Honda Civic Type R vs. Porsche 718 Cayman GTS - Nürburgring Nordschleife 24.10.2021 

Thank you very much 😊🙏 was a nice lap and challenging to stay behind the Porsche, in the corners the Civic is a beast 🚀😄

Manejo tranquilo? Por dos veces casi se van a la mierda por querer seguir al porsche, los dos andaban con el pantalón manchado

doubt a cayman has worse corner capability's than a fwd car, I have a base 718 with mods and can tell you I had a lotus also and it's on that lvl, it's all about the driver .

Yes, FK8 appears faster in sweepers due to wider track (& 718S suspension is more softer/more road biased & has a narrower track

Thank you 😊👍 Civic is really fantastic 😃

Powered by vtec. Great Honda civic type r!!

For its price. Type R is a steal.

Until very recently, the stock Civic Type R was faster than almost all BMWs ever made around the Ring. 🙀

@@NordschleifeTypeR And are 500% more comfiable and durable than a shitty 718

Thank you 😊 👍

lol he driven on it at least 20 times before...yea I say he knew the track lol

The Porsche driver missed almost all his apexes. This is a driver issue not a car issue. Put a race driver in both cars and the times would speak for themselves. The Porsche is a better car.

Enough fawning praise in this comment section; the GTS was significantly further from its limits than the CTR.

@@wowsdrawkcab the civic type r has held the record there in their class for awhile. Porsche should always beat Honda according to the gatekeepers but where I live none of the Porsche drivers ever beat me in autocross and those guys can drive. Maybe Porsche isnt as superior as you think.

Thank you Warren 😊👍

@@jackfrost99 😅

Was thinking the same thing. Porker would have been two up at most. But he didn’t like having a mirror full of Type R the whole time. Superb driving. Not your first rodeo obviously 👍🏻

@@alexday5892 Thank you Alex 😊 Yes I’ve done already quite some laps at the Nurburgring 😁 best track in the world 👌

The Germans are getting their ass handed to them in so many ways. Many much less expensive cars are beating some of Germany’s “finest” around their own ring. Even a Kia EV6 GT SUV can beat most any German vehicle in objective tests including many German vehicles that are 2X and 3X the price. There’s a long list of less expensive and better engineered vehicles that shame the Germans from other countries like the Z06 C8 Corvette, Tesla Plaid, and so many more. The Germans have lost their way.

@D Lombana Thank you 😊 Yes that’s definitely great to have such diversity on the Nürburgring, it is almost always the case. Sometimes it’s also too much when the differences are too big and there is traffic 😅 p.s. nice pic on your profile 👍

Thank you Simon! 😊 Thanks an amazing feedback 👍😃

Thank you 😊👍 This is true, the Civic is fantastic in the corners 😃👌

@@NordschleifeTypeR I think I read on another forum that you were running 18x.95 +35mm - is this still the case? What did you do to your suspension? Thanks!

@@DC-zq3jf Yes, 265/35 R18 Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 on 18 Inch Titan7 wheels 😁

@@NordschleifeTypeR haha coy on the suspension question i see you ;-)

@@DC-zq3jf ou yes apologies, the suspension are stock, no change there 😅

Thank you 😊👍 The CTR is a brilliant car for the track, a lot of fun 👌🚀

It’s a big achievement by Honda but it’s no surprise they make amazing engines and solid cars

I have driven several of the last generation Mitsu Evo's, and quite a few of the Type R's. The Type R is more Evo than the Evo ever was, especially in the handling. It is amazing what Honda has done with that FWD car, for it to handle so dam well. Even getting into the Civic, the deep seat bolsters are a reminder of the Recaro's in the Evo. Another great handling car, like being on a rail is the current gen NSX, another Honda, that the Type R can go toe to toe with in the handling department. Have driven ton's of Audi's as well, and the Quattro is fantastic, but it does not have a dam thing on Acura's SH-AWD, of which, I have seat time in every model with that setup, and they are all superb. Honda/Acura needs better brakes, as they tend to fade quite a bit. I hope the new Type R handles even better. If it does, nothing else in that category can touch it. The driver of the Cayman should have been able to run away, but, it is a testament to the great handling and driving of the Type R, especially in the corners, that kept that from occurring. I think he may have been able to pass him a few times, but got blocked.

this was the car I wanted to get in high school. Unfortunatly ive been in so many fwd economy cars that im itching for a drift capable car like an m240i out of college. Riden in one though they have great grip!

