside from the 1969 and 1971 Monza races, is the 1970 Hockenheim race with Rindt and Ickx duking it out. Good audio too with natural sounds.

@alphabetaxenonzzzcat 3 года назад

I think the original Ostkurve(used up until 1982) was a very challenging corner. I always fond of the old Hockenheim circuit, in the refuelling era, as it actually encouraging racing ontrack - rather than overtaking someone in pitstops. You had to set the car up on a compromise.

@borisbishoff2505 3 года назад

This video was amazing! Especially the final part where you trasition from a v10 to a pre war car really hit.

@riderofthemark6661 3 года назад

Amazing video, high quality racing history!! Thanks Jake!

@SOIBand 3 года назад

top notch editing work. Nice video. Really informative and pleasent to look at.

@bobmcl2406 3 года назад

Beautifully researched, written, narrated, and edited. Thank you Jake!

@ricardoboaventura9046 3 года назад

What a production. Absolutely love the content.

@jonthedoors 3 года назад

one of the best videos you made so far. amazing job

@JURacing 3 года назад

Absolutely well made video with lots of info I didn't know about before. Keep on doing these kinds of history lessons pleeeeease - love it!

@BrandonCrosslin 3 года назад

Your channel is a gem. Just pure pageantry and grit years of racing history.

@81casperflip Год назад

The late 90s version of this track was so awesome. Favorite track of my childhood

@sgtrock5111 3 года назад

Seriously, you are awesome man. Thank you so much for what you do.

@daddywhatchucookin2924 3 года назад

Dude this content is absolutely amazing!

@debe968 3 года назад

I live 30 Minutes from the Hockenheimring away. Great stuff, very accurate video. :)

@morebacon1780 3 года назад

My favorite simracing channel. Keep up the good work. 👍👍

@ericschmieder9105 3 года назад

Awesome, awesome stuff. Great storytelling vibe, cadence, and tone. Made me a bit nostalgic for Sunday mornings with Sam Posey as part of Speedvision’s F1 pre-race show. You are really making great content!

@damienspurs147 3 года назад

Great video miss the old hockhenim circuit

@strayminogaming2189 3 года назад

I used to call the old Spa circuit "the belgian roulette", with reference to the russian roulette, but this one was no better... With those cars (and motorbikes), on those bumpy roads, at those speeds and so close to thousands of trees! Thanks for sharing this piece of history, it's amazing 👍🏻

@Jt7166 3 года назад

Great stuff man, what a legendary circuit

@57Javier747 3 года назад

Epic outro. I very enjoy this kind of videos. Great work bud!

@sa.29 3 года назад

What an awesome video, and a great history lesson!

@scullystie4389 3 года назад

Really liked the editing on this one, keep up the great work

@foolinjection 3 года назад

Fantastic video. Really well put together.

@nocunox27 3 года назад

Excellent video mate. Looking forward to more videos like this

@Vollhirni 3 года назад

You are the first guy to make me let the ads run through since the beginning of youtube. Hope you will soon get the attention you deserve,. To me you are the best and most stylish entertainer in virtual racing, Jake.

@GPLaps 3 года назад

Thanks! I appreciate it. Dont worry about the ads though they dont pay very much money ;)

@Vollhirni 3 года назад

@@GPLaps oh, I thought they were important for the overall rating of the channel as well?

@oldboydog 3 года назад

Excellent vid, GP

@Jawwzzz808 3 года назад

You have good commentary and good skills at driving hope your channel grows it’s so underrated

@RyanHellyer 3 года назад

Fascinating. I didn't realise the original layout was so wildly different.

@nibbleheim4388 3 года назад

A very pleasant video, I especially liked the music :)

@federicotombolini_ 3 года назад

I went to Hockenheim for first round of 2019 DTM season and I walked on great part of the original circuit! The first day the part inside the town,the second day I arrived to the circuit through the forest using the third original straight,then before leaving I made a tour on the 1968-2001 circuit. It was fascinating while visiting the original layout,very sad visiting the newer one,also because I used to loved it when F1 used to race on it...

