From CBC News: The National. Video-journalist Peter Wall follows three committed hockey parents at one of the biggest tournaments of the year. How far will they go for their kids?
@@Jeanette1994 ya...what a horrible dad! He spent countless hours driving his son to games and practices...spent tons of money, putting him in hockey schools, and elite schools....he sacrificed his personal time and life for his son to become a successful professional athlete! Wow..what a bad guy!
@@user-dl3pe3nr1s It doesn't matter how much time you seemingly put into your kid, constantly yelling at them and beating them down can do tonnes of irreversible emotional damage. And this was whilst he was being recorded, who knows how much worse it could be when he wasn't being watched?
The problem is middle-class families risks a lot of time and money for their kids to have a good future, that's why the parents are hard on kids. Work hard now get paid later. Well, Mitch got paid. 11million paid. I think sometimes the pressure is needed as kids don't know any better. You can hear Mitch said "I don't care" in the car. With that kind of attitude, it's hard to go pro unless you have someone to push you to your limits.
@@bshinjp couldn't agree more! Every kid needs to be pushed! Behind every successful athlete is a parent that took time to encourage, push, and motivate ...
Then tell your parents....not youtube. You're playing AAA because of your parents! Chances are you're not going anywhere , besides a men's beer league. So, basically, your parents invested thousands of dollars, with zero return! Be grateful, your parents cared that much about you, and put you into organized sports! I bet you went to multiple tournaments, stayed, in a lot of hotels, and made a lot of life long friends! You probably picked up a lot of life lessons and morals along the way....next time you whine about how hard it is playing "AAA" think about all the kids that can't play hockey because their parents can't afford it!
Absolutely. You can't be so good during the season and then so shit in the playoffs without an explanation. Sure the playoffs are different but not THAT different
I have to disagree. There's a reason Mitch is a top 5 scorer in the league and most people have heard of Mikey mcleod. As unfortunate as it is intense pressure from parents is highly correlated with professional success. Tiger Woods, Serena Williams, Floyd Mayweather are extreme examples. I'm making an assumption here but I would think even at lower levels of athletics a player's skill has a high correlation with parental intensity. Negative reinforcement used for behavioural conditioning stays with a kid, especially coming from a parent or teacher, and is a much stronger factor in success than positive reinforcement used as a reward system.
@@jamiebate9019 Mitch is a top player during the season because of his talent. He crumbles under pressure in the playoffs because of his father. Look at his over the glass penalty in game 6, that was a mental blunder of the highest order. There is something not right with Mitch when the pressure is on. He is so scared of failure he cannot succeed
@@smokesletsgo2374 Mitch was our best playoff player 3 years in a row. The same people praising him for being the only one who went in the corners against the bruins are the ones saying he is a disappearing act during the playoffs. Marner is not a bad playoff player. Look what the habs have done to everyone else theyve been against. They specialize in making great players look mediocre or worse. If Mark stone was a leaf he'd be getting even worse treatment than marner right now.
My heart breaks to see little Mitch. Fathers can be so destructive to a child’s psyche. This makes me want to fight for Mitch even more. My children had an abusive father and they still suffer as adults from his hurtful words and expectations. I’m sure Mitch loves his Dad and his Dad loves him, but this sweet kid needed some love and encouragement.
What? Buddy did you hear his dad in the car ? I mean the fucking kids dad was spending 18 grand a year so the fucker could make the nhl. He’s 12 years old. Not a 2 year old. I’d venture to say there’s lots of little kids that would suck the hine teet just to get their father to spend that much time and spend that much money on them. Not to mention actually be invested in the thing they are doing. Don’t act like the mother fucker had a tough childhood.
@@bonnypowers9377 There are many forms of parenting. This is abuse. Mitch became the player he is because of natural talent. Whatever his fathers motives were, treating a child this way is not necessary. Because Mitch is currently riding the wave of success, everyone sees this video and congratulates his fathers ‘tough love’. What about the times of doubt. The days of no points and social media scorn. Mitch deserved love and total acceptance from his father. No one will ever convince me that his fathers cruelty made him who he is today. Mitch was born great.
