HoI4 Guide: Manchukuo into Qing China - No Step Back 

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7:08 Factory output does not, in fact, increase your civilian factory construction speed. It exclusively makes your military factories work better. Construction speed is its own thing, despite how confusing it may sound.

The reason why it's hard for Manchukuo is because some people go too fast or they skip things that we overlook

Wow, I've been watching your Achievments guides videos for a week now and you've made me want to play HoI4 (which had put me off, I'm a big EU4 and CK player), especially with your guide to restoring imperial China. I just watched your entire beginner's guide and searched in the search bar for "Bitt3rsteel Qing hOI4" and I see that there are two videos, one of which was released 40 minutes ago! That's a sign!

I love that you're doing old achievements in no step back, it's really handy

12:01 Fun fact Semyonov is one of the person who scammed Puyi in warlord era i believe he asked him 5000 british pound as for return to get Puyi back in power, but it didnt end well........

Everyone: Manchukuo is impossible Bitt3rsteel: Hold my lawnmower 4.0 body trimmer

I have done all achievments but still watch your guides because they are so entertaining

bittersteel: preparation is key also bittersteel: proceeds to not even consider grand battleplan

Suggestion: Sinkiang unifies China AND all the turkic nations (Turkestan). Theoretically it is possible for it to do both but I have yet to see it do that. Perhaps you should start by unifying Turkestan then China as that is harder

"Apparently, you guys think this is too difficult or impossible..." Sooo where are the ppl asking for Al-Andulus back then?

The man, the myth, the legend, bitter steele back at it again with the quality content 👌👏

Do Byzantium for No Step Back plz. Have been trying for months now. Haven't even conquered Turkey.

Never thought Bitt3rSteel would do an ad for manscape lol

At this point RU-vid is trolling. 0:00 "Guys, Bit of steel here." 1:05 "Nixon cuts" 2:10 "Harlem Young" and "some young Y" 5:05 "God, Ben, Chuck was really bad off with banditry wanting veto." 10:18 "Manko" Mengkukuo 11:59 "Falcon housing" and "Siemian off" 12:52 "Toyota artillery" 13:03 "cool June template" 17:59 "And let's also get the attention of the trans Bicol host" 18:54 "It still looks like Mexico is wide open if we react quickly enough." Hmm 19:56 "Coco" Mengkukuo 20:27 "hygiene" RU-vid is trying to say something 20:34 "manually declare war on Mexico" What the heck RU-vid 20:55 "extreme militarization" Hmm 30:45 "except for one sheet" Bruh the disrespect just because Guangxi Clique said no 30:58 "Liz Holmgren" Sounds like Sherlock Holmes's distant cousin 33:19 "99% horse capitulation"

*Edit: I wrote all this based on my tendency to try and rush down Japan quicker than Bitt3rSteel does, before the Japan/Soviet border war* Things I'd add despite being far from a "pro" player, just because I really like the Qing China path and have played it multiple times since NSB: -You could just restart if you get bad RNG on your first (and ideally only) bandit raid since it's not even a year into the game and there is around a 50/50 chance of getting a raid that doesn't really harm you -One of the first things you should do is drill your army up to 25XP and get Professional Officer Corps to start accruing Command Power for the Japanese Arms Depots decisions. If you take it early enough you can have exactly enough to promote Xiqia into a Field Marshal and max out the Arms Depot plan, which gives you a huge temporary bonus and a bunch of equipment you can pop any time you need to. Your Command Power generation is abysmal at the start so shoring it up really helps. Changing to State Serves The Military after you've improved War Support would be fine, but I find you get all the Political Power you need for the factory decision without it. -If you go down the path of quashing the bandits by stationing your army, you could have enough units that Five Equal Peoples becomes viable if you throw Support Artillery and an Artillery Battalion on the Qu Jun template and crank out a few of them/convert a few units into them. But beware getting the Grigori advisor if it would push you below 50% Stability if you do this -Rushing Assertiveness and down to Purge the General Affairs Council is also perfectly fine, since I think the Japanese become motivated to give you more equipment the more autonomous you are, which won't matter at all when you declare war via focus -German support isn't really that worth it to devote Focus time you could be spending on the British/American Air stuff, especially since you eventually lose von Falkenhausen as an Advisor despite keeping him as a General. British/American air focuses are all around more worth it in my opinion, especially since if you do them both you get a pretty decent airforce. -It's shocking how little research you need to beat the Japanese and Warlords. Going full Industry focuses and getting the other bonuses from American, British, Soviet and German support while ignoring the research focuses is totally doable, especially with the free airforces you get from the British, American and Arms Depots focuses -If all you're going for is the achievements, you could honestly just push to defensible terrain in China after taking Port Arthur and Korea and let Nationalist China bleed themselves dealing with Japan in the south. It can have the added benefit of having Communist China turn on the Nationalists during the war and subsequently get stomped by the United Front so you don't need to worry about the Communists joining the Comintern later

