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HOI4: Strongest Italy opening: Rush the Allies in BBA 

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There's quite a few Italy videos out there already, but here is my opening strat for Italy updated for By Blood Alone. This opening strategy will set you up for any conquest you want and almost every political path (the communists probably don't work for this one). So yeah, you can set yourself up for all the new italian achievements with this opening!
Following this guide will get you the UK, France, USA and all of UK's dominions as puppets as early as 1938.
Music is again from Age of Wonders.

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@EnduringGamer
@EnduringGamer Год назад
Superaereo or any focus that requires war with major should not cancel when the war concludes victorious. Having to prolong a war for a "lesson of war" does not make too much sense.
@antasil5768
@antasil5768 Год назад
I agree!
@King_Shoto
@King_Shoto Год назад
They should add a tick box "has been at war with a major" rather than "be at war with a major".
@hunterkingofworl
@hunterkingofworl Месяц назад
I never would've thought to just naval invade the UK like that, I appreciate this video, I went from having my ass kicked by the allies to defeating the british empire in 37, you're awesome, now I can somewhat play italy now
@antasil5768
@antasil5768 Месяц назад
Excellent, good to hear!
@eisbergsyndrom5010
@eisbergsyndrom5010 Год назад
Tip: when puppeting India you should unselect one of their states so the original RAJ tag remains independent and a new India is created as your puppet. That new India won't have any national spirits, allowing it full access to it's huge manpower pool.
@Old_Harry7
@Old_Harry7 Год назад
Excited to see the sequel! Nice work there.
@MatthewZzzz0
@MatthewZzzz0 Год назад
Another excellent guide
@vauxal1856
@vauxal1856 Год назад
hey bro i followed this guide and proceeded to do world conquest
@alpacasmafia9265
@alpacasmafia9265 Год назад
I've been struggling trying to go for a couple italian achievements (3 romes, holy roman and empire, and Pizza Time) and this strategy sets all those up perfectly!
@alperensahan9856
@alperensahan9856 Год назад
great work again :)
@antasil5768
@antasil5768 Год назад
Thanks again!
@Stouzough
@Stouzough Год назад
Great opening: Italy world conquest is still definitely a lot of fun. Just surprised you don't take the British and French fleets, but rather prefer them to support you as puppets. I don't know your plans next, but I'd like to see other strategies with democratic France and mobile warfare, something I can succeed with but only in 1942-1943 (hence without the Little Entente path you already wonderfully advised).
@namkang6525
@namkang6525 Год назад
Cool vid man
@antasil5768
@antasil5768 Год назад
Thanks!
@radeq
@radeq Год назад
Hi, nice strategy, just few questions: 1) wouldnt it be better to take the british/french/US fleet in peace deal? You would have the biggest in the world. 2) also, resource rights in your puppets (eg. british malaya, or US for their oil) 3) what I also like, is to create a lot of smaller puppets especially in Africa, they get their focus trees and spam factories
@antasil5768
@antasil5768 Год назад
Good suggestions: @1: yeah thats possible, but then I'd have to manage those fleets too. The puppets can handle them. @2: I haven't really looked that closely at resource rights, but this is probably a good idea :-) 3: I don't really like puppet spam as they tend to slow down the game. Also, you snowball so fast those few factories there matter very little.
@radeq
@radeq Год назад
@@antasil5768 Thanks for reply, just tried some Italian strategies but this one of yours looks like it works best.
@SBragg88
@SBragg88 Год назад
Italy's got such a big tree I really didn't know which branch to choose; I don't have all the DLC's yet, however, so some of the decisions are political ones in the absence of the correct DLC's; is my understanding. Interested to see what you do here :)
@KilroyNoBrain
@KilroyNoBrain Год назад
Looking forward to the second part and the spanish conquest of america
@Stouzough
@Stouzough Год назад
Hello, me again :) You know, I tried again to follow your guide, but it's so hard to give up the Ethiopian & Spanish wars, and even to kill the production of BC :D Oh well, I like that you included some comments, for those wanting to fork your strategy with same efficiency. I'm just puzzled by Germany: recently I often see they declare on the Soviet Union but with no border with them: they forgot to invade Poland. Invading Austria and the rest of Eastern Europa creates a glitch.
@antasil5768
@antasil5768 Год назад
Germany does the focus 'war with the USSR' a lot earlier, I believe because they are locked out of Anschluss and they have to do something. Then, they do not feel threatened by the soviets because they do not share a border and they declare. Thats my theory anyway.
@rglynch
@rglynch Год назад
I'm not getting 50% naval supremacy on the British coast. It's hovering in the 40s. Any tips? My fighters cant range that zone for air superiority either and some of my planes don't have the naval strike mission set.
@antasil5768
@antasil5768 Год назад
It's tricky sometimes. I almost always get that naval supremacy in the first hours of the war. It can drop below fifty after that, but it usally comes back once the UK starts moving the fleet around.
