Holding Survivors Hostage For 1 HOUR... 

Have you ever played a 1 hour dbd match?

"I need to go in 15 minutes, I have time for a quick survivor game" *Facing The Knight* Oh no

Something died inside me when he got hit by eruption when the he finally managed to get a gen to 95%

Hens: I was tortured for 30 mins in genlock in my game Also Hens: time to torture survivors for 1 HOUR

My heart goes out to those survivors. It’s really disheartening to hear the passion go out from the survivor. You can just hear it in his voice.

Another reason to nerf Trapper

The saddest part is that the game became less and less about them wanting to win but wanting someone else to lose. Truly this is about as evil as it gets.

Everyone being like "just don't give him the three gen" you do realize that they, no matter what, need to finish one of those gens. The three gen always exists, regardless of how many gens are completed at the moment.

6:30 I really like that despite how much he’s clearly having a poor time of it he goes out of his way to specify he has no problem with you as a person and his gripes are with the killer

Thanks Hens! 😊 it was awesome being imprisoned with you for an hour

“This guy is so annoying and by this guy i mean the killer, not like the person” i love this mindset! even though the person playing is technically being an arse holding the game hostage he can seperate that from the core issue that being the perks and the killer power. love this guy already

"His sportsmanship is something I want one day." Him: "I'm not giving a GG, that guy is a literal psychopath." Edit: For clarification I wasn't actually implying the guy was unsportsmanlike, he was very sportsmanlike for being as polite as he was given the circumstances. I was simply musing at how the survivor said what he said right after being called a good sport. It was a funny juxtaposition.

While I know it was to prove a Point; that fact that Hens didnt hook anyone after holding the 3 Gen, despite downing them so many times, is the Scariest part for me

Surprised the streamer was so chill about the whole situation. I feel like most (including me) would have just given up or been raging 😂.

Ah yes, the alternate Killer Win Condition. The newly implemented match timer! Thanks Behavior!

Maybe you and the other streamer could each submit this match to the devs so they can watch it. Maybe it would help the devs realize what issues are in the game and could potentially be fixed. Also, I now firmly believe potential energy was added to the game just to counteract this type of play style and the devs knew the knight was too good at three gen-locking.

Respect to him I could not play a match this infuriating for that long

Imagine if they didn't add that 60 minute cap it would be insane if after 25-30 killers just won as an alternative win con

You were lucky to have such patient survivors. I would disconnect after 15 min 🤣 I followed the guy, he is really wholesome, he deserves a crowd of followers 👍

Huge props to the streamer for not going insane and staying as positive and nice as he did. I understand his frustration after playing an hour long war against a Knight with seemingly no chance of winning. Great video, lovely content, hope it gets the attention of the Devs

The real Devour Hope is this playstyle LMAO

And people wonder why Vittorio came out with 3 gen perks designed around close quarters. Vittorios perks were designed to counter 3 gens because the devs knew how effective the knight was with it.

I had this happen in Lery against Knight. The worst part we realized very soon that he was defending the middle, dropping all chases after a hit at best. We tried 99'ing a safe gen to lure him out of the strategy, but the killer just won't budge, so we just ended up loosing a very boring and long match. And we lost it only because we tried to play it. We could have just literally walked around the map chatting in voice chat waiting for the 2-hour game limit. This is clearly taking the game hostage, and hopefully will be fixed soon. Otherwise it will be bnp+potential energy every game, with killers complaining that survivors are doing their only objective in the game.

That streamer had such a strong mental to keep it together for that long, major props to them!

I think this really highlights how oppressive eruption is especially in solo survivor games.

I now feel incredibly validated that despite all my frustrations towards the game, I've stuck with my guns and didn't go full gen kick meta. And I play Trapper.

I think one of the issue is that the perks has too good of a synergy. Unlike ruin where it’s a good perk but can’t really stack up with other gen-regress perks, these 4 perks stack up way too well.

The addition of CoH and free regression perks are what's making these stalemates so painful. Survivors have a renewable heal so there's no reason not to just run to the other side of the map, but killer has no reason to chase and instead leaves to go kick their gens and get free regression with overcharge and CoB.

I've once spent an hour in a game because solo queue teammates wouldn't split on the last gen when there was a line of gens on asylum. To make it even more dreadful, the killer wanted to slug for a 4k mori after tunneling the first survivor at 4 gens. All that just for the 3rd survivor to bleed out and I get hatch.

dead by genlock

Gen regression perks like these are definitely unhealthy, I agree. I think Eruption is one of the most annoying because it because requires 4 man SWF or it's very incredibly strong towards endgame. Being 3-genned or even just needing progress and then your random survivor gets downed with no indication is a nightmare.

