What happened feeling sorry for her for losing her mother ? But instead they killed her and took a little money her mother left her. Evil knows no shame.
0:57 Sarah trusted these guys enough to tell them about her mom's gift - no big mystery there. But WHY did the Mom leave money in a shoe box that Sarah found **by accident**, and why did she not **put the money in the bank**??
@@Defender78 I vaguely remember talk of her father being abusive, and that he would have kept the money himself if he knew about it. Not positive on that tho
@@babasheeny3634 yep, still, even that small circle is ready to fall apart, reason being money. I am from a family of attorneys, and I saw the most heinous tricks people did to their family, brothers, sisters etc., for inheritance money. Money is a necessary evil, we need it yet it can bring destruction. Sure it's nice to have it, but jealousy over it can lead to really nasty behavior. I don't mean killing, bc that is usually what I hear from America, in my country there are loads of other things people do. Number one rule is better not to even mention you have any, depending on who you talk to. I saw my own brother, who was always the black sheep, stoop low enough to steal from my parents, not just some money, it were family possessions and paintings of our ancestors, dating back at least 150 years. My parents did not call the police on him, gave him ultimatum instead to buy back the paintings at least. He did only one and some miscellaneous items no one probably wanted to buy, still my parents couldn't call the cops, bc he is their son. I must say though, I never saw my mom in such an angry state, all the shouting and swearing, but I don't blame her, I was pretty upset too, since he also put me in a very hard position one day, and was a bad brother towards me overall, since I am younger than him. He eventually got caught by the police bc of multiple loans he took out and never bothered to repay (the very hard position he put me in comes to mind). Was in prison for 3 months only, thanks to his brother and party father, that payed for the rest of his sentence. With the inflation coming (we're no where near its peak), you can draw that circle... around you. And with the looming war between Russia and Ukraine, the 90s2000s (best time of my life, so much fun and entertainment) are sooo far in the distance.
@@belladonnahigh9206 Thx for sharing. I wonder if your brother was a spoiled child.........thisi is how an adult can turn out when they’ve always gotten everything they want as a child.
Liam knew her since the first grade! They were friends! It wasn’t even like they had a falling out with each other and had years of animosity towards one another. She probably trusted him implicitly. She probably thought she could count on him to protect her if anyone had tried to harm her. Instead, she had to look into his face and feel the enormous magnitude of his betrayal as she fought for her life. How truly awful. He had no decency at all. That is certainly the definition of depravity. How could her other friend participate? He was depraved too.
Also, my Beloved Latina Mother always told us, “ a friend is that dollar in your pocket”. As a naive teenager, you roll your eyes then grow up and realize her wisdom.
@@zenawarrior7442 that's not how that works. Video games do not make it more likely to act like this. Stuff like this has, unfortunatly, always happend. What has changed is our access to information about it happening being widely available.
Isn't that swell of him. I worry about one of my ex's ....so I'm here. I can't eat..I can't sleep itz a given.....u know do.e guts way to go treating us all like easy breezy prostitutes. Look up the child psychologist who his his porn behind the bathroom in s private room in pur tiny sleepy town. Olive in danvers ma where all the witches were prosecuted .the plumber found disturbing g pictures of sma children glued to pictures of him. Mike nervullo . a keen peachy guy ......a perv. I am a ex preschool teacher .. U have no idea how angry I am
This is a prime example of why you (1) *never ever tell anyone what you have-especially money* …(and 2) *never trust anyone based on time.* You never know what people will do for their own selfish gain.
Disgusting in so many ways. I remember him saying the dog didn't even bark and called it stupid, when the dog knew him and didn't see him as a threat to Sarah. They wanted to steal money her mother left her, those words make me feel so sick. Rip angel, you deserved so much better
Yes he was saying how the dog wss just watching me choke her out. How sickening. I live in Middlesex NJ, I went to h.s with all of them. I'll never forget when she disappeared. We all thought it was a runaway until Liam started talking he did everything for the detectives. This was the most pointless & emotionless crime. R.i.p you were a great friend & Soul 🌹🤍
I feel really bad for her grandmother. She loses her daughter to cancer and then her granddaughter to murder over the money her daughter left for her granddaughter. I'm so glad they were caught. Thank you Anthony!