@ryklatortuga4146 3 года назад

Piquet vs. Salazar is my favourite memory of this track. SO many hard accidents here.

@Tom_Hadler 3 года назад

"And it's Salazar, the Colombian"

@sabre0smile 3 года назад

Darn. I actually teared up a little. An excellent history of courses lost to time!

@davideurenius5272 3 года назад

Didn't want it to end... the outro was fantastic!

@TretaGames 3 года назад

This is SUPER cool, love this concept, do more of this please

@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts 3 года назад

This channel needs more attention. I hope we can get more videos like these! In depth looks at old and classic tracks like these are something I've been craving for the longest time.

@thecodex0994 3 года назад

The long circuit on the 86/88 f1 season mod on r factor 2 wrestling the 80s era car with a manual 5 speed gear box it heaven. Those I never knew the triangle or 38 era tracks were original layouts

@freejrs 3 года назад

Nice! The music was really good on this. Cheers.

@leeday2265 Год назад

I've recently been really enjoying 1990s Hockenheim on GTR2. I've never been a fan of any of the Hockenheims tbh. However, the races on 1990s Hock..............possibly the best racing I've had on GTR2. Absolutely fantastic.

@jspoons6619 3 года назад

F1 at the old track was just waiting to see how many cars would remain at the end of full race distance . I liked the track to drive it flat out took some skill while not blowing your engine apart. I mean at the end of the day they had to return the track to the woods that was the agreement for the use of the Forest section I understand. the new track is not bad but it is a long way from the classic layout. nice to see the original layout thanks.

@commodoregs2984 3 года назад

As ever great video! 👍👍👍👍

@Jr55amg 2 года назад

As I write this comment im exactly at the old pits from 1932-1966 and exploring the old tarmac retaken by nature and cut off from the ring due to the Autobahn. It's must have been awesome to race the "Dreieckskurs" ! Thanks for making me visual it in a fast manner and not with all the nature and the house of the hockenheimers !

@LaCorvette 3 года назад

Thanks for the history lesson. Really brought the feels for me. The original Dreieckskurs can still be seen in the street layout and build up area. Don't forget the asparagus, Hockenheim is famous for. Too bad the old layout is gone and too bad the sim tracks never get the trees right.

@dxme9190 3 года назад

i was at hockenheim back in 2019 and the trees at the old layout where a bit leaning forward the direction the cars came out of the forest, wich made it look like the cars passing by at these intense speeds made the trees grow that way

@xerpenta 3 года назад

The ending... man, that's a nice touch.

@Villoresi 3 года назад

A couple other circuits I think could use a video like this would be Monza and Sebring. Yes, they're also well-known, but certainly not all the layouts are, and some of those variants have largely been forgotten.

@chrisbloom382 3 года назад

Another fascinating story.

@bobbywest1405 3 года назад

That was insanely well put together video Would love to see a full lap 😉

@Villoresi 3 года назад

Definitely would like to see the full lap as well.

@t.sewell1513 3 года назад

Never knew any of this. Very cool.

@mooreanonumbers 3 года назад

Beautiful vid

@TenorCantusFirmus 3 года назад

Tilke's "Neue-Hockenheimring": [Exists.] Me: "I want back the original one." "Classic"/"Old" Hockenheimring: "Hier ich am, ja!" Me: "I said the original one!" GPLaps: "Thyne bidding is mine bidding, Sir." Me: "So much better..."

@11NetNet11 3 года назад

Great video GPLaps! Maybe one day you can make a gameplay video about the 1932 Hockenheimring track (;

@tzeffsmainchannel 3 года назад

In "Formula 1" (game by Psygnosis) the paved Hockenheim can be seen. I remember that it's at the long straights is where you can actually see the strength (or weakness) of the cars! With Williams or Ferrari simply flying by the midfield teams on those super long straights!

@xfa33lupisrex52 3 года назад

Here's my left arm now take me to the 20th century

@isuckatthisgame 2 года назад

Epic, just epic!