been watching since u had 6k subs, glad to see uve grown

Bittersteel, I just wanted to say thank you for all your various HOI4 videos! I've never been a huge fan of the HOI series, but you've gotten me into it. I've been playing Manchukuo for about 2-3 days now on Ironman, trying to pull off this strategy. I've dropped SO many games in frustration, but my present game is starting to pan out. I've learned so much just from watching you play. Thank you!

Bitt3rSteel the great! Thank you so much, I was struggling a lot with this challenge, now I can make it happen. Always checking if there's a guide that you made whenever I want to do something in game. Keep it going Legend!

Finally i can get some more achivements, thank you bitt3rsteel

ah yes "Bit of steel" Thank you mysterious translator

i really got sad when we got a sponsership for shaving balls

Great guide! Playing in China really forces you to learn more about the new supply system

Great guide! I already got the achievement in NSB, only major differences i noticed was i went with proper heritage for the spirit of the army for the cavalry and supply bonuses and five equal peoples focus instead of the other one to switch to war economy before the war and also combat bonuses on core territory.

Am i the only one who didnt know that rivers connect supply hubs?

Not sure if it has been patched, but I used to use a specific tactic to immediately take out Menguko when they join the war against me. Just park some divisions in their country (area defense doesn't work, I learned that the hard way) and leave them in their country after declaring independence. When they join the war they will instantly capitulate. Then mop up the Japanese divisions, invade Korea and Dailan and the war is over.

I've been trying to hunt this achievement for weeks now and no other guides have helped me XD So let's hope this one works, love your content by the way

FINALLY, after so many tries and failing everytime, a guide for manchukuo!! Finally i can the acheivement!

always a pleasure to see u uploaded a new video

Love your vids bro. There really relaxing and helpful!

Hey, nice guide as always :) Will you do a "Sinkiang conquers China and forms the Turkic Nation" guide while you are here?

Man, I love the content! Keep it up Bitt3r!

Everytime I get done playing hoi4 and I think I'll put it down for awhile, then you release another video and it pulls me right back in. It's a love hate relationship.

Thanks for these new guides, your the best.

Japan : Our army is unstoppable! Manchuko : better regret it

8:52 I think that proper heritage is better, for the bonuses on core states and, you know… since china is our core state Edit: I said stupid sh1t, u don’t have cores until u hit the “Qing China button”. Feel kinda stupid rn…

Hey bitter, wanted to ask: are you gonna do Not Much Fun In Stalingrad and that achievement for building a railway from Gibraltar to Singapore? It would really be helpful.

İt's just that probably most of us get very excited when we see you post a video :D

Thanks for the guide! I'll definitely try another Manchu run once I get a proper PC ^^

Never thought a man who could overthrow the strongest empires with his strategic thinking would try to sell me shaver for balls

My fav nation is manchuria and you revisting it made my day !

I know I'm a bit late but I loved the video, thanks Bitt3rSteel. I managed to get the achievement by following your guide up until your peace deal with Japan. I took out china first, then after Japan puppeted China, took them out again (the peace deal can fire as many times as you kick the Japanese out of china), and with that, I was able to get it. While waiting to integrate my puppets, I also joined the allies in the fight to end Japan and Germany, it was a good time.

Amazing tutorials. Most of them even work without dlc. I unified china as communists without dlc thanks to your guides. Thank you!

hey bittersteel, big fan of jazz and you here. i heard a jazzed up version of we'll meet again at the beginning of your video, followed by upbeat jazz, do you have a playlist or a source where i can get these for myself?

