Honda Civic Type R vs Renault Megane RS vs Hyundai i30N - hot hatch Track Battle 

Yes, I have a red one and I get nothing but compliments

Yes I have the sonic grey one same here nothing but loads of interest and compliments,

Same here! :)

you lucky dawgs ;)

Had my sonic grey fk8 gt 2 weeks now, love it. Had 5 new Honda's back to back over the last 10 years and this is easily my fav

Steve and Chris Harris. Jesus, that's heaven.

One of the best car reviewers out there!

Are you in the US? I've got one in pmm.

@@Joe_Friday USA

@@djs18 Alabama here

me too, I love it so much!

Mine too..............

Fast through corners

Because he has 45 ps more than the Hyundai

i just hate the childish looking rear :/

I do agree fully to that comment, like the Clio it's less focused and less hardcore, I'm a real Renault fan (have very mint R19 16v Ph2 with 2.0 Turbo conversion) but at this moment when buying a new one, the Megane RS would not be on top of my list. Another disappointment is that you cannot buy a three door version anymore.

Let's wait for the trophy r

@@LorenzoClara97 drove one for a day (Cup chassis and manual version). It is a huge step back on the Megane III RS. It's not faster and the 4 wheel steering works in the same way a DCT gearbox does, it detaches the driver from the car. In the old Megane YOU did the oversteer, now some mechanical concoction is doing it for you which isn't half as much fun as the real thing. Out of the three I never considered buying the Megane. I did consider the Type R and if you are buying your hot hatch for track days, it's probably the best choice. I bought the i30 N because it's simply more consumer friendly in the way you can set it up fully to your own personal liking, it has a way better infotainment system and it's more mechanical and engaging pretty much anywhere outside the track. The Trophy R version isn't going to change a lot in that respect. It will be a lot more expensive than a Type R and entirely track focused so even less usable on regular roads than a Focus RS.

@@Iron883Man I totally agree with you. The megane rs3 is still unbeaten for the driver experience. Followed by the i30 but for my liking still too little raw and full of tech (but this is also a must for some people)

@TheLooke I also own a 275 Trophy and watching these videos makes me want to put my head in my hands. Renaultsport really seem to have lost their way. I would love to see how the 275T would compare in this test. If it wasn't faster than the new Megane I'd be amazed. And I guarantee it's more fun. It might even run the Civic close in terms of fun and involvement, even if it probably can't quite match it's lap time.

Same for the i30N i had the Pirellis that come from factory for 1 season then swapped over to PS4S and it's night and day :D

Same here man, it's one of my dream cars

They just had less competition

that's about 2% faster. Which is quite something. Also the Honda has better components as Mechanical LSD, a special front axle (similar to ford's Revo Knuckle), No rear beam axle etc.

the i 30 n does not have a rear beam.

@@user-jt6nw6wm5q The i30N has a mechanical LSD aswell but it's electronically controlled...

@@user-jt6nw6wm5q , so which has a rear beam axle!?

Really that much? In the UK it only £4000 more

Honda are definitely missing a trick by not selling a Civic Type S version.

Azar so how is your experience so far with your i30N ?

How about the Nissan 370Z Nismo? That is focused and RWD, and relatively affordable -- it's only a little more expensive than a Civic Type R or Golf R (apart from perhaps in the EU, where it suffers tariffs from being imported from outside of Europe). Once a car has more power, then it needs upgraded driveshafts, brakes, suspension arms etc and (unfortunately) it is inevitably going to weigh 1500kg+ like the 370Z or a BMW M240i.

Making the Type R RWD will add weight, complexity and cost. It would negate the advantages it has over its rivals.

Because it would be too costly. We used to have the schassis from Nissan but it wasn’t cost effective for Nissan to produce.

Because then it wouldn’t be affordable

Honda needs to make a new S2000.

yea, that might give you 0.2s quicker

Honda was king before Renault Sport for long time

@@matanmaster I think the Renault 5 Turbo came out long before the first Civic with VTEC actually. I guess you could call the '84 Civic with the ZC 1600cc DOHC to be the first sporty Civic. Of course, both Renault and Honda had other sport models long before these hatchbacks.

Remember also that the Hyundai weighs more than the Type-R so that's a disadvantage for it as well. I think over a longer track the Type-R would have a significant advantage over the Hyundai. I've driven both as well, the exhaust note on the Hyundai is definitely more satisfying, Type-R was a real let down there.

That isn't sold in the UK unfortunately, you might be able ask an American channel though

how can you tell the difference between trophy and cup? please i need to know when looking at cart listings

Midlife crisis car for 40+ year olds imo

enrico fumi ikr,if it design better I ain't shame to one

Dimensions are bigger but it weighs less.

in the garage getting the head gasket changed

Well Renault actually want to sell cars (instead of wall posters and scale models), so they copied the VW Golf GTI recipe for a bit sporty but conservative throughout. Can you blame them? :) (I have a model of a Clio V6! :) )

Absolutely

Robin Marples it’s not lol . This track is longer