Homeless In Manchester | Britain's Forgotten Men 

Homeless have phones

Safer to walk from job to job then ,too.

@@rebeccaa6904 The bare minimum you need is a phone, internet connection, valid identification and a bank account to be able to receive the minimal help the idiots provide. And with no ID you can't really open a bank account, so these people are just stuck.

@@rebeccaa6904 that phone isn't worth a weeks rent in UK.

Your dad used to be a bum.

He’s clearly intelligent as well

He's a dick. Take it from somebody who survived on the benefit system for a long time. The only times I was "left out to dry" by the council or benefit system, was when I hadn't complied with their rules. And that's what a majority of these cases are. I've sat with soooooo many homeless. And all they can do is think "poor me", when in reality. They're causing their own situations by not following simple instructions.

@@Go-go-super-guru by the time they’re left tonne homeless, it’s because they’ve taken the piss one too many times out of the people who were trying to help them

@@Go-go-super-guru u wrong wrong wrong...I was homeless 10yrs total I was mentally I'll slipped through the net and for 3years I'd had not a penny off anyone not begged or sold myself but I became alcohol dependent. experienced some trauma and was vulnerable even got pneumonia n nearly died. There at sum point was poor me but survival kicks in and sometimes only way to cope is to abuse drugs drink, just to go to sleep is luxury cos ppl at risk n being hurt/attacked by ppl after a nite out or just to av a laugh has become sadly "expected" living in that bleak existence , belief is hard to muster wen u cold n wet n hungry! ps I'm now getting better I'm 16months sober got a flat n my health isn't great but volunteer at a soup kitchen wen I can.judgement isn't helpful it's just puts ppl down more it's unfair.

I live in Manchester, I used to really feel for the homeless, I still do some of them but I changed a lot of my views after I was living near the salutation army stop house, they turned our estate into a scumpit filled with dealers attacking old people, screaming down the street all night waking up kids, leaving needles in people's gardens for kids to find, shitting in everyone's gardens, it's easy when you're far away to feel empathy for them, it's only human but when you have to live besides them you realise the havok they cause and actually how little they care about anyone but themselves, I hope they all get clean and sorted but I know most of them don't care for that or anything else really.

He probably lacks social intelligence in recognising the social boundaries of people leading to him stealing from people.

Barrios Groupie Maybe you lack the social intelligence to realise that those buildings are sitting empty and unused when people are dying on the streets.

@@davidulanovsky8943 glad you said it mate, he is a clever man with morals in my eyes caring for others and not just wanting to get spaced out on what ever drugs they use

I wouldn’t take life lessons seriously off someone with 3 teeth and no eyebrows

Yeah , smart af that’s why he’s homeless

Absolutely

Bullshit. The state ain't doing shit to help anyone. Council is fucked. Privatisation here we come

yeah because wen they are breaking in someone elses property and damage everything they aren't doing anything wrong ofcourse..

They don't want them on the street and don't want them behind walls. WTF are the homeless meant to do?

Whilst even me uneducated works hard for a living,dont feel no sympathy for these wasters,blaming the world ,we have to make our own way in the world no sponge off state

@@chrisjones3901 I understand how you feel I graft my nuts off to cover my ends.. It's more complex.. Some folk can't fit in to society for many reasons.. I don't know the answer.. I also can't judge.. I can assure you the guy Chris in this film is lovely.. He sat near my work & we discussed many interesting things. Not once has he asked me for anything or been negative in anyway.. He's a great reader & just sits.. I probably bother him with my questions but he's never rude..He doesn't claim either, he's just a nomad that doesn't cope with the regime..

Chris Jones can’t sponge off the state when you’re homeless. They don’t even have an ID, do you know the hoops it takes to even get on the dole? I’m sure Chris would rather be working and living in a house

Well not according to his brother,or his mum, if he that keen rather than spend his begged money he could pay to stay in a hostel, the amount he had in his hands could easily pay for food ,board and saves money,he wants government money to pay for drugs ,he said it himself it is not his divine right to be looked after,bad choices he makes ,tuff I dont care one shit about him or his blanket friends ,I have been on the bread line with no money to spare and two kids.i put all my mo ey on my kids food and clothes and warm house,did without for myself,hand me down clothes,cheaper food for me,used my brain,survival can be achieved in many different forms,that bloke teeth disgusting through smoking.i managed to get a business going that my chance to work,he says he not want to be told what to do,he could of started his business and none dictates to him,and no it doesn't cost money to set up a business I did it for £200, he makes more than that in two days,he a low life wouldnt waste my piss on him,

@@chrisjones3901 How can you sponge off the state with no address or ID, I await your answer oh wise one.

