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Honda CB650R vs Triumph Trident 660 - When two cylinders ain't enough | Comparison | Autocar India

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If you're upgrading to your first multi-cylinder big bike, the new Honda CB650R and Triumph Trident 660 should be on your shortlist. Rishaad Mody and Rishabh Bhaskar talk you through their pros and cons and tell you the model that ticks more boxes.
Camerapersons: Shreyans Chordia, Pradeep Bhondave
Editor: Siddhesh Kadam
0:00 - Introduction
0:55 - Looks
2:21 - Riding position
3:59 - Screens
4:37 - Features
5:38 - Performance and refinement
7:07 - Clutch and gearshifts
7:40 - Throttle response and traction control
9:01 - Ease of riding and heat
9:35 - Handling, grip and tyres
10:48 - Braking
11:02 - Ride comfort and ground clearance
11:54 - Prices and costs
13:10 - Verdict
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@veeraraghavansafety 2 года назад

As pointed out...Honda killed the bike with its pricing. Also, their bigwing showroom guys are busy selling their 350s with not even a demo bike available at my place...

@SuperRider-RS 2 года назад

HAHAHA

@stoneroses9350 2 года назад

I think it's a fair price for a 4 cylinder bike. Here in Europe it's sold at 8k euros

@akankshapanwar4520 2 года назад

And they don't even bother to explain to you about the CB650 even when you go to the showroom! All their focus is onnsmaller segment bikes now.

@Jaslath 2 года назад

@@stoneroses9350 That might be an argument to make if in most places the Z900 wasn't priced cheaper. That immediately causes a person to question why the honda is priced so high compared to it's competitors.

@shaikthegangsta 2 года назад

@@stoneroses9350 mere 6,81 ,000 rupees ....wtf

@Racoon-Man 2 года назад

I love these kinda reviews of Autocar. These are so professional and on point. They don't joke around saying stupid stuffs or just joke around about the disadvantages of a motorcycle. Makes it feel like no motorcycle is bad and every bike has a different buyer.

@RishaadMody1 2 года назад

It's true. Almost no motorcycle is 'bad' these days.

@yamigautam1161 2 года назад

@@RishaadMody1 yep. Just suits to different buyers with different requirements.

@majoralandutchschaefer8642 2 года назад

Gentleman's conversation about a gentle mid range naked sport... Love the way they represented it... A very simple and informative review..

@nishaadjoshi1793 2 года назад

*That's the better deal, this is the better motorcycle* What a beautiful line to sum it up Beautiful, no nonsense review! Keep it up guys

@tendrious4895 2 года назад

It means one is the value for money and the other one is better but on expensive side

@ashaydatar976 2 года назад

I would love to listen to sunday podcast like videos where people just talk about cars/bikes, so you guys can consider that as a weekly video series because it's the casual nature of the conversation that has got me hooked.

@stephenjoshua 2 года назад

Would be interesting

@TheRtHonJimStiffOG 2 года назад

Agree, this is a great idea

@summerslider2487 2 года назад

Agreee

@dr.ramkaranyadav3209 2 года назад

M nmlpppllll .

@sibinbalan9616 2 года назад

Brilliant idea

@sambam007 2 года назад

I agree, the cb650R does feel more substantial and has a nicer seat, revs higher. Honestly though that quick-shifter fitted on the trident is lovely and the lower down torque is so useful in every day riding commuting. I went Triumph

@Blayzn18 2 года назад

Probably one of the best reviews I've watched on the Honda CB 650R. Honest and critical without being biased. Thanks for keeping it real.

@hiteshgujarathi4636 2 года назад

I am going with cb650r. I was waiting for MT07 that torque beast but since yamaha is busy with collage kids to impress them, I would certainly go with honda because I want something which I can keep for long time, which looks good and you don't raise questions about hondas engine, reliability and service cost.

@SuperRider-RS 2 года назад

dnktune for trident will make it even torque than MT07

@TheJackweiser 2 года назад

Since it's difficult to choose, ya know what I'd pick the 2022 Kwacker Z900. More to offer at a lesser price. That 948cc is a peach too.

