Homelander Learns About A-Train's Betrayal and Fires Sister Sage | The Boys S4 Ep7 

He probably thought A-Train wouldn't have the guts to betray him and when he's proven wrong that seriously bruised his ego.

That is how Narcissists think. Those who have misfortune of dealing with pwNPD know

@@adam-bf8li It's not even that; It's that he couldn't concave of him betraying him. In his own screwed up way he does consider A-train and Deep "friends" and it hurt him. Keep in mind, homelander has an incredibly screwed up perspective on relationships.

He views the seven as a family in a twisted way.

​@@guitarhausdoesntknowwhatac3285 I am friends with Homelander and he told me this personally. Haha just kidding, I couldn't resist, I let my impulsive thought win and start typing.

Homelander is so chaotic that its both scary and hilarious. He want people to listen to him then he got bored and hired Sage. Then he dont like being challenged by Sage. He abused A-Train but got hurt when A-Train betrayed him. Its so insane and i love it lol

Narcissism 101.

Like father Like Son

Homelander: I mean what specifically!?

@@keithharrissuwignjo2460 👎

water laser

Bro literally verbally abused A-Train and is crying that he switched up😂

I’ve always been nice to A-train 😭🥺

😂😂😂😂

“Yummers”

Had to bring herself down to his level

​@@lawrence8015 😂😂😂

@@lawrence8015lol

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@@lawrence8015*GODDAMN!!!* Now that is scorched earth!

Bro 🙁👐

HMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!! I WONDER WHY!!!!!????!!!!

Bro

I just find it funny that the deep killed his "octopussy" when she said that sage was using him. But when he found out that sage was twotiming him, his only reaction was "bro"

Tales From The Borderlands

A narcissist will never understand how they make other people feel, because they've only ever cared about themselves

I guess that’s because he never thought A-Train was capable of something even close to this, I mean he was intimidated but still had the balls to resist

@@Lazarultos Narcissists don't think they have to do anything to earn loyalty. It's owed to them, just because of who they are.

When I saw him whining about his betrayal I was looking at him like,”spare me the crocodile tears”

Not really a surprise tbh, by now we should all have known he's like that...

YUMMERS!

It’s actually crazy cause the moment Atrain could use his powers again he hasn’t. But he’s still a narcissist

its like homelander forgot what he made the deep do to A-Train lol

“You disgusting fan f# get off the effen stage” still gets me everytime 😂😂

Exactly, Homelander thought of him as a loyal dog, keyword being dog. a bad owner can kick them around and abuse them and still expect the dog to think the world of them because in a lot of sad cases they do, because that person is all the dog knows. But in this case, A-Train found other people and realized that other packs needed him. Remember Homelander thinks of a very select group of people as being on his level.

Bravo Vince

well shes just shutting up her mouth cus its her plan tho she was intentionally giving a train wrong information

what he meant by that is that she has an abit of being disrepectful for always giving her unfiltered opinion since cats usually hurt people's little feelings

Tho if it was all part of her plan to get starlight or hughie out of the picture to get close to the president due to them most likely having to go and warn the president then she played them like a fiddle and would have won too with a misinformation campaign and blindsided them proving them incompetent and making them enemy of the states taking them fully off the board but cus of homelander

He basically screwing up the plan

naaah from his looks it looks like hes holding back lol he wanted the milk

He need to focus more than ever since s3

Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.

Nah he thought about it

​@@treek10k The first part of your message was good but then you ruined it with the pagan Rome eternal torment/ immortal soul nonsense. This isn't the gospel. The lake of fire is real but it's not for unending torment. It's for destruction. Hell is an anglo word for Sheol/Hades/The Grave. It's the state of the dead. Not an actual place.

Well he always considered him the 3rd guy after maeve and him

@@willg1088What about OG Noir

He is like his dad in more ways then we thought

@@mrmccrunchymcdonald2966 OK 4th guy

@@mrmccrunchymcdonald2966Honestly if we are considering A-trains powers hes probably around equal to Maeve. He has super strength and super speed. Nobody can keep up with his attacks if we are being real.

I’m pretty sure A train knew this would happen and made sure his family was safe in case the worse case scenario happened.

I imagine the CIA took them to a far away safe house at MM's prompting.