Two envious, heartless, imbecilic monsters, one of whom would have gone on to kill more women, in increasingly sadistic ways, to accelerate the thrill of murder. I'm glad they were caught before more innocent ladies were hurt. I feel terribly that Sarah spent thirty minutes looking into the eyes of a psychopathic person she thought was her friend. It's horrific. :0(
Absolutely. Also, is there any information indicating Sarah and Liam were more than friends? Or, that *he* may have felt that way towards her, and he got rejected? Just really strange case. I was absolutely sure when I first heard of it happening that it was a sexually motivated murder by a budding serial killer, and that Liam might have had feelings for her that were rejected.
thats why its hard to trust people.. you never know how others think and what they never vocalize or express to u... instead of just cutting her off or letting her know they've grown apart... he seized the opportunity to get something out of her instead and killing her..very strange spiteful and dirty as hell.. i cant rationalize that sort of behavior... some people are just demented
What pieces of human garbage these guys are. I can’t imagine them witnessing their friends mother dying of cancer and then their friend finding the box of money and thinking that they should take it and kill her in the process. Imagine that the guy strangles the girl and it takes that long, and she must have been struggling to live and being shocked that her friend would do this to her? Such a beautiful girl, why would they need money so badly that they could do this to someone they know? Are people that callous? I hope they get destroyed in prison!
You should see the Dateline episode of this story if you haven't already. Liam's charismatic and "helpful" attitude each time he spoke with police was quite believable. He came across as pretty darn smooth. I don't recall him ever showing sadness or true concern for her though. It's a very good thing he got caught rather early bc I wouldn't doubt him going on to take out other people.
@@JustJ-Me It sounds like it was always about murdering for him. With his superficial charm and glib nature, he sounds like a textbook book psychopath.
Do you even have to ask” are people that callous?” How long have you been on Earth…???? Don’t put anything past anybody and yes most people are evil actually all. If you’re a human on earth then you’re evil don’t say you’re good only god is good
@@evantheking6218 That's a bit strong. If everyone was evil, the world would cease to function and we would be extinct. There are evil doers, and we all have the capacity to do evil things, but for the most part, we are neutral and sometimes a tiny bit good and a tiny bit bad.
I can't recall if it was Dateline or a similar show where I first heard about it/ watched it, but it was terrible to see how Liam acted when questioned by the police. It makes it even more horrific.
@@JustJ-Me how did he act? Just curious. So mind-boggling - it's crazy enough when someone murders a stranger, but to strangle a lifelong friend for 30 minutes, and never stopping to reconsider your horrific actions as your friend fights for her life, wow!!!
@@BurroGirl He was just very helpful, acted concerned (though he never showed true concern), was willing to do pretty much anything the police asked, and talked to them multiple times. I don't even think he lawyered-up or anything during all of the times he was brought in or when the cops dropped by to ask him questions. He didn't give the impression of a "guilty person", or at least not in an obvious way to me. If you do watch the Dateline episode, try keeping the perspective as if you didn't already know he was guilty. He pretty much had an answer or suggestion for everything he was asked. One of the few places where he kinda slipped was when he was asking the cops about how the water traveled and where a/her body might show up, if it did. Even in that instance it sounded more out of possible concern of hopefully being able to find her.
Women should never befriend men. I’ve had many of these stories where the guys brutally raped their “friends” and left them naked in a ditch. Why aren’t women smart enough to practice sex selective @bortion on boys at this point?
With friends like them , who needs enemies. That was a totally avoidable murder , they could have just robbed her. Its a shame Anthony , didn't go too the police, when he first heard about it. Thank you Dr Grande. Brilliant analysis and sad topic
Right, they could’ve came over and simply stole it while she wasn’t paying attention. It would’ve still been foul, but at least she would’ve still had her life.
This case hits VERY close to home….I didn’t know her but I had friends that followed her on social media. During the months she was “missing” I saw fliers all over town. Very sad what ended up happening…it continued to be the story of that year in 2017 up until his sentence. Thank you for covering this Dr!
You should read about the Finnish Koskela teen murder. Three 16-yos beat, torture and leave their 16yo "friend" to die alone, two of the perpetrators knew the victim since they were 6
When I first saw this story on Dateline or a similar show it was truly creepy how easily Liam was able to appear charismatic and helpful when speaking to police. It's disturbing how easily he could end the life of his so-called long time friend.
He definitely had a Patrick Bateman American Psycho mindset. Thank you for mentioning the Dateline episode about the case. I'm going to watch it now to get a better picture of this heinous crime.
