“Bronx of Britain" - Moss Side, Manchester 

Theres always one person who comments on any video about British gang culture claiming America is so much rougher, 1 difference in size 2 difference in population 3 firearms laws....... so tbh yeah America probably is more dangerous but who actually cares? its like childish playground antics my dad is harder than your dad lol grow up

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What a righteous surprise at 4.08 Dennis Brown R.I.P singing 'Here I Come' That's a piece of Reggae history right there !

Good old days ... not a single men in trackies even the smackheads are wearing ties

Don't know if it's what life was like in the 80's/90's or just the fact that I was a teenage boy but I was forever on the lookout for gangs of lads in Manchester. Some real nasty nihilistic scrotes around then: muggers, bullies, psychos who wouldn't think twice about throwing a brick at your head etc.

I grew up in Hackney London but moved to America in 2000 .everybody thinks that life over here is so dangerous I live in New York and trust me the streets of London are much worse.we may have a bigger gun problem but that's only because they are legal here.every time I come home home to London you can feel the tension in the air all the stabbings etc you see people fighting in the streets all the time.

Thanks for uploading. Interesting watch.

This was filmed in 1992.

Anyone else notice the councilors name was MR HOOD? Lol always something to smile about!!!

I buy crack from moss side every day and an never once had trouble

I started watching this again and forgot about the wonderful footage of Dennis Brown R.I.P singing 'Here I Come' at 4.08...such a beautiful/spiritual piece of Reggae history right there...The true Rasta culture/lifestyle/religion is totally opposite to the crime and gangs shown in this documentary...Rasta is love...One Love.

I lived in moss side & Hulme from 86-2002. Very exaggerated the papers full of Gunchester shit,bad news shock horror sell papers. Yeah shit happened but it was best place I've lived. Great community, lovely people helped each other out.

Manchester was the worst place in the UK in the 90s but now its now its south London and north Birmingham

Remember when organised crime in Moss Side turned pretty medieval, more and more people getting hacked with machetes (in addition to firearms) etc. Then the police pretty much banged up everyone who wasn't squeaky clean in the entire area. Crime plummeted after that but left a vacuum for other areas to take advantage of.. Salford, Cheetham Hill, even Scousers, Brummies & Southerners.

i am from cheshire and i was in my local nightclub,bit of a shit night so me and four mates went to manchester.most places would not let us in but we ended up in a club that was 99% black and five white lads from cheshire.this was about 1994 and we sounded scouse to them.got talking to a lad and he invited us to moss side to a party.we are all pissed so we agreed to go.got to the party and its full of blacks and the kitchen door was a bar with a old boy selling beers and the decks are sounding out and a nice smell of weed filling the rooms.i remember we were ripping each other about football as we are all liverpool supporters.after a couple of hours we went to another party which looked the exact same as the last place.we left about six in the morning. ANYWAY FANTASTIC PEOPLE AND GREAT BANTER.we would often drive around moss side in my mates car and buy some nice weed from the lads on the bikes.good days

Ian wearing the fila, a bet he was out of business after about a week of giving out tick hahahaha

Nowadays Moss Side is full of Uni Students and ket heads, no longer a dangerous place

what a grim situation.."the betting shop dealing operations looks."

robert lazaar the brief who everyone went to in the 80/90s on princess rd. The precinct and the bookies brings back memories. Also remember sailor, top lad, alot of good ppl went down in the early 90s. Thankfully calmed down now but anything can spark it off round here.

The NIA centre, I used to watch the boxing there when Phil Martin was running Champs Camp Boxing Club. He was a great human being and went too soon.

The politicians are the main one's. In all countries

I do miss the Blues party’s from back in the day

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Not seen this one I left Manchester 11 years ago but any one who has lived in any area from miles platting to cheeth hill and miles platting you can see where I'm going with this there is all ways a rough area no matter where you live

Well thats the first time ive seen a gangster work a sowing machine with such finesse !

brings back so many memories watching this , happy days and dark days poor times , ,in the 90 s people walked round all black waterproofs ,Bally's up , crews of them on the street , don't see this anymore

All changed after all these years.. History.