@@TedShatner10​​⁠yeah cause his brother wouldn’t have taken A-Train’s word alone

They left in a train 🚆

Yeah she knew Homelander wouldnt control himself.

*couldnt

It was definitely after that she realized she had to hide stuff from him for his own sake

Homelander is self-destructive and that is why she never told him anything

She threw her notebook down on the table. This is part of her plan. At least, that's what I think. She was acting upset in the hallway because she knows Homelander can hear/see her.

Yet Like stand Edgar all it takes is to chastise homeland or about himself and he falls right in line but she doesn’t have that pizzazz that makes up Stan Edgar she just talked herself out of an early grave but she didn’t really talk herself out of anything bigger than that

@@mattmetawolf8634 She's got the intellect to match Stan, but not the wisdom or charisma.

⁠@@bruhvenantI’ve been noticing that parallel a lot in this dynamic with homelander this season with her. It’s like homelander found in sage. Someone who was able to check him and be respected to whilst being honest but not so much with her lack of follow through in power to dictate over him like Stan did. Enough to get the best out of his plans and work with him and save herself with how she undermines him and generally has a high ego herself. But unfortunately especially with firecrackers presence on his ego satiating the narcissistic grief he feels over losing a train. She couldn’t actually get with her words anything but him to listen and respect her in need. But not enough to hide things from and manipulate/control him even for his own good when proven so with the stuff with anika

@@mattmetawolf8634the pizazz and the direct power. But yeah it’s unfortunately not enough. As they can both disrespect him and tell him about himself but just one has more of those two traits by a few factors than the other. One part of it being out of the others control since sage like with the doctors again. Is being punished by having to be punished by a bigger ego. She basically says the same “you’re not a god and you’re gonna be the reason you fail in your company and goals” dig as Stan

​@@bruhvenant She doesn't have the charisma because Stan is played by an actor who is world class at playing clever geezers. The wisdom? She could have got A-Train killed easily but was clearly trying to control Homelander's random killing boner.

Ffs His dad death was an accident And Hugie is responsible for Popclaw death Stop blaming Homelander for everything

⁠@@Awelbeckkpretty sure he meant soldier boy and stormfront

@@Awelbeckk soldier boy is not dead. nobody mentioned pop claw?

@@Awelbeckk Think you missunderstood this comment buddy

@@Awelbeckkr/whoosh

Thats the point, hes so narcissistic he doesn’t even realize how he treats people

Homelander is the biggest hypocrite ever, doesnt need him but then is actually shocked that A-train betrays him?

he is just like soldier boy

​@BillySole no but soldier boy is good because..... .

@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 what?

Classic narcissism...Homelander mistreats everyone around him and then has the audacity to be surprised when it turns out maybe they dislike him.

@@ziweiyuan Almost everyone at Vought wants to cut ties with Homelander so no surprise here

I feel like Homelander looks like he's genuinely sad about A-train because he's gonna miss A-train being his punching bag

​@@deltax8202atleast he still have the deep (and black noir if he wasn't as black noir that much)

I wouldn't call it luck.

@@jhasuatapia2962 he had respect for her because she wasn't scared of him, and she was blunt with him especially when it came to constructive criticism.

Not luck, but bravery. Homelander doesn't kill anyone who isn't afraid of him.

That she was. Lucky enough to walk out of that office with her limbs still attached

@@ChicagoScorpion Naaah he needs her brain . He can threaten her when he wants to know something.

*2:26

He wasn't even mad at her, and she was like, "Yep okay"

Sounds more like Antony Starr than Homelander, and was Firecracker breaking character with what sounded like a giggle as she scurried away?

@@wtexas11she was saying “mhm”

imagine she teams up with the boys next season, and homelander's ultimate mistake was leaving her alive so she could team switch.

@@CosmosGatitowhy would she team up with the boys 💀 what’s even the logic behind that

​@@tengu8560i feel like shes on her own side throughout this all. She doesnt like vought, she doesnt like homelander, and she probably doesnt like the boys but i can see her kindaaaa cooperating with them out of spite

​@@HalluceraShe's sort of screwed. She knows she has no place in Vought's world order, she has no place in whatever world Homelander wants.

she would never work with the boys against homelander. she's a supe supremacist, she supports homelander's goals.

