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Homemade Flat Lap: Part 2 Cheap,easy and effective 

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An updated video about my homebuilt flat lap, 5 dollar motor
scrap wood, costs vary but can be built for under 20 bucks

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@yu-gi-ohdestroyer5631
@yu-gi-ohdestroyer5631 9 лет назад
This was the best thing Ive seen so far on how to make one of these keep up the great work and thank you for the tutorial.
@zandemen
@zandemen 8 лет назад
Thanks for making this video, a very easy to replicate design! Most arbors are threaded the opposite of the rotation so there is no need for a second nut. If you can't find a left hand thread, you could always reverse the rotation of the motor.
@redeyestones3738
@redeyestones3738 3 года назад
Thanks, bud. Was hoping you'd do this. Ive been thinking about building something like this for a while now. Was just needing a little more detailed insight, and boom, here it is. I've been thinking about the drip system, and I think it would be fairly easy to run a hose to your working area, and buy a ball valve, and a small irrigation spigot (like 1/4" drip/spray fitting/ just hook the valve to the hose, pre spigot, and boom, you have flow control for around $20 including a small hose. Btw, got yourself another subscriber. Cheers
@lenk4108
@lenk4108 8 лет назад
I agree, thanks for sharing your setup in detail, here in Australia a cheap cabbing machine is around the $600.00 AU mark, looking at your setup, I think I have all I need in my shed. Cheers mate
@merrittm4
@merrittm4 9 лет назад
I got some motors, shafts, lap disk, and desire. Thank you so much Andy I will be in touch when I finish. Thanks again!!!.
@YosarianCat22
@YosarianCat22 10 лет назад
Thanks for the reply. Us DIYers need to stay tight. I plan to recirculate the dirty water to maintain the temperature. Be careful with the coffee machine heater. It gets very hot and may burn out without water to keep it 'cool'. You have probably already thought of this but what you have could also be used as a potters wheel if you put a speed control pedal on it. If you haven't thrown a pot, you have a very peaceful experience ahead of you. Try to find A New Pottery Technique on RU-vid. It shows an easy way to throw indentical pots, lids, plates etc. The dude is from Japan and his animations are very clear and a joy to watch. Keep thinking bro, Tom
@YosarianCat22
@YosarianCat22 10 лет назад
VERY COOL! One thing I did to stabilize my lathe is to put sand bags on the shelf between legs. This took all the vibration out of the lathe even though it was a cast iron unit. I will build mine of 4 X 4s & MDF with a good coat of Rhino Liner to keep the MDF from soaking up moisture. A drip system is a must. I plan to use a five gallon feed and a five gallon dump bucket with an inexpensive pump with a flow valve and nozzle. My basement is cold so I will put a water heater from a coffee maker to keep my hands from freezing. Thanx a lot. I now have a good winter project. Now to build a mini-diamond bandsaw and cabochon machine.
@lapidarybyandy
@lapidarybyandy 10 лет назад
Thank you for your kind words, i like that sand bag idea very clever, im using just a simple gravity feed for the water, the coffee heater idea is awesome,
@agateenchantmentrockwizard5969
@agateenchantmentrockwizard5969 4 года назад
Hi and thanks for the detailed walk through on your build, it is very detailed and helpful. Excellent job!
@jewelvibebabo
@jewelvibebabo 7 лет назад
Absolutely loved the original videos I saw {parts one and two}.Have not found the water-feed video yet.I have carefully harvested all the precious information both in the videos and the comments and the comments and,if I may,there is just one comment I would like to add.A massive morale booster to all those thinking of getting involved would be to see a rough stone at the start of the process and then a sample of the finished article at the end of the video just to show what can be achieved with basic equipment.That piece of agate(I think) was getting close to what I mean.Many thanks for sharing.Now please excuse me, I have a lapping-machine frame to weld together.
@lapidarybyandy
@lapidarybyandy 7 лет назад
Thanks for the kind words, I have been busy at work, but hope to put some more time in on my hobbies , I like the idea of a start to finish video , good luck and most importantly have fun!
@lapidarybyandy
@lapidarybyandy 7 лет назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-p0u81n8kfGI.html
@jonelmgren
@jonelmgren 10 лет назад
That is a cool flat lap - one other way to keep the nut from coming loose on start-up is to reverse the shaft rotation on the motor. Some motors show CCW wiring option on the motor info so it tightens on start-up and while running.
@lapidarybyandy
@lapidarybyandy 10 лет назад
yeah mine turns clockwise itd be best counterclockwise, ill look into the wiring thanks!
