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Homelander From The Boys Is The Best Villain In Recent Television History! And This Is Why! 

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@DanteLauert
@DanteLauert 2 года назад
Arch as Homelander. I cannot see how this could be used against him.
@thecrazye9213
@thecrazye9213 2 года назад
Ye this is def gonna be used against him. But I guess he also has the mega lore one too so? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@xxxxxx210
@xxxxxx210 2 года назад
To be fair.... Arch Would make for a pretty good hero.... Tho he would probably commit mass murderer on GW headquarters
@SebsterMS99
@SebsterMS99 2 года назад
Lmao
@rayclawicefire2503
@rayclawicefire2503 2 года назад
XD
@mark_williamh1340
@mark_williamh1340 2 года назад
Archlander still somehow implies less immediate danger than Arch on butter...
@mrbigglezworth42
@mrbigglezworth42 2 года назад
Considering the caliber of "heroes" this generation, Homelander might as well be a damn hero.
@malaficus
@malaficus 2 года назад
Horrible isnt it. That villians are more heroic then the heroes.
@IRMentat
@IRMentat 2 года назад
"heroes" with the writing and behavior of villains, created by people with zero knowledge or respect of what came before.
@dix0n778
@dix0n778 2 года назад
We live in cynicism and nihilism, the fame of The Boys and Invincible comics are a reflection of this, in addition of virtue signal over story and character building we see on modern Marvel and DC comics. Far from the values of optimism and goodwill to our fellow men from the Golden, Silver, and Bronze Age of comics.
@GodOfOrphans
@GodOfOrphans 2 года назад
Somewhere deep down underneath the psychopathy and god complex Homelander genuinely wants to be a hero, and that all comes across in the performance. He's fucked up but he has enough self awareness to know that he's fucked up, it's a beautiful disaster you just can't look away from.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 2 года назад
The weirdest thing about the power balance in season 3 are how the prop items are suddenly effective. Maeve's gauntlets suddenly can eat a full laser eye blast; Soldier Boy's suit is fine after he explodes constantly (and so is Maeve's!), etc. The only one I can buy is Soldier Boy's shield since it's literally just a big hunk of massive metal but I think they forgot unlike the Marvel universe, outside of V there's not a lot of hi-tech super-scifi stuff in this universe and that characters like Maeve do not actually possess magic items.
@Coproquim
@Coproquim 2 года назад
i thought that in season one when Homelander shot her after ripping that guys heart out
@Underworlddream
@Underworlddream 2 года назад
Yeah, like in the comic when Maeve try to kill Homelander with her sword he destroyed it easily and mention that the sword was a prop and was basically made from cheap weak metal like aluminum.
@ImperativeGames
@ImperativeGames 2 года назад
@@Underworlddream It doesn't matter from what that sword was made. He ignores bullets completely. Even if she can strike faster than the speed of sound - it will be just another bullet. I hate how in the media people always expect from swords more damage than from bullets.
@NotoriusMaximus
@NotoriusMaximus 2 года назад
@@ImperativeGames more mass applied
@AscendantStoic
@AscendantStoic 2 года назад
Despite the increasingly stupid plot points in Season 2 and Season 3 and the juvenile demonization of conservatives and conservative values the acting of Antony Starr as Homelander is out of this world, he is both so nuanced and terrifying at the same time it's fascinating. He has a lot of depth because Antony is capable of showing how Homelander's life as a product of a corporate experiment to create a "product" fucked up his life and personality pretty much beyond repair, he is evil, unpredictable and unhinged but he is also struggling with issues of acceptance and abandonment despite being invincible and super-powered. If the show had better writing he would have been one of best characters in TV history.
@theone4179
@theone4179 2 года назад
they attack both sides, so i can over look some of it.. but i can absolutely agree.. the way he plays it is amazing..
@majdjinn5042
@majdjinn5042 2 года назад
@@theone4179 They really don't. They show left wing wrongs as ultimately harmless but right wing stuff as actually dangerous.
@Damian-ew1vl
@Damian-ew1vl 2 года назад
@@majdjinn5042 They only laugh at corporate pandering(while practicing it themselves...), not leftie stuff. Expected nothing less from Hollywood though lmao btw Queen Maeve got powered up in the end just because they "didn't want to buy into the harmful trope of killing off lgbt characters", XD
@AscendantStoic
@AscendantStoic 2 года назад
@@theone4179 Not really, they passingly make fun of corporate hypocrisy when it comes to wokeness, but there is really no equivalence at all between their very mild criticism of corporate woke hypocrisy and their absolute seething hatred for anything right wing or conservative. It's really disturbing the terrible way they depict right wingers and conservatives and demonize them and anything they say.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 2 года назад
The thing I always find amusing is everyone's fixated on the Homelander = Trump thing, and are ignoring that Corporations and the AOC stand-in are really the puppet masters behind everything. No way Edgar was betrayed, I'm sure it was all for show.
@ChapterMasterDandy
@ChapterMasterDandy 2 года назад
little correction Arch, Hueghie hates his mother because she abandoned the family, his dad is the actual good dad, also Mother's Milk, Annie also has a terrible mother, etc it's like shitty families in general.
@IRMentat
@IRMentat 2 года назад
there's a few "bad mothers" but the fathers being universally poor in the series was hardly a mistake. Annie being a good case-in-point because it was a mutual decision (according to her)that annie get blue-blooded as an infant.
@theliato3809
@theliato3809 2 года назад
If we’re being real becka is the only decent parent we see in general.
@Grivehn
@Grivehn 2 года назад
Annie's mother being bad is a clear jab against conservative, christian mothers. Although there is smt in there about idiot mothers who take their kids into beauty contests and whatnot, too.
@vHindenburg
@vHindenburg 2 года назад
@@IRMentat I would argue the point of the show is having no father is shit.
@DeathSithe92
@DeathSithe92 2 года назад
actually in the show they make this big deal about how "Oh Starlights mother was just doing what she thought was best for her child, you can't blame her for that she did it out of love so its ok."
@Chaostheory1980
@Chaostheory1980 2 года назад
I always assumed Homelander had a fair amount of self control. The eye lasers I thought he has lots of power settings. He can slice through an aeroplane or slowly cook someone's head. I though Madalines death was more slow and deliberate as a final torture to prove she had only and illusion of control over him. As this is a guy who can cut throught a human in seconds or slowly turned her head to charcoal. I assumed when he used his lasers on Stormfront it was a lower powered version but all supers seem to be highly resistant to damage anyway.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 2 года назад
Oh yeah he was way off on that being a mercy killing. He coulda killed her in like 0.01 seconds if he wanted. He didn't want to.