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Facts

The fact that 'fat shamed' is included on this list at all is hilarious.

@@joshgrant2269 cunnilingus and psychiatry brought us to this

Didn’t he force him to kill popclaw, or am I mistaken?

bro….

Bro

Bro

Brooo

Bro….

Her ego couldn’t really handle it either, funnily enough

I mean if I were sage I wouldn't want to dumb myself down so a narcissist man child can keep his ego intact.

​@anthony-be6fl she's actually pretty dumb for a genius character, tbh

@@decker.2425 I would argue more that her arrogance causes her to make dumb decisions. I think she's playing everyone tbh

​@@decker.2425She's not dumb, she's stupid. On some level she knows she's doing stupid shit, but her ego won't allow her to stop.

Nah, he was about to fold 💀

Bro was having second thoughts staring at those jugs

The funny thing is she isn't really written as a genius. She is written to be smart, sure, but mostly she is written as manipulative and controlling.

​@@Michael-bn1oiwell we're not here to see her recite mathematics.

​@@stitch01thats not intelligence, shes a "smart" character written from the viewpoint of a dumb person. The largest reason alot of intelligent people develop impostet syndrome is due to undervaluing their skill sets because they think others are like them. Her plans had zero fail safe contingencies and never factored the actors that were in the plan and thejr ability to splinter off. Death note does smart better, attack on titan does smart better. Being manipulative and constantly failing isn't just ego, it's idiotic when you are dealing with a loaded gun(homelander)

​@@paveesfox375There's equally as much 'dumb' smart people as 'smart' smart people. Look at Edison, or Nikola. They were extremely intelligent, yet prone to stupid mistakes constantly. They were both extremely arrogant and egotistical. Furthermore, Death Note is not 'smart' smart it's 'dumb' smart. The characters there superhumanly intelligent. L has the combined intelligence of 3 full FBI labs combined. He stopped WW3 when he was 8. Light is more realistic, but even then he acts stupid. Like when he failed to control his emotions during the Lind. L. Tailor incident, or how he spared his girlfriend (I cannot remember her name right now for the life of me) despite her hindering his plans more than helping. Even after Rem died Light still kept her around, partially leading to his downfall. Then there's his underestimation of N. His entire handling of the Third Kira situation is a disaster. He failed to take into account the stupidity of his own followers, leading directly to his death. Even in death Light stupidly believed he could still win. Sister Sage is more realistic than them. She didn't stop WW3 before hitting puberty. She isn't a super genuis. She is a genuis. Her ability to manipulate others, get inside their head, and her foresight are admirable qualities. Moreso than Light's blind arrogance and overconfidence. I haven't watched AOT, but from what I heard Eren isn't exactly the brightest bulb in the shed. In fact no one there is especially intelligent, or clever. The series is driven by plot contrivance after plot contrivance. But that's only what I heard so I could be wrong. My point is that there are numerous forms of intellect. It also equally as many forms of stupidity. Humans are not machines. We are all unique to some extent and individualistic. Just because Sage doesn't fit your definition of 'smart' doesn't maker her stupid. It does, however, give away your core values and what you define as intelligent. I'm not judging, just stating a fact.

@@paveesfox375 I dont know, the fact she left her notebook makes me thinks she had contingencies, fail safe Im not sure. But why did she still confront homelander in his vulnerable state even after he directly threatened her? If he left her alive maybe he would be prone to check up on what she wrote in there. He's very upset but still let her walk its very weird coming from him

I think that's the point. the writers of this show have severe TDS and have a twisted caricature view of conservatism. Course most people knew that in the beginning, but it wasn't as bad as it is this season and was willing to be overlooked. But now, it's like the writers want to be so incredibly obvious about it because they want the viewer to know, that's who they don't like, all because the actor of homelander did such an incredible job, while still having charisma and even on a grotesque level, still has fans.

@@AgentExeider naw actually firecracker isn't too much of a carcirature if we're looking at some of the anchors on fox news for examples

@@AgentExeider yeah we literally had a fox news anchor sh*t on a guy because he's indian and most of the fanbase agrees, so I think firecracker is quite an accurate depiction of conservatism.