I recently got this achievement and the dragon swallowed the sun using your first hail to the Qing guide. And it was painful. Very painful.

Will you check out Nepal? They got insane Special Forces Boni.

Tried this out last night and it was surprisingly easy! Great work on this guide. Rushing those supply hubs in China makes Japan collapse extremely fast.

One of my fav small country when I've started to play that game.

I just played Manchukuo like 2 hours ago. Intresting coincidence. Btw, it was on non-historical and shit went down very fast.

Bruv do formable nations with the current version of the game this is Golden I especially loved your Croatian austro-hungarian empire good stuff much love

Hearing the genuine exasperation in your voice whenever you talk about supply is a perfect metaphor for how it feels to play NSB, it's a good feature but man does it make you want to gouge out your eyes eyes sometimes

You are mostly correct consumer goods does in fact calculate based off civs and mills, but also dockyards i don't believe you had any at the time but just food for thought.

You can create underground factories after taking local arms production and then switch it off at the start of the war and suddenly you get all the reliability back and have the same number of guns

I don’t even watch these for the guides. I just watch for Bitter.

Your guides are awesome! by any chance you plan on doing an updated one for Anarchist Spain?

You can retake entire China by 1939 which gives you 2 years to prepare for Japan. 1. - First you should research Gun 2, do not screw with the gun production you already have, make a second production line of the same gun 1, you will switch this to gun 2, your original gun 1 will keep producing because it already has maximum efficiency, if bandits destroy your military factory, you must restart or save load. (You can copy the ironman save in your save folder after it autosaves and name it the date it autosaved to, and then if you want to reload that save, copy your ironman save and rename it back to "ironman manchuria" or whatever, keep your other copy) Also, you must save 35 military XP start of the game, delete your entire army, and train one division constantly until you get 4 imperial guards, start building army, you want to use 35 XP to get high command bonus "State serves the military" for extra political power boost, its very important you get it or else you must restart. 2. - Start rushing towards Bolster Nationalism focus day one, you must not hunt or pacify the bandits, this is 9 free level 2 cavalry divisions you get for free and will be used for Korea supported by two or four good divisions later. After you done Bolster Nationalism, you should rush focus to get 4 military factories ASAP, you must keep production high. Remember to save your command points, only get military advisor for 0.30 military XP a day, nothing else, you need CP to take raid Japanese supplies, preferably you want 3 times to raid, this gives you free 10k guns, 500 artillery, if you do 4 or 5 times you get 150 planes and 15k infantry equipment + some bad light tanks that are useless but you waste time waiting for 4 or 5 times. 3. - After you research gun 2 you must make sure to research industry, ignore construction tech its useless to you in beginning, you must increase production and make sure to get dispersed industry and efficiency tech (concentrated is bad, its really bad, only concentrated tech 5 is beneficial but unless you plan to produce a single type of equipment for the entire game, never get it) 4. - When you get 4 x 7/2 imperial guards infantry, you must not change the template, leave this template alone, duplicate it if you want to make your other infantry into this, these 4 infantry divisions are level 5 veterans! They are super powerful and you should not waste them like an idiot! For military tech you should get grand battleplan, do not waste on superior firepower, also do not use it on mass assault even if mass assault is best in the game, its only good when fully achieved, grand battleplan has day one reduction of supply use for military high command, take it! Its important. 5. - After you do this, you only need to take improve worker conditions once, I suggest you must at least have 10 - 15 infantry 20 width or larger on front of Japanese-China, send elite guards to take Arthur port, then send your cavalry to Korea, your Guards should be sent to Korea afterwards, ideally you also have some pure 10 width infantry to put on ports, this way you do not waste too much equipment, Japan never have enough strength in 1938 or early 1939 to naval invade with a big force, when you take Korea, you must rush Korea fast! Force attack if necessarily, you must rush the port, Japan will pour divisions into Korea and destroy you. When you start the war, you must join Chinese faction to be part of white peace, sometimes the white peace bug out and Japan retain land in China and Korea, this is bug, restart or use Xit engine to fix it because Paradox are lazy and this bug existed for 3 years now. Japan is suppose to give you Menguko and China gets Japanese-China, you get Arthur and Korea becomes independent. If you do not join faction, Japan will not white peace you, and this will make war with China much harder. 6. - While you also focus on Korea, you must focus on Japanese-China, here you must make sure to take their only two ports, and also make sure to take Mengukuo capital ASAP and also destroy their supply hubs near Beijing, this will allow Japanese China to collapse right away. If you do all of this very quickly, I suggest not to wait later than mid 1938 because Japan gets extremely strong very quickly for tiny Chinese nation like you, do not bother naval invade Japan, I tried it many times even with 14/4's, you will be destroyed, even if you launch successful naval invasion before declaring war and you land 12 divisions, its not enough, you lack supply and Japanese divisions are too strong. After you kick Japan out of China and Korea and Chinese faction which you are in, white peace, you should now do friendship with Britain focus and friendship with america, to get good bonuses, then, only after you do both friendship focuses, you can go assimilate warlords and get cores on Chinese territory, if you do cores first, Britain focus will be locked, impossible to get 100 diplomatic score with them because you claim Hong Kong, do not do until after! After you puppet most of Chinese warlords, you should start preparing for war with China right away already in 1939 and declare ASAP, China is weak but if you give time, they will become stronger. When you beat China which is usually very quick because they have too many fronts to cover, you should start to prepare for war with Japan, this is easy, spam out many good divisions with artillery, plan naval invasion on Japan, use naval invasion exploit to get as many divisions as possible and prepare wargoal on Japan, after you declare, do one speed and send naval invasion, when time goes by 1 hour, you deselect entire naval invasion, delete their orders, then select other squad of 10 or 20 depending on your technology, to send to the next invasion order, watch one hour go by and repeat this, you want like 60 or 80 divisions to invade Japan, Japanese fleet will take long time to intercept you, you want to do this, before Japan enters any other wars before 1941. Some of your troops will be killed, this is price to pay but thankfully, Qing China have many manpowers and you worry not about losses but you worry that you can micro 80 divisions landing in Japan fast, because you must destroy Japan quickly, alternative you can invade Korea if they are independent, make airbase and use paratroopers to land in Japan, but this method means you spend more IC on planes and paratroopers must be good to not get killed, alternative you can do both if you have time.