Was a minor and on good behaviour... And it clearly worked for him despite prison being proven at being ineffective at stopping addiction and reducing violent crime

just a lentil Jails are full to bursting and have been for some time.The mainstream media won’t tell you this it’s the word from the street

Travis Rabble prison should be about reforming not revenge. He was still a kid, born in the wrong part of town, he is a better person now and that is what matters. He didn't kill anyone.

He changed didn't he? He is now an adult and a different person.

He's been sentenced 2 years.

Exaclty! Not to mention the hoops to jump thru for both, like references or a stable financial situation etc.

Ellen G I found a job homeless slept near arndale centre for 4 weeks now full time employed own flat your statement's invalid

Lucky guy/girl there are people that can break a cycle but that does not make it invalid thousands of people get trapped in the cycle

Of course you can get a house without a job in the UK lol

and a bank account . companies refuse to give cold hard cash like they did in the noughties.

@Goober Pile Yup, There are the people who grow cocoa beans and don't even know what its used for. All they know is that it would take a months wage to buy a chocolate bar. Here is a video on that. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zEN4hcZutO0.html There are people in the Philippine slum of Manila who go through the daily garbage of their local fast food chicken joints where they pick the half-eaten chicken, collect it, pick the edible bits and discarding the bones, wash it, cook it into a dish that they call "Pag-Pag" and in turn sell it off to the folks in the slums. I always thought I would want to visit the main city, Manila, but thank god my parents were born and raised in the rural countryside. It was very nice spending a month out there and meeting my father's side and seeing his childhood home/town. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-c7gDBVmgIRA.html There is a majority of poverty-stricken folk in Haiti who make "biscuits/cookies" out of mud Here is the YT video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-s3337cj4sJQ.html. I think everyone who thinks they have it bad should watch these 3 short videos just for a reality check to see if you are truly as poor as these folk. It's just an eye-opener. I know I can't complain because I'm definitely well off compared to any one of these people. I think the fact that I'm on a computer with some soda and a take-out pizza for dinner, means I can't complain.

Oh there it is again, that new disease......depression, it’s taken the place of that old disease......back ache, a benefits guaranteed illness !

@@moomoopuppy5810 I've seen that piece regarding pag pag... Others as well but that one really hit me. .😥

@Goober Pile I'm mainly speaking about myself. Actually, earlier this month, on a Tuesday, I went to the movies to watch 2 movies and walked by what I assume was a man "sleeping rough" on a bench outside the Outback Steakhouse. It was raining and after the second movie, I went back to my car and found that I lost my keys and my cell phone went dead. I was there sitting on a bench at 1am. It started to rain harder and was going to sit down on the Outback Bench, but couldn't because it was occupied by the guy sleeping rough. I decided to get out of the rain and walked from the theater to the bus stop to get out of the rain. I was miserable and had to sit there for a few hours. During that time I had again realized how good I had it, and that I couldn't complain. I knew I had a house to go to, where my next meal was coming from and had the option of deciding what I would eat when I got home. It turned out the keys were turned in to the box office. It probably dropped out of my pants pocket while pulling out my smuggled-in can of coke and bag of gummy bears.

