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home made epoxy granite cnc - part 4 - x axis 

Joerg Beigang
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This is the making of the X-axis, last big epoxy granite piece for my mill. It was by far the most complicated cast so far. I wasn’t exactly sure how it would come out.
Slowly it starts to look like a machine.
A little more details on this build in written form you'll find here: dangeroustools....
Part 1: • home made epoxy granit...
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@chemicalcorrosion
@chemicalcorrosion 5 лет назад
You hand filing the flat surfaces to be square reminds me of my training in the military to be a machinist. Early on in training, we had to produce dimensionally accurate parts with nothing but hand saws and files. Yes, you can get very accurate results with skill and the proper(and well taken care of) file. Some of the best machine surfaces are hand scraped. 👍
@AirCrash1
@AirCrash1 3 года назад
And then you used epoxy that was not vacuumed first?....surely you watched the MANY RU-vid video where the strength and rigidity of epoxy that wasn't vacuumed was shown to be substantially less if pot mixed? ....That Fox guy showed that all this steel within epoxy was totally unnecessary and a massive waste of time when he achieved less than 5 micron accuracy using real granite slabs.
@jimbarbwe1985
@jimbarbwe1985 5 лет назад
How do you have so few subscribers you deserve so many more. Love your work it's amazing and your video editing and music choices spot-on. Thanks for the videos keep up the good work
@XavierAncarno
@XavierAncarno 5 лет назад
Thanks for following up on your project, without letting us hanging for months for the next video.
@DeminVictor-xk9pk
@DeminVictor-xk9pk 4 месяца назад
У нас в Росси говорят- Руки и голова под нужным углом заточены. Молодец парень. Доволен просмотром.. Будут сл. видео- дай знать. Подписался.
@aarondcmedia9585
@aarondcmedia9585 5 лет назад
Great editing and detailed video of the build process, well done. The project is coming together really nicely.
@TrPrecisionMachining
@TrPrecisionMachining 5 лет назад
very good proyect...very work
@ficklecycler
@ficklecycler 5 лет назад
Great progress keep it up! That looked difficult to fill that center area under the plate!
@joergbeigang
@joergbeigang 5 лет назад
Yes, wasn't too sure about that. And pretty happy when I opened the mold and saw that it worked out
5 лет назад
@@joergbeigang think I'd have casted the plate "housing" with inserts, then bolted, glued and leveled with a thin layer of epoxy... Anyway, glad it worked 👍
@amwomt7528
@amwomt7528 5 лет назад
as always like befor watching !
@airgunningyup
@airgunningyup 5 лет назад
awesome progress.
@czarPROstock
@czarPROstock 5 лет назад
Great little machine !
@w.dkalyan6234
@w.dkalyan6234 3 года назад
Hi friend namesta 🙏 Friend this is not only a machine this your hardwork 💪, and your effort Idea i feel it 🤗 because I am also built my own lathe and milling machine project at my home but your the ocean in this project 🙏i am little drop to compare with you friend Friend if you don't mine i want some help from you to built for my both lathe and milling machine project works please
@douglasrohman6191
@douglasrohman6191 4 года назад
Great work, thanks for sharing the process.
@UltraNyan
@UltraNyan 2 года назад
Damn the music slaps
@TheDIMONART
@TheDIMONART 5 лет назад
Now i know, my next 3D printer will be based on granite epoxy structure ☺
@hardcase1659
@hardcase1659 5 лет назад
Hardly practical.
@dellosCao
@dellosCao 5 лет назад
@@hardcase1659 why not ?
@hardcase1659
@hardcase1659 5 лет назад
@@dellosCao You don't really need that stiffness for 3D printing where there are no forces involved. You would just be wasting money tbh.
@MrZhefish
@MrZhefish 5 лет назад
yey! an update
@MrInnovativeEnergy
@MrInnovativeEnergy 5 лет назад
I would think a vibrator would be very helpful for mold fill.
@joergbeigang
@joergbeigang 5 лет назад
Definitely. But luckily it worked without as well. With this part I was a bit concerned...
@MrInnovativeEnergy
@MrInnovativeEnergy 5 лет назад
@@joergbeigang Yes. Looks like it worked either way. Coming along nice!
@CatNolara
@CatNolara 5 лет назад
@@joergbeigang would definitely recommend it, if you don't vibrate the bubbles out you end up having a lot of porosity. Would suck to spend all the work on it and then have it break because of that. It can be as easy as pushing a delta grinder or similar against the mould.
@orionpco
@orionpco 5 лет назад
Nice...