@gabrielclark1425
@gabrielclark1425 2 года назад
I mean, his default state is eye laser everything he looks at, just look at him when he's born.
@massivemike7358
@massivemike7358 2 года назад
Exactly, the beams intensity can be controlled. Didn't get Arch's problem on that point.
@Aikano9
@Aikano9 Год назад
He heats up a plastic bottle of her milk with the laser eyes a few days later. It was 100% a deliberately slow and painful death.
@nimrath
@nimrath 2 года назад
I agree. Although the comic book version isnt as vanilla, he is a lot less relatable. Many of us can at least recognize some things in the series versions, whilst the comic book is more "pure" evil.
@MrLolguy93
@MrLolguy93 2 года назад
Plus, having Black Noir as his evil clone who went crazy from not being able to kill him was just perfect. Especially his confession
@AscendantStoic
@AscendantStoic 2 года назад
A lot of the success of the show and popularity of Homelander as a character is thanks to the phenomenal acting of Antony Starr.
@theliato3809
@theliato3809 2 года назад
@@MrLolguy93 at tiems it feels like a lot was lost with taking that from noir. Now he’s kinda just a corporate hitman
@KT-pv3kl
@KT-pv3kl 2 года назад
If you expect a test tube baby raised by scientists and corporate comitee to be "relatable" you fundamentally misunderstand the character that is homelander. His tv interpretation is a pale shadow of the comic book depiction.
@DonVigaDeFierro
@DonVigaDeFierro 2 года назад
Comic book Homelander is like a hit piece on someone who doesn't exist.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 2 года назад
The 2nd best sequence from the animated shorts they did was Homelander's first mission, where he keeps trying to save people and keeps on making it worse until he gives up on the saving them part. My favorite one was "I'll save you, hostage!" *lasers a gun* *ammo explodes* "Uhhhhh... I didn't know it'd do that!"
@Grivehn
@Grivehn 2 года назад
That and the actual Garth Ennis episodes were pretty much the only really good ones of that series.
@Grivehn
@Grivehn 2 года назад
@@Zlyxon Yeah, like half of it is zoomer trash.
@SargonofAkkad
@SargonofAkkad 2 года назад
...villain?
@CW-ng1mf
@CW-ng1mf 2 месяца назад
Based
@MrLolguy93
@MrLolguy93 2 года назад
But Arch, my boy. You're forgetting the original Homelander. Captain Hero from Drawn Together :)
@DraNayban
@DraNayban 2 года назад
Save yourselves!
@MrLolguy93
@MrLolguy93 2 года назад
@@DraNayban ACTIVATE HERO SHIELD
@lordmaur180
@lordmaur180 2 года назад
Drawn together was a masterpiece
@MrLolguy93
@MrLolguy93 2 года назад
@@lordmaur180 sadly, if it was made today, Twitter would have an aneurysm
@jessicaberry5596
@jessicaberry5596 2 года назад
To be fair to Omniman, he may have fit his world's role as Superman, but he isn't superman. From the start he was his own character with his own story to follow.
@umbragecko7520
@umbragecko7520 2 года назад
Also he came as a *Conqueror* to begin with to ready Earth for the rest of his Race (in the show),- (in the Comic i think was for reproduction with human´s)
@khiryhelms
@khiryhelms 2 года назад
@@umbragecko7520 in the comics, it was to strip mine the planet. The resolution to that conflict is that the Viltrumites learn that humans are the perfect species to cross breed with
@umbragecko7520
@umbragecko7520 2 года назад
@@khiryhelms Good to know! even more Mess up! :D......
@mark9960
@mark9960 2 года назад
@@khiryhelms that's a lot more messed up than I expected.
@DonVigaDeFierro
@DonVigaDeFierro 2 года назад
He's Vegeta, but as Superman.
@drakko26
@drakko26 2 года назад
Hughie's mom isn't dead, by the way. She simply just left, according to the show. I honestly think in the show, Hughie's dad is the only "good' dad (aside from Homelander in the season's finale, I loved that bit). Even after Hughie's mom left them, he stuck by and tried to keep the status quo as best he could, despite heartbroken himself.
@CorwinTheOneAndOnly
@CorwinTheOneAndOnly 2 года назад
To defend the laser eye stormfront thing, it's shown throughout the show that homelander can control the intensity of his lasers (they never actually visually change the laser graphic to match this, unfortunately). He can keep it low enough to just heat up some milk, he can slowly romantically melt someone's brain while keeping their eye sockets intact, he can just blow someone's head open, he can cut large metal structures in half, and so on. He most likely was not actually going full intensity on stormfront with his lasers, meanwhile Ryan was defending his mom, gas pedal on the floor type lasers. Also, THANK YOU SO MUCH for being like the first person I've seen to actually TALK about the ending scene, instead of "hurr durr homelander did an evil again" Like, yes, he lasered a guy to death for no real big reason, yes bad, BUT Homelander's fatherly instincts kicked in and was like "someone hurt my son, who, death" He didn't think, even for a SECOND, about his public image, he was just pissed at a guy who attacked his son, and did something about it (albeit in a homelander-ey way) I know the writers intended for that ending to be like some "look homelander did a bigger evil and ppl are clapping" thing, but To me, it just looks like a dad whose instincts were willing to sacrifice everything else he cared about all for the sake of his kid. Almost Joel from The Last of Us levels of self sacrifice
@creatorsfreedom6734
@creatorsfreedom6734 2 года назад
if HL wanted too he could get a ethno state for people who like him an for those similar to Super powerd plebs
@vincediscombe7360
@vincediscombe7360 2 года назад
YES, that "defend the family" instinct is one every father should have. The S3 finale left me really conflicted betweeen "homelander bad guy/villain" and "defending your child is BASED"
@theliato3809
@theliato3809 2 года назад
One thing that makes this homelander so good is that they take the most important part of what makes Clark such a great hero, his upbringing. And work out what kind of life a child would need to live in order to become such a sociopathic person
@NetMoverSitan
@NetMoverSitan 2 года назад
Ultraman being close to that.
@tylerwilliams417
@tylerwilliams417 2 года назад
MM doesn't knock out Todd cause he can't convince him Homelander is a bad man. He knocks him out after Todd tells him that someone has to be a father for Janine. (Suggesting that MM isnt doing his fatherly duties)
@IRMentat
@IRMentat 2 года назад
Todd wasn't exactly wrong, the hit simply backed up his point. MM went against his own word to become a "boy" again, lied about it and put his family at risk, then became a fugitive and dragged his family into a mess they didn't know was happening. Hardly a role-model despite the (let's be generous here) good intentions.