I loved his comment "I'm not giving that guy GG's, that guy's a literal psychopath" 14:58

I had a similar match like this with a 3 gen against a Freddy... it did not go this long and eventually I just wanted to go next. It was our stupid fault for 3 genning but the Freddy was not good, he just took full advantage of this strat until we got bored and wanted to move on

I hope the devs look into this video and come up with a solid solution

Well this explains the impossible 3 gen I played against a Knight today.

I had similar situation, after 35 min my kids started to shout at me that they want something to drink and I was so focused on gen protection that I forgot about everything, they rage quit after 40 min ... survivors, not my kids , my kids never give up 😂

Damn, I thought we were finally going to have some one with sense talking about how Eruption and Call of brine was creating forever gens but instead I got a video about diverting attention away from problem perks and instead placing it all on the Knight implying that this is his only tactics and the Knight is the main problem. For the last 6 months, I've been forced to bring Prove thyself and Circle of Healing as those perks are the strongest counters to Eruption call of brine overcharge meta. Let me give you a hint. Killers with Insta downs are almost unbeatable with kick gen meta. You can defend your 3 gen and the moment anyone slightly over extends, your team has lost. Am still crossing my fingers for the day when content creators start drawing attention to the current forever gens meta that has existed for 6 months now as that is the only way Behavior sees anything. I can't believe its been this long and barely any high profile content creators have noticed this problem and the best thing we've got so far is Hens going, "Oh wow. The knight is great at controlling a 3 gen.".....*while using a forever gen build* :| EDIT: oh ok, you made a small mention at the end of the video actually mentioning the main problem. Next time, make that the focus at the START of the video instead of at the very very very very end in the last 30 seconds......

Literally had this happen to me and my partner last week. It wasn't a 1 hour match since we had two randoms that died very quickly. The biggest problem for me was that the knight we played against, literally never played killer before. They kept using their power and leaving chases when they could have gotten a free hit. Not like "oh I need to leave and defend the gens" no, they just always left when the chase was 3 seconds instead of 2. We lost at the end because one of us went down due to lag. They've never really been able to catch us in chase and they were doing an awful job regarding their pressure. But because of the perks and we had someone 3 gen us, they won. It's just not healthy for the game imo because they even told us that they didn't have fun in that match lol

That man has so much more patience and sportsmanship than I could even wish to have in a million years. Mad respect to him and the others.

This has to be the most evil playstyle I've ever seen. Only problem is that it's an incredibly effective strategy on not only The Knight, but also on other killers like Demogorgon. Minimal portals throughout the first 3 gens, then at 2 gens left I select which 3 of the 4 I think I can protect and double portal each gen. I intend on early portals being sealed so that I can double portal every gen, keeping 1 portal open and 1 closed at each gen. This strategy works well even without gen kick perks as it forces any gen configuration into being a 3 gen, and with gen kick perks it plays out just like these Knight matches.

Homeless Frog 69 strikes again

Holy dam! Mad props to the streamer for staying chilled and attempting to win. I think perk reworks and meta changes would keep the game fresh if it changes throughout the months. I find this meta boring on both sides. I kinda want more meme perks or a meme meta for a bit to shake everything up. Awesome video like always Hens! Keep up the great work :D

"Hello friends, this is Otz, according to your mom's talk about the birds and the bees, and today I present to you my fifty win streak on The Knight."

oh god i'd take a loooong break from dbd if i had a game like this 😭

I have been saying this FOR MONTHS! Killers get way too much free pressure if they bring the right perks.

GOOD JOB BHVR! WHAT AN AMAZING GAMEPLAY

Omg hens, I thought I was subscribed lmao, your RU-vid analytics mention made me check. Love your videos

every time I think about coming back to this game, I watch a video like this and decide to maybe just wait a few more months

I would not have been as nice as that survivor 😭 Kudos to him!!!

Anyway after that Skull Merchant came out

This is the reason I still watch DBD videos. Even if the game is quiet for a little while. Without fail. Something wacky shit like this shows up. And it's just so fascinating to watch it all unfold.

Deja vu about to become a meta perk 😂

I'm really impressed at how you made this hour-long game into enjoyable, informative and entertaining video. Mad props to TheRingu (the streamer) again and again, staying so respectful in such a frustrating game, not raging, playing out the game and still trying no matter what, we definitely need more wholesome people like them in the community! Thank you for showcasing how nasty the genlock can be in the current meta. Loved previous metas way more.

