HOI4 Timelapse - What if Spain and Turkey joined the Axis in 1939? 

Came to comment this. It was chef's kiss level timing.

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@@TestTest-dd4qb Japanese

@@user-de7ne3ql9k Russian

@@jayden2966 Canadian

@@PugnaciousProductions Romanian

HOI4 give a lot of power to the Axis.

@@IceAlvaro13 nah its just the ai is dumb usually just build a level 5 for in mattouth and the problem is fixed

@@IceAlvaro13 and you have to coordinate well in north Africa

Italy in History: UK can you stop destroy my Navi da Guerra please? Italy in HOI4: Try and stop me barbaro anglo

I agree

turkey and spain are not minor

@Feuerpflanze according to HOI4 Wiki there are only 7 major powers in 1936, neither Turkey, or Spain are included.

@@fdlman93092 just look on turkeys focus tree

I wouldn't consider them minors just not major players in the war

Turkey and Spain just happen to be the most important and strategic minors in Europe.

Good suggestion! Adding it to the to-do list! :)

ireland would be more likely to join the allies then sweden would be

Yeah you're right. If Stalingrad is lost, the war is lost too. There's a reason why it's the biggest and the most important battle in history.

I agree.

You know that the Americans wanted to nuke Germany if the war keept on right ?

@@derkelch2228 If USSR surrendered Germany would focus on research more meaning they could develop nukes too

@@derkelch2228 This scenario would also convince italy not to change sides so even if USA nuked Germany there would be other axis members standing with now focusing on military

same thing would happen, turkey doesnt have a border with axis so they would have to attack them by landing, but they cant win against italian and german fleet, United Kingdom would still fall because turks did not play much role in it, also they dont have much troops and most of the troops are bad so 30 soldiers in soviet - axis border would change nothing.

@@CigliPuff You smart

@@CigliPuff WDYM they can get their troops on Soviet borders I never played the game but sometimes in time lapses ally countries land their troops on their ally borders

@@Mapper8703 what? Thats what i said? Turkey would probably still try defending their motherland but if they had some troops inside soviet union borders it would change nothing.

@@CigliPuff what I mean is turkey can attack Axis through the Soviet borders

yes frend stronk Trukey forver 🦾🇹🇷🤜🇬🇷 we will svae the wrold from Greks

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wow

You can watch those scenarios here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Y-pvWqrGbjY.html Here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lejE1lS-JZs.html And here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4fu54F3N3z0.html

make manchukou a british puppet and so on

list of stuff this senario is gonna change: .

if japan switched territory and ideologies with uk then japan will act like UK without proper focus tree and UK will act like japan without proper focus tree the UK will invade china, southeast asia and USA (oh wow!! wouldn't it be better if the UK focus tree is focused in asia?? oh wait there is something called JAPAN) japan will fight against the axis and barely survives on an island. The us would later use japan as the launching ground for d-day. (oh wow!!! wouldnt it be better if japan have a focus tree focused on europe??? oh wait there is something called UK)

the only reason the creator would do this senario is if he is desperate for video ideas and views

@@bestname6669 chill out man. wouldnt you be interested in such a scenario? oh well... maybe he doesnt do it anyway

will happen someday

@@Maltbyr what does it need to be

"New Adana" would be a nice name for Ex-Mexico.

@@ahmetgul8302 iyi tespit

Thank you! :)

Would be cool if the game had food

değişirdi bakü petrolleri olmasaydı Sovyetler uçak vrya tank kaldıramazdı ve kaybederlerdi Türkiyeye ondan dolayı 12 adalar musul kuzey suriye kafkasya verilmek istendi Türkiyenin konumu Axis için çok önemliydi

@@sabiraythekemalist hangi orduyla alacaktı orayı ? Ve zaten Rusya' nın başka yerlerinden de petrol çıkıyor ayrıca ABD de deli gibi gönderiyor. Bir de Irak'taki İngiliz faktörü var ki soluğu Adana da alırlardı 2 haftada

Because the idology was Empire inside the game

I would love to do scenarios with independent USA states, but sadly I haven't found any mods that work with 1.10.8 version of the game

No bro Turkey did

@@umutgezginug oh okay

Regia marina would have probably control the Mediterranean

You never know…

Turkey had a genius commanders at these time. In Turkish Independence war they beat up bigger armies. And in these years Turkey had Modernised army. Also Spain could prevent the D-day on the west

They could have. On paper they don't add much to the Axis, but their strategic locations are very useful. Spain would immediately take Gibraltar and cut-off the Allied fleet from the Mediterranean, this would save Italy's ass on the short term and give a significant advantage to the Axis on the North African front. The Suez canal would become the only viable way for the Allies in and out of the Mediterranean, with a stronger Axis on the West and a Turkey in the East, it would be possible that the Axis in this timeline would be able to shut the Mediterranean sea completely out of the Allied fleet. Turkey would also be able to strike the USSR through the south during Barbarossa and sieze the Caucasus oil fields, this was exactly the German goal with Fall Blau and the only hope of Axis survival in the long run. With Turkey on the Axis it would be possible to see an Axis victory on the eastern front, or at least a stalemate. It would then come down to the Western front. The American invasion of Italy would never happen, and Italy would be in a much stronger position. Invading Spain would be suicidal, the Spanish terrain is very harsh and the population would be very hostile, so Normandy would still be their best bet. So the question would be, could the Anglophone allies be able to pull off a successful D-day against a Germany which would have their Mediterranean front safe and covered a considerably easier Eastern Front, 100Milion more population and access to A LOT more fuel supplies. I can see a Galipoli 2.0 and the Western allies losing enough heart to tap out or resort to nukes. But nukes would not break Germany. They only broke Japan because Japan was literally already completely broken. If the Allies nuked Germany, it would only incentivize the Germans to develop their own nukes, which they could if given enough time and motivation. If the Axis were able to develop and use their nukes effectively it would be over. Both sides would be forced to agree to peace or it would lead to mutual destruction.

@@umutgezginug defensive war

That would have sucked for Turkey war is never good for a nation

@@onurvx5996 OK. But tell me, how do countries expand? With diplomacy and peace?!

@@yusufkonevi6803 Switzerland hasn’t been in war since Napoleonic Wars and they still are one of the richest nations in the world expansion is mostly unnecessary unless you want to rule the world

Kanka Türksün dimi

@@onurvx5996 Also, everything is not money, also you need borders to be important...

Based. I love Fascism