As a lifelong Honda owner(I currently own a 2020 CR-V), I would admit that Toyota does have a slight edge in overall reliability. But the reason why I keep choosing Honda is because they are more fun to drive.
@@codincoman9019 Really nor bad, but honestly small for the money. And outdated technologically, though yes - reliable. Nice vehicles, but Honda is bigger and better. But Mazda is on right track - great cars.
@@mykolashatkovskyi576 Mazda has the amazing Skyactiv G and X technology, very reliable and with a low TCO= Total Cost of Ownership (bringing them right near Toyota/Lexus). Small might be something like my Miata ND2 RF G-184, but not a Mazda CX-90 😉 I used to have a Honda Civic Sport 2 decades ago, but Honda has gone down in reliability, but up in price/TCO and except the Type R (unfortunately FWD) there is nothing amazing like the old S2000...
Biggest thing is how the company takes care of you if there is a major issue. Not only fix the issue but give you a loaner car and explain the issue without legal speak.
Excellent video for reliability comparison of Honda and Toyota but I would also like to see Mazda and Subaru in the mix. I realize you touched on Mazda but would be interested in a quad comparison of all 4 vehicles. Also, I would like to see the resale values of all four after 5 and 10 years of ownership.
OMG YESSSS SO HAPPY YOU BOUGHT TOYOTA WILL ALWAYS WIN MY HEART 1.reliability 2.resell value 3.drives so smooth 4.cheap on maintence 5.amazing on gas 6. no turbos on some models 7. all models come with hybrid
I second that. I have had many different Camrys over the years, and currently have 2016 XLE V6. May be a bit boring, but totally bullet proof. Also still own a 2006 Honda Pilot with V6, with same results, great vehicles.
@@davepalmerton2429 with those two vehicles you have, it may be quite some time before you have to get another one! You’ll most likely get bored with these vehicles long before they wear out. What a problem to have! 😃
Going back to '91, I've had two Hondas (both Civics) and 3 Toyotas (Sienna, Highlander and Corolla). While both Civics were good, they had more issues than the Toyotas. Even areas like paint quality and interior fits/finishes, the Toyotas won out in every case.
Please look into this. In my country, there are hundreds of cases of honda cvts with broken steel belts. This involves many honda models with cvts. This is very alarming news as cost of repairs are astronomical. Cases are well documented.
My dad owned 2000 Land Cruiser Gold Badge rolled over 700k miles. I'm surprised that SUV still runs like a new SUV. I tried to get one LC300, but it is not available in the NA market, so I ended up getting 2024 4Runner LTD 4X4.
As a Lexus master tech for over 16 years I still drive a 2018 Honda 2.0 EXL Reasons been that they are both reliable brands but Honda is more fun , features and looks
Rhf, I have a 2012 Honda Accord (125K miles)and a 2015 Toyota Venza (115K miles) - both have been excellent vehicles. I pretty much do the maintenance on both these cars, and I think it helps keep them out of the shop. Of course, more involved repairs will be delegated to the professionals such as yourself. Frankly I like tinkering with them - it’s my therapy. 😊
@@In-obscurity-n7j read deeper it mean I am a enthusiastic and the after market favor Honda and for your information I also have a 2004 Lexus LS 430 which was the last reliable in this model
@@codincoman9019 Not smart wouldn't a word I would used. Toyota is a direct auto manufacturer while Honda is a amalgamated one, so Toyota pour more resources into automotive while Honda is spread out
@@mikej238 yeah I get that but that’s also not always true especially since it’s Toyota and not other companies. For example, 2023 Prius, a new power train was still better compared to last gen Prius. Besides, you get new safety sense, more tech on newer models for likely the same price you put on 2023 rav4 xse Edit: I also see that you got suv already. Congrats on your ur purchase
Great review bud!!! I currently have the 2025 Honda CR-V Sport L Hybrid 2.0L NA AWD. I drove many cars before the purchase. Honestly, I like the Honda more in the driving experience, space, comfy seat etc. Honda is a very reliable brand along with Toyota. You can't go wrong with either brand but I prefer Honda overall.
@@myytchannel6632 Mazda became better than Honda over the last decade on the most important indicators a good car has (based on the relevant statistics): reliability and low TCO (Total Cost of Ownership). Plus the fun (it's no wonder it is called the Japanese BMW), the design etc.
