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Honda/Acura disabled idle stop start due to a higher rated aftermarket battery. 

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@314computernerd
@314computernerd Год назад
Before I quit Honda a couple of years ago. Pilots were going into idle stop but were unable to turn back on. Honda, at the time, recommended replacing the battery and performing a valve adjust. Do they still recommend doing the valve adjust in situations like this? As long as the engine has manually adjustable valves, of course.
@theoffroadingmechanic
@theoffroadingmechanic Год назад
Honda has come out with a recall for it not restarting back up. It's just a software update and a warranty extension on the starter if after the software update and is still having problem starting up after going into idle stop start. And then doing valve adjustment.
@pierredelecto7069
@pierredelecto7069 Год назад
I think id disable start stop on any vehicle i bought if i could. I hate this "feature"
@chrisfreemesser5707
@chrisfreemesser5707 Год назад
Buy a car with a manual transmission 👍
@theoffroadingmechanic
@theoffroadingmechanic Год назад
I think they have that on new cars now to.
@jack8356
@jack8356 Год назад
Buy a car without a transmission
@MrSamPhoenix
@MrSamPhoenix Год назад
@@jack8356lol
@amrit10
@amrit10 Год назад
There's a software bulletin out that addresses start/stop issues. Had it done our '17. Start stop kicks in less with OEM battery now. Issue was sometimes the car would stop at idle and not restart. Never experienced that though
@theoffroadingmechanic
@theoffroadingmechanic Год назад
We have had complaints about it not starting back up. The recall also extended the warranty on the starter along with the software update.
@jaymopar3543
@jaymopar3543 Месяц назад
It happens to our 2020 MDX. Took it to the axura dealership couple days ago. It says due to the battery thats why it failed the idle stop and needed a new battery. Theyre charging 400+ to replace it. My question is why cant they just recharge the battery if it failed on load? Im just curious why they need to replace the whole new battery and they said u can only replace it with OEM battery not one of those autozone.
@theoffroadingmechanic
@theoffroadingmechanic Месяц назад
For idle stop start to function the state of health of the battery has to be above 70% and that's because when your engine is off it still has to run everything in your vehicle while the engine is off without being charged. Being at 70% doesn't necessarily mean the battery is bad just the computer won't allow it to go into idle stop start because your vehicle is constantly monitoring that battery to be sure that it's able to sustain operation while it isn't being charged and be able to crank the engine back up. While the battery is below 70% state of health it is still technically "good" for normal starting operation. Until 50% thats why they typically last about 2-3 years to 70% or drive it without idle stop. With idle stop start it isn't just a regular load test. You're actually doing a rated capacity test not just a load test as load test are just for starting the vehicle. What you need for idle stop start system is a machine that can do a rated capacity test and what it does is discharges the battery and recharges it back up to see how much capacity it can still hold. And it usually takes over an hr.
@theoffroadingmechanic
@theoffroadingmechanic Месяц назад
I just get the same group size AGM battery from Canadian Tire they have a 5 year warranty. Once it hits around 3 years is when the idle stop start stops working because it hits the 70% state of health. It's free replacement within the 5 years and half the price is what I've suggested for my friends on their Honda/acura. Where Honda /Acura is 1 year free replacement and then it's pro rated.
@jaymopar3543
@jaymopar3543 Месяц назад
@@theoffroadingmechanic Thank you brother for taking your time to write this thorough report. I just hate this idle stop BS. I guess you can't just permanently shut off the idle stop. Eventhough, there's a button to temporarily disable it. I've seen people on RU-vid made a by pass for idle stop. You just need to buy that one product from Amazon or something.
@theoffroadingmechanic
@theoffroadingmechanic Месяц назад
Yea I see those it just reverses the switch so when you turn on your vehicle it reverts it to the off setting rather than the on for the idle stop. But here's a video trying to explain this while this company wanted me to test their battery tester. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JqzocYFDw5o.htmlsi=yq_qAtTBzwvBHxDZ
@frankxu2321
@frankxu2321 Год назад
I guess despite it is “good”, the internal resistance of that battery is too high and computer think this is an aging 650CCA battery and disable the function as precaution. I’m not saying it is wrong to design this protection, but modern car do require more compliance on factory spec. 😢 Hey we have the same plastic ramp! 😊
@EverydayJ1786
@EverydayJ1786 Год назад
I'd rather keep the higher rated battery ... I hate the stop/start systems .. plus it's gotta give extra wear and tear on everything .... It's a stupid ploy to save 0.00001 mpg
@theoffroadingmechanic
@theoffroadingmechanic Год назад
Yea the husband was thinking of leaving it since he doesn't like the start stop and pushes the butten to turn it off every time he starts the car. He knows that it does prematurely wear the starter. But the wife likes the feature so its going to get a battery. Lol
@winch1587
@winch1587 Год назад
Except when she needs to move immediately, but has to wait until the engine starts. Loosing at least 5 seconds, which could be a matter of life and death.