@chuckingflem
@chuckingflem 2 года назад
Yes.
@jlall4467
@jlall4467 2 года назад
I have not yet watched season 3 but I'm guessing they were trying to show that he is a racist who used the "absent father stereotype".
@1509Freeze
@1509Freeze 2 года назад
Anthony Starr would make a great Fulgrim, if it ever comes to that.
@t-rex_tion9612
@t-rex_tion9612 2 года назад
Perturabo...
@DonVigaDeFierro
@DonVigaDeFierro 2 года назад
In [Current year] he'll be given the house Velaryon treatment.
@daveatkins8105
@daveatkins8105 2 года назад
Pretty sure in the minds of the show runners Homelander is less a twisted version of Superman and more a completely twisted paranoid Avatar for Trump and conservatism. Removing the f'd politics the actor does a brilliant job of manifesting Homelander. Sadly the (brilliant) show is flirting with becoming far-left propaganda trash though. Just like Mr Robot changed from anarchic and counter culture to left-wing propaganda (only showing the corporatist right as the bad guys, never the corporatist left).
@bobjohnson1633
@bobjohnson1633 2 года назад
The problem with the politics is that it's based on fake news propaganda and the insane world view created by people who believe what they are told to believe. if the showrunners understood that news has always been fake BD propaganda, they could do a good job. They clearly have talented people that know what they are doing.
@evilds3261
@evilds3261 2 года назад
I felt like The Boys were a representation of the far-left and Vought a representation of the far-right. The show demonstrates that both sides have their flaws and misconceptions. Even if one side triumphs over the other, does it actually solve anything?
@jlall4467
@jlall4467 2 года назад
I notice that NNC (CNN) are right about every single thing and Vought news (Fox news) is wrong about every single thing Within the show, which we know is far from the truth of the real world
@samuelsoliday4381
@samuelsoliday4381 2 года назад
But the show does criticize corporatist the left. It shows what frauds they are. In corporations, there is no right or left, there is only what is popular and unpopular. The corporate right and left are literally the same.
@cbeaudry4646
@cbeaudry4646 Год назад
@@evilds3261 Idk about that, Butcher would be probably run out of left circles as "toxic masculinity," especially in season 1
@illiafilatov5521
@illiafilatov5521 2 года назад
What sets him aside is he's played by Antony Starr, and he's a good fucking actor
@ThePenitentSquirrel
@ThePenitentSquirrel 2 года назад
I haven't watched The Boys because the Ennis Brothers (along with Warren Ellis) are the kings of late 90's -early 2000s Edgecore and their version of clever writing is taking a traditional thing and jamming it up its own arse because a simple juxtaposition is enough. Also, because guys like the Ennis Brothers and Ellis openly admit they hate superheroes and simply used it as a step up to get their own edge core stories to sell to a wider market (Gen X in a nut shell). Here is the example I always think of, well Garth Ennis was writing Ghost Rider he had Michael The Arch Angel give a woman an abortion simply for getting in the way of his line of sight and then proclaims he doesn't care to another angel. This plot point neither advances the story nor provides a characterization of Michael as a villain because he literally is not involved in any way with the ending of the story arc.
@IRMentat
@IRMentat 2 года назад
Been loving the series, but the writers. .. . I have doubts. As typical for activists of this type they keep tightening the noose never offering a way out only a "wait here while we find a way to destroy you". I half want Homelander to utterly freak out but then I know he would be cut down by plot-convenience before he gets half way to anywhere of import.
@frankg2790
@frankg2790 2 года назад
The subtle as cyanide Conservative bashin' (the Qanon Shaman expy is one example of this) puts me off of what is otherwise a great show.
@killer25014
@killer25014 2 года назад
Or the acquiescence of logic in favor of creating plot holes just to save and preserve THE MESSAGE. Chief example of this, really, is the none-too subtle double-standard of Starlight acquiring Compound V just for the totally-innocent-and-not-deranged Kimiko, but casually refusing to get any more for either Hughie or Butcher despite knowing that they're just going to keep rocking the Temp V in order to gain the upper hand over Homelander and whomever else is still backing him. And then Hughie just gives up on the Temp V because.... "Oh shit Starlight, you're totally right. I just wanted to feel like I could stand up to super-powered 'Heroes' for once after having not actually accomplished anything for the last two seasons and after having not actually gotten any sort of justice for Robin. Who's still dead, btw, and whose killer is still running around. Yeah, that's on me. My bad."
@samuelsoliday4381
@samuelsoliday4381 2 года назад
@@killer25014 It's not a double standard because the decision to get v wasn't just based in philosophical moral reasons but practical reasons as well. Compound v is not safe to give to adults and in many cases have outright killed subjects. The reason she got it for Kimiko was because she is someone who HAS successfully been injected before and therefore is under less risk. And temp V, as revealed in the show is lethal after 3 doses which is why Butcher stopped Hughie from taking it. Hughie's arc in season 3 was about learning that there are different kinds of strength. And that he can be useful despite not being able to fight on the level of supes.
@InitialPowerD
@InitialPowerD 2 года назад
Antony Starr's performance is great, I just wish the show wasn't so damn political.
@canaldecasta
@canaldecasta 2 года назад
Dont let his brilliant performance distract you from how inconsistent his character is.
@evilds3261
@evilds3261 2 года назад
Are you suggesting people themselves cannot realistically be inconsistent?
@canaldecasta
@canaldecasta Год назад
@@evilds3261 Im suggesting that the script doesn't know who their characters are after a couple pages each time.
@0bzen22
@0bzen22 2 года назад
And I think Anthony Starr would make a great Ciaphas Cain, if it ever were a thing. The trope is that Cain is a tremendous coward deep inside, and yet by the sheer will of the Emperor (aka luck, and also Juergen), becomes the luckiest and most survivable hero of the imperium, thus being forever thrown into the most immediate danger. Kinda like King in One Punch Man.
@artski09
@artski09 2 года назад
a man with so many masks, it's masks all the way down
@ShadrackMeduson
@ShadrackMeduson 2 года назад
i always imagined that bruce campbell could make a great ciaphas cain. The way he acts and how he is contantly drawn into horrible chaotic shit but some how manages to pull it off with either luck or real skill and how he can be coward, heroic, dumb, inteligent all at the same time reminds me a lot to ash williams. But he is old now and Anthony Starr could make a good ciaphas.