Your comment from 12:20 on is very well said and needed to be pointed out. I couldn't have said it any better myself. 👌 Regarding these two vehicles considered in this video, my nod goes to the RAV4. The RAV4 is just the simpler of the two. For example, the RAV4 doesn't have a transmission. It uses Toyota's time proven Power Split Divider that has been in the Prius since day 1 and has proven to be virtually bulletproof. It simply uses the hybrids two electric motors along with a small planetary gear assembly that will fit in the palm of your hand to provide continuously variable power to the wheels. The CRV on the other hand uses a 2 speed hydraulically controlled automatic transmission with two clutches and several valves, supposedly to make it more fun to drive and give you "shift points" that make it seem more conventional. I've been in two CRV's (2024's) and two RAV4's (2019) and I preferred the ride experience of the RAV4. I own a 2018 Camry Hybrid which has the same 2.5 hybrid powerplant and I find it very enjoyable to drive. I don't see what the fuss is about not having shift points. Planes, jets, rockets, boats, snowmobiles don't have shift points and they do just fine. The CRV Hybrid with it's "transmission" adds another level of unnecessary complexity that is just another thing to require maintenance and repair. Also, with the RAV4, there is nothing between the front and rear axles connecting the rear AWD system to the engine. It just uses it's own electric motor back there to drive the rear wheels when needed. The CRV on the other hand has a full on mechanical AWD system with a transfer case, two piece driveshaft complete with carrier bearing and 4 U-joints, and a differential. All of which needs to be serviced and maintained. The RAV4 has none of that. Plus the CRV doesn't benefit from the regenerative braking that the rear electric motor in the RAV4 provides, and thus will wear the rear brakes out faster than the RAV4. The regenerative braking on hybrids makes their brakes last forever. But the real killer is the difference in real world MPG I've observed between my two friends that have the CRV Hybrids and the two that have RAV4 Hybrids. The two friends with the CRV's, I actually recommended that they buy them because they were having trouble finding RAV4's available to buy. The CRV's were readily available so they got those instead. The problem is that the two with the CRV's are only averaging 28-29 mpg, whereas the two with the RAV4's average 35-36 mpg. I feel bad now recommending they buy the CRV's. So that along with the simpler less mechanical/complicated approach of the RAV4's drive system turns my head to give the nod to the RAV4.
If you are comparing the "best," you need at least three items in your comparison. If you're comparing two items, the caption would read, "Which is better?" Ditto for "more" (two items to compare) and "most" (three or more items to compare).
In my country a lot if people buy second hand cars from USA and Japan. A lit of them are Toyota and Honda cars. One issue I have heard a lot is that Toyota hybrids have issues with their batteries way more often than Hondas do. Maybe where you come from and where the surveys took place, they don't keep the cars long enough to have those issues. It's just the bit of knowledge I can share.
Mechanics damage your vehicle to make more money. This is a terrible thing that I don’t doubt is going on. There are also mechanics working on cars that are unqualified, not trained properly, using incorrect parts, tools or incorrect diagnoses that are part of the problem. I recall the advice that if you find an honest mechanic that treats you well, treat him like gold. Improper owner operation of their vehicles I feel is not mentioned enough. Consists partly of poor maintenance, improper operation of the vehicle, declining necessary repairs and not following recommended repairs. The last point is difficult since many repairs just don’t always consist of one problem.
1.5 liter turbo in the Honda is a hard pass. I worry Toyota will soon have a turbo in the new design Rav 4. If that happens neither Honda nor Toyota will be worth buying.
I like both but I think the civic handles and ride much better against the corolla in the 2024 models. I would definitely avoid the turbo in Honda. Overall, its the toyota
The k20C and k series engines engines are the most reliable engines in the history of automobile.... Especially when you factor in max power output, engine abuse, engine retunning and also considering its a 4 cylinder...
I SO agree! I'm still loving my K20C2 and my K24V9 engines in my two Hondas I purchased brand new several years ago! I do maintain them extremely well, though. They actually drive and handle better that the day they had less than 10 miles on them.
Between the two (Toyota #2 and Honda #4), Mazda (#3) offers the best quality/price ratio, matching reliability, low TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) and plenty of fun. That's why my favourite drive is my Miata ND2 RF G-184, in front of the Suzuki Jimny 4x4 or the Lexus (#1) hybrid (all champions of their respective segments).