@HHPYEPIC42 3 года назад

I miss the old curcuit

@RalonsoF1 3 года назад

A highly enjoyable trip to the glorious past of the legendary Hockenheim Circuit!

@burtpanzer 3 года назад

Different circuits provide different challenges to overcome and Hockenheim's attributes required cars capable of reaching and maintaining maximum speed, which require men with the guts and skill to drive them... of which I have participated in several times myself (simulated).

@Nickyy64 3 года назад

Wow what a video.

@Jaimefumer13 3 года назад

Very interesting !

@MaxAinscoughRacing93 3 года назад

God the old Hockenheim was good. F1, F2, and F3, as well as 500cc Grand Prix and WSBK... All had great races, all close, all awesome to watch. All sadly no longer possible. :(

@martinalkenius8719 3 года назад

i really like this video and i think many others did too. i have never reeally seen a such in deph on this track and would wonder if you could do one on Monza next?

@andyparker2119 3 года назад

I love stuff like this 👍

@Arkham_UK 2 года назад

Brilliant 👍

@m.d.5463 2 года назад

It´s possible to drive on almost the full track of 1932 'Dreieckskurs' - by pedal bike only - today. There are markings in the forrest around and you can download the map.

@triptechable 3 года назад

What a beautiful video mate. Very well done. I really miss the old Hockenheim just like I do the old Silverstone and Osterichring. Still have the memories. Tilke can't take those away!

@maxmulsanne7054 2 года назад

Yes! Those 3 circuits and Monza. Oh and Zandvoort while it lasted.

@thomassmith4999 3 года назад

The forest was beautiful I wish they would bring it back

@CrazyDiamond238 3 года назад

Why everyone hates the modern Hockenheim circuit? It is a nice racetrack with opportunities for action and overtaking. Of course it is not the circuit through the forest but it is also good and way better than many tracks where overtaking is nearly impossible and you see just a long train of cars.

@HorrorUberAlles 3 года назад

Next up: the old Spa circuit! you can still drive around the stretches of highway that were raced back in the day!

@sch3ffel 3 года назад

everytime i see old hockenheim i am attacked by onion ninjas... is one of the reasons im slowly but surely building my sim racing setup... to grab asetto corsa throw in some mods and just go thundering around the forest loop...

@scholesysscaleschematics2445 3 года назад

So underrated Rich. Sub!!!!

@negljablewtf6911 3 года назад

yo That Was Pretty Cool :)

@the_listamin 3 года назад

Poetic.

@OrdinaryLatvian 3 года назад

This was so informative. You NEED to race the AI there!

@jbaskinger41 3 года назад

Ah yes. The original original layout

@BalticVendetta 3 года назад

Subbed. Greetings from Germany. :)

@ZIGAG1999 3 года назад

watching this made me think about pre-war era of motorsports and for america at least i can't think of anything other than the indy500 and the milwaukee mile. maybe a video on a pre war american track no one knows about.

@Villoresi 3 года назад

You had Syracuse, NY and Langhorne, PA for ovals. Roosevelt Raceway on Long Island held the Vanderbilt Cup in 1936-37. Way back, you had street races in Savannah, San Francisco, Santa Monica, and elsewhere.

@AmbientMike 3 года назад

Its a shame because I honestly love the modern layout. But its story of the closing of its original layout is so tragic and essentially erased history without a thought.

@scottl.1568 3 года назад

Sweet...

@MazandJazz 3 года назад

Well, I never knew that

@Faria0808 3 года назад

mein gott just seeing those threes next to the track already gives me bad vibes

@twentytwoedits2442 3 года назад

just found the channel. really really nice video, well explained. you have that story telling voice which makes it easy to listen to you. not like many others who are like "HÄEEEY GUYS WELCOME TO MY VIDEO HIT THE SUBSCRIBE BUTTON WOHOOOO" edit: just realized that I DID in fact watch a video of you before. it was "A Grand Prix Get-Away - 1937 Tripoli Grand Prix - rFactor 1" last week