@RealShield2099
@RealShield2099 2 года назад
The cup thing. Maybe he in a kind of shock. He was at ease expecting everything to go well, he had his guard down and simply could not convince someone would do that to his son. When it happened even though he had the physical ability to react, he was so shocked at what was happening he mentally could not. I think we have all had those deer in headlight moments where we are so surprised by what happened so in shock that we simply do not react even though we have reacted to other similar actions well within time.
@norricdaoc8746
@norricdaoc8746 2 года назад
That makes a lot of sense. Sometimes your mind can see what's happening in front of you, but just can't process a response because of shock or sheer disbelief.
@shadowofhawk55
@shadowofhawk55 2 года назад
Homelander is the best part of the Boys, but there are so many things that just turn me off from finishing season 3. The lazy COVID allegory, the flip flopping morales, the seeming return to status quo with only two changes, etc….. it just feels like it’s not worth it. Hell, Soldier Boy is Jensen Eckles one of my most favorite actors ever and yet I find his character meh because you can predict every twist two or three episodes in advance cause he’s just Stormfront but not a Nazi. Just basic writing hidden behind blood, sex, and reputation.
@MrLolguy93
@MrLolguy93 2 года назад
Leftist writing Nuff said
@Exodus26.13Pi
@Exodus26.13Pi 2 года назад
Just FFW the token characters.
@shadowofhawk55
@shadowofhawk55 2 года назад
?
@AscendantStoic
@AscendantStoic 2 года назад
Exactly, spot on, season 1 was really good with very little in terms of modern day political propaganda, meanwhile season 2 and 3 are really REALLY bad, there is no equivalence at all between their very mild criticism of corporate woke hypocrisy and their absolute seething hatred for anything right wing or conservative. The terrible way they depict right wingers and conservatives and demonize them and anything they say is really infuriating (for example by making a villain say something like All Lives Matter, as if that's a bad thing or going to change the validity of that statement), there is also inconsistent logic and lots of projection, one example with guns, they try to make conservatives look like gun-totting lunatics (the gun show episode) when at the same time the main characters in the Boys all use illegally obtained guns and use them quite liberally and the show is totally OK with that, on top of that they paint anybody who mentions George Soros as an evil deranged conspiracy theorist (Gun Powder) when even leftist publications in real life admit he is interfering in US politics and funding the election of progressive DAs in many US cities (the same ones who kept letting dangerous criminals get out of jail early without any real punishment for their henhouse crimes so they can vote Democrat), the list is too long to cover here. And to top all of that they didn't have the balls to kill or severely injure any major character, the ending of season 3 is basically a reset back to the ending of season 2 with only one or two little differences, quite a shame really.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 2 года назад
>The lazy COVID allegory Yeah, that didn't work at all. Esp since the good guys wanted the public to do what, shelter in place so that when Soldier Boy goes off he still nukes them and the building they're standing in?
@counterstructure4908
@counterstructure4908 2 года назад
Hey now, concerning mothers. Starlight's mother is horrible. in the beginning. I guess she does get a redemption. Any father figure getting one?
@Firemanboth
@Firemanboth 2 года назад
Yes, Hughies dad in fact. Mentioned a few times during season 3.
@LasseROM
@LasseROM 2 года назад
Archlander of the frigid north, and his army of Archers and Architect minions! Where do I sign up to get a snazzy uniform and free dental?
@counterstructure4908
@counterstructure4908 2 года назад
They are called artillery and engineers these days.
@earltesticuclees167
@earltesticuclees167 2 года назад
When he snaps and kills a bunch of people, it will be interesting to see how people react because there will still be the ones cheering him on…will he be devastated and give up or will he keep the killing going to have some minimal amount of adoration?
@John21WoW
@John21WoW 2 года назад
It literally happens at the end of season 3 and it is one of the most underwhelming scenes ever....
@huanquocmanh416
@huanquocmanh416 2 года назад
@@John21WoW based f the cuccdad
@counterstructure4908
@counterstructure4908 2 года назад
"minimal amount of adoration" That actually brings up an interesting thought. As Arch comments, Homelander is written with "my family and everyone else" mind set and his family was he alone for a long time. Everyone else he views as a collective. One collective. Sure, if he sits down and thinks actions and situations through. He will consider individuals, and multiple groups. But in general thinking he sees us all the same. With that in mind 28:10 looks not just like a "happy i didn't fuck up", but down right an epiphany. That we have groups that don't value the life of other groups. Quite the opposite even. Public killing is now on the table of popularity measures.
@ScorpiXinChao
@ScorpiXinChao 2 года назад
MM smacked the step-dad because he said/implied MM was not a proper father. MM lost his cool due to the insult not cause he lost his argument. Otherwise Great breakdown.
@marley7868
@marley7868 2 года назад
to be fair doing that does prove the point
@gallendugall8913
@gallendugall8913 2 года назад
Does seem like they are building up to the comic book ending where the military reveals they've had anti-super weapons all along by killing all the supers.
@pascaldongen2981
@pascaldongen2981 2 года назад
Butcher had a hand in that though. Without the research he provided thanks to a plot twist in the comics as well as their adventure to russia to start production on the stuff. So i'd say they havnt had those weapons for long. Though then again there are so many differences between the comic and the streaming serie that it is a whole different story alltogether.
@Darkpara1
@Darkpara1 Год назад
They've confirmed there will be a new Black Noire..... so i'm guessing they're going for the comic ending.
@Andersonzabuza
@Andersonzabuza 2 года назад
Interesting breakdown! For my money, Omni-Man is the better evil Superman but Homelander is pretty great too for a lot of the reasons you describe. In the end I prefer Omni-man cause I personally find the effects of century long life on a very human mindset to be very compelling and interesting, especially Omni-man's conflict with his own humanity. Homelander, for as well performed and interesting as he is, doesn't fill the Evil Superman archetype for me purely because the only thing he has in common with Superman are all superficial, that being the color scheme, having a Justice League knock off, and the powers. Character and backstory wise, there's just very very little in common. You could argue that's part of the point and Homelander is what would happen if Superman wasn't raised by the Kents but was found and raised by a corporation, but at that point can you still say he's a Superman-expy?
@RiskOfBaer
@RiskOfBaer 2 года назад
Or alternatively, in a few words: he's a complex villain. The best kind, and the one that is unfortunately the most rare since in majory of situations the villains are not treated as humans, or you know a living, complex being in case it's an alien or something.
