Hockey Fight: wives reveal the cost of concussions - The Fifth Estate 

That and he was Indigenous, not only correctly benching LaFontaine.

@@dylanr8481 If it was because he was Indigenous he never would have been there, it's because he acknowledged it... I lived on a reserve and taught boxing there, I had the key to the Gym but had to keep it from common knowledge because I was white.....

Makes me sick to my stomach

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Nolan was mistreated by the NHL.

very true -- I've had 3 major head injuries -- I haven't been me in a LONG time. First concussion was in 1969 at age 4 then '81 and again in 2001 - I wonder what I'd be like if none of them ever happened?

​@@perishablegoods1344 how did you suffer brain injury if you don't mind me asking

I have all these symptoms often. I've had over 20 head injuries and I am afraid. Sometimes I don't know who I am it's scary

He seemed so likable and kind off the ice. This story is hard to watch.

Are you following ? these men had brain damage from their role as fighters in the NHL .

Lol Bettman has been doing that ever since he first became Commish. For the love of God, just fire him already!!!

Bettman is a slime weasel.

Bettman. Another rich guy with an over blown ego. As long as the 'franchise' makes you a ton of money, right Bettman.

Football, baseball, nhl, NBA all have had scandals. All that have been denied when the truth is obvious. Nature of money and big business. Just like politics.

​@@musicman76enator and hire who?????

MuttsRus-hormones are very powerful.

Yes and yes. Bob M is a great reporter. I love his voice.

Sad but amazing story.

I loved Derek Boogaard a lot. The bogey man was so awesome. I still want his jersey .

I remember the boogeyman. RIP to Minnesota Wild Legend. Tragedy. Another great talent.

Yeah his story is sad. He was a beast of a enforcer.

Sara Allison that’s ridiculous. It doesn’t have to be violent for players to get concussions. I suffered a concussion once and it was an accident.

Sara Allison so you were saying they do care about the sheep getting injured or dead because the NHL made the game less violent?

EXACTLY...sadly

And like most people.. THEY"LL RISK IT to make lots of money fast. Don't act like it's a one way street.

@@Seraph89_What's your point then? If players can get concussions whether hockey is violent or not what's your point? Ban all hockey to eliminate concussions? Should we ban water to eliminate drowning?

Insurance companies DO NOT want people who have been injured,educated.$$$

@Gallery Of Cards oh did the NHL ban fighting now from hockey? I was just about to type that hockey will probally never be banned but they should at least get rid of fighting and if possible try to do minimal physical contact so one's head isn't affected.

Too bad most concussions are from hits, and not fights. Poor you.

But most fighters get concussions. If 90% of boxers get some form of brain damage, you no it's high among enforcers.

@@Peezster Yet virtually all of the players that have died so young and committed suicide were fighters...please tell us more of your expertise in CTE and brain injuries! You and Don Cherry and Bettman...all morons that refuse to accept the reality of fighting!

@@daniel213141 "most" is definitely not accurate. A lot of enforcers also wound up with concussions because of their physical play. Not necessarily from fighting.

I dunno...she seemed insincere to me

​@@dr.loomis4221Are you serious? I get the feeling that Mrs. Ewen is the most sincere and articulate of all the wives. What am I missing, kind sir?

🙏🏼

Along with linden macintyre

i'm both a TBI survivor and bipolar II, and in my case the TBI left me with lousy options for treating the bipolar. (namely, most of the common drugs used have seizures/tremors as a side effect, and pretty much anything that CAN give somebody tremors does give ME them.) also, i ended up on SSDI as the best of bad options because 40/40+ hour week="my body won't take this and my skill set is all back office so getting a flextime or PT job is pretty much YEAH RIGHT NOOOOO", and it's frustrating having to explain to almost every new medical pro that "nope i don't remember half my own medical history without either my binders or making my bff medibuddy it up again".

Professional Bull Riders and Bareback Bronc riders are in this group as well. There is now a group of retired PBR riders being studied for their declining health ( brain and physical) .

​@shawnmann9491 football/soccer and rugby as well. Saw a Australian w5 report on that too..sad.

sadly yes

Respect Danny from a Leaf fan!