@@rosanne787 Mitch scored like 6 goals a game his whole life sweetheart. There were no bad games. I’m not congratulating the tough love. I’m saying there wasn’t tough love. His dad probably woke up and made him eggs. Guy lived in a heated house. I mean he had a father that was always there for him physically and didn’t beat the crap out of him. This whole mental abuse stuff is taking a bit of a turn at this point. Like Mitch is already soft as a pillow. I’d say his dad didn’t go hard enough on him. There’s a line to cross. Mitch’s dad probably didn’t come anywhere near that line. I mean he probably bought him new sticks every year. His dad spent 18 grand a year on hockey. Mitch had a good childhood and I guarantee he would say the same thing. He was given every opportunity in the world. It’s natural talent but there’s a Mitchell Marner in China with the same natural talent. He just isn’t going to be given the opportunity to play hockey 5 times a week. His parents are the reason he got the opportunity to do that and I would say it was awfully nice of them to sacrifice that much time and money into their kid. That won’t be happening for our children in Canada. 25 year olds in Canada won’t be spending 18 grand a year on their kids to play hockey in 10 or 15 years. We won’t be able to afford it. Which is unfortunate.
@@bonnypowers9377 I hear you. My parents couldn’t afford to put any of us in hockey. I couldn’t afford to put my kids on hockey. I’ve been poor my entire life. I can still feel compassion for a person who is sensitive and tender, which I believe Mitch to be. The way his father spoke to him made me cringe. No innocent child deserves to be spoken to that way. To this day, Mitch knows his Dad will ask him ‘why didn’t you score on those first two tries to tie the record?’ I guess Mitch has come to terms with this. And I would imagine he loves his Dad. I just think that life is too short not to be kind and compassionate.
@@rosanne787 to be honest I doubt his dad is putting pressure on him to get the record. You’ve fantasized that. You’re mad at your own dad. Don’t take it out on Paul Marner. He’s a hockey dad. I can guarantee he isn’t perfect but the kid made it to the rink 7 nights a week. I don’t think his dad made him a wussy. Like you said with his talent. Mitch was born a wussy just like he was born a hockey player.
Marners dad should have been banned from ALL arenas where his son played. He is abusive to say the least. Good work Mitch, you made it on talent and hard work something your father unfortunately knows nothing about!
Lol, I have seen worse. This happened about 15 years ago but I personally knew a hockey dad who threw a 33 gallon trash can filled with rubbish into the rink (I forgot why he got mad). Banana peels, slushies, dirty Kleenex etc. And, of course he was banned for some time.
Abusive? Lol you obviously never played any youth sports. I played football, hockey and lacrosse for most of my youth days and there was always 2-3 parents from either side who would act like this. My brother played soccer and basketball and I would hear parents from those times. My sister did girls hockey, dancing and rugby in the summer as quirt and the same type of parents would be yelling at their kids during practice, games and dance practice.. If the kids sports wants to do something about it than creating guidelines and have authority figures walking around among the crowds is the only legal and realistic way to shut abusing parent's out.
American GanGster Lock sweetheart my 3 sons played junior hockey in southern Alberta and Saskatchewan. If parents acted like that moron, swearing at kids they were escorted from the arena...of course that was the early 70’s so I guess it’s acceptable today...have a good safe day and keep on keeping on!
Awww. Poor lil mitch in the car. All that hard work paid off though and I truly thank you for doing it. Great times ahead for TML fans! Thanks to Mitch's parents also!
I've been around parents like this for awhile, the sad thing is it is getting worse and for every Mitch Marner there is is 10,000 future beer leaguers.
and somehow we all just assumed that mitch hugging carlton the bear, drawing smiley faces on his gloves, and high fiving his teammates after most things was just him being a silly guy... he never got to be a kid :(
My parents pushed me a lot in hockey and made me do things I did not exactly want to. Granted I didn't make it anywhere, I am thankful of what they did because it made me a good hockey player and I enjoyed it a lot
And now Michael McCleod was one of the players charged in the 2018 Team Canada World Juniors sexual assault case. Hell, there’s speculation that he was the one that organized it as they’re looking to charge him with two counts of sexual assault. Makes this video all the more jarring
I saw Mcleod’s mom at the Leafs game this past November when they played the Devils! She seems really sweet, She was wearing Mike’s alternate Devils jersey.
This is literally what it is like, not just for Mitch but for any AAA player or junior A player. All of the best players have psychotic parents - ones that yell, scream, swear, or walk out of games. It’s the disappointment afterwards that is the worst - hockey parents are so passive aggressive. Good is never good enough. Sometimes, like in these cases, even excellence isn’t enough. 1 goal a game isn’t enough. 2 goals a game isn’t enough. I know from personal experience.
I played AAA for a year (just a bit older than Mitch here) and it was a very disorienting. My skillset was a bit lopsided, e.g., I was one of the best and fastest skaters on the team but my stick-handling was below average (basically I skated a bit too fast when i got the puck; years later I learned Brett Hull had a similar problem coming up and had to train himself to put the breaks on whenever he got the puck). I was being cultivated as a defensive forward and a good penalty killer. The problem was, the parents of several of the other kids were obsessed with their individual stats rather than the overall performance of the team (didn't matter if we lost as long as little Jason or whoever had a good scoring record to show off to the Junior scouts). Some of these kids were Pavel Bure types who would only hussle in the opposing team's end. I remember being blamed for some kid not scoring every game and this kid's dad talking shit to my dad. It was kind of nasty. Anyway, nobody from that team went beyond Junior B to my knowledge.