This was awesome

Love the videos 100%

My country on fire right now, but you still make me feel better, thx)

This is exactly what I I’ve been waiting for this is exactly….

been trying this in BBA and all 3 of my runs have resulted in japan peacing out with china but staying at war with me, making expansion into china nearly impossible because of the unending naval invasions in the eastern front. why?

ive been finish this achievment by looking for japan to turn comunist, and by far that was easiest method for manchukuo

8:55. I think with any Chinese warlord especially the manchuko proper heritage is great for supply

Happy Weekend for you guys :D

you are my favourite youtuber! PLEASE DO A VIDEO ABOUT CONQUERING CSINA AS SHANXI!

Oh joy, another video, shame it's 1.20am. No sleep for me.

Hello, I am from Russia and I Think u are wery cool boy, I love your guides and with your help I get many achivement😍

This is definately a nice fun challenge to do in the game and you have to wait until the japanese declare war on china or hope they start a civil war

Why am I just finding out now that supply hubs can be connected by a river???

That kiwi sure looked great!

I almost managed to do it but I didn't have any way of getting to the Japanese mainland which I knew was basically unprotected so I joined the allies funnily enough, and just stopped playing since I didn't know if I should declare war on Chinese united front because I was scared I would get kicked from allies.

Love the videos

Wish you would have mentioned the possibility of China taking the peace deal alone earlier. Spent 4 hours playing and then China gave Japan back everything

My favorite minor! Thank you, man, that was really interesting

26:30 I would pull back a few of those 21 widht divisions... Not that the supply would be any better (there still was no supply hub), but having them all piled up like that isn't helping.

Hey Bitter, are you going to do the BFTB formables(Makedonian Empire, Byz, Turan, Ottos) in the current patch? I keep having trouble doing those due to supply issues

I did my first run as qinq in nsb to be honest it should be way way easier in nsb because of semyov advisor that bonus against major is made for world domination.