I've come to love Dan Carcillo. He's a real hockey hero. Unlike that simpering little turd, Bettman

It's good you're working on yourself and are self aware ❤I have a head injury from baseball.strike and had a csf leak (fluid around brain and spinal cord) for 15.yrs before proper treatment. I was nauseated and light sensitive as well and once treated with an epidural blood patch it disappeared. I'm putting this here just for others too. Cheers

The question then is that why mainly the fighters?

It's not mainly the fighters. That's just all this slanted piece wants to focus on.

I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I wish u the best.

Great point

I hate great games interrupted by fights.

I mean with hockey its almost par for the course now. It wpuld be extremely strange to see a whole hockey game with absolutely no aggression (verbal or physical)

@@Galworld761 Your comment prove that you never played organized ice-hockey. There’re moments that you’ve no choice but fight.

What are the things that happen before when driving as Uber driver

@nastynate054 un what?

Ikr...its really sad that they didnt know! Their wives dont even have brain damage and they dont realize theres obviously an issue...?!

Says the guy with a brain injury.

Like father like daughter. Did y'all see the toddler baby kick the other baby in the head when he fell?

@@bartonempire You sound like you might have been kicked in the head a few times

We used to jibe each other in the boxing gym about getting punchy, you never think it will happen to you...

Not really considering it's self inflicted

@Ezili 埃爾祖莉 good point! Now they know about but still continue to do it!

Hey man. Concussions nearly destroyed me. The best thing that I've found helpful is extended fasting and keto/low inflammation diet. also microdose magic mushrooms and lions mane mushrooms.....it honestly has been life changing. my first 4 day fast, on the 3rd day I felt like I had brand new brain....the brain goes into repair mode on extended fasts.....I also intermittent fast pretty much all the time.....honestly the neurologist I went to was utterly useless....the other thing that helped was doing exercise that was fluid. Elliptical, swimming, walking, bicycle. and weight training. things that don't jar the brain....anyways I just want you to know your symptoms can improve with time in combination with a brain lifestyle.

Thank you. I appreciate you taking the time and trying to help. So many people don’t understand how life changing it can be. I hope you feel normal again now. I’ll for sure try the fasting to start iv been thinking of doing that anyways @@mrfake675

Ty Pozzobon

Did you get your concussions from sports or ?

Aganetha Bergen it’s what they got paid to do. It was expected

@@cathy3392 they didn't have to do it. They did it because of what they wanted.

Exactly! If your only good enough to be a fighter in the NHL and don’t want to get hurt doing it. Go play in the minors.

She sure did that was only one of a couple of things I saw in that child’s behavior that was worrisome

Yes she did and the mother did nothing about it.

Haha sure did. I don't think that the mom saw though....poor kid.

Way to focus on the actual subject matter! Those kids are three years apart and normal healthy kids.

KathieStevens Designs she said, ‘Hey’. What was she gonna do? Kick the child?

@Sara Allison never should of been.

These players knew the risks and the NHL penalizes fighting and it has gone down over time. You people need to stop worrying this isn’t the 1970s anymore where the Enforcers ran the NHL.

Candy Irish Hello from Canada 🇨🇦 Go online to CBC the Fifth and you can find almost all of their documentaries! Always excellent too.

There isn’t, because it is diagnosed by slicing the brain and checking it’s tissues. They can’t do that in live patients. We all need our brains lol

@@misskay8131 I'm talking more along the lines of.....there has to be another way. More research is needed for this

Having been diagnosed with CTE, their is no officially recognised test. (Much like for Alzheimer's) The diagnosis is made circumstantialy and can only be confirmed by autopsy. I have heard that CTE brains have an elevated level of some protein that is being used to develop a test (don't remember the name of the protein= daim bramage) but I don't know how far they have progressed. The lady from the CTE center in Boston is working on it

@@htopherollem649 wow. Thanks mate. Hope you will be able to keep it under control somehow.

@@htopherollem649 May God guide her, this is horrific..

So amazing. Proof is just given to you. And this is just a tiny bit of it. If you really look into this, it is a much bigger problem. But, you should go to them and let them know about your expertise about this. I don't see why they wouldn't hire you instantly to remove all these lies etc.

Yeah, but all three of these guys were enforcers who fought. Anomaly? I don't think so.

Plenty of other hockey players who are not enforcers have died.