@WitcherLover-pd9ye
@WitcherLover-pd9ye Год назад
Probably late but still, you can use paratroopers. First capture france 8 victory points from allied territory(to avoid air supremacy battle) and then use paratroopers again from allied land(germany for example(most of the times)) on UK harbors make like 3 divisions on different harbors and 5 on the land near other harbors(to wait when defenders get away to easily capture it) also you can manually order ships to swim close to UK coast to see if there are anyone defending port(harbor) Also before that prepare main army to stay on your ports so they can quickly get on UK territory cause paratroopers cant hold ports for even small time
@ZarkinDrife
@ZarkinDrife Год назад
finally got around to doing this and thanks so much. I did things a bit late and ran out of time on some of the focuses so its nov 39 when war with USA ended. Germany for some reason went to war with soviets in 38 despite no border with soviets so at least I can let them fight before I gobble them up. Trying to go pope path but BoP 50% on the right so gotta somehow get it down so I can get rid of the Duce haha.
@CarvaxIV
@CarvaxIV Год назад
You need to get rid of the Duce before you start spamming war. Every victory you get shoots the BoP to the right.
@vedeeski
@vedeeski Год назад
I cant get enough naval supermacy for invading uk, even tough i have 75% naval intel etc
@patsycards
@patsycards 7 месяцев назад
What soundtrack did you use for this video?
@AlphiumProductions
@AlphiumProductions Год назад
Boggles my mind that you don’t have more subscribers
@antasil5768
@antasil5768 Год назад
Same here man..... :-(
@Chorutowo
@Chorutowo Год назад
Great Strategy! Do you think that this would work in MP or some version of this?
@antasil5768
@antasil5768 Год назад
In MP this is probably banned by some rule. But if not, you can easily team up with the Germans this way.
@Chorutowo
@Chorutowo Год назад
@@antasil5768 Yeah I'd assume so, but the trolling possibility is golden
@un-coglione-nostalgico
@un-coglione-nostalgico Год назад
I have one question: a few hours ago I was playing as Italy going to get the pope but I arledy invaded Austria France and capitulated Britain but was still at war whit the US now I didn't lose any territory and the support for the council grew randomly and I went into a Civil War do you know why?
@antasil5768
@antasil5768 Год назад
As far as I know support for the council doesn't grow randomly. However, losing territory doesn't always give a popup, while it does eat away support. I had a civil war in my pope run because I lost territories in africa to Portugal and the ports of hong kong etc to Japan....
@un-coglione-nostalgico
@un-coglione-nostalgico Год назад
@@antasil5768 yeah after commenting that I remembered that France has some small islands near the US so they probably took those kinda stopid this should be only if you lose cores nice vid btw
@rps215
@rps215 Год назад
Losing colonies (including those ones you got from annexing others) pushes you 5 points to the left, while losing cores will push you 20 points plus add some ticking point push to the left as well. I think you need to get away from Council of Fascism ASAP and get them replaced with the Pope instead to prevent that, which is by taking the focus Get Papal Support which gets rid of that.
@Stouzough
@Stouzough Год назад
@@antasil5768 this will be nerfed in 1.12.5: losing territory will not have as much impact in future. But thanks for reminding to protect North Africa, I didn't have any problem in my run. I saw one where UK was invading Sardigna though, so we must be careful with that
@antasil5768
@antasil5768 Год назад
@@Stouzough Personally I'm not too bothered with that BOP thing, you should always guard your territories ;-)
@ZarkinDrife
@ZarkinDrife Год назад
thanks for this, gonna use this to hopefully get all Italian achievements except communist one in one game. are you able to get mil access from germany If your fact since for the Austria achievement Im pretty sure you can't be in a faction with germany at any point in the run?
@antasil5768
@antasil5768 Год назад
well I actually got that achievement using this strat. I'm pretty sure I wasn't supposed to get it that way, but I did. I did take over Axis leadership, kick out germany, conquered and annexed them....
@ZarkinDrife
@ZarkinDrife Год назад
@@antasil5768 oh, well i think i wont take the chances since wanna try and get themm all in the same game. Is it worth rushing ethiopia before he boards the train or is it not that bad if you just keep rye on the BoP?
@Stouzough
@Stouzough Год назад
@@ZarkinDrife Hi, a bit late: I also couldn't join the axis at first, so just improve the relations and after a few weeks they'll accept and you can use their ports. As for Ethiopia, give up early or fight aggressively: in both cases the BoP doesn't start so you won't need to care.
@sahilhossain8204
@sahilhossain8204 Год назад
Hmm yes lore of Hoi4 italy runs momentum 100
@johngalt5166
@johngalt5166 Год назад
This is a great strat, is Mussolini the best leader tho? Or would doing the alternate fascist paths be worth it?
@antasil5768
@antasil5768 Год назад
I'd need a spreadsheet for a full answer. But there are a LOT of extra traits for leaders and I believe mussoline can get the most.