​@John Brighton I do agree that people who are physically & emotionally healthy able should be forced to work. If you are just on jobseekers & deliberately ruining interviews or only going after jobs you have no qualifications for, you should be forced to volunteer or work a labouring job. However I do not approve of cutting benefits of elderly & actually severely disabled people. The new standard that if you can walk 20m then that means you are not disabled is ridiculous. There should be levels & those who need a bit of help walking or with sight etc should get a bit of money or if the government want to pay directly for their taxi or whatever fine. If a taxi enabled a guy with cerebral palsy to get to & from work without being too knackered to do his job, we should be commending his work ethic, not cutting his taxi money. They should focus on the people who are lying & choosing not to work, not disabled people who are really struggling. There are more people on benefits due to poor parenting, lack of guidance, no youth clubs etc & social services not telling the parents how to parents better & then following up. Like take your kids to the park for free rather than letting them get wound up staying inside while you sit on your backside watching TV for 12 hours a day. Poorly parented kids have more kids they poorly parents I don't know why the government isn't focusing on that large demographic rather than cutting care for the elderly & disabled.

Well said.

I used drugs drink when rough sleeping to get me through I'm 10 yrs clean own place 4 cats my family kids grandchildren by grace God anyone one pay cheque away especially cost living crisis

Exactly ❤

- Michael Owen

Needs money for the reload.

He says rolling a joint

they are dressed well, arent skinny, which means they are eating just fine, having electronics like smartphone and others, having money to drink and do drugs. where do they get money from, if they arent working??

AndrewProblematic the state obviously

Love to see what you lot would do

cluecumber smackheads and thieves should be left to rot. Go away you snowflake.

i don't see how you would get that from what i wrote. it's the government's job to work for all the country's citizens. if you don't take care of those on the bottom, problems will multiply and eventually affect everyone.

Remove 'poorly' and replace with 'purposefully'

cluecumber you don’t understand all the uk government is doing is appeasing the voters (the pensioners).Thats all they have to do to get voted in.The conservatives own all the media BBC itv etc.Fait a compli

Nicky Power it’s called generous people giving money

@nevaeh yh but if he stopped that shit he might be able to actually get a job

@nevaehok so he's just lazy asf then, giving stoners a bad name world wide

@@ryhu5642 world wide? Chill lol

@@ryhu5642 idiot

He’s a lazy selfish moron

Nowadays its either your parents are split ir they’re still together and fighting all the time. For me its like that anyway. Loads of my mates dont have dads and shit and then they go and get into trouble. My parents are still together atleast, but they fight loads especially around Christmas and shit. Times are hard mate. All these kids without a mum or a dad spending time out on the streets and getting into trouble.

Yep

Yea its the rich fault

Well said Karl Marx, take a bow son

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Gotta have something if u have nothing looks like I have had to many pork pies

@@jasminechoo4004 you have had too many pork pies or Peter?

How?!

That is not right but neither is keeping criminals and junkies on benefits!!

Plus mate after paying into the system for over 40 yrs DWP have just informed me that I will not receive my state pension until I am 67yrs and 9 months old and not 65 so instead of it being 4 yrs away it’s now 6 yrs 9 months

What else have they got to do but get to their appointments on time. probably sleeping in after a night on God knows what or out robbing some old age pensioner and gun poi t

​@@vsculpt But also searching for new place to sleep that night, search for food, you know....SURVIVE. That doesn't mean they don't find the appointment important, it's pure survival mode, first things first

there is enough shame. what we should be doing is helping these people

It's governments fault

@@ab1299 governments fault they steal, smoke weed, do drugs, commit violence? and oh have 6 kids when they cant afford it. Get a grip government is not your babys daddy. Cant feed dont breed.

@@skiddybop780 the government is the one who helps citizens what is the government here for then.

@@ab1299 to provide services and help society. Not pay for people to do nothing. What happens if everyone decides to do what these low lifes do and sit on their arse and not work. Hows the government going to pay for everyone to do nothing? If your working you are paying taxes for these mugs to sit around and smoke drugs all day and think they are bad arses.

Lol

Wow I found a normal person on the internet that's a first 😂

Exactly; someone with a heart. . .They need Jesus is what they need. These commenters are so IGNORANT on all the 'forgotten men' documentaries.. May they all get judged on judgement day is all I can say. NO compassion at all. Well done Shannon Salt; totally agree with you; 'There for the grace of God'. That could be Us.