@doctor_who1
@doctor_who1 Год назад
@@theoffroadingmechanic nevermind the starter, i heard leaving the engine with no lubrication when hot, is a problem? something about destroying rod bearing whatever they are.
@MrSamPhoenix
@MrSamPhoenix Год назад
Why would she even care for it?! At best the start/stop function saves probably 0.10 gallons.
@theoffroadingmechanic
@theoffroadingmechanic Год назад
Some people like it cuz in there mind they're saving fuel. In someone else's mind it's a nuisance.
@MrSamPhoenix
@MrSamPhoenix Год назад
@@theoffroadingmechanic I feel you, but I’m betting she’s likes the vibration more than anything lol
@frankmazzuca4325
@frankmazzuca4325 Год назад
I turn that auto stop/start off immediately after starting my Ridgeline.
@joarby
@joarby 5 месяцев назад
After replacing the battery, do I need to input the radio code in order to start the car? Do I need to reset the computer system? Thanks. I’ve tried to start the vehicle after a battery replacement but the brake and the steering wheel are both very stiff and it won’t turn over. The electronic goes wild flashing and lots of short clicking or ticking noise. Anyone familiar with this situation?
@theoffroadingmechanic
@theoffroadingmechanic 5 месяцев назад
The radio code shouldn't have anything to do with the car starting. Are you sure you didn't just put in a bad battery or installed the terminals backwards or if you had tried jump starting it and had jumped it incorrectly.
@joarby
@joarby 5 месяцев назад
@@theoffroadingmechanic these tlx are really a pain when it comes to battery. I tested my 3 yr old Acura battery after charging it fully at 12.06 V and yet it didn’t turn over at all. Just now I got a AGM battery and cranked it up…problem fixed. The new battery tested at 12.42V.
@rustbeltrobclassic2512
@rustbeltrobclassic2512 Год назад
wait? if i put in a battery with less than factory rated amps, i can disable the star(ter) destroyer?
@theoffroadingmechanic
@theoffroadingmechanic Год назад
Maybe I should just change the title to how to disable idle stop start system.
@rustbeltrobclassic2512
@rustbeltrobclassic2512 Год назад
@@theoffroadingmechanic Probably get a shit load of hits, i can't imagine i'm the only person that would love to kill that stupid thing..
@theoffroadingmechanic
@theoffroadingmechanic Год назад
Not a fan of the system either.
@BIG_JV
@BIG_JV Год назад
I would NOT trade a 875 CCA battery for a 650 CCA battery! 86 that Start n Stop altogether!
@godzuki2099
@godzuki2099 Год назад
Why did the battery dieded? A new battery with that 875 rating should be ok right?
@theoffroadingmechanic
@theoffroadingmechanic Год назад
the battery still started the car fine just won't go in to idle stop start. Even though it had a much higher CCA it still had enough CCA to start the car.
@godzuki2099
@godzuki2099 Год назад
@@theoffroadingmechanic so it was just an old/damaged battery without enough capacity left to allow for idle start/stop?
@theoffroadingmechanic
@theoffroadingmechanic Год назад
It didn't have a date on the battery so can't really tell how old the battery is and the car is only a 2015.
@chrisfreemesser5707
@chrisfreemesser5707 Год назад
Seems to me that the newer the car is, the less resilience the electrical systems have. Even using a non-OEM relay or light bulb can cause weird problems
@mikemata623
@mikemata623 Год назад
Shoot even something as not programming a battery on a BMW can cause issues. Had a 2014 X1 had several bulbs out, wasn't a bulb issue, check all wires and were intact. Came to the conclusion I had a "faulty" footwell module. Well put a new one in still none of the bulbs worked. Customer had replaced battery and had not programmed it and that's what caused all the bulbs to be out.
@MrSamPhoenix
@MrSamPhoenix Год назад
Reminds me of how the Germans been found this fit the past 20 years.
@MrSamPhoenix
@MrSamPhoenix Год назад
@@mikemata623these manufacturers are pure stupid sauce. Why would a battery need to be programmed?! They figure out every way to make current vehicles like thin wet paper smh.
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