Had an opportunity to drive this one today. Key points. It feels effortless. All touch points feel premium enough. No it’s not an SI killer. Let me touch base on that last one. This will smoke an SI, and if you get the jump on a type R, it’s gonna take them a surprisingly higher effort than imagined to gap it. This is thanks to the fact that it’s an electric car first, with an engine generator that sometimes doubles as a regular engine. So the civic hybrid doesn’t just very electric in its operation and its power delivery, it is electric. However, the steeeirng is the slightest bit light, the breaking while plentiful isn’t the most sporty in its engagement. And the grip from the front tires while good isn’t Si on summer tires good. This is awesome tho. It’ll take all of three things to make this an si killer on your own so take that for what it is.
@@trialbygaming4588 I love the car, just seems a little under equipped at the price compared to competitors and even cars a size up in base/mid-trim models that don’t cost much more.
@@DaveDDD Not really a competitor in class, but price wise, Camry LE and LE with convenience offer arguably more desirable equipment for nearly identical price and are better values. Then if you’re looking at the touring civic hybrid, you can look at the Camry SE for less and similar story. Then there’s the venerable Corolla hybrid. Then for within 1000, you can get a fully loaded Elantra hybrid which is a pretty nice car too. Also, I’ve seen Kia Niros on autotrader and other sites for under 30k, around 28-29k, and that’s a nice car for that price.
I know accords, civics, corollas and camry are so boring and that makes you look broke in front of society (depending on the people you choose to keep around you) but I find it so satisfying to have a good cheaper car that runs on minimum costs, great fuel consumption, comfortable, spacious and never lives at the mechanics. Shout out to John Cena for dailying a 2020 civil type R (FK8). Even he was complaining about Lamborghini cost of ownership... So yes I am boring and broke but if that car raises my family and I can rely on it. Then I'm all for it! Great work Ben! You my hero!
It makes you look Rich in my country, actually. Average salary 1.1k euro and this Civic cost 42k euro. So If u can afford it ur actually doing fking good.
Camry 2025 is 3500 to 3700 pounds vs. Civic at 3200 pounds. It's going to be felt in the vehicle dynamics.. also this interior and the way the forward glass is laid out is much better to the Camry.
@@aa-hd3ih Camry LE with the Convenience package gives you more features than the Civic sport and even offers stuff you can't get on any Civic whatsoever, while being less than $1,000 more than the base Sport hybrid. Honda either should offer the hybrid on the LX models and lower the gas model price, or lower this Civic hybrid price since it's way close to Camry hybrid price for my liking, and Corolla hybrid is cheaper.
But the Camry can’t move its seats down to fit bigger items or to even sleep in the back to take naps on long vacation drives it’s also slower and doesn’t take turns as well
@@goantonio it’s the touring trim I was talking about the regular sport hybrid. The other one doesn’t have leather seats and and different size screens and other things.
Great car. I always love Civics, but I'd still take a Camry hybrid over this any day of the week. The Camry hybrid is nearly identical in price and, even on lower trims, offers items you can't get on any Civic such as power lumbar support, rear air vents, a full digital gauge cluster, among other items while still being the king of reliability.
@@meshail59 I just wish Honda could drop the Accord interior layout with that digital gauge and larger infotainment into all Honda models. It’s also sort of insulting that you can’t get lumbar support on any civic, when almost every car in existence in 2024 that’s 25k+ msrp but the half new/half ancient frontier offers it. And the civic is supposed to be the sporty/premium compact.
Honda's hybrid reliability is outstanding. Steering on the Camry feels numb compared to the Civic. On the design department, this Civic looks way sexier and sportier than the Camry. Camry is too big as well.
@@basstheangelo Sure civic might be sportier, but there is a phrase called “bang for your buck” that many people live by. And there is no doubt the Camry LE is a better bang for your buck when you get a bigger, more substantial car that gets better fuel economy and even provides similar/more equipment compared to the civic sport hybrid for the same price almost.