@kurushunwalla 2 года назад

Z900 is too good and head and shoulders above the other two obviously. But then again we are going over price points. Every lac of rupees or so there is a bigger, better bike to be had. If only there was no such thing as a budget - that would be heaven 😊 Back on earth and reality it’s an ouch situation. Cheers

@TheTwinPost 2 года назад

@@kurushunwalla But the Z900 costs less than one of the bikes in this comparo...the CB650r....lower maintenance cost for the Honda but upfront it's pretty expensive for what it offers.

@vinaym8853 2 года назад

125 bhp 😍

@svr4922 2 года назад

@@kurushunwalla to be really honest with you, if I'm spending 8.5l on road, I don't care if I get a far better bike at 10.5. I got my r3 at 4.5 on road and I didn't even care that the int 650 or d390 were a lakh cheaper

@its--Evander 2 года назад

Suzuki gxs750

@vt0037 2 года назад

One of the best comparisons I've ever watched. Other automotive channels and magazines should look up to this channel to know how to do comparison videos.

@random_cocaine4667 2 года назад

this video displays unbiased journalism & I respect them for it! (coz if it was PD or ZW they would have already made the trident king simply on the basis of price, goodjob both of you guys!

@ManishKumar-gb8rq 2 года назад

Exactly bro.. powerdrift is just promoting products to make money

@ishanbapat1256 2 года назад

Make a BMW310R vs Duke 390 vs Dominar 400!! Love these comparison videos, useful and direct on point 💯

@itsmeee7364 2 года назад

bro dominar is good but quality is not upto ktm n bmw standard , my domi 40hp leaks oil near magnetic coil in just 15000 kms

@arjunachar6812 2 года назад

@@itsmeee7364 but it has the same engine as the duke

@itsmeee7364 2 года назад

@@arjunachar6812 it's have ktm derived engine not exact KTM quality is not same as ktm , Indian made ktm are sold in usa, uk and other countries but dominar don't

@NalinKhurb 2 года назад

@@arjunachar6812 Lower quality components that are also heavier. Hence cheaper

@sidwithstuffs7203 2 года назад

@@arjunachar6812 no its not the same engine

@rbattson7171 Год назад

I saw lots of reviews re: the trident and the cb650r, mostly vids from UK and USA. They mentioned the usable performance of these bikes and suggested the trident had what you needed where it mattered, ie lower down the rev range. I ended up with the trident, no regrets! It shoots up to 80 in no time at all, which is 10 mph above our national speed limit. And 80 mph on a naked bike is enough for me, so the Honda's higher revs are not required. It's also lighter and feels very flickable. But good concise review, it comes down to personal choice, they are both excellent bikes.

@niranjankedambadi 2 года назад

Triumph Trident looks dapper ❤️

@SuperRider-RS 2 года назад

I love my trident

@ibrahimpallikkal5100 2 года назад

@@SuperRider-RS Is that great one

@sanketjoshi7733 2 года назад

Difference in being better bike but costing 2 lakh more can not be overlooked. Difference is not that much. Triumph has nailed it in this segment with this pricing. Difference is just at the extreme levels which commonly we dont experience too many times

@__7000rpm 2 года назад

Hands down the best bike reviewers in India!

@RishaadMody1 2 года назад

😀

@selflearning01 2 года назад

Not only bike , car also.

@abhijitmishra6013 2 года назад

The review is like.. two friends praising their bikes🤭🤭🤭

@drx1918 2 года назад

Firebreathing Inline 4 symphony 🔥🌹is just 😍

@joseroxas5220 2 года назад

I love how these guys based their review on experience. Most reviewers from my country review based on the brochure but have no clue what torque means.

@akkuzachariahjacob2841 2 года назад

Great review ! Love the bikes.. u guys were reviewing it and the way u guys talked with eachother was nice ... Just like enthusiasts ! And moreover without compromising on the review

@vikramkala3394 2 года назад

Simply putting Absolutely smashing video and comparison One of the only few videos where u don’t tend to fast forward it Kudos to you both Keep up the good work

@Basudebmoulik 2 года назад

Guys what a video, can’t afford both at the moment but just loved being in the moment. That’s how people should review motorcycles. Good job team #AutocarIndia

@SD_003 2 года назад

A very crisp , matured no-nonsense comparison. Great job gentlemen 👍 Could you please do this on twin cylinder bikes please? I guess that’s more accessible to mango people compared to these. Wonder when will we get cb300 back?

