I’m a massive Kawasaki fan but in this instance I’m bagging the the all new blade only because this particular ZX10RR is knocking on a little now i.e no TFT screen no electronic suspension plus its a 4 year old design aesthetically now so sorry team green as much as i love you I’m taking the Honda!! Might be a different story come 2021 when the all new singing and dancing ZX10R comes to the party though 💚
I can't find anything on a new zx for 2021. I put my deposit down for the new cbr back in December. Taking delivery once it comes to US. Around 30k out the door msrp $28,500
I think the looks of the Kawi are still good (heck, RSV4 is ten years old now design-wise), but it really needs to up the ante in the electronics department, including the dash.
Kawasaki was going to release the revised 2020 zx10rr late last year. Then Honda released the all new fireblade. Kawasaki went back to the drawing board (my speculation). Hope to hear something soon this year.
i think there are some rumors that they will revised the zx10 line up Q4 or 2020, like what they did to the ninja 650, new ninja comes with full tft dash and some riding app stuffs, same with the new ZH2, got lots of electronic stuff, i think all zx line up from the 250 to 10R will be updated, we can all just wait and see
It's my understanding that Honda sportbikes have been super refined, reliable and good quality for a long time, with that solid ruggedness that Honda is known for, but that they've teased us by just never getting over that hump between fast and sinister... always a little conservative with the horsepower, a little more "comfortable" instead of race-obsessed, but super reliable. Good bikes, "can never go wrong with em" but just never psycho enough like the R1, Panigale and Ninja. Great. Now it's time to fuckin kill people. Sexy lines, top-end tech and retarded power. And super reliable. Introducing the Honda Fireblade.
Knowing Honda and how conservative they are, the engine is heavily restricted which one can tell from the dyno graph. The EU and Japanese bikes put 202-203 WHP. When a ECU flash becomes available soon and you upgrade to a more free flowing exhaust it will push 220+ WHP. Not to mention the stupid long gearing the bike has. Fix that and nothing beats this Fireblade.
You are crazy the zx10r puts that honda to shame especially when you add the price you better look at world super bike yea honda does really good way behind the kawasaki
I've had a zx10r for quite some time now and i can honestly say that the vast majority of riders will not be able to utilize all the power a liter bike has to offer. That being said, pick the one you like most as it will be a very impressive ride.
@@jonnozx10r32 I bought a 2020 and squeezed out what my experience of a bike w/o electronic say is reasonable after 3 decades on a GSX-R. I have not the feeling that I am missing much or have much headroom, but it is likely that the electronic will give some more advantage. Anyway still reving the bike in all gears to the limit, except first gear, also out of corners with rear wheel steering. After 3000km I feel absolutly fine on the bike and have not the feeling of beeing over powered.
I picked up a modded 2016 ZX10R. Remapped to 195rwhp, blipper/QS, uprated discs and pads, tall screen, racing sprockets, Gillies adjustable pegs, decatted arrow exhaust, 8500 miles. £7000. So that's 1/3rd of the price of the others on test. I love people buying these bikes on PCP, I pick up such bargains as a result :)
Everybody talking about the dash...jeez, you want to enjoy the ride or keep staring at the dash? That blade is fire tho no question but fancy display and all the electronics crap don't always matter.
I also live mine, hopefully next week middle pipe arrive, remove exhaust box and dyno, swap front sprocket, don't need 170kph in 1st gear, never go on racetrack. Zx10rr rule. Awesome frightening power. Are you in England ? Understand different power than in NZ.
@@supergrease21 yeah I had the guys fit a decat pipe ready for when I collected here, looks so much better. I am in England. Not had here on the racetrack yet but I plan to at some point. 👍🏻
The UK 's crap weather, and both bikes have thier development roots in MOTO GP and WSB.Fit a Piug screen on the Honda, wind problem solved, thiers nothing wrong with the HONDA finnaly it beats the rest with power, it's always had the best cornering ability
These are high end bleeding edge track focused sport bikes. The Honda wins in every respect, period. If you want a street bike that can be used for the occasional track day don't buy either one, unless of course you are in it for the cool factor and have to have the best bike. In which case, again the Fireblade wins.