Enough fawning praise in this comment section; the GTS was significantly further from its limits than the CTR.

@dmorin74 It’s definitely a looooot of fun 😀👍🤣

Thank you bro 😊👍☺️

He is fast only on slow corners. High speed and medium speed corners need improve. Also dramatic work with steering wheel not help be fast. Not a Pro but good fun.

@@tommyflastr7843 only difference this guy and a pro is equipment.

Thank you 😊👍 That’s nice that you enjoy the video and maybe one day you will fly to Germany and take a few laps 🚀😃 Living the dream 😅

I would be very happy if had a chance to drive at nordschleife Hello from Russia, St. Petersburg

@@SecondtoN0NE Maybe one day it will come true 😃☺️ greetings to 🇷🇺

Thank you Gonzalez 😊👍 The Type R is an absolutely amazing car and a lot of fun 👌😁 Greetings to 🇲🇽

Get a real dream car

Thank you Tito 😊👍

Dankeschön 😊😃

Thanks bro 😊👍 It’s definitely a lot of fun with the Type R on the track, especially on the Nurburgring 🚀 I will keep posting these videos probably not that many this year but surely a few 😁👋

Thank you very much John 😊👍

Thank you for the amazing feedback 😊👍☺️

Thank you 😊👍 But the breaks suffer a lot 😅😅

It’s FWD. That’s what you’re supposed to to to maintain grip in corners. It’s easy

@@JacesOwnWorld Basically yes, but in some curves the back is slightly moving 🤣😁👋

Thank you sir 😊👍👋

Thank you 😊 the gear box in the Civic is just amazing 👍

Thank you 😊👍

@Matty Wollaston Thank you 😊it was much fun chasing that Porsche 🤣 👍 for Honda 😃

Vtec

@@xanderestrada5584 👍😀

Thank you 😊👍 It was definitely a nice lap taking up time in the corners 😁

NO, bullying the Porsche DRIVER, NOT the car.

You’re right, this shows in real how fantastic the car is 🚀😊👍 Thank you 😊

Thank you for that 😊👍

Thank you John 😊👍

That’s a fantastic choice Maxim 👏👍😃 Have fun and enjoy the FK8, all the best to Seattle 😊 👋

Thank you 😊👍 a coffee in the morning is much more relaxed than this 😅🤣 Maybe one day you’ll visit Europe and have a ride on the Ring 😄

Super gefahren Tim! Geile Runde 👍😄

@@NordschleifeTypeR kann ich nur zurück geben! Ist immer wieder geil wenn man Leute auf der Strecke trifft die eine ähnliche Pace fahren. Macht riesig Spaß. Allzeit gute Fahrt Jungs💪

@Tim Hassink absolut solche Runden sind genial und eher selten Schade, dass im Anschluss gesperrt war, wünsche euch auch weiterhin sichere Fahrt und viel Spass 😄😊 bis zum nächsten mal 👍👋

@@NordschleifeTypeR nürburgring is closed?

@@carvroom69024 No it’s open 😁

@Lew F Thank you 😊👍😃

Thank you Markus 😊👍

Thank you 😊👍

Thank you 😊👍

Thank you Seb 😊👍 this is a great functionality of the GoPro camera

Thank you 😊, breaking a bit later but then the break pads are quickly down 🤣😅

Enough fawning praise in this comment section; the GTS was significantly further from its limits than the CTR.

@@michaelanderson7715 exactly what I came to say. The GTS wasn’t breaking a sweat in the turns, being careful, and easily pulling ahead on straights. The CTR was near the limits on everything. It was pretty obvious the guy wasn’t pushing the GTS hard at all.

@@andrewskaterrr 👍

@@andrewskaterrr what a clueless comment, you clearly didn’t watch the video close enough. The Porsche got well out of shape on a few occasion. You sound like a brand snob. Have a look at 3.51, the GTS is getting sideways under braking. I’m not saying the CTR is quicker, but the driver was far smoother and taking more efficient lines.

Thank you 😊👍

@NAUFAL SAN Thank you 😊 that’s a interesting observation with the subscribers 😀👍

Thank you Andrey 😊👍

Wow, that’s a statement 😊👍 Thank you!