@animeshgogoi9955 2 года назад

It's a nice review but I can't agree with the fact that the Honda is a better bike. The Triumph is lighter, more refined, has a better display, has better tires. Add the quick-shifter and the gear shifting is on another level (it will still cost much less than the Honda). Yes, the Honda will give you the big bike feel, but that shouldn't be a factor to buy a bike. And if those things are a factor then a first-time big bike buyer would like to be associated with a brand like Triumph rather than a Honda (even though the CB650R might feel slightly more premium than the Trident 660).

@kurushunwalla 2 года назад

Thank you Rishaad and Rishabh for a wonderful review which covered all the pros and cons fairly while still being concise. Wish the Honda was priced on road Mumbai even at 8.25 to 8.5 lacs, it would be good value. Just can’t figure out Honda and their pricing across the range. Then the Z900 is around 9.5 lacs and ST R around the 10 lac mark. Ride safe guys and please continue giving us the great content you do. Cheers

@RishaadMody1 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it, Kurush.

@nishaadjoshi1793 2 года назад

The CB 500 X for example. What a gem of a machine. Does literally anything and everything you ask it to, linear power delivery But then Honda went on and priced it at what it did :/

@RishaadMody1 2 года назад

@@nishaadjoshi1793 Indeed. Wasted opportunity there. Its a great bike.

@lloydz8828 2 года назад

i think its made in japan so it will be pricier

@vivekrao8958 2 года назад

Too good. Loved this video. The format, the topics, the conclusion 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

@oversteer_9339 2 года назад

With this having high sales, no doubt they will add sport mode at some point on the triumph. I do hope so 👍

@rajg1337 2 года назад

I liked the way Rishaad closed by talking about best deal and the best motorcycle, nicely done , this shows that he is showing respect to both the brands.

@geetarthneo 2 года назад

Love the video, two practical motorcyclist talking about two bikes, simply loved it. Great work by Rishaad and Rishabh.

@uthams2 2 года назад

Trident at 2.1 L cheaper (OTR) than the Honda is worth more and a VFM machine PS: Triumph internationally designed it for A2 license holders and hence the throttle response is dull compared to Honda and the Traction control too is very sensitive and intrusive

@pudge9985 2 года назад

Honda is much easier and cheaper to maintain.

@SuperRider-RS 2 года назад

you said it perfectly mate

@Spacenigga69 2 года назад

@@pudge9985 But as he said, not cheap enough so make up for the price difference as it has a 6 month service interval

@abhithkdas8778 2 года назад

For that price around 10L mark.........just go for Street Triple.......triple ftw

@psychosykes3343 2 года назад

exactly or a z900

@yashamin5848 2 года назад

That triple redlining reminds me of the moto 2 bikes 🤤

@GearShifter925 5 месяцев назад

Those " 4 Pipes " below Honda CB engine makes it REALLY STANDS OUT from these two middle weight streets naked motorcycles. This CB 650 Looks exactly almost SAME 😲😲😳 in looks and designs of it's BIG BROTHER or SENIOR bigger cc i,e. Honda CB 1000. Triumph's motorcycle this model I LIKED and LOVE ❤ too...!!!! BUT if I had to choose one among these two Amazing looking Bikes than I would go for that NEO - RETRO one....!!!! 😊 🙏🏻

@umakantkumar7457 2 года назад

In a market like India 1lakh makes up all the difference

@veedo3452 2 года назад

i own a triumph Trident and i did test drive the Honda..!!! if you are lesser than 5.8 and weight around 70-85kgs you wouldn't be able to handle the cbr it just too heavy and in indian traffic i would never buy it considering the heat, everything said Triumph is gem. Out here in canadian conditions i see a lot of new buyers choosing Triumph ,its more stable in higher speeds and the confidence you get while breaking hard is enough of a reason to just blindly buy..!!