@paladinebahamut
@paladinebahamut 2 года назад
So, we know Soldier Boy was Homelander's dad, but who was the egg donor? There's only one supe of that Era with a similar power set similar to him: Liberty aka Stormfront *gagging noises*
@lmul1441
@lmul1441 2 года назад
or it could either be a normal woman or an undisclosed super
@paladinebahamut
@paladinebahamut 2 года назад
@@lmul1441 possibly, but i think my hypothesis is more likely Also more disgusting, but what else do we expect from Hollywood these days?
@lmul1441
@lmul1441 2 года назад
@@paladinebahamut but if she was the mom donor, would she have known? Still gross if true but neither could be blamed for it if she didn't know.
@paladinebahamut
@paladinebahamut 2 года назад
@@lmul1441 probably not something that was on her mind. She was a psychopath, after all
@umngyr
@umngyr 2 года назад
hmm... so Homelander is exactly as powerful as the plot currently requires him to be? Well, he is a superman spinoff, makes sense :P
@thuzan117
@thuzan117 2 года назад
21:30 you do have a very good point here. Homelander gave her a pick (however grudgingly), he just wanted to pick the other one. Starlight kind of forgot who she was dealing with and did something incredibly dumb by antagonizing him. Had she just gone to him and tried a more diplomatic approach she may have gotten him to pick someone besides the fucking Deep, maybe. Or at least kept things more civil. Hughie did tell her not to take Edgars offer since he know it wouldn't keep homelander in check but she got a taste of power and wanted more. Understandable but foolish nonetheless. I do honestly pity homelander.
@jonathansmithwick5703
@jonathansmithwick5703 2 года назад
Imagine how uninteresting this show would be if they had anyone less talented than Starr as Homelander. He's been the only thing keeping it going for two seasons.
@Amantducafe
@Amantducafe 2 года назад
It's a shame how quickly people forgot about Tywin Lannister portrayed by Charles Dance
@zanothium15
@zanothium15 2 года назад
More Archlander memes are needed where he is sitting atop a pile of pastries.
@russwilliams4777
@russwilliams4777 2 года назад
I think you're spot-on about why he's such a good villain, and I think it's at least partly accidental. MM's ex-wife's boyfriend is portrayed as right-wing, listening to "alternative media", and at a rally with banners saying "god & guns"... but it's the mainstream media that's unequivocally pro-Homelander, he's a secular power raised in a lab and not in church, and he'd disarm the planet _Superman IV_ style - "what do you need guns for? I'm the only protection you need". He clearly doesn't value free speech/protest, or a right to due process. Homelander, as you note, doesn't view people as individuals with rights, he views them as part of the collective that loves and/or fears him. And, like all collectivist regimes, sees no problem at all in executing the enemies of "The People".
@Tree-beard
@Tree-beard 2 года назад
The Boys is absolute shite, badly written, chock full of leftism, unbelievably bad plot contrivances, Homelander is the only thing that comes close to being enjoyable in it.
@imaran1303
@imaran1303 2 года назад
They actually did worse and likened Homelander to Trump, which is a big reason I stopped watching the Boys.
@hopeintruth5119
@hopeintruth5119 2 года назад
Tbh not far off. Corruption, born being well off, family wasn't completely there in everything, had always been in public eyes and sensebof approval, though Trump has always had groups of people hated and love him. Heveas able to pay through multiple sandals.
@imaran1303
@imaran1303 2 года назад
@@hopeintruth5119 And this is why I fucking hate this show now, because idiots who think the MSM are truthful eat that cut together bullshit up like flies. What corruption? You mean the Russia stuff that democrats spent 4 fucking years to prove with no fucking evidence that morons still believe is true?
@moonfale
@moonfale 2 года назад
That Archlander art is pretty damn nice.
@NetMoverSitan
@NetMoverSitan 2 года назад
He clothes his naked villainy to seem a saint, where at most he plays the devil. 1:20 - Ah yes, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions. 4:10 - One that has delusions of godhood. 10:25 - So the writers have daddy issues? 14:30 - Every villain is the hero in their own story. 18:05 - Hitting him where it really hurt? 22:00 - Ah yes, Niccolo Machiavelli, the patron saint of spin.
@t-rex_tion9612
@t-rex_tion9612 2 года назад
Jerry questioned MMs role as a father, he got punched out. Jerry is the deluted super fan that believes everything he sees on TV.
@IRMentat
@IRMentat 2 года назад
came back to appreciate how 2-3 other media outlets (copy-paste conveyors) "spontaneously" made basically the same article within a week of this video :) all those seasons of the boys already and the timing? ~chefs kiss~ perfect
@NathXXX69
@NathXXX69 2 года назад
Yup I had this conversation with my nerds the other day, we ended up on a toss up between Omni man and Homelander. But Omni man is not evil, just a sleeper agent, totally loyal to his people and when forced to chose between his people and child. He couldn't do it. So Homelander wins best villain superman.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 2 года назад
Counterpoint: Omniman murders hundreds of men, women and children and uses his son like a club to do it. And this is on some level after he started to like humanity. That end scene wasn't just about Omni-Man convincing Invincible that humanity are worthless insects, it was Omni-Man trying to convince himself.
@marley7868
@marley7868 2 года назад
@@BlazingOwnager in adition the only reason he that is regards to his own son was to hurt him so yeah omnimans a prick he's not redeemable fuck him and fuck his species I've seen this stuff a hundred times and whining about committing genocide doesn't change the fact ya did it
@NathXXX69
@NathXXX69 2 года назад
@@BlazingOwnager yup shows a level of humanity that Homelander just dose not understand. There are many reasons why Homelander wins but I mean. RU-vid comment lol can write an essay XD
@asaenvolk
@asaenvolk 2 года назад
Here is what I would love to see for the end, a Homelander redemption arc. Their are many ways to do this, but I would find it amusing.
@Far-Right_Celt
@Far-Right_Celt 2 года назад
Omni-mans the visual represantation of J. Jonah Jamerson gone mad with power.. Hes what we should never let the media become... godlike.😉😂
@EnclaveApex
@EnclaveApex 2 года назад
Why shill for a show that hates you? Reminds me of when people were clapping for the recent Batman movie a few months back, despite that cringy scene with Catwoman talking about "muh whites"
@Mr33500
@Mr33500 2 года назад
This. They're not subtle about it either. It's one of the major plot points in the last seasons
@John21WoW
@John21WoW 2 года назад
Did you watch that movie? The movie is literally 3 hours long and that scene lasts 2 seconds. Batman overpowers Catwoman in every fight they have without breaking a sweat. I hate woke trash ( oh boy, MSheU and Star Wars have been fulll to the brim with this in the last years...) but hating on The Batman for a 2 seconds scene is overreacting. I knew of that scene before watching the movie and went in with low expectations and was pleasantly surprised.