Thank you Faiq 😊👍

Thank you 😊👍 It’s more fun with manual cars 👌😃

Thank you 😊👍 It’s definitely a lot of fun and real driving is even better than gran turismo 😂😆👌

Thank you 😊👍 It’s a GoPro Hero8 and it’s moving alone, it’s a functionality of the camera, didn’t find out how to stop it 🤷‍♂️😂

Thank you 😊👍 There are a couple of rules like only passing on the left, etc. (you find them on the official Nurburgring homepage) but also some etiquette like twinkle on right to show the car behind to pass or in general moving to the right if you have quicker cars in the back 😀 You will see the flow of the car in front of you when to pass or not, it’s rarely an issue, in case of doubt just wait a few curves to pass 💨 Enjoy the Nordschleife, it’s the best track in the world and a lot of fun 😆👍👋

@stone island this was definitely a lot of fun, but the Cayman also had a nice pace 😅😃😅

Well imagine if you had more power and better suspension , you’ll kill that Porsche

Interesting take, but the Honda was losing grip at every turn, while the Porsche passed him with seeming ease & looked to take every tight turn with minimal effort.

@@krasnaludek298 ^^^this. Porsche driver was taking it easy

Thanks 😄 you are right, always take care 😅 it was definetly an old Beetle 🤣

The cayman is for college girls

@@Dranreb865 👍🤣😂🤣

@@Dranreb865 that'd mean a Civic was for high school girls then.

Thank you Eliot 😊👍

Thank you 😊👍

Thank you 😊👍

Thank you 😊👍 I’m driving on semi slicks Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 265/35 R18, the grip with it is fantastic 😁👌

@@NordschleifeTypeR that’s supercar rubber

@@NordschleifeTypeR damn thats a lot of tires

Yes, definitely 👍 I actually didn’t know the Porsche driver but it was a really fun lap 😄😃

Thank you 🤣👍

Great observation, you are absolutely right 👍😀 and the passengers comments are hilarious 😆

The 718 only won on the straights, though. Got a FK8 myself and it's a absolute beast for corners

@@Malazag Yes in the corners it’s just amazing 👌😃

@@Malazag my GOD, it is so true, honda fanbuuuoys are the worst, right after the bmw ones..or it is a tie, idk, but all of you speak/write like such twats, it is incredible.

@@eugenux And your point is? As if I'd care if some Internet Tough Guy like you is annoyed or not 😂 why even look this video or comment here, if you don't like Honda

You are absolutely right 👍😅😄 Thank you 😊

Especially if you have an fk8 lol

@@AB-bu9go The perfect car 👌🚀

@@NordschleifeTypeR absolutely looooove mine 😍

Thank you 😊👍 No mods on the engine, only other wheels and tires (semi slicks) 👌

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Thank you 😊 in the corners the Honda is just incredibly fast and making a lot of fun 👍 Greetings to the US 🇺🇸👋

We americans only know hamburgers per hour

@@chinchy111 Hamburgers per minute 😂🤣😂🤣

Thank you 😊 Yes, driving light weight wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 semis

Thank you 😊👍 great to hear that you also drive an FK8, I‘m driving light weight wheels (titan 7) 9.5x18 with Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 semi slicks 265/35 ZR18, engine/cooling is stock no mods (works well like this), brake pipes made of steel with other fluid, that’s it and apart of less power with warm temperatures everything works well, there is quite a difference if it’s cold or warm outside probably another cooler would help

You're better in the corners than the Porsche. For me, that means you're better.

@@lorcanroche2987 The Porsche have to "open the road" ,it's harder. By the way the cayman suspension more a bit more due to central engine setup. I think the driver in front show great balls either, he know where to place his car when slower traffic force him in awkard line.

@@lorcanroche2987 thank you 😊👍

@@TakumiFujiwara80 I mean the cayman driver was also driving extremely well and knowing the track, by the way it was a really fast lap considering some traffic 😃👍

Thank you Miljenko 😊👍 The CTR is really amazing on the track, a lot of fun and also reliable 😃 Nice selection tough 👍 All the best to you 👋

Thank you very much 😊👍

Thank you Chris 😊👍

@Speceentity Yes definitely, and tourist drives are just for fun and no competition 😊😀

Thank you Scott 😊👍

Thank you ☺️👍 The Type R is absolutely amazing for the track 🚀

Thank you 😊👍 The Civic makes a lot of fun and is fast enough 😁😅

Thank you 😊👍 You should definitely try your Civic on the Nurburgring, it’s a lot of fun 😁🤣

@@NordschleifeTypeR It looks like it. But I'm pretty sure we have something similar to it here in the States.