Isn’t this funny? As I was tuning into this video, less than a minute of the narrator said it, a commercial for Mazda came up….I haven’t seen a Mazda car in a while. I was raised on Toyota…the family van in the 80’s era was my favorite and she lasted a long time. I have a Honda dealership near me and I don’t know who to choose. But I’m in love with Toyota and the Toyota Corolla Cross is so cute…smack right in the middle of the RAV4 and the Highlander. Toyota and Honda have beautiful car designs but I’m a sucka for Toyota. Thanks for this awesome video 😊😊😊
@Shari how about Subaru compared with Toyota,I m planning to by 2025 new Forester, Is it worth to buy over Rav4 , or should I go with Mazda I m new to USA and doesn't know which to buy
Subarus will always have a beefier engine allowing for a nice and comforty handling especially on curves and turns. Can be as reliable as any Toyota or Honda but needs to be maintained and not neglected.
Isn’t there a 1.5L turbo in the Honda CRV. With the heat & pressure these engines are designed to fail. The money you save on gas will be spent on maintenance. If you get a CVT I would change the transmission fluid every 50,000 KM.
For the most part, l concur with this excellent analysis and opinion.Toyota/Lexus build great cars. Honda/Acura build great cars, but their pricing is getting prickly, espescially in Canada. Mazdas are also terrific, but behind on the Hybrid curve. Putting Subaru with these guys is a bit of a stretch.
In the 80’s-90’s Honda and Toyota were the same reliable vehicles, but now Honda is having major issues. Even some Toyota models are suffering from outsourcing. Stick to a Toyota is your best bet. I hear the new Sienna is super reliable. Any model using the 2.5 four cylinder engine is a workhorse. The new turbo v6 is having issues.
I've owned both. The Toyotas do seem to be in better condition when they turn over 250 K than the Hondas are. Actually anything Japanese is OK by me. Except Nissan. Won't do that again.
I agree with you but it’s so sad about Nissan. I owned a Datsun 510 in the 1970s at 200k miles it was tboned and wrecked. I gave the motor to a friend to modify and put in his boat. Motor was stripped and no measurable wear was found. It was a great engine. Pity Nissan lowered its quality standards.
I have owned honda civics, toyota tercel, echo, camry, mazda 2 and 3. All were very good. The Hondas and mazdas were more fun. But the toyotas were incredibly durable . All winners!
Toyotas are service friendly and spare parts easy to get, this is a big plus for DIY maintenance people. Some of that European stuff is a maintenance nightmare.
Toyota's Japanese factories are incredible. Toyota/Lexus are moving some of their vehicles back to Japan, because American plants don't have the same build quality. All Honda's are built in the US and none are built in Japan. We used to be a Honda and Acura family, though moved away because Honda's interiors are loud, tech is old, and Honda's interiors are built with cheap materials.
Toyota vs. Honda: A Detailed Comparison Choosing between Toyota and Honda is a common dilemma for car buyers, as both brands are renowned for their reliability, efficiency, and value. While they share many similarities, there are key differences that make one brand a better fit for certain individuals than the other. This analysis will delve into various aspects of both brands, examining their strengths and weaknesses to help you make an informed decision. Brand Approach and Target Market Toyota positions itself as a practical and reliable brand, focusing on producing vehicles that prioritize usability and dependability over sporty performance. They often target a broader market, including budget-conscious buyers seeking value for their money. Honda, on the other hand, emphasizes sporty design and performance, aiming to deliver an enjoyable driving experience. They tend to target a slightly higher-end market, appealing to those seeking more advanced technology and features. Reliability and Durability Both brands are known for their exceptional reliability, but Toyota consistently ranks higher in various reliability studies. Their vehicles are often praised for their longevity, with many owners reporting driving their Toyotas well over 200,000 miles with minimal repairs. Honda is also a reliable brand, but Toyota's reputation for durability and long-lasting quality is widely recognized. Safety Features Both brands offer comprehensive safety suites, but Honda has a slight edge in terms of advanced technology and features. Their Honda Sensing® system pioneered collision mitigation automatic braking and includes features like lane-keeping assist and semi-autonomous driving modes. Toyota's Toyota Safety Sense™ also offers a robust suite of driver assistance features, but it may not be as comprehensive as Honda Sensing in certain areas. Performance and Efficiency Honda vehicles generally offer more agile handling and engaging performance, making them a favorite among driving enthusiasts. Toyota prioritizes a smooth and comfortable driving experience, often focusing on refinement and quietness. In terms of fuel efficiency, both brands are industry leaders, with Toyota having a longer history in the hybrid market. However, Honda has been catching up in recent years with models like the Insight and the Accord Hybrid. Pricing and Value Toyota models typically have lower starting prices compared to comparable Honda models. Honda vehicles often come with more standard features and higher-quality interiors, which can justify their slightly higher price tag. When considering long-term value, Toyota generally holds its value better than Honda, resulting in lower depreciation and potentially lower insurance costs. Model Lineup and Variety Toyota offers a wider range of models, including more hybrid and alternative fuel options. Their lineup includes popular models like the Corolla, Camry, RAV4, and Tundra. Honda offers a more streamlined lineup, but their models are often highly regarded, including the Civic, Accord, CR-V, and Pilot. Conclusion Ultimately, the "better" brand between Toyota and Honda depends on your individual needs and priorities. Toyota is the better choice for those seeking: - Exceptional reliability and durability - Lower purchase price and maintenance costs - Higher resale value - A wider range of models, including more hybrid options Honda is the better choice for those seeking: - Sportier performance and handling - More advanced technology and features - Higher-quality interiors - A more streamlined lineup with popular and well-regarded models By carefully considering these key factors and your individual preferences, you can make an informed decision about which brand best suits your needs and budget.