@evolvedou812b4
@evolvedou812b4 10 лет назад
lapidarybyandy switch the wires one the start capacitor will reverse the motor
@stonegoatpottery9733
@stonegoatpottery9733 8 лет назад
Nicely done! Thanks for all the tips and tricks. The extra info is excellent!
@ponkkaa
@ponkkaa 9 лет назад
I the process of making one of these. I used a stepdown pulley so I can slow it down for final polishing. I built it from junk I had in the basement. Old washing machine motor and such. Nice video.
@ponkkaa
@ponkkaa 9 лет назад
I also drilled some holes in the wooden disk and inserted some neodymium magnets to hold the steel lap plates.
@newearthclaypottery
@newearthclaypottery 10 лет назад
very cool I like to see people make their own tools and machinery
@HLB-cd9nl
@HLB-cd9nl 8 лет назад
This is amazing! I'm looking into starting lapidary and am so glad that there's help like this to get me started and going!
@woodhassarz
@woodhassarz 8 лет назад
Great job! Thanks for this follow up version with detailed instructions. You've inspired me to build one now
@lourias
@lourias 5 лет назад
I now use an old IV line with an adjustable flow wheel for my water cooling. I asked a nurse for an Saline IV bag and the line... no needles. Perfect.. I can adjust the flow anytime. I have 3 bags so I do not have to stop for too long.
@Barbershopglobes
@Barbershopglobes 4 года назад
I'm a nurse....i was just thinking that! Dial A Flow off EBay cheap. Also found vintage "MASH" gag gift vodka IV style set ups. Will be building my own for stained glass work.
@Barbershopglobes
@Barbershopglobes 4 года назад
Thanks!
@MrMalthusMusic
@MrMalthusMusic 8 лет назад
Simple and effective, great job. I am looking into polishing some cut glasses and your design looks like a great place to start. Highly preferable compared to spending $500 on a professional machine! Thanks :)
@h7oslo
@h7oslo 10 лет назад
Looks fine! No need to retain water in bowl. Pierce a hole that will drip into larger container below. Aquarium pump will provide water recycle if you wish. Vids of Myanmar cutters/polishers use twisted belt driven wheels.
@mcsmith732
@mcsmith732 9 лет назад
Thanks so much for putting this on youtube. This winter, I'm gonna see if I can find the right used motor and try to build one myself. There's another guy on youtube with a homemade faceter called a "template faceter". His name is jeriwykoff and the title is "The World's Most Inexpensive Faceting Machine". It certainly looks doable.
@Mrsilversmith69
@Mrsilversmith69 11 лет назад
Cool, nice job!! I should have taken pics of the one I made in the 90's using primarily wet automotive sand paper--- worked great
@merrittm4
@merrittm4 9 лет назад
Thanks for sharing. I want to make some of my own tools as well. I am just getting started. Now I know I need to get some motors.
@TheMboe76
@TheMboe76 4 года назад
Great build! I'm going to try to build one too. Lapidary equipment is so ridiculously over-priced and most of the same equipment can be built by an average do-it yourselfer.
@jeremydavis5473
@jeremydavis5473 6 лет назад
Well done. Easy to understand. I hope to make one myself.
@SleePyabad
@SleePyabad 10 лет назад
Great Video made it simple so simple that i will give it a go
@lapidarybyandy
@lapidarybyandy 10 лет назад
thanks, if you need any tips about constructing it let me know!
@sargentpepper8931
@sargentpepper8931 2 года назад
treadmill motors have a 1/2 inch threaded shaft . lap wheels bolt right on . left handed thread . i ,m running mine on small 12 volt battery . very powerful earth magnet motor . can be run on 24 volts with 2 batteries . any more than that may be too fast . got my motor from a treadmill someone put out for the trash .
@edgarscale
@edgarscale 8 лет назад
love it thanks, the music was great too...
@glennwoolum9457
@glennwoolum9457 10 лет назад
Wow! Even I could understand it. Great tutorial.
@lapidarybyandy
@lapidarybyandy 10 лет назад
thanks glen,
@racheln.w.3274
@racheln.w.3274 10 лет назад
Thank you for making that. I am SOO wanting to polish things that I cut, but the cost is so prohibitive for the "proper" machinery that I haven't been able to do it. Have you thought about making a cabbing machine?
@lapidarybyandy
@lapidarybyandy 10 лет назад
I already have a loritone arbor, only two wheels, i guess any arbor,or grinding machine will work as long as its spins the right speed ( about 2000-3600 rpm) ive not consider it maybe thank you for the kind words
@bleam6
@bleam6 6 лет назад
You should use lock washers. Also your "motor mount" is press or "chip" board not plywood. Either though weaken severely from small amounts of water.