Hens gets trash-talked "that's the sportsmanship i aspire to"

Here because I've been 40+ minutes in a match with a Myers as the last survivor and I've spent 25 of those minutes in a locker. He's very adamant

Good on you for highlighting what is unhealthy for the game. Hopefully the devs will take notice.

Reasons like this are why I argue the point that regardless of how well survivors play or what they bring, 99% of the time the killer ends up dictating how everyone has to play with their unlimited use perks, map control and with strategies like camping or tunneling. The closest thing which survivors can do (which us extremely rare) is bring 4 brand new parts and rush gens. Hardly comparable considering killers can literally do this with perks not add ons.

You are a monster. I subscribed becasue of this video lol. Keep up the heresy!

I had the god 3 gen setup on Haddonfield as Knight (2 strode house gens and garden gen). I was starting to get backed into a corner and decided to start playing for the gens (my build was spies, mag grit, corrupt, and dissolution). Despite the fact that I had no gen kicking perks and was running multiple off meta ones, I was able to just camp my gens with the patrol path speed+distance and blindness addons. Even with no late game slowdown I slowly choked them out and won after about 30 minutes. The knight is way too good at this. I really want knights patrol aspect of his power to be incentivized, but right now jt cant be done without first addressing 3 gens. I don’t know how the best way to approach it is, maybe if no gens have been completed for 8-10 minutes survivors get a repair boost, or maybe even see their teammates’ auras to help with solo q struggles. And for sure at least Eruption needs a nerf. I just don’t like how easy it is for knight, nurse, and blight to just hold games hostage with a tight gen spread.

Having 3 survivors distract while a 4th sneaks a gen behind would have been the play.

Little did we know this was only the Knight's opening defense, we never predicted the Skull Queen's gambit :'(

Truly the best game of chess I’ve ever seen

This high chaotic villain energy is what I strive for in all of my multi-player videogames.

I really hope HBVR changes something about this. With Eruption being the way it is currently, a three gen situation like this is just unwinnable sometimes.

that was easily the kindest streamer ive ever seen despite the situation

this vid made me fall in love with ur channel

You’re the only dbd RU-vidr I still watch. I appreciate you hens!!

Hey hens I'm glad you made a video about this a couple days ago I was in a match where the knight had 0 kills and I was in a three gen which he protected with his life he managed to kill 2 surv and I ended up in what seems like 2 hour match . Edit:I worded it wrong but anyway the game had ended to neither us winning or him losing he refused to hook one of us and was trying to down both of us. He also had call of brine and overcharge

They should add a feature where you get 1% of permanent progress every time you do 10% of the gen or something like that.

All the skull merchant mains have competition now

When me and my squad meet this kind of killer from time to time who starts camping 3 gen right at the start we just go into hiding and wait until he starts doing his objective or until he DC's. We never lose this mental game.

This is the origin story of why none of these survivors played without Prove Thyself ever again lol

This was epic, really well played 👍👍👍

This is my biggest fear when playing DbD. My games usually last 15 min, an hour would destroy my brain.

Went through a similar thing while playing with my friend, we eventually just gave up since there was literally nothing we could possibly do about it

First of all I would like to say I’ve used this strategy a few times and it’s very frustrating that it feels like this is all knight is good for at the moment. Secondly, if most of your viewers are not subscribed that’s actually a good thing because it means RU-vid is pushing your content out so congrats! That’s how I found it btw. Third and finally, great video!

Now thatthe skull merchant is out imagine this 3gen 💀

Went with this build in the very beginning of my Knight journey, even made a video on it with my build varying at one point: I ran Sloppy/Lethal instead of eruption. But, tho enjoying the Knight A LOT, I actually find myself camping/tunneling/3-genning with ANY build I run ten, twenty times more often than with any killer ever before. He is wild

yea, 3-gens are really annoying and i always try to prevent this, if i notice how the progression goes (dosnt work very well all the time) and it always feels like survivors going to hide on the other side of the map, while you still try to break this 3gen on the other side as killer, having a 3-gen (unintentionally or not) can be annoying, when survivors decide to hide (had a 20-30minute match on midwich ._.)

"Hey guys, Watch me be an asshole for no reason!"