@EnclaveApex
@EnclaveApex 2 года назад
@@John21WoW "Oh you're just overreacting pal, it's just two seconds!" "Oh you're just overreacting pal, it's just a side character!" "Oh you're just overreacting pal, your expectations are just too high!" yes i've heard all of it before, i just don't care lol the dead fish syndrome of comments like yours is what got us here, if you really "hate woke trash" you wouldn't give these tools a penny, let alone two seconds worth of your time
@Damian-ew1vl
@Damian-ew1vl 2 года назад
Sorry but Soldier Boy is just straight up better Ooooh wait I forgot he's not a villain :D
@imaran1303
@imaran1303 2 года назад
He actually is. He is a shit father that helped in Homelander becoming the broken man that he is.
@user-ug1zh3cd9v
@user-ug1zh3cd9v Год назад
And boring
@NebLleb
@NebLleb 2 года назад
It's quite telling that in the second season, "I can do whatever the fuck I want!" went from a one-off line to his full-on catchphrase basically.
@BayaRae
@BayaRae 2 года назад
An import proto-example of Superman gone evil: Marvelman by Alan Moore.
@pascaldongen2981
@pascaldongen2981 2 года назад
I can see the need to talk about the best Villain of the show, yet may i tempt you to make another on the true villain of the show? The charming Butcher.
@EmanGameplay
@EmanGameplay 2 года назад
10:27 Arch, if you want a show that has a very positive portrayal of father figures in their children's lives, I suggest you watch Arcane. There's not 1, not 2, but 3 really good examples of caring dads that you can cite.
@monstersamongus4747
@monstersamongus4747 Год назад
Arcane is overrated trash.
@therubicon
@therubicon 2 года назад
The character of Homelander is so well written it scares the crap out of me. He is truly an all-powerful and utterly terrifying bad guy. Sort of like what if Superman was the baddie.
@Crimsonwtf
@Crimsonwtf 2 года назад
what is scary is homelander is a better person then most of us would be given such power .
@thorveim1174
@thorveim1174 2 года назад
Unsure. Many of us do value human life more than homelander does, for having to stay on their levels for decades. Homelander never was an equal to normal huans, he always was above them... if someone was to gain homelander's power, he wouldnt instantly forget his life as a mere human and consider humans expendable.
@imaran1303
@imaran1303 2 года назад
@@thorveim1174 Highly... HIGHLY doubt that. We as humans are inherently selfish creatures and especially for most of humanity, living shitty lives, working shitty jobs, being beaten down by fellow people and the government, give any person like that power, and most will lash out and look out for the person who matters most, themselves.
@bobjohnson1633
@bobjohnson1633 2 года назад
He certainly values human life as much as your average person. Not at all.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 2 года назад
I've said it before and will say it again, if you want to see how people would react with unlimited power just play an online multiplayer videogame that's infested by cheaters, like GTA:Online. Lost of people will jump up and say "But I'm a good modder!" and then proceed to crash half a dozen players for shooting them while they were in god mode.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 2 года назад
@@a.wadderphiltyr1559 That's not the point; that's also why it's not serious. The point is how quickly absolute power, even in a tiny little simulated environment, turn people into monsters who morally justify all of their actions and keep insisting "they are the good ones." It's like the prisoner/prison guard experiment. It's not real and it's happening in an artificial environment, but you can see the behavior all the same.
@redrave404
@redrave404 2 года назад
Another good Superman gone wrong story is "Superman: Red Son," where instead of landing in rural America his ship landed in the Soviet Union.
@80sRetrosaur
@80sRetrosaur 2 года назад
I think you mean Archlander is the best👌
@HalfTangible
@HalfTangible 2 года назад
2:38 OSP did a video on Superman recently where they suggested Omniman wasn't the Superman, but rather Invincible was; it's essentially a story of "what if Superman had an evil dad with his powerset"
@maxkessler784
@maxkessler784 2 года назад
I started watching the show recently but stopped after the scene with Starlight killing the guy trying to defend himself in the middle of nowhere because I felt it totally undercut the entire supposed point of the show aka standing up for oneself (apparently unless it goes against lefty talking points). But I'm tempted to try and finish it just to see more of Homelander since he is the first American villain I've seen in a while that was well-done. Though I still think he should have killed Vought's CEO after he talked down to him at the beginning of season 2 since A. he had already killed Madeline and B. the entire argument aside from being pompous the argument was outright stupid. We aren't a superhero company, we're a pharmaceutical company.... whose top pharmaceutical product was developed seventy years ago, before the company was founded, whose primary effect was to create superheroes, which until recently been completely secret and thus had not been sold to anyone outside of the company and thus the only way to monetize its existence was to create and then stage-manage superheroes. But yeah, Vought totally ISN'T a superhero company.
@calus7958
@calus7958 2 года назад
You conservatives are so thin-skinned -.- And you complain about Liberals being too sensitive to watch some shows.
@samuelsoliday4381
@samuelsoliday4381 2 года назад
1. The show isn't about standing up for yourself. It's a deconstruction of Superhero/celebrity culture. The scene where Starlight kills a man is supposed to show how jaded she's become by the ongoing conflict and we aren't supposed to fully sympathize with the action. 2. Yes, vought IS a pharmaceutical company. Just because its top product makes superheroes doesn't make it not a pharmaceutical company anymore. And they still have products outside of the superhero business. 3. Homelander can't just go around killing people willy nilly because he values his reputation. He got away with Madeline because, unlike with Stan, he could actually get away with it. She was already in a position where she was going to die and her body would be damaged enough that no one could link it back to him.
@malaficus
@malaficus 2 года назад
Homelander seems to suffer from what every modern heroes suffer from. A lack of humanity. Based on what Arch says homelander good vilian is purely accedental. Something unintented by the writers. I can see why Arch like it. To me however. Its just more of the same. Hero in name only. I miss the day being a hero was a good thing.
@Mr33500
@Mr33500 2 года назад
We can't have heroes or ideals in this day and age. It must all be subverted
@marley7868
@marley7868 2 года назад
@@Mr33500 in ways that would boring if you saw a teenage girl doing it and personally adding lazer eyes makes it 10 different kinds of pathetic
@malaficus
@malaficus 2 года назад
@@Mr33500 Exactly. Superman is famous because he is the eternal optimist. Man of steel didnt get that memo.