@Overclocked2300
@Overclocked2300 2 года назад
How much epoxy in total did you use for this part? What are the dimensions? Looking to do something similar.
@joergbeigang
@joergbeigang 2 года назад
Actually I can't really remember anymore. Bought 3kg bottles. Not sure anymore if two or three. Got half a bottle left. Gelcoat was one tin maybe half a kg and release agent one bottle which is still almost full. Just go and buy a bottle of resin and do some test castings. After that you got a pretty good idea on the percentage of the resin in the mix and you can can easily calculate the total amount. Good luck with your build!
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 5 лет назад
Terrible music, even worse at 2x speed
@CatNolara
@CatNolara 5 лет назад
Very nice build so far, lots of good ideas worth copying :D btw. do you plan on machining all the guide mounting surfaces? They look pretty good, although there's still some light coming out under the straight edge. Also, how do you make sure the mounting plates of the guides and the ones for the ball screws are parallel to eachother?
@joergbeigang
@joergbeigang 5 лет назад
With the first piece I went to the shop of a friend and milled it. Because his shop is six hours drive away and I don't want to steal too much of his time I did the other two pieces by hand. With a granite plate and sand paper. Was quite a bit of an exercise, but didn't came out any worse then the milled ones. I'll show a bit of it in the next vid. And yes, feel free to copy :-)
@Armadurapersonal
@Armadurapersonal 3 года назад
Name of the first two bg tracks?
@حمزةحمزة-م4ف4ض
@حمزةحمزة-م4ف4ض 5 лет назад
Cool work 👍
@briancrane7634
@briancrane7634 4 года назад
Metrology, metrology, metrology...excellent!
@ActiveAtom
@ActiveAtom 5 лет назад
Hi take your time please, in our two guys view, we love machinery made by that of a single man, but we love it only if it improves the abilities of the machine. Thank you see you in part 5. Lance & Patrick
@joergbeigang
@joergbeigang 5 лет назад
No worries, I'm not rushing at all. Took plenty of time to prepare the parts for both molds, x and z. Then casted them shortly one after the other. My goal is to build a good machine I'm happy with and to learn a lot while doing it. That can't be done in a rush. But learning also results in doing tasks faster and better the second or third time. Always happy to read your comments!
@dieMukumuku
@dieMukumuku 5 лет назад
Looks very nice! Surprisingly grear surface finish! Keep up that great work!
@joergbeigang
@joergbeigang 5 лет назад
The surface finish is like that because of the gel coat
@dieMukumuku
@dieMukumuku 5 лет назад
Ah okay. So probably that gel coat also is a kind of protective cover against coolants right?
@joergbeigang
@joergbeigang 5 лет назад
The main reason I used it is to protect the release agent. I was afraid that the sand and gravel could scratch it away and it would all stick to the mold.
@larsstolz7632
@larsstolz7632 5 лет назад
How is the x-axis squared to the y-axis? Are the two metal plates screwed together from the bottom through the gap where the ballscrew will be later? Or do you square it roughly and then align the x-rails using the play of the screws?
@joergbeigang
@joergbeigang 5 лет назад
The rails are mounted first. With the rails is not much room for adjustment. The two plates are going to be screwed together with quite a few screws. The screws in the holes will have enough play to adjust the x axis perpendicular to the y axis. Making x and y parallel to each other will be a bigger problem. The perfect way would adjust it just by lapping one metal plate, but I'm afraid I got to do some shimming too.
@larsstolz7632
@larsstolz7632 5 лет назад
You could probably adjust the angle of the z-axis to compensate for this. Then the x-axis and the y-axis dont have to be perfectly parallel
@robertnirenberg4556
@robertnirenberg4556 5 лет назад
This is a really cool build! Thanks for sharing it! Odd question who makes that screwdriver with the female square drive for a ratchet? I've never seen one like it and want one desperately!
@joergbeigang
@joergbeigang 5 лет назад
Thanks. It's made by proxxon.
@wiraxbox360
@wiraxbox360 4 года назад
the granite is mixed with epoxy resin and then you add a catalyst or it is different? I need to know how to make the mix , thanks
@joergbeigang
@joergbeigang 4 года назад
I mixed resin and hardener first, then I poured it in an empty bucket and mixed it there by putting step by step more sand gravel mix in. All after extensive testing to find a good mix ratio
@wiraxbox360
@wiraxbox360 4 года назад
@@joergbeigang Thank you very much, I have my cnc machine and it is made of cast iron but it has very thin and hollow parts of the machine, it is where the vibration and resonance occurs, my intention is to fill with the granite epoxy, what I have doubt is if granite epoxy will adhere to the cast iron frame, very grateful for responder
@joergbeigang
@joergbeigang 4 года назад
There are some videos on RU-vid of guys who did exactly that. Maybe ask them if it's worth the effort in the end. For example here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-k1r36ykaRLA.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Upeu0kteUs0.html I'm sure if you start digging, there are plenty more
@neobikes
@neobikes 5 лет назад
This is gonna be 1 MILLION View video soon.