@michaelwalker4456
@michaelwalker4456 8 лет назад
thats bad ass dude. nice job!!!!
@darrengosling2465
@darrengosling2465 10 лет назад
Fantastic stuff.
@maxken1199
@maxken1199 9 лет назад
Very nice any more tips.. Thank you for sharing
@mauricebalk4242
@mauricebalk4242 9 лет назад
This is pretty damn awesome.
@kolbiefarabee2668
@kolbiefarabee2668 9 лет назад
Hey there! I've watched your video a few times now and I'm in the process of making a flat lap machine using your design. Thank you for posting this video! I have a couple of questions. I was reading through the comments and saw that you don't use a backing when you are using the diamond grit discs? In your video you did use a wooden backer, did you make that yourself? How has the wooden backer held up? Do you use this machine for polishing? I'm hoping to make my machine with 3 different speeds so I can use it for high speed riding and low speed polishing. What do you use for polishing pads/machine?
@fizzedupslade4082
@fizzedupslade4082 8 лет назад
I really like your GLG. Please can you explain the electrics? The on/off switch, wiring etc?
@theamertureradioenthusiast3368
Hi great machine. How long do the sanding discs lasts for . Tia
@saoudkhadada3452
@saoudkhadada3452 7 лет назад
nice idea good luck
@jeffsheltman9219
@jeffsheltman9219 7 лет назад
Question... In your video I get confused. First I see you using a diamond disc then I see you using a wood backer and glue the diamond paper on it. I plan to make one myself but I get confused when it comes to the discs. Should I get medal diamond disks or should I get the adhesive type and use a wood plate. Anything about the business end of this setup would help alot. Thanks
@mimabasm
@mimabasm 10 лет назад
Thanks for your very helpful videos. You have an intriguing variety of interests. I have built your flat lap setup, but am having trouble figuring out what sanding discs to use. I'm using (Warrior brand) wet/dry silicon carbide paper, but it seems to be wearing out very quickly. Any suggestions?
@lapidarybyandy
@lapidarybyandy 10 лет назад
Thank you for kind words, i used sanding disc at first and had the same problem, i replaced them with diamond discs, i use but i use cheap discs from china THK diamond tools on ebay sells 8' discs for about 12$ I cant tell you how good it feels to know i helped somebody and my design is propagating, lapidary tools are too damn expensive.
@mimabasm
@mimabasm 10 лет назад
lapidarybyandy Thanks. I too broke down and bought Chinese diamond discs from Kent Blades. Good prices and sooo much easier and gratifying. Like Jon, I reversed my motor's rotation and also installed a constant drip pump and drain. I was having problems with water spraying over the low edge of the pan. Epoxying a piece of 4" cove molding around the edge solved this. I cut out a 6" wide by 2" down section in the front to allow for ease of use. If anyone needs to find an arbor adapter for their motor, I bought 1 from Jetstool, $16.50 on Ebay. 5/16 to 1/2 inch. It's well machined with good balance, unlike the 1st one I purchased from another Ebay vendor. Keep up your interesting (and at times frightening) pursuits.
@chipboddiford8607
@chipboddiford8607 10 лет назад
With the diamond discs did you still use the wood backer discs you made? It looks like the diamond discs are only 1mm thick, so I'm worried about them breaking easily. Also, how many different grits of diamond discs do you need to get a nice polished stone? Thanks!
@lapidarybyandy
@lapidarybyandy 10 лет назад
Chip Boddiford These diamond discs are pretty solid, i just use them, no problem, there are some that are "bendy"but either way adding a backer cant hurt. you will need between 6-10 steps depending on stones, the basic series is grinding(80-100) sanding(220-320) prepolish (400-600) polish (1200-3000-8000) and final buff( felt with tin oxide works for most stones) youll want a moist buff like spit shining boots, dont leap too far between grits, for example, 80 grit scratches wont be removed by a 400 grit, also i recommend you dry the stone with clean rag prior to moving to a higher grit, water conceals flaws, and it saves the headache of going back a grit, changing discs etc. anyway i wish you luck any more questions just ask,
@mimabasm
@mimabasm 10 лет назад
Chip Boddiford I use a backer disc with the diamond discs. They aren't too expensive and will give you a bit of security when using diamond discs.
@tylertakes2241
@tylertakes2241 10 лет назад
Is the silocon carbide sanding discs(when glued to the wood disc) and alternative to the lap disc or do they serve different purposes? I just need to clarify cuz i am just starting and could use the help. Great video by the way! Thanks!