You would think that she should have been completely safe with those two men, knowing her for so long. How in the world did those men have no feelings for her and thought nothing of killing her. So terribly sad that such evil exist 💔🌹
I always learn from Dr. Grande, he provides invaluable insight on how to perform robberies for example. A true teacher and mentor for all of us ;) On a more serious note, I was once betrayed by two close friends of 7 years. I asked them why ? They said they have no clue. Sometimes, people have depraved hearts.
I lived & worked in NJ a couple of years back & nothing I've viewed or read about since more captures the sense of cheapness in life & casual betrayal I experienced from people I'd been led to trust than this poor woman's story. Not even in "The Sopranos" (har har!)Your reflections consistently illustrate a full spectrum of human behaviors & their consequences (with the occasional laugh track) that serve always to highlight the basic moral shared by all your stories --- be kind to people. No amount of money is worth the alternative.
Thanks for your post. Most people underestimate how much a community's outlook can influence individual behavior. I'm sorry you had the experiences you had.
@@thevisi0naryy, even Newark has good areas. I’m from Spain, but lived in NY and NJ for a few years, and have pretty fond memories of NJ, so I truly don’t get the hate that the state gets!
"Boredom in someone antisocial leads to the pain and suffering of innocent people" is spot on. It's tremendously sad, because these antisocial people had a genuine friend in Sarah their whole lives, yet it wasn't enough to placate them. The worst and cruelest irony? If these friends had reached out to Sarah and said they were struggling and needed help or money - she likely would have just given it to them.
This is such a hurtful case to me. Not only is she a beautiful girl but to have her “friends” think straight to murdering her for money rather than a calculated robbery is just too much
This story has always pissed me off so much. Idk if it’s because they lived nearby so it feels more real but how do you do this to someone you grew up with and are so close to?
Hearing about how friends of people kill them is always terrible. Especially since it seems all they wanted to do was rob her. Regardless of how one looks at it, there was no reason for her to die at the hands of her friends. Great analysis Dr. Grande. Keep up the great work.
Sometimes I’m glad that I didn’t keep friends over the years and I only have one or two people which I can at least trust enough to tell them about my life except for my bf. Oftentimes I thought I’m weird or a bad person if I didn’t keep the friends I made over the years but honestly I didn’t keep any of them because they didn’t seem trustworthy enough - they were just people who just wanted to have a good time and weren’t there for you truly or people who wanted to use you. Im just saying, especially for the young people out there, it’s cool if you don’t have a lot of friends and it’s cool to cut people out of your life.
I’m the same…as I’ve got older all of my friends from my younger days have dropped away for one reason or another and the friends I make now I’ll cut out pretty quickly if I decide it’s toxic or not in my best interest. I have a theory anyway that we are all inherently alone and when we are younger or insecure we seek friendships for transactional reasons I.e. not feeling like a reject, having a crew to hang with or go out with to seek other status/material related items like sex, relationships, meet celebs etc. friendships are about a need/ want and as I’ve aged I don’t feel that need and I also don’t succumb to feelings of unworthiness or that there is something wrong with me because I don’t have friends anymore. I have my cat, my child, my work, my bf and I’m good with that. 😀
So tragic. That poor girl lost her mom and trusted her friends to be a support system. At least she had one person who stuck up for her in the end and helped catch her killer
What I can't believe is that he just did that one day. Someone like this must have been waving red flags all over the place for many years. I suspect that those around him just thought he was a "character," but he was really very ill.
When it's people you've known all your life, you dismiss the red flags against the backdrop of appropriate behavior they display most of the time. Or it's simply not wanting to believe your "longtime friend" is capable of betrayal.
How would you diagnose Liam? A Sociopath? I lived in Asbury Park, NJ during that time. It was all over the news. There are flowers & a picture of Sarah at the top of the bridge where Liam & Preston threw her body away like garbage. I feel so sorry for her & her family
Could you do analysis on any 911 operators reaction/ lack of empathy/ rudeness etc etc. Would you happen to know why they are the way they are or what their protocols are?
Do this: at the end of the day try to recount your interactions with people. How many times were you kind, on how many occasions you showed indifference and have you been rude at all? 911 operators are like you and me - human
Thank you, Dr. Grande, for your concise summary of this case. I’ve heard of this horrific case before but it was interesting to hear your input. I truly cannot imagine the horror she felt at having someone she viewed as a close friend strangle her. To look into his eyes, beg him to stop and him show no compassion or mercy.
