Honda Element rear lower arm and knuckle bushing removal and replacement.

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So yeah, like the crawl says. I did this because of that one bushing that you can only get OEM by buying the entire rear trailing arm. I have a fleet of Elements and the price of that arm just keeps going up and up. Siberian Bushing makes these polyurethane bushings and I think we're on the 7th or 8th replacement. I thought it would be cool to show the process just in case you want to tackle this job. Especially the press. I like the press. Cheers.
P.S. I am open to critique, constructive criticism, fuck it, roast me. I want to do anything I can do to help anyone keep their Element road worthy. Just gotta get over being on camera and figure out the best format to get the point across in the most efficient way possible.
Update 12/8/22:
Time passed. Miles driven. So far we are getting between 20k to 40k miles out of these Siberian Bushings. Not good. The first one that goes is the one that connects the control arm to the subframe. The poly is separating from the metal core and the arm can move from stop to stop freely. Soon after, the upper control arm bushings followed by the knuckle. Ahh well... the package did say "Tested in Siberia". Didn't say passed. The one that seems to hold up is the one that was responsible for all of this so that's good. The rest, we're going back to OEM. So yeah, for informational purposes, the video still stands. Just don't use Siberian Bushings.

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@CHIBA280CRV Год назад

Thanks for the informative video , it is a lot of help. I will be tackling the wife’s Element and your video is indispensable. It is a good to know that those Siberian bushings are junk , and I will go with OEM bushings. Thanks again and don’t criticize yourself for making the video and being on it. I appreciate you making this video. You guys did a great job 👏👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@pierreslockshop Год назад

Thanks, I appreciate it.

@rishi-m 5 месяцев назад

Which ones did you go with and how are they turning out? Asking since they mention at the beginning of the video that Honda doesn't sell them separately, I have Mevotech ones in my cart on Rockauto.. I'm thinking of renting a ball joint press to perform this job, you think that'll do the job? Thanks for reading and potentially responding!

@edwardaustin4369 2 года назад

Man. This is the exact video I needed. Dudes actually doing it with regular tools and shit. Thank you.

@pierreslockshop 2 года назад

You're welcome.

@caspergibson699 Год назад

Kept waiting for them to catch one of those spacer pieces in the face!

@Benrose72490 4 месяца назад

Hello what year is this for? I am trying to fi d out what bushing is the passenger side inner bushing on the knuckle. It's not the alignment bushing with the alignment bolt.

@pierreslockshop 4 месяца назад

Mine is an '05. The only bushing called lower inner is the one at the very back of the lower arm (52364-SCV-A02). The one that bolts to the subframe. The ones in the knuckle are called rear upper (52395-S5A-004) and rear lower outer. Of the two rear lower outer, A (52365-S5A-802) is the fixed one, not A (52365-S6M-004) is the toe in alignment one.

@322434 2 года назад

Awesome video guys! I'm about to change all bushings myself over the next couple of days on my 02 CR-V which has the exact same trailing arms. Bought a small 10-ton press and already did the two rear bushings yesterday in my driveway (the ones with the 10-star bolts in them) and that was easy enough.

@scaban 2 года назад

Excelent job guys. I need to replace one of the knuckle bushings the outer bottom one. Wish me luck on that, I will be using a balljoint U-Press to remove it.

@pierreslockshop 2 года назад

Thanks. Front or rear knuckle? I've destroyed one of those u-presses trying to do the knuckle bushings.

@scaban 2 года назад

@@pierreslockshop The left rear one. I'm just praying that goes well. I live in FL and the car doesnt have any rust at all. I bought an OEM bushing from honda. I will keep you post it on how it goes. Thanks for replying!

@pierreslockshop 2 года назад

If it's the rear lower rear (the one we did with the vice) then you shouldn't have a problem. One thing we've noticed with these poly bushings is that one doesn't like to be installed the same orientation as stock. It will squeeze itself out all on its own. We put them in backwards and haven't had any issues.

@whiptips4374 Год назад

Great vid: can you throw up a list of bushings with their brand and part numbers I’ll need to do the whole job? I know it’s a pain - just thought I’d ask!

@pierreslockshop Год назад

No problem. www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/v-2005-honda-element--lx--2-4l-l4-gas/chassis--rear-lower-arm Numbers 13, 14, 15, and 22. Do your Element a favor and get an adjustable upper control arm instead of number 20. It'll come with that bushing and you can get rid of the negative camber that wears out the inside of the rear tires. This is for my 2005. Enter your own VIN if yours is not 03-06. Numbers 13 and 14 are different for 07-up. I don't know about the SC. durable.parts/product/7-06-2798/ This is the only one I would recommend from Siberian Bushings. Simply due to the cost of numbers 16 and 17 from Honda.

@whiptips4374 Год назад

@@pierreslockshop thx!!!

@0.018 2 года назад

Marvelous video. Very informative and many thanks. Where did you purchase the new bushings from, particularly the trailing arm to chassis bushing with the 'ears.' No-one seems to carry them. Many thanks!

@pierreslockshop 2 года назад

Thanks. They're Siberian Bushing bushings from Durable Parts in NJ. Powerflexusa also makes them but they are almost five time the price. I don't know enough about poly bushings to know if they're that much better.

@cdotson0027 6 месяцев назад

This job is definitely a difficult one to do at home.