@zaamirrazi5367 2 года назад

Great review but I have to say I don’t think showcasing them on grass was the best idea, the trident looks bigger here and the tall grass kind of takes away from the bikes

@RishaadMody1 2 года назад

Point taken, we'll keep it mind for next time!

@shinparmar2 2 года назад

Z900 comes to a on road price of 11 lakh in mumbai. The cb650r comes to 10 lakhs on road and the trident on road is 8.42 lakhs. Think this alone sums it up

@abhas4 2 года назад

I really love Autocar India reviews, literally i have no questions or doubts unanswered. Your reviews are really detailed and professional. Even though there any many auto reviewers out there, still I wait for a review from the channel 👍🏻

@uark2452 2 года назад

trident would look amazing bike chases in a movie

@vamshikrishna7468 2 года назад

The closing dialogue was literally ♥️🙌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

@pave_waywiz8869 2 года назад

Frankly speaking Honda just makes quality and outstanding bikes,even my 2017 Honda CBR 250R still catches attention anywhere I ride it to.

@kollambusvideos 2 года назад

Cool review ! 11:09 lovely blue bus

@_Sanjay_xo 2 года назад

Wtf! Dude

@harisignalseditz1610 2 года назад

Ksrtc fan 💕🙌🏻

@top5youwant 2 года назад

What an absolute peach of the review.... Particularly we are watching Rishad from quite some time and his reviews are always fabulous

@RishaadMody1 2 года назад

Thanks! 😀

@SuperRider-RS 2 года назад

@@RishaadMody1 Good one! I agreed with all of your points.

@RishaadMody1 2 года назад

@@SuperRider-RS Thank you, Always great to hear that from an owner of the bike! I think a good remap will do wonders to that motorcycle.

@vintagerealityvr 2 года назад

Two of the cheaper mods that transform the Honda - Take the Honda, plug or remove the PAIR valve (if you can run a catless exhaust) and then get the Racetorx shift support bearing. Throttle response is even sharper, and the shifting is even more precise.

@Sheltemz 2 года назад

Just got a Trident, lovely bike

@SuperRider-RS 2 года назад

congratulations! wish you long miles!

@kasturrajgor6160 2 года назад

with patrol prices above 105 here in Ahmedabad fuel cost become unjustifiable better to remain with 250/300cc category which is just about highway worthy

@ayushpathania5500 2 года назад

Rich people buying these don’t care

@kasturrajgor6160 2 года назад

@@ayushpathania5500 u r right someone must educate them that fossil fuels are not for waste behind fuel guzzling bikes our very own auto journalists should start the flare

@brendonfernandes2877 2 года назад

@@kasturrajgor6160 I ain't rich but I love riding so even if petrol prices rise to 150 ill still ride every week. I can save money in other ways but won't compromise on something that makes me happy. And when you have earned enough why not do something you love ? I love riding fuel guzzling high capacity bikes and I pay my taxes so ill ride them anyways.

@johntheaccountant5594 5 месяцев назад

I have to say these Indian reviews are some of the best on RU-vid.

@stanleyblazeraznik6047 2 года назад

Very nice review. I miss my 4 cylinder Nighthawk and the T660 just isn’t doing it for me. Most likely selling my T660 this Spring and buying a brand new CBR650R. I was going to wait for the Honda Hawk 11 but it will never come to the US.

@quacktac 2 года назад

In all the foreign markets the Honda seems to be a tough sell, but in the UK it's priced so keenly, it's a proper bargain.

@kartikPanwar07 2 года назад

You end up spending the same amount of money on a CB 650R as you would on a Kawasaki Z900 which is way more powerful and value for money. Then the Trident, good bike...cheaper than CB but is a lakh more expensive that Kawasaki N650 which itself is a great bike but lacks a sweet noise. The struggle is real for a first-big-bike buyer :|

@Spacenigga69 2 года назад

Also with Kawasaki 650s you get only around 65bhp

@brendonfernandes2877 2 года назад

@@Spacenigga69 The difference between 65 bhp and 80 bhp on Indian roads is not a huge difference. But I agree on the engine note. The Kawasaki just doesn't sound exciting.

@monishartwani8418 2 года назад

Hey guys, do you have the review of the recently launched Z650RS in the pipeline? It would be great to compare among the above two and the Z650RS.