Hi Shari absolutely love your videos, can you make a reliability video on the new chinese cars like geely, Gac, Jac, Jetour, Haval these cars are more prominent in Australia, Philippines and UAE apart from china
Toyota's top selling 2022/2023 Tundra truck is under a recall for engine failure. Also under recall is the Toyota 2022/2023 Lexus LX . Scotty Kilmer says keep a close eye on Toyota, bc they are not making them as good as they used to AND it takes a LONG time for a company to no longer be seen as reliable as it once was. : )
Neither are reliable as they once where. My dads 2024 Toyota Corolla had to have its electric parking brake fixed with less than 500 miles. He traded his 2020 Honda Civic for the Corolla, because the Honda dealership couldn't fix it's navigation problem. It only had 32,000 miles on it.
There are meteoric appearances of some clunkers in the Top 10 Reliability according to Consumer Reports annual reliability surveys. They get in and then they get out the next year/s. That's why it's better to use an average weight for the last few years when looking at such rankings. Then you will have at the top only the best Japanese brands and the clunkers like Mini, BMW, Kia, Hyundai, Audi, Infiniti, Buick, RAM, Dodge out of Top 10 Reliability.
I have just started watching your channel and I do enjoy it.. I was wondering if you could help out some poor Americans who feel obligated to buy "American" brands? If you could lump Chevy/Ford/Stellantis sedans and SUV's into a group and rate them in order so if you had to buy American at least you could chose the least objectionable ones. Thank you.
This video might be helpful ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j8AGCLVng90.html The main takeaway is that Stellantis is dead last so definitely avoid them. Keep in mind that many Japanese vehicles are made in America with American parts and labor. The same can't be said of all GM/Ford vehicles.
Costly reliability repairs tend to be non engine issues but other little things like my Honda 2018 CRV air conditioning issues veery year for three years that cost me over $1000 each time until I changed Honda dealership repair shops. I don't know if the problem is the dealership or the car.
True my 2024 MINI with 6,000 miles hasn't given me a single problem. My dads 2024 Toyota Corolla had to have it's electronic brake fixed with less than 500 miles. He told me I would regret getting a MINI because they are so unreliable. Out of respect for my dad I said nothing when he told me his Corolla already had to be serviced.
@@AlowisciousMahoney not really. Since the third generation with the 2015 model Mini's have had average and well above average reliability. I wouldn't have bought one otherwise. They are costly to get serviced out of warranty, but it's common for them to reach high milage now with no major issues. Same for BMW which owns them.
@@davcuts2897, writing about reliability on a car in warranty is the reason why stupid people mistake JD Power Initial Customer Satisfaction for a reliability survey like the one from Consumer Reports annual reliability survey (even that has mistakes such as Mini and BMW, but using the weighted average for the last years takes out such cars).
@@codincoman9019 I See Cars also has data to prove BMW and Mini's reliability have improved vastly for the past decade. They go beyond the warranty period.
GJ! Pls consider reviewing the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Also the Nissan Rouge and Sentra And finally, a car with a Chinese platform like Volvo or Lotus Appreciated!