Couldn't have put it better myself. Not everyone is the same. Yes some people choose that life but not many. It's often a catalogue of things which happen at the wrong times in their lives and even though they can be small things that go wrong, when it continues and you cant always come back from it, you can, through no fault of your own, become unemployed and/or homeless. For the first time, we are seeing people becoming homeless at much later stages of their lives. People who are middle/upper middle classes are now becoming homeless and are on the streets. Something is very wrong with this country and no one seems to care. Well no one in the government anyway. Sadly it's only gonna get worse now universal credit is getting rolled out......

some people receive benefits cos they are hard up and struggling dumb wit

Whats with the rudeness?...

@@takeonemusic5537 most of them just scum bludgers

@@galegrazutis185 ur the reason why we can't help them out and sort Britain out before it collapses

amigo mac the teeth get me going

"piss on your doorstep" is that a euphemism for sexy time??

Your spot on

Probably bashed some poor elderly person for their pension. Or robbed some shopkeeper!

He's drinking from a closed bottle 😂

Ah I just started reading the comments to see if anyone knew if he was OK, is he doin any better?

@@lolmac6456 he was on crutches. but he seemed okay in himself, had a chat with him for a while. told him i’d seen the documentary which made him laugh. he was really nice tbh. spot him around deansgate mainly and always say hi when i do

The British government does help homeless people. If you become homeless in the UK, you should either go to your local council, or your local Shelter office. There's a housing charity called Shelter and the government houses people in hostels, supported accomodation, council houses, housing associations, and private rental market, through a benefit called Housing Benefit where the government pays your rent because you're on a low income.

Couldn't agree with a statement more. He's intelligent and switched on. Travesty, pompous, rubber lipped ponces "governing" us.

@@markswoman2134 it's a shame, people dying on our streets that have more humanity and dignity than the evil toffs that let them die

They are trespassing on private property. Man if they spent less on smoking God knows what and drinking and maybe even got a job they could rent somewhere!!?? PARACITES!!!

You can buy a phone in Asda. To get photo ID you need a counter signature from a professional, who the fucks going to vouch for any of these people. Also a phone can help you phone others when in trouble, what good is photo ID to someone who has no money?

It's not exactly rocket science to get a provisional driving license

@@emilywilson8289 you need an address for that!

MositCake may be he could use a day center address?

There scum and have tricked innocent into feeling sorry for them. I work in a job that deals with homeless alot of the time, all the ones ive dealt with have criminal records as long as your arm, from dealing drugs to robbing oap's the deserve to rot.

Holly Buckler they would much prefer some crack cocaine and heroin

Give them food, water, any spare change you have. Remember that most public toilets you now have to pay for. Most homeless people in the street want a safe place like a hostel to go to having enough money for just one night in a warm bed will keep them holding on a little longer.

No, it was just some guy wearing a hat. Come to think of it, Kevin Federline is just some guy wearing a hat.

they're not helping themselves by still drinking and smoking weed yet they claim they have no money

Ro x How would you like it if you were homeless?

Tbh I don't mind marijuana. It's alcohol that's really bad for the people. And all the other man made drugs are bad for the people as well.

Their is a difference between taking care/helping and enabling. I guarantee those boys are still there, still jobless, and still not doing shit to improve their situation.

How about all the food you need? You can afford that in your country?

It's cheap if you know where to find it and you can't exactly pay for rent with 20p's

And I know I would want something to smoke if I'd been dealt the same hand as them and I know you would too in the same situation no matter how much you deny it to yourself

Delusional you pal.

mysterious yellow creature init

its a cig

in most case, is a mental issue. UK is some of the top Economy in the World, if I was able legaly find a job as a foreigner ( not anymore in the UK) why local guys can do it same. And as far as I know, UK have a good (if not very good) social system, able to help those ``poor`` fellow.... As I said, in most case , those guys have a family issue & and another related issue, as a drog adiction, problem with mental stability, you name it.... I wish those guys, that one day, they will find thenself.

GERMALEAN88 G So right it could happen to Anybody!! I feel for them so much

imanishay when the police move homeless people and their belongings they often lose some of those belongings including identification. Whether it’s a mistake they do that or not, you tell me.

And playstation.

mate that was clearly a simple spelling error..and how do you know they're a yank, fuckin Sy Parrish over there hah