Looks great, wish they came out with an Integra hybrid, but I doubt it’s gonna happen. In the UK, they have had the civic hybrid for quite some time, and it comes with a panoramic sunroof which really opens up the cabin and makes it feel more premium and airy… The CRV also gets panoramic sunroof available on all models which the USA has never had….. In fact, the CRV has been available with a panoramic sunroof the mid 2000 in the UK…. so strange that we don’t get that here.
Hybrids are a really good concept at date and time. Its something the way the dream team duo of Malone and Stockton are in the car dealership business there in Utah.
I've noticed manufacturers only releasing the top trims right away so everyone sees the coolest version but they can say it starts at a lower price. It's a little sleezy.
Ive been eyeballing that trim. My local dealer has it under 32k out the door. I just wish it had rear ac vents. (Yea i know they have under seat ducts).
The Honda is a better car, but if you want a hybrid Civic it only comes in the upper trims. The LX is not a hybrid unlike the Toyota Corolla LE which can come as a hybrid, you can also add AWD, and you can add a package which will add alloy wheels, push button start, and sunroof, and it will still cost thousands less than the Civic.
Consensus seems to be that the Honda hybrid system is much more refined than the one in the Camry. Also, Hybrid Camry: 232HP, 3774lbs; Hybrid Sport Civic: 200HP, 3208lbs.
@@johnborges5938 that’s what I hear. Only thing is the Honda hybrid system isn’t as readily available across the lineup, is less reliable thought it likely isn’t a slouch there, and is less efficient.
@@KNRS927 Who says it is less reliable? While both are pretty much bulletproof, the Hondas get as good, or better, reliability ratings. And as for efficiency, compare it to a car of similar size. So the Camry, not the Corolla or Prius.
@@jeffjo8732 idk about it being as good, thought Honda is no slouch reliability wise and should hold up. Its just Toyota hybrid system is considered the gold standard for reliability and rated the best there by almost any outlet you look at. As for efficiency, civic hybrid gets 50/47. I think Corolla gets 50/47 and then the Camry gets 53/50, Prius gets 57/56.
@@KNRS927 The Toyota system is "considered the gold standard for reliability" by those who accept that it is "considered the gold standard for reliability" and so don't feel they need to check if others are better. Going back to get ratings based on more data: KBB: 2018 Accord Hybrid 4.5/5; 2018 Camry Hybrid 4.1/5 2020 CR-V Hybrid 4.5/5; 2024 RAV4 Hybrid 3.8/5 JD Power changed their rating system in 2020: 2020 Accord Hybrid 82/100; 2020 Camry Hybrid 82/100 2020 CR-V Hybrid 79/100; 2024 RAV4 Hybrid 74/100. RepairPal (doesn't distinguish hybrids or years) Accord 4.5/5, Camry 4/5 CR-V 4.5/5, RAV4 4/5 Consumer Reports rated the Accord and Camry equal on a five-point scale until they, for unknown reasons, stopped reporting on older Accords when the changed systems. 2020 CR-V 69/100, 2020 RAV4 59/100 I'm willing to look at any other ratings you think are "almost any outlet you look at," but these are well-known ones. For mileage: The Civic Hybrid SPORT (not LX), a _midsize_ car at 99+15=114 ft^3, is rated at 49 (50/47) mpg. The Camry Hybrid, a midsize car at 100+15=114 ft^3, is rated at: LE: 50 (51/49) mpg; SE/XLE 46 (46/46) mpg; 44 (44/43) The Corolla Hybrid, a _compact_ car at 89+13=102 ft^3, is rated at 50 (53/46) mpg.
@@jeffjo8732 End of the day for most people who have 28-30k and they’re within 500-800 of each other, I’m getting the car that’s classified as a mid-size/full-size sedan over the compact sedan. I’m getting the one that gives me wireless Apple car okay and wireless Android auto, rear air vents, power lumbar support, and auto dimming reavers mirror. I’m also going for the one that rides better, is quieter, and has been know for being a comfortable and quiet car. Now if the civic hybrid started around 25k like the Corolla hybrid that starts around 25k, we would be having a different conversation because the civic hybrid stomps the Corolla hybrid. But at 28-29k where it butts into the territory of a car that’s a class size up as defined anywhere you look and this isn’t a top trim in comparing, it’s hard for me to pick a compact civic sport over a mid-size/full-size sedan.