@dawall3732
@dawall3732 2 года назад
In the comic book hes written even better. There in the end of the comics run you find out that he didn't actually do most of the evil things hes blamed for. It was an evil clone who just wanted to ruin his life. So yeah in the comic he has all kinds of delusions and visions of doing terrible things to other people who annoy him. However at the end of the day don't most people. And at the end of the day for him that's all they were just imagination (day dreaming). And yet he gets blamed for so many horrible things and winds up snapping.
@Darkpara1
@Darkpara1 2 года назад
No. The comic just had a good twist for him. Homelander as a character is far less developed. He's just an over compensating man child with a god complex.
@trajanfidelis1532
@trajanfidelis1532 2 года назад
Thanks for the video Arch
@eatMY455
@eatMY455 2 года назад
I genuinely enjoy homelander. I love his personality, i mean, it makes complete sense why he does what he does, and is the way he is. His upbringing and the way he is mentally now, makes sense. And his actions reflect this. I greatly written villain.👌
@tbone121974
@tbone121974 11 месяцев назад
Excellent video. I'd like to see more like this exploring the Lore of The Boys
@PhilosophicallyAmerican
@PhilosophicallyAmerican 2 года назад
Ah yes. The 'what if Superman was evil" villain. Truly a creative, never-before-seen masterpiece. As fresh and desirable as a beaten-to-death horse lying in the summer sun. Needless to say, I don't get the fascination with this character.
@UglyJaguar
@UglyJaguar 2 года назад
Dislike 😐
@0bzen22
@0bzen22 2 года назад
It's a well-done Evil Superman, not just evil for evil's sake, although he is getting there. And it's all the stuff around him that's interesting. Well, at least in the first couple of seasons before it all went down to Predictably Random Shit Creek.
@PhilosophicallyAmerican
@PhilosophicallyAmerican 2 года назад
@@0bzen22 I just find the whole concept so boring now. Injustice, Red Son, that weird movie with the evil "superman" child. It's done to death. Time to move on.
@gleipnirrr
@gleipnirrr 2 года назад
@@PhilosophicallyAmerican another loser trying to hype up the fact that he doesn't get it as a strength of character instead of what it is: a fault.
@Mr33500
@Mr33500 2 года назад
@@0bzen22 Isn't he evil for the sake of it? The only thing that held him back was his image and vought, but outside of that he just did whatever he wanted with the knowledge that vought would protect him and cover up his criminal behavior since he earned them a lot of money.
@barmyfanny
@barmyfanny 2 года назад
I hope arch will say the same about his favourite “hero” corpse Emperor
@brigandboy1425
@brigandboy1425 2 года назад
Antony Starr is the only good point in the entire show, which is ironic, because his character is complete crap. He isn't a great super villain, he's just a spoiled child with the ability to kill anyone and everyone whenever he wants. There is no nuance here; Homelander gets what Homelander wants. Brilliant acting doesn't cover for a paper-thin villain.
@disconcerningcitizen2224
@disconcerningcitizen2224 2 года назад
I agree I don't understand the appeal of Homelander or the rest of the show. The writers are stuck in some kind of time loop. They still think it's 2003.
@pennygirl015
@pennygirl015 2 года назад
Homelander is amazing villain and Antony Starr deserves awards for it. However, Starlight is one of the worst. Her plot armour is sooo so thick. Also she constantly makes stupid decisions. She tries to keep Hughie back from possibly using the only way to kill Homelander. She secretly films Homelander to save herself despite the fact it could possibly endanger the lives of thousands maybe millions. Just depends one whether or not he gets bored. She’s portrayed as a hero for the people yet she hardly fights for them. Hell she even possibly kills one in the car scene. When she gets to herogasm she spends way to much time trying to convince Hughie rather than immediately warning everyone.
@shadowofhawk55
@shadowofhawk55 Год назад
She also fails to see Hughie’s side of the argument. And when it gets out she was at Herogasm with another man combined with people talking about his troubles making a kid, he would get torn to shreds over that. All he wanted to do was not be the punching bag, and what does she do? Kick him down again and again and again.
@CG-1423
@CG-1423 2 года назад
Regarding the laser eye power levels, I think it can be changed depending on what the user wants. If they just want to, say, heat up their drink, they can do that without risking vaporizing it and whatever was behind it. And if they are in a stressful situation, it can be hard to hold it back. When Ryan blasted Stormfront, he was not holding anything back, and it ended up killing his mother by accident in the process.
@Charlamanga
@Charlamanga 2 года назад
If you limit the choices to television and movies I completely agree. I do love my Lex Luthor, Doctor Doom, and Black Adam. But it depends on the writers to make them shine and I would argue those three are pretty much antiheroes 😜
@umbralobserver
@umbralobserver 2 года назад
I believe quite firmly that Homelander is basically a superpowered version of Bill "D-FENS" Foster from Falling Down.
@morthim
@morthim 2 года назад
first positive take on the show ive understood. nicely done.
@Dysputant
@Dysputant 2 года назад
Writing is extremely important. It can make 9/10 But good actor ? Can rise role up to 11/10.
@izzymosley1970
@izzymosley1970 2 года назад
The thing I love the most about homelander despite the fact I have not watched this show is that in the series he is the strongest character that everyone is afraid of when you compare him to pretty much any relatively strong anime characters he pretty much always loses which is just hilarious to me even when he isn't in a verses battle with anime characters he's also just much weaker than other evil Superman's which is just hilarious considering how strong he is in the show.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 2 года назад
Why the Homelander vs Omni-Man meme is pretty funny. Homelander's the biggest threat in The Boys but wouldn't last two seconds on that scale. Plus Omni-Man could really offer some him great pointers on how to obliterate a civilization effectively.
@izzymosley1970
@izzymosley1970 2 года назад
@@BlazingOwnager homelander is really weak even compared to characters that are just as strong or just slightly less strong than him because he's really bad at fighting and doesn't have any special abilities like stopping time or something to make fights against equal opponents a little bit easier besides the laser eyes which could be predicted and dodged by a skilled enough character that's just as strong as him overall he is really just a big fish in a small pond in the grand scheme of things.