I used to be a Honda fan but their button gear selector sucks. There’s zero point in it. It doesn’t save space and give you more storage and it’s there because they wanted it for no reason. My Tesla’s gear selector is on the stalks and Tesla gave me more storage. Also there non touch screen screen sucks on the Acura. Why don’t they get that touching the screen is faster than using that stupid touch pad? As for reliability I don’t t mind either.
I've driven both. Toyota is more reliable but they are boring to drive. Honda is reliable and fun to drive. Toyotas are so boring to drive honestly its like a beater car.
Most cars have turbo engines these days. But I would stay away from Toyota twin turbo V6 engines. Lots of issues lately with these powertrain going bad. Just do a RU-vid search and the proof is in the pudding. They will eventually get this right but it may take a few years. Their best bet is to use the inline Twin Power turbo from the Supra which has been proven very reliable for many years. It can yield lots of power and can take lots of abuse. That engine will have no problem moving any vehicle from a small coupe (Supra), a 4 door car, to a mid and full size 3 row SUV. Until they get their new V6 Twin Turbo as reliable as their previous powertrain, I would stay away from vehicles that include engine for now. Edit: We have no lemon law here in Canada and if a customer gets stuck with a bad engine from lets say a Tundra with the Twin Turbo V6, all Toyota can do is keep fixing it. This will inconvenience any customer who just spent a boat load of money for one of these vehicles. In the states with lemon laws, the car can be bought back by the dealer if it spends a certain amount of time in the dealer for repairs.
Honda has never, even once, surpassed Toyota in terms of reliability ranking. The same is true in terms of their luxury brands. Lexus has always been on the top spot, while Acura has consistently been on the bottom of the list.
Honda is the world's most productive when it comes to ICE, and are super reliable, the brand can be found in everything from motorbikes , lawnmowers to boats to generators and irrigation pumps, and more .. Toyota makes mostly vehicles. Honda will soon transition to BATTERIES for much of ICE needs if they are to survive, Honda is now working on Battery powered Motorcycles with other Japanese MC makers with the Batteries being interchangeable and swappable between makes. Toyota marketshare will soon be taken over by BYD who will become bigger than Toyota in 2030,that is less than 5.5 Years from today.
You're kidding me right you're making yourself look very foolish, the accusation that you're on drugs shouldn't drive when you're on drugs for drinking you should never leave foolish comments when you have no idea what you're talking about!!!! Have a good one
I guess I'll give you a little reminder at least Honda doesn't kill their customers can't see the same thing for Toyota a few years back when their gas pedal was staying on all the time some people have to show their vehicles in park or try to turn them off just to stop the vehicle there was a few accidents a few people died and if you got really injured there's many many many many many many lawsuits against Toyota for this why would they want to kill their own customers, but you're right that sounds really really reliable to me too I'm sure if your daughter or son or someone you love die by driving one of these you wouldn't put such stupid comments like the one that you did some compassion for people will you get over a Toyota garbage they were good a long time ago those days are done!!!
Honda is now below BMW in reliability. I loved Honda since the 1960’s with motorcycle and ended up with a 1997 Honda Del Sol which I still own The car I bought new. Honda has cheapened theirs until it has the reached the level of crap. Sochiro Honda would not be pleased! Turbo charged , direct injected , variable speed transmission and an electronic view control panel that when it fails it is throw away time. Yes Honda at one time was great. It just like Mercedes is living on its past cars
I strictly follow the maintenance instructions on all my vehicles. I have owned numerous Toyota, Honda and Mazda products. Toyota has proven to be the most reliable, but Honda is very close. I had a Corolla that had 360,000 miles and was still reliable transportation when I sold it. Also had a Civic with 245,000 miles that was reliable when I sold it. Both manufacturers make reliable vehicles and don’t cost a fortune to maintain. On the other hand, I have had 5 Mazdas and they last to about 120,000 miles before major issues crop up. I needed new transmissions at that point for 2 of these vehicles. I would not put them in the same category as a Toyota or Honda. Ironically, I have had good reliability with my Hyundai products as well and would definitely choose them over Mazda.
I'll put my VQ engine in my Murano up against any of this new turbocharged crap. No direct injection, no cylinder deactivation, no turbo, no start stop etc! And no timing belt to change every 100K.
Honda's new ground breaking oil dilution technology 👍🤣 govt is forcing manufacturers hand into producing problematic small turbo boosted engines due to environmental concerns. lets assign blame where it belongs. vehicles are engineered specifically to save the manufacturers money during the production process and if they turn out to be reliable then so be it.