@MrYashwant1991 2 года назад

I think Triumph has given us a killer motorcycle at this price point.....what else can we complain

@jakubmikita6069 Месяц назад

Is it possible to do light touring on cb650r?

@gogi1755 2 года назад

I'm definitely going to go for the trident after watching this video

@TheRtHonJimStiffOG 2 года назад

Great vid guys, would love to see you guys do more comparisons, street triple RS Vs MT09 SP perhaps? Either way, great format and great presenters

@RishaadMody1 2 года назад

Thanks James. Sadly Yamaha does not currently believe it worthwhile to sell big bikes in India.

@nishaadjoshi1793 2 года назад

@@RishaadMody1 could we please have a Street Triple vs Duke 790? I know you did bring your 790 towards the end of the Street Triple R review, but we'd LOVE a comprehensive review. It'd be great if you can make it happen!

@saajanjogia 2 года назад

Wow, Autocar used words like horrible, not happening, etc. Good to see some honest journalism in India. We need this!

@tashibhutia8353 2 года назад

Can the 650 tank and seat be fitted on 300cc perfectly. Just curious.

@ewwnique 2 года назад

I had to close 5 ads before I could watch this. RU-vid is getting greedy

@The.JZA. 6 месяцев назад

I got a great deal on a CB650R 2022 that was sitting in a showroom brand new. I will pick it up in just over a week. I cant wait!! Great video. Sub'd.

@brendonfernandes2877 2 года назад

Great review ! But where do you get such lovely roads in Maharashtra ? I miss the beautiful roads of Gujarat and Karnataka. We have such badly built highways in Maharashtra.

@piyushsingh867 2 месяца назад

We need this comparison in 2024

@myselfyuvi 2 года назад

Great video, superb analysis, no shit talks, no cheesy music.... Great job guys loved your content. Just one suggestion for next videos, whenever you guys are making a comment on a bike please refer its name instead of just saying 'this bike' & 'that bike'. Sometimes I had to really pay attention to where your fingers are pointing to know which bike you are talking about. Otherwise good job! 👍

@SuperRider-RS 2 года назад

Finally someone talked about Triumph's creepy gearbox, across Triumph's inventory of motorcycles

@DevanshShahOrigami 2 года назад

CB650R for me 👍

@vfrfandom3904 2 года назад

Beautifully narrated. You can't stress enough the sophistication of the DCT in CB650R. This will add a new dimension to the riding experience

@RAXITH_playz 2 года назад

Well as fuel prices are touching sky, i would happily stand with tvs raider!🥲😖

@AneeshKorrde 2 года назад

😀😀

@pokerisetoken521 2 года назад

I sold my cbr650 coz I can't afford it anymore. Happy with my royal Enfield

@siamvictorzeronimo1761 2 года назад

It is the time we the citizens of India need to protest against the hike of fuel prices and we need a game changer politician who care for unemployment and living BPL.

@ankanmishra8971 2 года назад

True that...and the day isn't far when Splendor n Star city would be coined superbikes, where the parameter would be mileage instead of power n performance.

@paritsharma314 2 года назад

Me too 😂

@angley476 2 года назад

Absolutely Triumph Trident 🔥🔥🔥

@wolffury5019 2 года назад

My Yamaha RX-135, 5-SPEED 's Exhaust Note was Composed by None other than TCHAIKOVSKY!

@MrUrbanhopper 2 года назад

Great review! It definitely helps newbies to the big bike segment, like me, to decide. Fortunately my first love was the CB series of the Honda. But Triumph came in the picture considering the low seat height (I'm 5'4") that's why this is a great video for me. Keep it up!

@brabbit2325 2 года назад

Are motorcycling gods giving me signs to pull the trigger? Sheet man I was looking for 650R vs Trident some days ago and Autocar uploads!!! I wonder why none reviews the 650R here

@theruiterras 2 года назад

This was very helpful guys. Thanks for the comparison!

@paullong1472 2 года назад

In Ireland the Trident is €1,000 more expensive than the Honda CB650R. The Z900 is €2,300 more expensive than the Honda.