@@AgentExeider She is literally a replica of mtg what do you mean lol

@@AgentExeidercry about it

Homelander never knew what he wanted, he says he's no longer interested in being loved by people but shows the opposite another day, he hires Sage because he's tired of being surrounded by people who always agree with him but at the same time he refuses to listen to Sage and has screwed up her plan to get more information to trap A-train and the boys.

Imagine him keeping her alive in the same state as stormfront and essentially using her as a slave

She knows that he can just Paralyse her

If her heart gets stabbed she dies like she said

what look of fear lol

@@thedislikebutton1907 subtle flicker in the eyes

What did she mean by that

​@@Kay9nine9 she's racist

@@Kay9nine9 she was being racist

@@Kay9nine9 During the jim crow era when a black person stood up for themself or wasn't acting accordingly to southern etiquette, typically in the South a southerner would consider this behavior "Uppity" and that a black person should "know their place". I believe that is what Firecracker is referring to with Sage

@@Tranquility._ Yeah, basically saying A-Train doesn't know his place

Bro

@@JuliusBowden-fp1dx Bro.....

@@ProtoMarcusBro!

​@@-Xeno-AnimsBro

Bro?

I mean, I'd argue that she isn't the dumb person. Emotionally/socially dumb, maybe, but she definitely saw the bigger picture and anticipated what would happen as per her plan. The problem though, was Homelander. Him with all his narcissism and ego, he couldn't just leave it all to Sage and wanted to take action as quick as possible. His actions are driven by emotion, not reason, unlike Sage. Sage was obviously the more intelligent person, but against Homelander she just couldn't do anything.

Sage is proof that a character is only as smart as it's writer(s)...

Not Ego Temporary Lobotomy: It is shown that Sage occasionally lobotomizes herself for recreational purposes, which seems to bring her to average or below average intelligence until her healing factor repairs her brain. This condition can also be caused by brain damage; and if severe enough, it may even cause Sage to speak out sentences that are near gibberish and ad lib. If one of the projects she is managing goes catastrophically wrong while she is lobotomized, she will be unable to correct it. This could be extremely disastrous if those taking orders are unaware of her condition, which she might not think to inform them of. This can be seen when Mothers Milk had shot her in the head during Tek Knight’s party, where Homelander had tried to get her help in manipulating and convincing the affluent guests to support their cause, Sage was unable to do so and left him hanging in the air to improvise, with Victoria ending up saving him in the end. Human Durability: Unlike her teammates in the Seven, Sage is only as durable as a normal human, leaving her vulnerable to conventional means of assassination, except for her head, which she regenerates. Psychological Mental Exhaustion: Since she lobotomizes herself to relax, it can be assumed she often finds her superhuman intelligence overwhelming.

I think its more as Morty says, "When you're an asshole it doesn't matter how right you are. Nobody wants to give you the satisfaction". Sage might be right, but she was condescending to Homelander when he was vulnerable and hurt. It would have cost her nothing to apologize and give him an non-condescending explanation. or you know, tell him what her plan was so she didnt look like she was just trying to save her own skin.

​@@Sahil-er5islogically you dont cover for the leak your trying to use you tell your leaders that your ussing the leak you dont just keep that a secret thats stupid to do

I feel like I've been stabbed in the heart

Oof, madone! 🤟🏻

His name is Clarence.

“I’m the worlds greatest honorary or excellence in sanitation superhero”.

@@justjoshua5759 Deep is a real come-from-behind kind of guy

Nah. She sounds genuinely upset that he broke his promise. Her voice cracked.

especially leaving her notebook there for him to find. maybe. as upsetting as it is, she probably knew this was coming, being the smartest person.

​​​​@@artemisfalcone3988 It could be part of an act, don't forget the shot of her leaving her notebook behind. She knows Homelander's instability and insecurities would never make him a feasible leader for the empire she wants long-term. She probably wants to manipulate Homelander into acting out by making him think everyone around him is incompetent, that way he can replaced by a more competent representative for the supes. Wouldn't be surprised if she's either working with Neuman or trying to pit the Deep against Homelander to destabilize the Seven.

Her plan most likely involves betraying Homelander from the start. "Like Ceasar"

@@artemisfalcone3988I mean could be an act..now that she’s been in vought for a while she probably has info

9.07 🧐🧐🧐

RU-vid is putting replies on random videos from other videos.