I own the 2019 zx I would like to go toe to toe with the Honda on a track to see what it has ..... but its all going to come down to the riders the liter bikes are so close in performance that only a pro would be able to see its weaknesses
yeah a pro wouldnt even blink riding stock liter bikes, they can always past the limits of the bike. hitting stock liter bike's limit would just be a walk in the park for them hahaha
Just buy the Kawa if you are above 1.80 cm. I did sit on Honda on EICMA and with my 188 cm it felt like a toy. Sure nice looking bike but not for everyone.
As I'm not a racer, I'd choose the kawi hands down. I don't need winglets, never come close to either bikes potential. The kawi is more practical, and cheaper. Blade looks nicer, has better kit, but looks like it would be more of a pain in the ass. So in the end, I'll take a bandit.
I am so jealous of you uk guys in pricing , my country indonesia charged these bike over , for example the all new blade SP model priced around 80k Usd dollar , the tax i here insane 😭 , so 20k is very cheap...
@@enigma5192 I put my deposit down on one in early january, here in Australia i'll be paying $49999 for the bike, with on road costs it comes to $52500
Yeah that was b4. What about the triple r? Its a comeback bike. Prev fireblades are a bit weak compare to its other segment. But this one. Nah dont think so. Its a payback 😂
Kawa top ends mental and price wise? Kawa. Ano, old design and retro dash and no “fancy” ohlins but who cares, will all that money saved in my pocket i could buy all the carbon in the world and make my zx10r even more beautiful 💪
There is an aftermarket Plug in play TFT dash available for the ZX-10 for those that "must have a TFT, it costs about a thousand US dollars or less. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-icH5WgPn1Y4.html
I've got a 2018 ZX-10R. I get people complain about the plain Jane LCD display on it as I wanted something more, too. I replaced it with the plug-in AiM MXK10 for this reason. Sure, the TFT display is pretty, but what I've found is that when I'm flogging the bike, the only thing I care about on the dash is knowing when I'm approaching the rev limit without having to take my eyes off the road. Believe it or not, the factory dash is really good for this. The MXK10 is also, but only because of the row of bright LEDs included specifically for this purpose. My point here is that the color dash is something pretty to look at while you're showing off your bike to your friends, but where the rubber meets the road, it's just not that important. I also have a Ducati 1299 Panigale S, which has the fancy Ohlins electronic suspension and pretty color TFT dash, but when it comes time to choose which one to ride, 95% of the time it's the Kawasaki.
@Adam Stratford, the design requirements for the ZX-10RR specified only to make the bike faster around a track so they didn't spend any money on dash etc, BUT AiM make a fantastic plug-and-play dash ** MXK10 ** which includes a GPS dongle for lap times and the ability to add sensors for stroke and brake pressure and I am seeing deals on the RR. I have a 2017 and 2019 ZX-10RR and I have ordered new CBR so I like them all.... :-)
Took this bike for a test drive a while ago. After 6,000 rpm when that butterfly valve opens. The sound is immense. Great handling bike. Not as much power down low as the 2019 bike but it’s incredible over 7,000 rpm. Great fun and very focused. Closest ride to a motogp for the road imo.
Forgetting for a moment that Hondas have been banned in my house since 2015, the Big Green looks a better bet offering more for your quid and enough for most of us mere mortals
Kings have proved historically that they exist often to be dethroned)) race track-honda, But Kawasaki widened the range without losing the thrills, yeah!!!
Already got my order in for the Honda. My 6th CBR1000RR. Kawasaki is nice but can you give a better color scheme? The green is not pleasing at all! Both are great bikes. Shoot, nowadays you can pick any liter bike and get a great machine PERIOD!
Honda hands down. Not to knock Kawasaki especially the zx10. But as long as its not a yamaha, buy it ride it and love it. Lol. Cant wait to hear what these yzf r6 and r1 riders have to say about this. But I used to be a mechanic for yamaha. One thing they were good for.. Job security .. Lol... Serious tho... Respect for every rider on 2 wheels. We're family when it all comes down to it. Stay safe
ive read somewhere that riding the new blade feels like a 600cc sportsbike, that being gutless at lower revs and you absolutely have to rev it sky high before you feel the power rush. which in my opinion, not an ideal condition if you want to ride on the streets. The older blade with 1 less "R" would probably be better for that. This triple R is designed to win WSBK, so i think Honda just went all bonkers on this one.