Mrs. McLeod seems like such a sweetheart. If her son is guilty of what he's charged, it's shocking and all the more sad. Seems like he was raised in a great home.
I volunteered as a trainer and assistant coach when my son played house league not that long ago. Even at that low level of hockey there were parents who would be freaking out all the time.
Shame on Marner's Dad. No matter the outcome of making the NHL or not; a kid should not be sworn at because the father himself could not achieve that much. Let kids be kids and dont live through them!
Shame on you. Dad's should hold kids to high standards I'm 13 and If I don't scorage against an AA team because I'm a top player and playing AAA next year he says I suck ass or I'll never make it anywhere
don't know much about Crosby's or Mcdavid's dad but i do know about Walter Gretzky and that he was a positive influence and would gladly autograph and take pics with kids at events also
McDavids dad was guaranteed worse. Dead give away to an over bearing father is a child with no emotion or personality. Ie..John Tavares, Connor McDavid, Mitch Marner,
He couldn't even carry his son's bag for him after the game because he didnt want to spill his drink. The hockey bag was bigger than Mitch for crying out loud!
I am a AAA player parent. I always repeat to my son "you have to WORK HARD to have a chance to achieve something but if you are not interested then just give up and try to do something that you really want instead of wasting YOUR time.
I was so lucky growing up and my parents just let me play. If I had a bad game my dad would just work with me to get better. He would never yell at me like that. Some parents are just assholes.
I feel bad for Mitch. The way his Dad pushed him led to him being a 1st round pick in the OHL Draft, multiple 100 pt seasons in the OHL and being a 1st round pick in the NHL draft.....
Paul Marner (and his insane contract demands) single-handedly took down this supposed Golden Generation of Leafs. It’s a damn shame for everyone...except for Mitch and his Dad. 💰
@@benyang2427 I don't have a subscription to the Athletic, has the 2nd one from 2024 been reposted anywhere I could access? If not it's totally cool, but thank u for responding to my comment
You caught that eh? lol Those scenes in the arena (and later in the car) could've been from a scripted TV show/movie. That's the type of "show don't tell/actions speak louder than words" subtley and subtext that makes for good dramatized media lol
can someone tell his dad that until mitch learns to take a decent slapshot, he's not earning more than 9m a season. does he think he's better than kucherov or something?
Kuch should make 10.5 or 11, but he took less due to no state income tax in Florida. Mitch should demand more money since Ontario and Canada takes a ton from him.
@@JHockeyFan Mitch is in no position to demand anything since he's an RFA. He will be moved for 4 firsts if his petty childlike father doesn't hold his mouth
This is why it is so hard to sign to sign this kid, parents... what a shame these parents can't do something themselves and living your life thru your child's success, Paul marner sucks. What a shame.....
Mitch Marner is an NHL star for Toronto Maple Leafs. Mcleod boys not there yet, Michael is just hitting the AHL (2nd tier for the NJ Devils) and Ryan is in the draft for this year and he's projected to be a late first round pick. Matt Mcleod is in college hockey and went undrafted.
Whether a kid plays hockey for fun and/or aspires to play college or pro, I sincerely believe this sport brings out the best in him or her. Hockey teaches kids structure, hard work, develop thick skin, compassion for others, and brotherhood (and of course sisterhood for the girls). Also, hockey players seem to be the most well mannered, respectful, athletes and humble too.
Funny thing hockey paid the a large portion of the salary of Wendy, Peter and everyone else at the CBC (along with taxpayers) so complaining about cost is ironic
Haha that would make for some good schadenfruede wouldn’t it. Sadly no. Mitch is in the NHL and is arguably a top 5 player at his position. Worse, Paul Marner made an absolute ass of himself during the contract negotiations when Mitch’s ELC was finished.
Sadly no. Both of these kids were first round picks and Marner himself is one of the top wingers in the NHL. That said, Marner is as good as he is because he’s Mitch Marner. Not because of the pressure Paul Marner put him under. Kid had the talent to make the league regardless.
Oh so crazy! We all know parents can cross the line no question! But when you are investing 10s of thousands of dollars a year at that level people want to make sure that the investment(kids) :( are actually out there playing not out for a Sunday skate
Found Paul Marner’s burner account. Kids are not a fucking investment. This kind of parenting tends to cause kids to burn out more than help them. I know because I’ve seen it first hand with teammates.