Disagree. 47 with multiple concussions. Doctors estimate probably 11 or more only found after a slip and fall knockout 4 years ago in which full scans were done. Explains a lot I wont go into here but all throughout playing from middle/high school, rep leagues and collage the only time injuries were discussed were a) signing of player/league waivers, paperwork nobody reads and b) when a major injuries took place ie fractured ankle etc. Long term Brain injuries were never discussed. I took a hit one time on the boards which knocked me out for approx 20 seconds. Teammates said later my body was twitching. I got up and went after the guy who jumped to plant my head in the glass....because of this they said I was fine. I sat for a shift and was out for the next. Later that night I was vomiting non stop, zero sleep and wicked headache. Was given Aleve of all things. Today we know I should have gone through concussion protocols which were not created at the time. Do i blame anyone...no. .nobody knew. So I have to disagree about "everyone knowing". As science changes so do the facts and as the facts so does the science.

Very naive response. Im the same age. I had a concussion in middle school rugby, was knocked out cold, vomitted on the sideline and then told the coach I could go back in. Luckily my coach knew a little about concussion but most didn't. Ive since had numerous other concussions from sports, had I any idea the pain I would be in now, I wouldnt have played. Most people had no idea the consequences of concussions.

"..Saying these guys didnt know anything is bs. Some werent treated properly just giving pills and told to go back out. But they made the choice .." How are they suppose make an informed choice when the NHL as well as minor hockey denies that their is an inherent risk of head trauma in the sport?

Dear Vandymeer: You are 100% correct to comment that "Saying these guys didnt know anything is bs" because everyone was aware many decades ago of prize fighters who were "punch drunk" after they left the ring. Even as a teen in the 1960's, I knew that prize fighters who got hit too many times in the head ended up in various states of "vegetation" later in life. So why should getting hit on the head in hockey be any different ? It isn't, and I can't believe that NHL players and their wives were as clueless as they now say. If they didn't "know" then they were in Deep Denial, being blinded by the glamour and mega-bucks of life in the NHL. Above all, the NHL "victims" cited in this report were all Greedy. When your making Big Bucks as a pro hockey player, you don't need to play 10 or 11 years like all of these guys did. 3 or 4 years would've been enough to save a nest egg to transition to a lucrative, less violent career. But they couldn't retire after 3 or 4 years because they were Greedy for the Big Bucks that they could only make in the NHL. So, all these NHL "victims" got what they deserved as far as I'm concerned. ... jkulik919@gmail.com

@@JosephKulik2016 Nobody new about CTE 20 years ago or how common it could become..Had they known that this would be the consequence and how wide spread this is, they could have made an informed decision. What we did know is that boxers take far more punches over the course of their career. But we now know is that it doesn't take that many and it is also the number of hits and the way that your hit while playing. Saying that they are greedy and they deserve what they got is disgusting, does that make sleep better at night now that you've got that off your chest?

Ok tribal Karen

You should tell the young people in youth sports and high school sports not to play these brain dead games that WILL give you brain injury and give the ego seeking insecure coaches that are just trying to relive high school hero memories.

@@fedup1972 Well, it takes a high degree of skill and intelligence to play these sports at a high level. It's the culture of five step hits in open ice that led us down this path. Before two line pass rule, you could take 15 steps into your opponent. It's like a human wrecking ball. Imagine a motorbike running into you while you're running. That was a normal hit.

hating every time you have to deal with a new medical pro because too many of them side-eye you HARD when you tell them you don't remember half your own medical history without the paper documents to refer to or my bff being there since she remembers WAY more of it than i do, stress and medication-triggered tremors that are arguably why i couldn't manage to stay at least underemployed despite being a college grad with a STEM degree.... the pre-existing bipolar ii probably didn't help but the tremor-related absenteeism got me "you're great when you're here but you're just gone too much" type reactions from enough jobs that i ended up on SSDI as the best of bad alternatives. i got mine in the 90s, and i am pretty sure that nobody NOW would have let me go right back to engineering major classes with essentially no time off. (at the time i was mostly just happy i could get a medical drop that wouldn't count against me for a class where the prof made no sense and *was* genuinely giving me tremors from the stress in ways that even other major courses weren't. i got a B in the same class with a much better professor the next semester and also started to realize that "oops now i have to inform lab partners that they better be the ones handling the glassware and my classmates in general that i may make involuntary noises/have the shakes please don't call 911 because i''m not an epileptic". anything beyond that....not so much. i didn't even realize the reason i pretty much quit cross-stitching then was probably TBI-related attention span damage, for instance.) so yeah, don't try to tell me that 90s dudes knew what they were getting into, because i definitely didn't. (if i had i would have kept way better records of whatever medical stuff i tried back then, because i have huge chunks of my life that i'm essentially "i believe you when you tell me this but i don't independently remember it" and that by itself is frustrating.) as a side note about how TBIs can affect your personal relationships, my mom laid down the law about "nope, you are not doing that 1000+ mile road trip to visit us again even in summer, flying ONLY" after the year when she came to wake me up for pancake breakfast, i had instant tremors with no warning the instant i tried getting out of bed, and i spent the day tranquilized up instead of getting to see my family ON july 4th, which pretty much sucked. (even getting up for long enough to eat the to-go pancake plate she snagged me was tricky, and i went right back to bed afterwards because mine are basically "clonazepam and sleep it off" once they start.)