Matches that go past 15 minutes seem king already I couldn’t imagine being in one for an hour😭

I've been saying this since the meta shake patch. It's horrendous. I didn't get (and still don't) why people think those were good changes. Almost no changes, maybe except for Distortion and Lucky Break, were good for the game at all; lots of perks were fine as they were (Pop, Ruin, PainRes, DMS, Iron Will, Self-Care) and got changed for stupid reasons like being overused. And since that update, I've seen more and more tunnelling & camping killers, and BHVR introducing perks as a counter making you forced to use them (which btw was the whole point of this patch: removing "must use" perks). Now, we have a killer that can hold 3-gen indefinitely, and a crappy perk which's only use is to counter that specific situation, being bad for everything else. Sometimes I think BHVR's designers didn't study game design at all.

Amazing, you can play the game *completely legit* and "hold it hostage" to the point where anti-cheat kicks in, despite no cheating occurring. That said, the problem is that if a killer takes these gen lock perks, survivors basically *have* to take genrush perks to succeed, and yet it's also the same the other way around, a killer will struggle without them if survivors go full genrush. We had a perk revamp so recently, it seems weird to have another one already, but it does seem like it's needed.

props to the survivors for playing for as long as they did through this insanity.

Yeah thanks for your video man, now people just playing like it with knight, they don't even play any other generator they camp 3 from the start and spam guards, really nice video, you make the game better for sure

Im confused on how they all died

It’s weird because Call of Brine is no stronger than it was at release, but now it feels super overpowered. I think what would help immensely is adding a cool down. Not a long cooldown, but even just like a 30-40 second cooldown would be great. That way killers are incentivized to use it intelligently and not just apply it all the time whenever they want.

I love how the all the blood points are completely maxed out XD

Streamer was salty 😂😂 that was crazy game to watch hahaha🎉 congratulations on that crazy lockdown

This genlocking "tactic" is way too effective in my opinion Had a Deathslinger match, with CoB, Eruption and Brutal Strength. I had like 2-3 hooks by the time one gen only needed to be done, but they gave me the most disgusting 3 gen imaginable and after like 30 min of ONLY defending these 3 gens and have a hit and run playstyle (only really chasing when I knew it was safe) I actually won, although I didn't really deserved it lol

I held a similar game like this. I played as Sadako with COB, Jolt, Eruption, and Pain Res. I locked down 3 gens that were lined up back to back, and there was nothing the survivors could do. If they tapped a gen, I kicked it. If I committed to a chase, Jolt and Pain Res still covered me. It's brutal, I wonder if Potential Energy will become meta because of this

i think overcharge not having a cool down rlly helps w gen kicking build that most ppl are using atp, & eruption being super annoying w the 20 seconds of doing nothing while you watch the gen regress

I remember just the other night I was playing against a Knight who had Eruption, Nowhere to Hide, Pain Resonance and Call of Brine and we got Haddonfield. We did actually 3 Gen (there was a Gen by the porch of Main Building, a Gen inside of Main Building and then another Gen was by the street across from the Porch Gen) the game lasted for 45 MINUTES. He'd just Chase us off Gens, hit us, go back to the 3 Gen and stay there. We did somehow get the Gen inside of Main Building done but man that was a hellish war of attrition. Easily one of the most stressful games I've been in

Here's an idea I heard somewhere (I think it was Scott Jund) : NO perk on either side affect gens in any way. Gens are perfect. We can negotiate the time it takes to complete one, but nothing boosts gens and nothing slows them down other than basic repair and basic kick. Every other aspect of the game is fair game.

As a knight who runs this build i can confirm this is how most matches go unless they break the 3 gen early on which most survivors do not

I’ve had a similar Gen lock knight once on the swamp map that has the weird bridge, big ol torture looking house, and what is probably a watch tower. So the last gens on the map were one in the middle of the map out in the open, one on main building, and the last one out by the watch tower. That match was super annoying because the knight had the add on where the jailer comes out twice and just constantly walking around main and the one in the middle and sending a guard to patrol the one by the watch tower and occasionally kicking the gens too. He probably had eruption and the one sadako perk that spams skillchecks at the end. All of us were on death hook and had a circle of healing boon on the corner map by main. And I didn’t have any Medkits or perks on that match so my only hope to reset was go to the boon. I tried my best to stick to the watch tower Gen and luckily after like 1hr and 20 minutes, I managed to pop that Gen and there was an exit gate like right next to it and everyone escaped. I think the knight got bored cuz a couple of times the knight was just watching us do the Gen progress sometimes

bro, the dedication from that team

wait do all survivors die after one hour?

Knight is honestly my favourite killer and I’ve never seen someone be this evil with him. I just like running around and bullying people with my goons

I got game like this yesterday, and now i see this video in my rec. We repair last gen in last minute and then game just over xD