Because Noir wasn't repulsive to her I guess

​@aliensoapmonkey4417 I don't think so with this one lol. He's making reference to the last part of this episode

@@Nognamogo Yeah, I spoke too soon. However, it’s has been happening and it’s whacky.

he might need her for later

then that would make him the Dumbest Supe of all time

the writing on the show is pure ass now, many inconsistencies

@@Afflictamine What

@@Afflictamine bro ep 6 is shit not mean writing is bad now

Beacuse Stan Edgar was right homelander is nothing but a bad product

In his own twisted way, Homelander saw his OG the 7 team as friends/family. He just doesn’t know how to treat people at all and thus they betray him.

​@@jaylenbrown8886The tragedy is, had Homelander actually been given a somewhat normal life and not been tortured, he may have been an OK person. Probably not great, but OK. He at least tried to be a good-ish father, he sort of has an idea of how to be a good friend, he is just so used to people abusing him that he doesn't think it's abnormal for him to use his own powers to torture people.

I think he thinks he can make use of her one day, which is partially why Sage looks so afraid

He respects sage just like stan edgar. His immaturity gets in the way of making better decisions.

Say what?

or madelyns replacement

Do not insult stromfront like this

Nah, Stormfront was basically sister sage and Maeve and firecracker combined. She was manipulating him with her own agenda (which is what sister sage was probably doing) and also playing to his need for love and affection (which is what firecracker is doing) and he was also physically attracted to her (like he was to Maeve). You cannot compare firecracker to Stormfront because she is only one of these and Stormfront was all 3. Stormfront managed to exert some form of control over Homelander whereas the relationship between Firecracker and Homelander is completely one sided.

Only thing they have in common is the racism

TEN thousand suns 😭

I can’t think of who else she’s talking about that he can’t defeat

@@ShinjiTimCHomelander could have killed Butcher earlier in the season. If Sage is talking about anyone, it’s either Soldier Boy (physically) or Stan (mentally).

@@markrobinson9394 No Maeve? Or one of the kids from Gen V? People say Maeve only lost the fight because she was a drunk, if she’s sober she’s a much better fighter. No?

@@markrobinson9394She was probably talking about Stan, homelander is stronger than soldier boy

@@user-vk7nh8yo4v Stronger, yes. But Homelander is always at risk of having his powers stripped by Soldier Boy. Now that I think about it, she was perhaps talking about Homelander himself, as his ego and craving for love are always his biggest weaknesses.

me too. Even then season 4 has been disappointing other than sage, a-train, hughie, and homelander.

Should’ve watched the episode

@@BlackDiamond2718season 4 was peak you trippin

​@@sticks_studiosHQ found the dementia joe

​@@bloodcrusader817Live unemployed reaction

Narcissists always play the victim

He hand picked the seven himself and a train did kill his girl for homelander so it must’ve felt like he was loyal

He'd be proving her point and his ego can handle that. It's the same reason why he never just lasered Stan Edgar.

Someone pointed out that he doesn't like to kill people who stand up to him. If you do your best to not act afraid of him, his own ego doesn't know how to handle it

That didn't even feel like Homelander lmao it felt like an everyday old man when there's titties up close to his face haha

Not smart enough to know when to shut up.

The downfall of a lot of intelligent people are their egos

She isn't very smart. Everything she does hsppens offscreen lmao

You only get ahead testing fate or you always be in the spot crying "why you never took a chance"

@@jackcarver5412there’s point that mindset isn’t always going to work in your favor and can lead to a very very bad ending.

The main problem is that Her boss is an idiot that only wants milk and attention

smartest person in the world. proceeds to make sketchy deals in full shining gold superhero costime on the streets.

Shes supposedly smart yet just randomly knows stuff that are impossible for anyone to know. Just say shes omnipotent or psychic not that crap

@@Iianator she stalls if u didn’t already know

@@lesliethomas9532 Doesn't answer any of the raised questions

at ryan or himself

What do you mean?

Almost like that's what happened in the video. It's 2024 spoilers for popular shows are everywhere.

​@@docnightmares8291remember Prosafiagamings old thumbnails?

so bro goes on yt looking for the boys content before watching the actual episode

@@hazy4366 you've never been recommended a video on youtube before?

Yep.😅

Like Father, like Son.