@jamesflynn6827
@jamesflynn6827 Год назад
It's not 70 days it's 185 days till the emperor does board the train, wich makes the capitulation entirely doable, the easiest way is to just go full in, spike the escalation to 2 or 3. Choose the by any means necessary decision at 15 days spike the escalation by to 2, then dissolve some of your units in Italy to fill the frontline troops and bring the rest to Ethiopia wich spikes to 3 make sure to keep the airwings in Ethiopia under the limit as to not go to 4 escalation. And then use the tanks because they can't be pierced that makes you able to cap Ethiopia within the time limit.
@antasil5768
@antasil5768 Год назад
yup, that 70 days appears to be a mistake. Thanks for the addition!
@poprostukaktus
@poprostukaktus Год назад
also i did this way befor tutorial but dont pick the first focus and wait for 15 political power so u can end ethiopia war faster and loose less atrition
@SmashingCapital
@SmashingCapital Год назад
YOU DIDNT TAKE THE NAVY
@SmashingCapital
@SmashingCapital Год назад
You get cores on britain and the whole of northern africa with mare nostrum man
@SmashingCapital
@SmashingCapital Год назад
BROO YOU DIDNT TAKE THEIR FLEET
@zorawarsinghghuman8911
@zorawarsinghghuman8911 Год назад
Which all dlc are you using ?
@antasil5768
@antasil5768 Год назад
I use all of them, always :-)
@itsyurx7316
@itsyurx7316 Год назад
switzerland next!
@poprostukaktus
@poprostukaktus Год назад
what is the template?
@antasil5768
@antasil5768 Год назад
The starting template was used in the invasion of the UK. I built AA and researched recon but never bothered to add them ;-)
@poprostukaktus
@poprostukaktus Год назад
@@antasil5768 also i have a problem with naval supremacy i couldnt invade uk , ill probably restart it but do you have any tips
@radeq
@radeq Год назад
@@poprostukaktus Have the same problem, but in my second run I figured it out, you definitely need spy network in UK and have naval department in your spy agency researched. (also could infiltrate UK navy). Also Put your main fleet on strike force and submarines on convoy raiding.
@poprostukaktus
@poprostukaktus Год назад
@@radeq thank you so much
@Stouzough
@Stouzough Год назад
@@antasil5768 yes, I was suspecting so! MP would have been more convenient. Also I'll start another run this time with early African ministry focus: I think we can win the first Mussolini mission. After that it's super easy, especially if you already focus on fighters production.
@SmashingCapital
@SmashingCapital Год назад
AAAAAH YOU FORGOT HATAY
@rps215
@rps215 Год назад
If you want to conquer Ethiopia, I strongly suggest research MP first. Use the MXP to get that spirit of the army that gives you free design cost for cavalry and make the largest cavalry division with MP for your garrison. Create Italian East Africa ASAP because of that annoying balance of power will screw you over otherwise once you get to war with France and UK. I prefer to justify on France first, if you are confident to fight the war on two fronts like the other guy, then do that on Yugoslavia instead as you can immediately also eat Yugoslavia and Romania as well and potentially Czechoslovakia (sorry Hitler, no Austria and Sudetenland for you), but I can't. Getting the French navy is enough for you to secure naval supremacy on the English Channel. You don't need your navy anymore after that unless you get to war with Japan that is, because you can invade USA from Canada.
@Stouzough
@Stouzough Год назад
That's a nice tip for MP. I puppeted all my early wins, but then I couldn't finish world conquest before 1951 because all PP needed for annexing. As for BP I followed Antasil and didn't get any problem: you don't see BP at all until you search the Triumph in Africa focus, so why matter? As for the order, I like the order shown here because it works well: Ethiopia (easy to swallow), Austria and then UK. Make UK last while encircling London and you'll get all the Empire + any country that you declare upon (Netherlands, Portugal...) Then you can finish your air + navy + army focus improvements. Don't touch France/Belgium/Yougoslavia, as these can be made rightafter and don't need any navy effort
@SmashingCapital
@SmashingCapital Год назад
Make a tutorual for communist italy! Theres a path that basically gets you cores on the whole of africa if you control it
@antasil5768
@antasil5768 Год назад
yeah I'll do that! I'm into Italy now and I barely understand Ethiopia or Switzerland in depth enough for a video on that.
@billyzm
@billyzm Год назад
Bro you should really just take the navy as well, they are free ships :)
@admincat1621
@admincat1621 Год назад
You should take the navy and the rights
@antasil5768
@antasil5768 Год назад
yeah I could have done more with the peacedeal. Seeing several suggestions in the comments, so I'll include that in the next video!
@Stouzough
@Stouzough Год назад
@@antasil5768 you planted the seed: after it's just fine tuning (which is a lot of fun!). Ethiopia & Spanish wars are nice, also being patient while in the UK to declare many countries also pays off, but in the end there's not much changes: your doctrines are full well before 1941, you have a jet fighter well before 1939 and world conquest is super easy. But of course, revisiting the strategy, as you did in France, is great because we learn from wizards like you.
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