@lapidarybyandy
@lapidarybyandy 10 лет назад
you can use either, the carbide discs are cheaper, but the diamond ones work better,
@toddadams7409
@toddadams7409 5 лет назад
Great video. 1 question? What is the make up of the wood lap. what is the thinner layer?
@lapidarybyandy
@lapidarybyandy 5 лет назад
Its silicon carbide sandpaper disc I use spray adhesive to hold it, sometimes I might have a foam pad underneath but not required, all the stuff is available at a hardware store, I used a bandsaw to cut the circle and then a bolt in the center hole chucked into a drill press, then sanded the edge round, it needs to be balanced just like meal discs but of course a fraction of the price, old school laps used wooden discs and tar or pitch to hold garnet dust or sand as the grit, lucky for us we have home depot but it still works , lapidary hasn't really changed much just motors instead of foot pedals or elbow grease. hope this helps I just got the new kingsley north catalog and yikes the price of lapidary tools is nuts, all my stuff is second hand estate sales or improvised stuff like this consider the black princes ruby on the British crown it was polished by hand and is one of the most expensive gems known.
@toddadams7409
@toddadams7409 5 лет назад
Thanks. Thought that was foam under there. That's what was puzzling me. About to build mine this weekend
@goldyelockz
@goldyelockz 10 лет назад
Hey just quick question, following your setup, and just about to buy some diamond lap discs on ebay, just wondering what do i use for a backing disc? planning on using 8 inch discs. thanks so much.
@przybyla420
@przybyla420 9 лет назад
wouldn't the wood disc warp the first time you got it wet?
@100oracle
@100oracle 11 лет назад
Very awesome!
@gabyvasquez2449
@gabyvasquez2449 8 лет назад
Thank you for you video I love rocks that is one thing we have in common I enjoy from star to finish the video I will like to ask you a big favor if you can make one to sale for me . THANK YOU again please let me know your answer
@ducatidragon916
@ducatidragon916 9 лет назад
what grit of diamond disc are you using? Also if you use a silicon carbide disc what rocks would work with this will glass be polished as well or rubies etc?
@dlrcreator6265
@dlrcreator6265 8 лет назад
I was thinking couldn't you just get a round peice of plexi or prospect instead of the wood? It would prevent rot and warping... Just a idea. ( I don't think it would weigh much more then the wood)
@kellyvcraig
@kellyvcraig 7 лет назад
Better yet, consider a Corian type sink cut out. It's thicker and also rot proof. As well, it's cheaper than the acrylic or plexi.
@gothkragor
@gothkragor 3 года назад
my friend, can it be a 1 hp or 0.5 hp motor?
@lapidarybyandy
@lapidarybyandy 3 года назад
sure whatever works for you,
@magic1969v
@magic1969v 10 лет назад
THANK YOU..GREAT.!!!!!!
@maxwilderman3741
@maxwilderman3741 10 лет назад
this is really helpful. glad im not going to spend 500$ on a flat lap!
@lapidarybyandy
@lapidarybyandy 10 лет назад
thanx max, i got a huge deal on my saw and vertical wheels, 200 bucks! i thought there would be cheap used stuff out there but i couldnt find one so after watching a video about indian lapidaries in sweatshops using crude laps like mine i was inspired
@seenitontv2734
@seenitontv2734 7 лет назад
according to the dislikes I see.... there are ten rich people interested in cutting stones
@dirah3040
@dirah3040 8 лет назад
What is the name of the music you were playing?
@athomasimage
@athomasimage 8 лет назад
lapidarybyandy Recommendations on where to buy the wheels you use. Also what grits do you use?
@bogdanflorescu2174
@bogdanflorescu2174 7 лет назад
hey there, you placed your polishing wheel directly on the motor?
@lapidarybyandy
@lapidarybyandy 7 лет назад
Yes, it was the simplest way to do it. a variable speed motor would have been better. but I didn't have one. I use this for , polishing a single flat side on a stone, or to true up the end of a stone pipe or other project that's needs a 90 degree edge. Its probably too fast for faceting, especially if you plan to use metal or pitch wheels you charge yourself ( the grit will likely come off) but with sintered discs its seems ok, I use 8 inch disc so the speed at the outer edge isn't bad . One can use either a variable speed DC motor or with a VARIAC I could lower the speed on this motor ( up to a point its designed) anyway thank you for you interest I wish you the best of luck in your lapidary endeavors.
@bogdanflorescu2174
@bogdanflorescu2174 7 лет назад
I think you can change the power tension and it will drop in RPM
@isatimurerkol6398
@isatimurerkol6398 6 лет назад
the engine will be a lot of horsepower
@OstazFarid
@OstazFarid 9 лет назад
thank you..i want built my one i have 1/4 hp motor...
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