Oof major projecting here, just a massive cringe post bud.@@fedup1972

The commissioner of the National Hockey League should be fulfilled by Somebody that played hockey like the knowledgeable Ken Dryden instead of Bettman. who makes 4 mil a year for 30yrs

IKR WTF was that about???!!!???

Focus!

Time stamp?

@@italian1ist 1:50

I highly doubt it

She learned from the best

Well they’re literally 1 years old.

It’s the for boxing and UFC

I agree, and I don’t feel sorry for them, everyone knows what happens to people that fight, they get hurt..

They didnt know about cte back then. So no, they didnt know the risks.

@@Barec76 I'm with you on your thought I don't watch sports but it was not a known fact back then and let's face it the Canadian autopsy obviously lied so the Hockey League could use it and get away with even more head injuries and lawsuits...

It has been known for years that traumatic head injuries cause these types of problems - they just finally named it cte.

Why? These athletes know the risk and these sports are all completely different in regards to head tramua due to frequency of them. Fighting probably the safest because of target area being the whole body not just the head and the fact the frequency is small as a fighter doesn’t fight very often in comparison to team sports.

nobody ever thinks it'll be them, and the research is starting to show that even sub-concussive injuries (hitting the ice wrong, getting checked into the boards, etc.) can do enough cumulative damage to mess your life up which they DIDN'T know back when most current NHL dudes were coming up.

They didnt know the extent of the damage caused back then.

The padding in the helmet or helmet design is not the problem. Its the whip lash effect that bounces your brain around.

i do not own a house.. i cannot afford to not work. yet i get headaches and mood swings everyday... depression.. anxiety.. its all there. i do not own a house. did i say this already?

You sound a bit bitter. I bought my house at 25, with no help from anyone. Deal. With. It.

I do not like watching boxing, I find it barbaric a throw back to ancient Rome, why would one want to watch hockey to see people box each other? I'm surprised it is allowed.

I love hockey and get so peeved when active play is interrupted with a stupid fight. I mean the skill involved, the coordination and the elegance is astounding!!!! Why interupt with a crude and sloppy fight.

That is ridiculous

I guess you missed that part of the video huh?

@@TheWitchOvAgnesi what reason would they have for retiring? A carpenter could retire after hitting his thumb too. It was generally assumed you recovered from concussions and certainly never known how damgerous they were. Most people still dont know. Which is why im happy theyre making this.

Timoteo Juans he made over 6 million dollars during his career. I have a good hunch why he didn’t retire after his first concussion. Get real

@@timoteojuans1964 Perhaps you misread my comment (I was replying to the original poster's comment, not yours). I was referring to the point Ewens' wife made that the older players had no idea about the dangers they were facing. And as you point out, the assumption was that concussions would "heal." And you're right, the general population still has no idea about the issues. Thankfully most coaches in the sport now do, and that's where the education needs to begin.

No doubt! She looks rough.

bad comment and bad decision. I think you have CTE already.

I do, but you don’t hear me crying about it! If you were a real man and played the game at the level I did you would know what I’m talking about. I feel sorry for you, If you think trying to reach your dreams is a bad decision!

I did too play as well played in junior Very rough had 3 concussions

​@juststatinfactssv4989 no one needs to play hockey to be a man, let alone play "at your level". Get over yourself.