Thank you 😊👍 It was definitely a good but on the edge lap 😅

Thank you 😊 👍 all the best to 🇲🇽

Well it’s a Porsche 🤣😅 let’s put some 50-100 more horsepower on the Civic and it would 🚀🚀🚀

Thank you Milos 😊😅 The car is really amazing and a lot of fun👌 Take care 🙋‍♂️

Thank you 😊 I drive light weight wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 semi slicks 265/35 R18

Hallo Markus, vielen Dank 😊👍 da hast du absolut Recht 😆

Übung macht den Meister 😄

Zum einen ist der Fahrer sehr gut schöne Linie und ruhig zum andere ist das Fahrzeug halt Weltklasse.

Ja da hast du absolut Recht, das Fahrzeug ist wirklich Weltklasse und macht riesen Spass 😃👍

Yes 🚀😁👍

Merci beaucoup 😊👍

👌😁

Well, this is true 🤣😂😁👍

@@NordschleifeTypeR 🤣 Go Honda! 🇯🇵. Now can we can get a Type R Honda tank to destroy Nazi Russians in Ukraine 🇺🇦? 😝

​@@billyrock8305 you are an idiot 🤡 boy 😂

This is true John, the car is really easy to drive and I had also novice driving my car on the track and being quite fast from the beginning 😁👌 But you can also drive it on the edge and this is a lot of fun 😁

Thank you 😊👍 Yes the CTR is really a fantastic car 😃👌 So far not many mod, driving light weight wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 semi slicks tires 265/35 R18, steel flex brake lines 👋

Have you upgraded the pads? I personally did upgrade to hawk dtc-60 last summer and cooked my calipers at a track 🥵 Last question what's your thought on swift springs ? Thanks buddy and keep going trough traffic like a rocket 🚀

😁 dancing with it 👍 Thank you Rob 😊

You are right, the Civic is absolutely brilliant in the curves, you can really break into the curves very late and the car remains stable 😃👌 A lot of fun 😄🚀

Thank you 😊 I‘ve actually met the Porsche driver on that lap and did not know him before 😅 Really love the Honda, greetings to 🇯🇵 and let me know should you be around one day 😀👋

Thank you very much 😊👍 It‘s a lot of fun with the Civic 😁

Thank you 😊👍 in the corners the Civic is an amazing car 😁

Thank you Poppa 😊 The Civic has been historically a great car but this one is amazing for the track and reliable as well 😁👌

@@NordschleifeTypeRI owned 1994 Civic Si Hatchback and I put almost 400k on that thing and drove the hell out of it. I then moved over to Mazda after , now owning a 100 Anniversary Mazda 3 AWD Turbo. Definitely enjoy the car with all the luxury features but after seeing this new Honda Civic Type R. Looks pretty damn sweet and looks a blast to drive. Tough to beat Honda’s racing pedigree along with their reliability even after pushing it to the limit. Getting up in the morning, you’ve got to look forward to tearing out of your driveway.

I guess the standard oils as I do the service at a Honda garage 😃

Thank you very much 😊👍 The CTR is a fantastic car for the track and a lot of fun 😁👌

Nice easy lap for the Cayman. He can do another 100 laps on those tires and brakes. The Honda seems to be maxed out. Recommend European Delivery, if you have the chance. Pick up car at Factory and then drive the Ring.

@@dafrasier1 yes in the Honda driving like this I can do only 35-40 laps with the tires and 40-50 with the break pads 🥹

@@NordschleifeTypeR wow. yes that is very hard driving. New car every year.

Si esta es realmente la mejor ruta del mundo 😁👌 Una pena que hubo un accidente al final, nos enojamos nosotros mismos (también se puede escuchar en el video) 😩😶‍🌫️

Thank you 😊👍

Thank you for that 😊👍

The interior is really great 👍

The next Gen is even shorter

Civic 2022 dash?? For me is very ugly and old fashioned 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻

True 😁👍

I’m sure this was also fun with the Prelude and it was a great car for those years 😃👌 Maybe try now this track with another car? 😅

@@NordschleifeTypeR unfortunately I drive a Sportage now like every other dad lol. Although, I do have the SX version so it might be a bit fun!

@@EricMalette For sure it would also be a lot of fun, but then the breaks might fume 😂🤣 I had this once with a friend

Thank you Yang 😊✊

Thanks 😊

Thank you 😊👍 Yes you are right, it could have been faster and I was quite on the limit 😁

Maybe one day 😅😃

Do you mean outside temperature? It was 5 degrees Celsius or 45 degrees Fahrenheit 😀

si es verdad es mas facil 😅😄