@НиколайАнциферов-м4т
Причём здесь гранит?
@northernsmith
@northernsmith 5 лет назад
Very cool build. I’m thinking about building one. Maybe after I finish my ATC build on my current mill.
@michaelkelly3158
@michaelkelly3158 5 лет назад
Hey man, great work. I saw a build which used 20% epoxy - is this a problem? He claimed shrinkage was minimal and I guess if you're using aluminium plates as your contact points you can machine these down later anyway.
@joergbeigang
@joergbeigang 5 лет назад
On the first part I used 15 percent. Came out slightly bended. 3/10 mm on 450 mm length. On the other parts I used 12 percent and they came out pretty good. The base of the z axis didn't need any machining. Was done in one hour lapping by hand. It depends a lot on the sand gravel mixture, and the kind of epoxy. But 20 percent sounds a lot to me...
@michaelkelly3158
@michaelkelly3158 5 лет назад
@@joergbeigang I see - 0.3MM is quite a lot over 450MM.. hmm. I saw this video which shows that 20% epoxy seems to offer more rigidity (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bcEPoZTAlcA.html). The other thing is just the surface finish is easier to get perfect with more epoxy judging by what I've seen. Is there a problem with machining the 0.3MM down afterwards or are parts under too much stress? Thanks
@joergbeigang
@joergbeigang 5 лет назад
Can't tell about the stress, but I simply milled it flat. I made some tests before, from 10 to 17 percent. From 15 percent on there was quite a bit of a layer of resin on the top. I made more of less identical parts and I couldn't really measure any difference in stiffness with the strictly non scientific tests made. In the end of the first vid of this series you can see the bended one under the straight edge.
@michaelkelly3158
@michaelkelly3158 5 лет назад
@@joergbeigang Thank you! Look forward to seeing the rest of your build :)
@danielkruger4305
@danielkruger4305 5 лет назад
Do have an idea of how many hours you have into just this piece?
@joergbeigang
@joergbeigang 5 лет назад
That's pretty hard to tell. Just the actual work might be about three to four hours for the metal parts, maybe one hour for the chip board cutting and drilling, an other hour for the reinforcement, two hours assembly of the mold, half an hour for the gel coat and a good hour for the actual casting. But endless hours went into the planning and the cad. Those i can't count...
@multiHappyHacker
@multiHappyHacker 5 лет назад
how does it perform? is it done yet?
@joergbeigang
@joergbeigang 5 лет назад
No, still a bit of work. Finished the steel frame where everything is sitting on. Now I'm taking my time for adjusting everything. I guess in about two weeks I'll have a new vid with the progress
@evgenijt3657
@evgenijt3657 5 лет назад
Спасибо за Видео . Хорошая работа .
@dellosCao
@dellosCao 5 лет назад
I think he love this girl photo
@joergbeigang
@joergbeigang 5 лет назад
I love the whole reef calendar. Sadly my source for getting them dried out a few years back
@sketchaus
@sketchaus 4 года назад
I missed something... How did you fasten this to the Y axis bearing blocks? Also, is there any adjustability in case X/Y are out of square, or are they bang on? If so, how did you get them bang on? :D great vids by the way!
@joergbeigang
@joergbeigang 4 года назад
You're right, didn't really show this. The bearing blocks are mounted on a aluminum plate, that's attached with screws to the aluminum surface on the part I made in this vid. Getting it square was a proper pain in the bum. Gave up at one point and started over again the next day. Just not something that's interesting in a video. Loosening and tightening screws and knocking with a hammer for hours...
@cnc-ua
@cnc-ua 5 лет назад
So much labor...
@gusbisbal9803
@gusbisbal9803 5 лет назад
This is a well designed mill.... with the accuracy of used sock. Nothing on this is a precision parallel surface. It looks like it is. It appears to be so but it just isn't. There are 21 degrees of freedom to accuracy and this address maybe 3 and I think i am pushing it there as well. Still I commend you for having a go at this. Well done on attempting it.
@CatNolara
@CatNolara 5 лет назад
I think he left enough possibilities for adjusting all the parts relative to eachother. My biggest concern is the planarity of the guide mounting surfaces tho. Anyway, you don't know the application the creator of this video has in mind. No need to talk him down.
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