Anthony was a real hero in the case and he wasn’t even great friends with Sarah. She was a talented artist and very close to her father after losing her mother. RIP Sarah you’re not forgotten.
I've always thought that, who she was, all Liam had to do was ASK Sarah for financial help. No doubt, she would have helped him out. This is a bitter, awful, evil betrayal.
I suspect suitably knowledgeable people would have noticed quite quickly. But relatively few seem to have any understanding of psychopathy or the behaviours it engenders.
Can you please cover the case of the murder of Brandon Teena from the 90s? It shows homophobia and transphobia & I think it also includes the “gay/trans panic” defense.
I have heard of this case before. It is heartbreaking, and prison time cannot bring that girl back. You take a life by murder, and you should have yours taken away.
Seems simple and logical, but not well thought out. Too many problems with just killing someone who killed someone; too many people have been set up and falsely accused. Not in this case, but too many cases.
@@Doors067 There are absolutely cases of innocent people being convicted. We had a case here a few years back where a schoolgirl was raped and murdered while waiting for her bus. Two guys who lived nearby were basically railroaded by the Sheriff, and spent over a year in jail waiting for trial before a serial killer captured elsewhere confessed to the crime. This case is not in doubt though.
Very sad story. I said it before and I'll say it again. No matter how close someone is to you, human behavior is the most unpredictable behavior there is on this earth 🌎.
Hahaha, took the words right out of my mouth! Seriously, though...Spend 30 mins chatting up a friend in disgusting detail about how you just murdered someone as if you're telling someone how your day went, and then abruptly leaving That Anthony guy's face once Liam left the car must have epitomized the term "BrUhhH!!11".
This story truly hurts my heart and turns my stomach. The darkness and Evil that human beings can have inside them can be so vile, perverted, and wicked I simply can't wrap my head around it. This is proof that there are people who are so soulless and void of morality, compassion, empathy, and remorse that they are no longer a person, but a predator without a conscious. How they live with themselves is beyond me. God, please shine your light in those of us who are losing the battle of letting evil in their hearts and minds🙏😓Amen.
Back in 1973 the 'o'Jays",had a song about the love of money,that perfectly describes this type of behavior. It's called,"For the love of money" "For the love of money People will steal from their mother For the love of money People will rob their own brother" They also had a song called,"The backstabbers"
Dr. Grande, would be interesting to hear your analysis of how a person can maybe predict this behavior.. can you imagine if someone like this is in your circle of friends??
Liam McAtasney stranged Sarah Stern for a half an hour. In all of that time before she died he could have changed his mind and stopped, but he didn't. It was monstrous and brutal on his part to kill supposedly one of his closest friends in such a way. Liam prolonged Sarah's suffering and even stuffed clothing down her throat and covered her nose. It's hard to think of a worse case of betrayal than this case. Not that it would have justified killing Sarah, but Liam didn't even have any mitigating factors going for him like a lot of other killers sometimes do. Liam didn't have known mental or emotional issues or money problems or some other troubling issue going on his life. My point is that Liam McAtasney is perhaps one of, if not the least sympathetic murderer there is.
Evening, Dr. Grande. I want to thank you for all your videos as there are times I observe/learn new things, as I've been studying Psychology, for decades as it's always been a fascinating interest of mine when it comes to the psychology of the mind of the human race. 👍 Have an awesome day! 🌵
Years ago I had a sociopathic psychotherapy client who shared with me details of some criminal behavior. What I found interesting was his failure to understand the risks in involving other persons in his plans. So many criminals are caught because they involve untrustworthy people in their plot or fail to keep their mouth shut before or after the crime. Fortunately in the case of this client the crime was a failed theft from a drug dealer that did not involve any harm to others. Is it our need for social inclusion that distorts an accurate risk assessment? In the case discussed here by Dr. Grande, a carefully planned crime was betrayed by an unnecessary and naive need to involve others in or to share the details with others. Speaking of unnecessary sharing, why did Sarah Stern discuss the shoe box with anyone else?
Can you talk about the murder of Nicole Lovell? I was a student at Virginia Tech at the time and it disturbs me more now that I'm a mom of a pre-teen girl.
Great video! Such a sad story. What a senseless death. I would love to see you cover the death of Morgan Ingram on your channel - mysterious death that was likely a suicide, but I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts.