@cdotson0027 6 месяцев назад

The one you pressed it on the vice in the knuckle mine is definitely crooked. You said you put on the car and it often straightens out? Is it the weight of the car will just shift it into place? I cant get it to straighten out at all.

@pierreslockshop 6 месяцев назад

Torquing the bolts pulled it into place. Keep in mind, this was our experience with lubed up Siberian bushings. I have no idea if the same will happen with other brand bushings. And if you haven't read my follow up or other comments, I recommend against Siberian.

@cdotson0027 6 месяцев назад

@pierreslockshop it didn't come with any grease I guess I should put some on there?

@pierreslockshop 6 месяцев назад

Just to verify, you are talking about the forward most three piece bushing? What brand did you buy?

@cdotson0027 6 месяцев назад

@pierreslockshop the bushing that the toe bolt goes into. It's the one you pressed into the lower rear knuckle on the bench. I got siberian one same as you I think.

@cdotson0027 6 месяцев назад

@pierreslockshop at first I tried to put it in with a ball joint press. I pressed it back out and am gonna use the vice technique you showed.

@kevek1231 Год назад

I have a pilot with the same problem the only way to get the bushing is from the OEM and you have to buy the entire knuckle which is $800 What aftermarket bushing can I use?

@pierreslockshop Год назад

On a Pilot, I have no idea. But I don't recommend Siberian any more. They're not holding up.

@iadr71 2 года назад

I did this swap over the weekend, and ran into a big issue with the ID of the bushings not working on my '07 , the bushings were 14.1mm the bolts are 14.3mm I had to drill the sleeves which was less than fun. especially after installing and deinstalling them a couple times. and DO NOT forget to put the little donuts on the "eared" bushing because getting the EARS out is a SERIOUS PITA. and I would have not wanted to do this with out a press. it didn't make it EASY but it made it bearable. and having a second set of hands would have been super helpful....unfortunately I did not

@pierreslockshop 2 года назад

You are correct. I dealt with the same thing on my 07 and 08's and forgot to mention it. Sorry about that. Specifically it's the rear lower arms rear bushing. The bolt on the 03-06 is a 12x81.5 and the 07-up is 14x87. I let Durable Parts know but they have not updated the info on that bushing (7-06-1252). The first one we drilled out, we let too much heat build up and melted the poly. Spun it completely apart. Still not as bad as the last one we did that was a bit rusty. Lower bolt for the rear shock, head broke off. That was fun.

@bertrandlussier8150 2 года назад

Samething for my 09, i just did one side yet. I plan to drill the bushing for the other Side. Someone know if Siberian bushing are aware of this problem?

@delacruzjavi Год назад

so just wondering, based on the update on 12.8. 2022. looks like you went with OEM after the Siberian ones failed. but what about the one you can't get from Honda? were you able to find a suitable replacement. great video by the way. looks like I have to purchase a press

@pierreslockshop Год назад

That's actually the only one that's holding up. I think it's because the arm doesn't have any lateral movement that would allow it to separate. We will continue using Siberian for just the lower forward. Powerflex makes one too but it's way more expensive and I don't know enough about poly bushings to justify the price. That press was worth every penny.

@brassmule 8 месяцев назад

@@pierreslockshop Just to clarify, the one you still use is the Siberian 7-06-2798, Polyurethane bushing rear suspension, low trailing arm, front? The one with the two metal pieces to insert in after, or is it another bushing?

@pierreslockshop 8 месяцев назад

Correct. We replaced all but the 7-06-2798 with OEM. I have not purchased or replaced any of them since. The 7-06-2798 are also beginning to fail and I'll have to do something about it soon. I have about 22k miles with them on my personal E and the rear arm is not being held solidly in place. The ass end of the car wags like a dog when I go over a bump or pothole with just one side.

@brassmule 8 месяцев назад

@@pierreslockshop Okay, thank you! The search for a possible replacement bushing option for my Element lead me to this video and I *really* appreciate that you've kept up with the content by providing updates. Unfortunately it seems like Siberian is the only option to replace that one bushing, but it doesn't last - and also unfortunately, it's the bushing that is starting to wear out the most for my 2011 Element. Thanks for the info and good luck keeping your Es on the road!

@pierreslockshop 8 месяцев назад

Powerflex makes one but I can not speak to it's quality. It's pricey. It is supposedly the same as the 00-05 Civic and the 02-06 CR-V. Maybe someone else makes it but just doesn't list it as for the Element also.

@chipster747 2 года назад

I still can’t determine why that lip needs to be ground off that one bushing. Can’t it just come out the other way?

@pierreslockshop 2 года назад

Because of the catch cup. The knuckle must be supported and the lip on the bushing prevents that.

@Trailblazerz710 2 года назад

Thank you so much for showing this. What has been the long term review from the customer? I’m looking into those bushings also

@pierreslockshop 2 года назад

You're welcome. Ummm... no customer reviews yet cause I'm my only customer. Basically, I'm replacing the rear bushings on my own fleet. Haven't had any major failures yet but haven't put enough miles on them to have any long term data.

@redred5389 2 года назад

Yea definetly looking to see how their doing now?

@shadyislandchronicles4237 Год назад

ONly one question - how many billable hours?

@pierreslockshop Год назад

I don't have access to Alldata and every estimator I tried online just gives dollar estimates for replacing the whole arm. If a mechanic sees this, maybe they'll be kind enough to look it up and answer.