@basundharroy89 2 года назад

Rather get a hypermotard 950 paying 2L more( not an issue for folks who purchase 10L worth motorcycle) than that Honda. The Ducati is one depraved machine! A closer comparison for the Trident will be the Ducati scrambler. Not that Honda. The triumph targets a specific market that has aesthetic as a core requirement.

@brendonfernandes2877 2 года назад

These are meant for more beginner riders. Those upgrading from 250-300cc machines. A Hypermotard as the name suggests has scary levels of power and can kill you easily if you make a mistake. These two bikes have very relaxed power delivery which means they are a lot more forgiving regarding mistakes. And its not 2 l more. The old Hypermotard is expected around the 12-13l range. So on road it will be close to 16 lakhs which is about twice the price of the Trident. If you are a skilled rider and are upgrading from a 650cc class bike best to spend another 2l more over the Hypermotard and just get a proper track bike like the ZX10r .

@mehaltandel7608 2 года назад

You Miss one thing cb have 1 more cylinder and after changing exost it sounds is just 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

@SuperRider-RS 2 года назад

changing exhaust in trident also gives soothing sound, both feels kinda same but CBR 1 more cylinder is nicer

@lovetocrack3443 2 года назад

Honda quality is on another level

@jismonta8067 2 года назад

triumph : 16000 km service interval. that's my offer. good deal

@Swapnil5404 2 года назад

There is difference of 1.75 lac ex showroom obviously trident is value for money

@rakesh928 2 года назад

Isn't the z900 available at the same price range? I think that would be a better bike all round

@kaidojaanus2368 2 года назад

Z900 look good only on the picture..... Honda looks much better.

@cruze86 2 года назад

Switchgear and mirrors look premium on Trident than that of honda because in hornet we get the same quality switchgear which we get in cb650r.

@rickyofficial9369 2 года назад

My dream bike superbike But mind class 😭😭😭😭 Love you odisha kalahandi

@maskedrider1995 6 месяцев назад

Personally I like triumph trident 🔥 in trems of build quality, power, style, comfort, display, exhaust, price, handling, features and performance.

@yourfriendlyneighborhoodguy 2 года назад

Honda is fooling indian consumers in name of Japanese engineer. 😑

@mani9389 2 года назад

Absolutely great video comparison with zero non-sense !!

@pritamghosh4643 2 года назад

Man I was waiting for this comparo since the inception of trident! I guess next up should be the CB vs the 765 R?

@Spacenigga69 2 года назад

765R would smoke the CB

@ancientwarrior2374 4 месяца назад

I think Honda is still worth it . The styling it offers , the acceleration (ofc you will not always initiate it from 0 every time and once you have reached 40-50 Honda has much more superior performance) , Exhaust , it's build quality and looks , detailing , reliability (Especially we all know service offered by triumph) , Running cost , etc... It will make it up , and if budget isn't concern one will definitely go with Honda .

@yinyangthang 2 года назад

Excellent, insightful review. Thank you!

@manthenvashishth3769 2 года назад

The Honda is the most underrated bike too.

@heron2019 2 года назад

When is honda CB125R CB150R and CB250R is coming 🙂

@nishantsawant1313 2 года назад

Honda has increased the price tag that's where i get disappointed because in 650cc this was the only bike where people can buy affordly but now not at all honda should decrease the price tag

@hispanosaurusrex 2 года назад

Inflation is coming it'll only get higher

@aromals840 2 года назад

@@hispanosaurusrex Happy to know atleast some people know about inflation and all... As for us it will only get higher and I even doubt after some years would there even be any product under 10 rs.

@Navyguy 2 года назад

*thanks for this comparo video. I wanted to buy one for my betterhalf. Thanks again...* ❤

@diptimansaha6570 2 года назад

Thank you for bringing this after my comment

@SadanandaUTube Год назад

Nice reviews. Great and gentlemen's comparison. Really I love HONDA Brand

@ThatBaDassRider 2 года назад

Would love to see a comparo between cb650r and the z900

@makeinstall4051 2 года назад

Well Well Well in the opening scenes both of them are riding these monsters in what called paradise of roads when I assume them riding in my locality or most part of the India I feel that My enfield would work well on the bumpy roads than both trident and cb650R.