@redacted1093
@redacted1093 10 месяцев назад
1:04 That's more or less my problem with evil Supes, unless he is an elseworld Supes with the primary Supes to stop him there is no choice but to nerf him in both power and intelligence to an incredibly boring degree. This isn't so much a problem for other properties like Invincible or The Boys which have an evil Superman-like figure because they dont carry the baggage of actually being Superman
@Selvokaz
@Selvokaz 2 года назад
Hughie's mother didn't die, she left her husband and son, presumably to get with someone else. Hughie blamed his father for being weak, for not going after her, fighting for her, this plays into his complex of feeling inadequate when it comes to Starlight/Annie. Uh mother's milk made the argument, he made it several times with Todd, Todd however wanted to be a smart ass and throw the fact that his girlfriend's daughter was being raised by him, that deserved the five finger put down he got. On one hand, you talk about fathers showing their sons restraint, yet failed to point out this is a situation where it's up to the individual whether or not they want to show restraint or let the fist do the talking. The Law might say it isn't deserving, but the consensus of public opinion will definitely say otherwise. We've invented the idea of "Respecting" one another for a reason, Todd choose to do otherwise, and therefore Todd forgot that his actions have consequences and thus had to be corrected.
@OoRockstarkoO
@OoRockstarkoO 2 года назад
Didn’t even start watching your video yet, but you’re absolutely right. Terrifying
@feddyvonwigglestein3481
@feddyvonwigglestein3481 2 года назад
Finally some context to what the fuck Arch is talking about when he brings up his mancrush.
@Reidbynature
@Reidbynature 2 года назад
Maybe it would be too on the nose, but I could see them giving his character a presidential run like Lex Luthor.
@MizantropMan
@MizantropMan 2 года назад
Worst part of season three is that we now have to wait at least a year for season four.
@gregs1245
@gregs1245 2 года назад
Also the best depiction of politics ever by the way. Minus super heros. But that's basically how the world actually works.
@damianstarks3338
@damianstarks3338 7 месяцев назад
Fantastic Homelander video perfect comparisons starting at 1:23
@Alamandorious
@Alamandorious 2 года назад
Huh. This analysis is actually pretty interesting. I haven't watched the show, but I've seen enough to know the dark side of Homelander's personality. And to get a more detailed looking into the _why_ actually gives him a slightly sympathetic light. Not on his brutal actions, oh no...but the reason _why_ those actions are happening, the background that made him into what he is. Homelander is a young boy trapped in a super-human's body, with almost 0 in the way of moral compass. He could have been a hero...true, loved, and respected...but his circumstances made him what he is. He is, effectively...what the left is trying to make the children of today's world.
@Darkpara1
@Darkpara1 Год назад
He's a failed experiment because his upbringing without parents and being essentially a lab rat, made him into the sociopath he is. He can be redeemed.
@Cassandra112
@Cassandra112 2 года назад
ha. the showrunners wearing their politics on there sleeves when forgetting who the mainstream media is in their world is pretty lol.
@bobjohnson1633
@bobjohnson1633 2 года назад
He's an evil man that wants to be good and loved. He commits evil to try and achieve being a hero loved by people.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 2 года назад
I don't know, I don't think the show hates fathers entirely. Huey's dad is always a good guy, Starlight's mom is an selfish ahole, etc.
@J00icus
@J00icus 2 года назад
Homelander is the protagonist.
@FGustoh
@FGustoh 2 года назад
Archlander has a nice ring to it.
@majdjinn5042
@majdjinn5042 2 года назад
...it's so obvious the show runners did not understand their own fucking pay off to the degree it hurts. They wrote a scene where by all rights the crowd would be with him for protecting his son. From what the fans of this show took away. He has carte blanche to do anything because people sides with Homelander. ...he reacted to someone harming his son, not to just someone who politically disagrees. But childless weirdos and even the show runners don't understand what they did
@bobjohnson1633
@bobjohnson1633 2 года назад
Nobody harmed his son. That wouldn't hurt a normal 12 year old, so it didn't hurt one that is fine face planting from two stories. This was also in a political protest, where antifa regularly wear armor and helmets and beat up minorities and reporters. We have to see the fallout in the next season.
@majdjinn5042
@majdjinn5042 2 года назад
@@bobjohnson1633 I'd flatline anyone who throws something and hits my son I wouldn't even care if it hurt or not that's far from the point. Also it's super inconsistent on what hurts anyone with high endurance abilities. They show they Homelander's body had to be conditioned. But Ryan just has it but he doesn't just have it because he gets hurt by a lot of things. ...the writing is bad.
@jlall4467
@jlall4467 2 года назад
They are trying to compare CV him to trump. Trump said something about how he could shoot someone right now and the crowd would still support him
@majdjinn5042
@majdjinn5042 2 года назад
@@jlall4467 But trump meant that unprovoked, as he could just randomly do it. They are stupid that they give it context where even I am like "fuck that guy". People assume powers here with Ryan. I really feel as though dropping a big enough rock on his head would kill him.
@maxwellmoreno5535
@maxwellmoreno5535 2 года назад
Homelander is one of favorite characters from the boys.
@TheKbthakur
@TheKbthakur 2 года назад
Ofcourse he is awesome writer wanted to based him on trump 😅or atleast how he perceived trump to be. Homelander has cofefe power
@johnkilcer
@johnkilcer 2 года назад
I find it amusing how in their pollution of the word nazi they have forgotten how to depict them in tv
@MrTrenttness
@MrTrenttness 2 года назад
If propaganda wasn't entertaining you wouldn't watch it.
@vasilmirchev4555
@vasilmirchev4555 2 года назад
I think it was clearly indicated that Vaugh are the villian.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 2 года назад
Your wrong on Ryan's laser eyes. He's got like, super overcharged BFG laser eyes - he's able to actually hurt Soldier Boy with them, and he's just a kid. Like the show implies he could have destroyed Homelander even if he had been there same as he did Stormfront. Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if Ryan never learns to fly or gets as strong as Homelander. I think they might effectively make him more akin to Cyclops.
@KyrosQuickfist
@KyrosQuickfist 11 месяцев назад
We live in a world where a majority of the people in the west have Homelander's mindset, but not his power. That's why society is the way it is today and why this show's premise is underlyingly relatable.
@HandlesAreStupid2024
@HandlesAreStupid2024 2 года назад
Didn't MM punch him out for taking his daughter to a Homelander rally after asking him not to? Think that reframes that piece of it a bit more. He also insulted MM's being a "Father" with "well someone has to". In guy language, if another man said that to me who was a step parent, face getting punched.
@DASBIGUN
@DASBIGUN 2 года назад
Some of them do have bad mother's too. I mean, Hughys mom left his dad and starlight's mom was obsessed with her being a 'famous superhero'. Homelander had no parents and, like you said, he 'needs'/wants a family. Hell, he even had a scene or two where he is talking with himself and he even begins to 'downplay' him as "a weak human".
@irladovelasquez975
@irladovelasquez975 10 месяцев назад
Also homelander should get the powers from the sun since it be cool idea that it would make homelander powerful
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