Back when this was filmed 92/93 it was dangerous just walking down claremont rd. Me and a mate was stood 4 shops up from benji when he was shot. And the bookies in the prescent all the dealers hid the brown an rock in holes in the wall, when a buyer came in the dd would reach in the hole in wall an get what he wanted. Claremont rd was just one massive front line before Operation china pretty much closed it down where you got the best brown, white or weed for the cheapest prices. The best sensi, weed you ever smoked from moss side, all my family right back to1920s born an bred and proud of it. Its home an i love the place although things are changing fast.

I went school with Eggie RiP. Eggies death was not gang related :-( wondering if I should even continue watching this documentary if straight off the bat their facts are incorrect.

Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"

So this is what bugsy malone raps about..

Back then £500 was like 1k so 50k a year at 14yrs old is not bad

3:22 ...councillor My Cool Hood...😂

Moss Side has always been like that. Dangerous area if you aren't from there. I remember the riots of 1981. Completely aimed at the police, not as an opportunity to loot shops. Different times!

Moss side today is a university student area i must say it has really changed from the videos i have been watching from the 90s more young people are in uni or college

By chance I've just come across the video and wow brings back so many memories of living in the area. It just became the norm the stabbings, the shootings and just violence in general. I even went to school (Bishop Bilsborrow ) With Darren Samuels RIP! I even remember the riots in 81 and I was only 7 but remember it like it was yesterday. People to this day talk about Doddington and Gooch gangs. In the end the area beat me so moved away from Manchester. RIP to all those that have lost their lives through gang culture!

3:45 to 5:15 I would put the description of Moss Side as an highly concentrated area of the African-Caribbean community this where many or most of Manchester's African-Caribbean population reside.

I used to Live in Moss Side. Walking home at night was quite scary tbh

Immortal technique and Royce da 5 9" are some of the FEW exceptions. Wu tang are phenomenal, but BDK, Rakim, Ect were the bollox.

I'm sorry but if Ian is wearing one his 'designs' I think it's best he stays in peddling drugs, he ain't no Hugo Boss!!

So Robert gets stabbed in the heart goes into intensive care gets out and gets back on the heroin after being in a coma 🙄

Been to many an ‘all nighter’ at the ROAB club moss side in the mid to late 80’s never witnessed any trouble

I'm from South Wales, Iand even I heard about the troubles up there gang land killings.

I find it fascinating that everyone who is killed because of gang related incidents are such wonderful lovely people were they part of a gang?

I live in Salford where we have similar problems to moss siders...but I live in a nice part of the city

read most books on south manchester gangs same old nonsense needless violence all that pain and death for nothing

does anyone know the video where two Manchester cops try to buy a gun in mosside??? it could have been a BBC documentary

you know it has nothing to. with who has more or more worst im from Chicago Illinois usa and fuck the bull i think its all stupid having to watch your back for all the wrong reasons fuck that there is so much the world has to offer and see and be apart of life is to beautiful to be setone one mind track

Rave days everyone went there after the hacienda ❤

What ever happened to the famous Doddington Man'Chinny'? This him? 'R v Simon Chin - attempted murder by a former gang member of a woman who suffered multiple stab wounds. This was a difficult trial with anonymous witnesses.'

Brixton in the early 80s was very similar if not worse.

there is no way that guy that makes clothes was a drug dealer......

Community worker John Samuels believes police policies have made it that way. I was so surprised to find out that John Samuels was black. I've never heard of such a thing. A black person? Blaming police officers for an area's decline through drugs and gang violence? How rare.

Me in mosside rn chilling with my family. A guy got stabbed at the end of the street

It claims to be about moss side and keeps mentioning things from other parts of Manchester that have nothing to do with it.

To be honest most kids in england rely on there fists not a strap , also it's more rough in England bcoz firearms are banned but still around , nobody sells guns in shop

Delroy Brown shot more times than 2pac

Trinidad gang wars mostly in lavantille, east west corrodor. It gets bad

I used to go to moss side has a kid from Leeds. With my family who had Friends there played on ALEXANDER PARK all day loved it never had no problems. STILL THINK ITS THE BEST PLACE IN ENGLAND. 🇮🇲👍🇮🇲

We will never forget the good times but we will never hate the bad time.😊😢❤

"8 hrs a day 6 days a week" and Sunday they are all going to church no selling drugs LOL!

on the cover page it looks like his holding up his miss's pantys like a trophy... along side his crew .

55:27 "You just recognise it. . . Like you would an Escort"!

What's it like in moss side now ?