Have you done the achievement that requires reforming the Central Powers with Imperial Germany and Austria-Hungary as Turkey (meaning the other two need to be formed by the AI)?

Thanks chief

It's funny, I do enjoy playing Manchukuo but I actually find them to be extremely easy. Japan is easy to capitulate with paratroopers dropped from Korea when you stab them in the back and if they have pushed back ROC a lot then China will be weak and disorganized, you can plow through territory before they can even form solid defensive lines. I also never pacify the countryside, I let the bandits run rampant for a while so I can recruit them later, you don't sacrifice guns and you get free soldiers. Manchukuo's industrial base is worthless in the beginning anyways no matter what you do so if buildings get damaged then it won't hurt that much. I disagree with building that supply hub in Jehol, let the Japanese military get far away from Mengkukuo as they advance into China and blitz some cavalry straight for the Mengkukuo capitol. Build a railway right to the border, you only need to advance 3 tiles to get their supply hub. If they manage to get a unit or two into the capitol to defend it, encircle it with a few units and whittle them down, it will hurt but much less than all the time spent on that supply hub.

I got some weird glitch where China was still at war with Japan even after the scripted peace deal and it came down to the peace deal after I capitulated china. Second time I lost an achievement to the peace deal 😭

Is it just me, or after BBA does the united front REALLY like getting it's teeth kicked in? Trying to follow the guide and Japan already had the whole coast by the time I fired the war off. Took until december of 1941 to finally drive them off, but now the white peace won't happen! Tried to see if the issue was Siam joining the war, but going back to an earlier save and just wiping all of japan's units to test still resulted in the white peace not triggering. Is this a bug anyone else has noticed?

They will give you a lot of guns. So we can then turn on them 😂 Top 10 anime betrayals.

I tried it three times but i just dont get the WP Event with Japan. I clear all japanese territories on the continent and then japan signs whitepeace with china but I am still at war with japan and dont get the event, any help?

One of the first times I played Hoi4 I tried to make the Qing Empire but of course, Japan declared on the Soviets before I could break free. ( I didn’t know how to build or train divisions I didn’t know how to build guns AND I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO GROUP TROOPS!!! )

before this video i belive Qing was impossible to play but now i realize than i rush WAAAAAAY to early, without being prepare for a war, also would be great to get thos european ports back with desitions,

can you do byzantium or macedonian empire again because with the updates in combat and attrition it changes the strategy of how you should attack turkey

"Family jules" Its FAMILY, and FAMILY shares everything ;)

Manscaped: WE SAVE BALLS

Hey great video, but I wanted to ask how you got the flag... I searched forums and couldn't find an answer. What I mean is that my Chinese Empire has still the Manchu flag as well as other formable nations I form... What's the problem? is it the game or something else?

10:05 Ah so supply hubs can be connected by rivers?? Didn't know that

I was hoping you'd show how to get the achievement for killing Japan as Manchukuo afterwards. Any tips on that?

Theory: Factory Output does NOT affect Civs. I tested that by doing the following: - Picked Nicaragua as the country I wanna play as - Without any research I put one civ in the production line. 1929 days to complete. I let a day go by, 1928 days left. - I activated the cheat “research_on_icon_click” and clicked on all concentrated industry research - removed the civ in the queue and repeated the process. From earlier. - Still 1928 days - Same has been done with dispersed industry afterwards My Conclusin: Due to no change whatsoever in construction speed or days till completion, it is safe to assume that factory output does not affect building speed of civilian factories.

Aww yeah!! I already have it sadly. Mexico would be great if you're listening to suggestions!

Bro the hardest thing is trying not to fall asleep while you are annexing your puppets

the sponsored part was actually not boring

Could you please do “Huge-slavia” again? The old method is not working to me. The french take down their guarantee every time i justify on Romania

It seems like after the raid the armory buff wears off the japanese will just sweep me aside.. I couldn't push and then they just naval invaded dalian, and pushed my entrenched troops out with 9/1 infantry. The only run I pushed them out they didn't give me a white peace..

Cool guide. Thanks. Couldn't you have justified on Korea during your war with China, which would cause them to join that faction? Then you'd be able to take them as well without going to war with any other factions.

I would really like to see a tutorial for regular china again, because i as a new player struggle with it a lot :3