This case breaks my heart. In the confession to his buddy, I believe the guy who actually went to the cops, the murderer mentions that Sarah’s dog just laid there and watched him kill her, because the dog knew him well and didn’t see him as a threat. Then he complained about how long it took him to actually strangle Sarah to death, because he thought killing her would be fast. It makes me sick. I’ve lost two close friends and I would give anything to have them back, then you have monsters like this in the world who take the innocent people they call “friends” for granted and/or worse. RIP Sarah ❤️ nobody deserves that, especially not someone as kind as she seemed to be.
Very compelling case. The depths of greed are not surprising but the deceit and manner he killed her were so cold blooded. HE TIMED HOW LONG IT TOOK HER TO DIE. Then threw her away like garbage. I wonder if she never saw coldness in her childhood friend and just dismissed it rather than trusting her instincts. Ladies, always trust your instincts.
It’s too bad Anthony didn’t go to the police before the murder of Sara. Murderers telling outside people of their crime is a key component of how May are caught. This is a sad story- so sad that young girl lost her life. Thank you, Dr Grande, for bringing us this compelling story ☀️🌵
I saw this covered on the news. It's so upsetting that I wasn't sure if I could watch this video. Great analysis though. This guy Liam wanted to brag and wanted to come across as a tough guy, especially to his friend who set him up. Dr. Grande was right. He was a 19 year old guy who was working at some restaurant and his life was going nowhere pretty quick. He thought this murder would bring something to his life. Now he gets to have an exciting life of trying to survive in prison.
First they tried to get the confession thrown out since Liam and Anthony were smoking weed , saying Liam was in an altered state when confessing. When that didn't work they said Liam was auditioning.
Dr. Grande, can you take a look at the case of Alina Orlovo and Alyona Savchenko? Sort of an older one but I’m curious on how you’d evaluate them, considering one of them legitimately claimed to be a Psychopath. I will warn you, it is disheartening though.
Dr. Grande, I think your last point in this video is profound. Boredom can be used creatively and productively by a pro social person, but an antisocial person will harm others to get their thrills. SOOOO TRUE! This case is chilling.
This is a somewhat rhetorical question, but who are the people who raise and maybe coddle such individuals ? I now mourn for the precious young woman , betrayed in the worst possible way by "things" she believed were friends.
What an incredible video, Dr. Grande! And what a disturbing and terribly heartbreaking case! Talk about a premeditated crime- planning it for 6 months....💔
I wonder if Liam would have tried to kill Anthony Curry or even Preston Taylor if he thought he could get away with it. I think he would have. Liam was remorseless, heartless, cold, calculating, and he even seemed to be smiling at times as though he thought positively about what he did. Plus, in his confession, Liam talked about how he had patience. It really does seem like Liam could have become a serial killer if he hadn't been so careless. Its hard to pinpoint why Liam would actually go through with such a thing. Maybe Liam McAtasney is just bad egg. As for Preston Taylor, he kind of comes off as an unthinking yes-man. If Liam Mcatasney was the mastermind then Preston Taylor was the mini-mind. Preston was unlucky in a way since he had the misfortune of being influenced by Liam McAtasney to do stupid things. I think that under the influence of better people than Liam McAtasney, Preston could have been normal and not done stupid things.
Either forced or conned. For some reason I think being conned is even more horrendous faith than being under direct threat. Just like the serial killer (Ted Bundy?) who had prepred a _trick_ on how to release yourself from handcuffs. Once the victim couldn't understand how Bundy was able to escape from handcuffs, they sometimes wanted to try it by themselves. Once the victim got bored, they asked bundy to show how he escped. Then Bundy took a key from his backpocket, smirked and started to beat the helpless victim ruthlessly. Similarly being part of a robbery gang and having a live bomb attached to you to make counter offensives ineffective, then findingbout that your associates never intended on sharing the money with you, and further, they just decided to left you to die. Dying is bad, but sometimes I think that would be worse.
Hi Dr Grande. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and passing comments on the foolishness of others. You are so well balanced IMO, and are a daily listen I very much look forward to. As the old adage goes....."if you could have dinner with 10 people (living or dead) who would you choose". YOU would be one of the invitees. Thank you for the inspiring information, the really funny dryer than the sahara desert humour, and the constant desire to tune in. 👋❤
I remember this case so well. Excellent presentation as always Dr Grande! It appears Netflix loves con artists! I just watched 'Inventing Anna' ~ the case of Anna Sorokin which I was very familiar with following articles in Vanity Fair and New York magazine a few years ago. It's rather a fascinating story (a little drawn out, Netflix style) but I thought you & your viewers would enjoy.