I am proud owner of 2020 winter edition zx10rr, this amazing machine too much power for me, 170 1st ,200 2nd, but am learning, will not use on track, am too old now, young man's game, but one of 5 in NZ, mine only zx10rr on road, 2000km now on clock, this very serious power, over 200hp everyday, an eye opener. Love the black, different.
Hmmm. Now do a back to back, with those two, and an R1, and a GSXR, and V4 Ducati, and a new gen S1000RR. And perhaps an Aprilia V4 as well. The one I'm most interested in, is the new generation Boomer.... I'm also interested in how they work in everyday life, like the commute, or down the pub... I know they're made for track-days and Sunday morning blasts, but ... that's fantasy-land, that's not where we live...
Let's face it, the 2008 Blade is beyond insane for the road and, if you could ride it to its potential, it'd have you battering the fast group at any trackday.
Kawi is a great bike... compared to the superbikes of 2009 😂 That godawful dash was outdated even before it came out. The bar has become so high now that we consider a ZX10R "not really up there". Hope they update it asap though, they've been killin' it on the track for decades!
Nice video! IDK about engines 500cc and up, but about smaller engines I've experienced that Kawasaki is the best! Gas saver, reliable, cheap maintenance!
I like the ZX10R look but if Kawasaki adds Cruise Crontrol, heated grips, keyless start like the Honda and the TFT display Honda has I'll go with it. Gonna wait for the next ZX10R to see what they come up with before I upgrade.
You can't compare the two. There wouldn't have been a ZX10RR or an R1 or any of these modern day sports bikes without the legendary Honda Fireblade. Honda have always been the king and they have re-claimed their throne.
Not sure how you can rate the Showa suspension as "lower spec". I have raced with that Showa BFF fork and have found it to be on par with Ohlins FKR 100 insert and better than Ohlins NIX 30.
It is rear wheel power for sure BUT..... You have to rev it to over 14000 rooms to get it. That is the catch. These bikes both need sprocket changes to get most of that power to the rear wheel at reasonable rpms. They are geared for the track only!!!
Even tough Im a Kawa boi. I must say it starts to look outdated. Hondas LED lights, aerodynamics and tech would probably make me choose Honda if I was buying a new bike today.
I like them both and I am not brand loyal I like all bike but prefer Japanese because more bang for the buck and less expensive to maintain. I a tough call but I would probably go for the Kawasaki.
The tech that's introduced more and more into bikes is not appealing to me. So obviously the zx10r would be my choice. I'd rather be able to pick and choose what electronic aid I'd install into a bike than to have to deal with the headaches of having to disable or remove what came on the bike.
I cant wait to see a tuned Honda CBR 1000rr keeping up and beating the S1000rrs, its their time now, hope theyre able to finish it, other wise its just another Honda with a new body.
Slowly but surely the competitors for the best sport bike of 2020 are presenting themselves. What manufacturer will take home the prize 👀🤔. My money is on the Italian stallions more so Aprilia in fact.
And? Makes me laugh these fad riders who like to look at their bike instead of riding it. Ergos and performance. I look where I'm going, not at the dash cooing over it's TFT'ness :D
Knowing Honda and how conservative they are, the engine is heavily restricted which one can tell from the dyno graph. The EU and Japanese bikes put 202-203 WHP. When a ECU flash becomes available soon and you upgrade to a more free flowing exhaust it will push 220+ WHP. Not to mention the stupid long gearing the bike has. Fix that and nothing beats this Fireblade.
I L💙VE the "Blade"!! , but I would opt to buy the Ninja. I'm a 6'2" tall guy, and I believe the man when he speaks about the Blades' comfort & ergo's. It has to be a good "fit", for an absolute amazing riding experience. IMO, an ill-fitting motorcycle will wear you down, and you might even think about letting it "go", after a year or two. Comfort matters 💚.