These are to expensive. I wanted to buy one of these but couldn’t pass up buying a 25 Camry SE for 4,500 off msrp coming out to $28,500. Bigger car, less money, more features, rear ac vents and comes with a spare tire! All while getting almost the same mpg with more horsepower!
Yeah but it’s a Camry. Civics are wayyyy more enjoyable to drive. We have both a Camry and civic and I always go for my civic when picking up keys🤷🏻♂️
@@bruceyi7738yeah he mentioned his big discount elsewhere in this comment section but has no answers when it comes to which dealer. I think it’s bullsheet 💁🏻
What's with the hair, lol, I just drove the '25 Civic Hybrid Sedan and I really liked it. Plenty of power, very comfortable seats (Sport touring) room, and quiet. At 49 mpg combined, it could be a no brainer for most folks. I want the hatchback, so I'll have to wait a bit longer to get that one.
Not entirely price; it is _benefit_ for price. The Toyota AWD system is close to worthless. It is a small electric motor on the back wheels that can add a little acceleration, but practically no traction. If rear wheels are _needed_ for traction, that motor simply can't provide enough to make it helpful. It is ego-candy only. Honda will only use a mechanical AWD system, like in the CRV, that can distribute all of its power between any combination of the wheels. They think (as many experts do) that it is not needed in a sedan, and it doesn't fit as easily.
And Toyota's isn't a very useful AWD system at that. It is really a front- plus 1/3 back-wheel drive, since it is provided by a small motor ob the back wheels. So when (your point there is valid) it is _needed,_ it cannot do the job. When it is not needed but is _useful,_ it taxes mpg without providing any real benefit. And it is limited by battery capacity. Honda only uses mechanical AWD, which can give full power where and when it is needed. That's why it is in the CR-V, where it fits better, and not the sedans. But the mechanical system will put more of a dent in mpg.
Cheap and cost cutting while being most expensive in the segment. The starting price for the civic sport hybrid is about the same as a near top-trim Corolla hybrid, and even overlaps with the bigger Camry SE and LE price while the Camry has stuff you can’t find on any civic.
where’s the green bars on the hybrid battery new car and I don’t trust the hybrid battery already there was zero bars on the battery on good stick with Toyota hybrids
It’s better on pricing. It has a better cargo space in hatch form. Which is what most people that buy these care about. Mpgs are comparable. Civic competes with the Prius sorry
@@ibrahimbashir6634 less features because it’s cheaper. Mpg isn’t better on the civic but it’s very comparable. Like I said cargo space is better on civic hatch hybrid. You said Prius is better in every metric. That’s wrong
Getting in a Prius like trying to crawl into a C8 Corvette. Horrible ergonomics as a daily driver in my opinion. I’d take the Civic all day over the Prius 😁👋
I typically hate hybrids for a passion due to lack of aftermarket modifications and complexity of the hybrid system. But man, Honda killed it with this one.
@@Lemon-kq9bh It’s also priced much closer to a Camry than a Corolla. If you have $30-33K to spend on a Sport Hybrid or Sport Touring Hybrid, you have enough money to buy a Camry LE or SE hybrid. If you only have enough money to buy a Corolla Hybrid, you can’t afford this Civic.
AWD is not 4WD. It's a gimmick that results in heavier cars with less nimble steering and a higher cost of long-term ownership and reduced fuel economy. I applaud Honda for not trapping customers into that nonsense. FWD cars have VSA and traction control which mitigates any need for AWD. If you think you need AWD, what you actually need are snow tires. And if you live in the mountains, you're laughing at this post because you drive a 4WD car.
@@BenHardyCars It competes with whatever buyers cross shop it against. It’s a hybrid sedan in the same price range as a Camry hybrid. Corolla is priced much lower than this.