I get really eerie vibes from watching videos before 2000 massive difference in technology but it looks more like late 80s to me but who would I know I was born in 96

Bugzy Malones uncle, none as "the gladiator" if u know, u know.

Went to moss side after the hacienda to an after party in a terraced house mad days probably 89 _92

Moss Side is not as bad as the media makes out

I was locked up with a few Mossy Men and they were all ruthless soldiers.

i was in moss side in the real early 90s. when they still had the crescent with all the hippy vws out the front. buzz rocks carribean burger van out the front.. proper names on the selling goons like terminator. sailor. predator. was some place back then

A once beautiful city.

Wonder whatever happened to Ian and his shellsuit designs? Hopefully he went back to selling crack 😂

this looks really old early 90s maybe ?

Always the same - bring the city value down , buy and sell to their rich investor friends. kick out the poor council housing tenants

Good old 90s, when " professional shop lifter " was job title, aways had a good time in Manni, safe as houses, good peoples, it's 2024 and I'm still going and got loads of good mates and associates 😊

I blame E numbers!!

What did you expect ? Pyramids and mega cities.

I lived in the North Bronx (Fordham Heights) for 3 years in the early 1990's. Manchester is not even close in comparisons to gang crime there. The South Bronx is even worse.

Turf wars Gun's Money Respect Yorkshires same

Scored nuff gear on the Gooch and the Pepper hill back in the 80s fucking war zone the po po didn't go near till op China

It would good if we legalised all drugs and completely cut of the money supply for all gangs. Heroin and cocaine are both available from any boots pharmacy, both in powdered form for injection. So I don't see how people can be upset at these guys selling the same two drugs

Appears to be holding large pair of knickers in thumbnail.

This is from the early 1990s

Johnson and Hancock between them unalived far more OAP’s let alone others - all without firing a single shot but the result far more devastating. I stayed in n Moss Side on and off early 90’s never saw any of this. Would walk home after midnight - not a scratch.

If people spoke to the police rather than allow drugs pushers and dealers to hide within the community then the young people wouldn't be being shot on the street. If you don't act like a community and don't fight to keep the crooks off the street, then you are allowing crooks to act as they wish. Don't blame the police for targeting everyone, if you don't tell them who the crooks are. The blood of these young men, is on the communities hands, they know who the drug dealers are, but they do nothing to bring these to men justice.

Miss these days

Good old days, eh. No mobile phones

~~~SCOTLAND/DUNDEE~~~

I am a White Guy but the Application Department to join a street gang is really slow in Inner London and 6 months later they STILL have not processed my application to join. I have all the credentials but prejudice in Society won't give a White Male like me the opportunity and the system is sooo unfair :(..I am very discreet, want to earn my p's and can speak Jafraican like a local although I am from Royal Windsor. The ONLY foreseeable problems are that I do NOT like pain and would have to grass and snitch to save myself and sometimes I might not be available as I host Dinner Parties so might have to leave the blag earlty in mid-crime or not attend at all,I'm afraid............ I still deserve a chance to show my skills though..:(

On what planet do you have bail for attempted murder

Things are just getting worse and worse in 2023.

THAT KID MAKING CLOTHES IS FUCKING VERY TALENTED...HOPE HE'S SOMETHING BIG TODAY...BEST OF LUCK MATE...GREETINGS FROM DUBLIN IRELAND

Robert Lizar (the peoples breif)aha.

SOMEONE PLEASE PRAY TELL...HOW MUCH IS AN EIGHTH OF WEED IN MANCHESTER...GREETINGS AND RESPECTFULLY YOURS FROM DUBLIN IRELAND

Also who were the main leaders at this time and current ones now.

Glasgow's the most violent city in Western Europe as I can bare witness to on many occasions😉

Why is it mainly blacks? Everywhere you go it’s the same old story

Here in Sweden they use military assault weapons, throw hand grenades and detonate bombs. Even at Police stations. Hence, the officers need protection coming to and leaving work. This is the new and defo more exciting Sweden. Anyone fancy coming to live here?

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Haha I'm Canadian and I know what yah mean about Americans claiming there more hood and they do have bigger cities and more projects but a ghetto is a ghetto I live in the hood we don't say eh or eh b'y here they do in like Newfoundland and like Winnipeg but if you were in my city you wouldn't be able to tell the difference from here or an American city