Honest Review Of Fate/Stay Night: Heaven's Feel - III. Spring Song 

Since it's a visual novel where the whole story is released in one go we can get beautiful moments like this where saber (good) fought rider (bad) in the first route but it's flipped in the final route

So right now will be „Lord El-Melloi II's Case Files: Rail Zeppelin Grace Note”?

Fate Stay Night is garbage Fate/Stay Night: Shirou's plot armor One cannot talk about "plot holes" without mentioning the plot armor that Fate/Stay Night gives Shirou. 1. Shirou vs. Gilgamesh fight: The story can go on and on about how "Shirou has absorbed Archer's skills" and "Gilgamesh lets his pride get in the way" all it wants. It would be believable if the story let Archer win against Gilgamesh, but not Shirou. And here's why: Even Archer would have a bit of trouble defeating Gilgamesh. Shirou - who would lose to Archer in a fair fight (reminder: in his fight with Archer, Archer let him win) - should in no way defeat Gilgamesh. Shirou has gained UBW but his agility and skills were lacking; he was someone who didn't even know how to sword-fight 2 weeks ago. Meanwhile, Gilgamesh is famous for many forms of combat, battled gods and demons in his life, can manually use all the weapons in his GoB, single-handedly supplied several Servants at once while protecting Uruk with a magical barrier. Yet FSN dares use the excuse that "Gilgamesh is a king, not a warrior" (Hello, he is both!) for why a high-schooler would defeat him in swordfight. Gilgamesh isn't an A-rank melee combatant. But GARcher himself isn't an A-rank warrior at melee combat, either. Gilgamesh < Lancer in melee combat. GARcher < Lancer in melee combat. Shirou < GARcher. While UBW is a decent counter to Gate of Babylon, Shirou can't realistically physically keep up with Gil due to Gil being a demigod and Shirou being a human. Gilgamesh had 2 perfect chances to kill Shirou and co. when they were face to face before the showdown: in the first instance: Shinji stepped in (as if Shinji had any importance to him); the second instance, Gilgamesh has opened a dozen Gates of Babylon about to launch but the story doesn't forget to have Rin threaten to shoot Shinji as if she were a threat. Gilgamesh himself said that even if she killed Shinji, it'd be no problem to him. Yet he went, 'Ahhh, I've opened a bunch of GoB but I'll withdraw for now 'cuz I don't want dust on my clothes' - haha... what a ridiculous reason! This is the person who had crawled in dust to battle many things in his life. Not to mention that retreating is totally not Gilgamesh's style. UBW itself is a huge mana cost, while GoB costs much less mana and has the most powerful weapons in the universe. The weapons projected by Shirou are B-rank so they shouldn't be able to shatter Gilgamesh's A-rank weapons. It's only wistful thinking that UBW can match GoB: GARcher, while having Rin as a Master, could only take half of Heracles' lives and died in the process. Gilgamesh, while having a crappy Master like Kirei, took all of Heracles' lives effortlessly. Even if Gil didn't want to use Ea, he has numerous magical weapons in his GoB. Yet he only used swords against Shirou. Shirou is able to trace things that aren't swords but it's much more costly for him. Gilgamesh could have easily overwhelmed him with things that Shirou can't replicate repeatedly or replicate at all. The number of times you see Gilgamesh shooting hundreds of weapons from his GoB and suddenly he couldn't hit Shirou. The story never shows Gilgamesh in his golden armor, even in his fight with Heracles, because it has to make him look as vulnerable as possible. 2. Shirou vs. Kirei fight: Shirou is also shielded heavily by plot armor in his fight with Kirei. Did you see Kirei vs. Kiritsugu fight in Fate/Zero? That man fought like a demigod against Kiritsugu - who was an experienced assassin and well-versed in the defense art himself, who used Double and Triple Accel and still couldn't "get" Kirei. Shirou is a lesser mage and a lesser fighter than Kiritsugu, is simply no match for Kirei. This is a pretty typical hero's journey BS where the protagonist wins by plot armor and a lot of dumb luck. Berserker hit him once in the first fight of every route. And Shirou is unconscious for several hours afterwards. So no, Avalon is not an excuse. And when Kiritsugu was using Avalon and when Irisviel was using Avalon. They still got severely wounded like any other person. They still felt pain like any other person. They needed rest and time to recover like any other person. They couldn't brush off severe wounds like Shirou apparently can. So no, Avalon is not an excuse. Even when Shirou gave Avalon back to Saber. Shirou still magically survived what should have been deadly wounds. Even Kinoko Nasu admits Shirou has infinite plot armor Q: If Saber Alter and Gilgamesh seriously fought each other, which of them would be stronger? Nasu: Dark Saber has lost what you call the protagonist’s compensation, or rather the glimmer of the stars. So a miracle wouldn’t happen against Gilgamesh, it would simply be a measure of their abilities... Takeuchi: If it’s not in life but as Servants, wouldn’t it change a lot depending on who the Master is? Nasu: Back when they were alive, both had extraordinary magical energy output so it would be a pure battle of firepower. With his omnipotence and cunning (INT), Gil is slightly advantageous here. If it’s a Servant battle, Dark Saber can win against Gil if the “Master’s capacity as a Mage” is high. Gil will win against Dark Saber if the “Master’s charm as a human” is high. Takeuchi: What does that mean? Nasu: It’s because Gilgamesh tries to fight only with his own power, regardless of his contractor being a first-rate or third-rate Mage [v] Fate/Zero material - Encyclopedia: Gilgamesh [Servant], p.094 Gilgamesh [Servant] The Archer class Servant of the Fourth Holy Grail War. Though he was summoned by Tohsaka Tokiomi, he ended up deserting his master and re-contracting with Kotomine Kirei. He is the strongest character in both Fate/stay night and Fate/Zero. In the boy-meets-girl story of the original Fate/stay night he was forced to yield to the universal law of "love conquers all", but in Fate/Zero he's free to show off his overwhelming, cheat-like strength without restraint. He could have ended the war in a single night if he truly desired to do so. The author of Fate Stay Night outright admits Shirou is using plot armor to win. It can't get any more blatant and obvious than that.

I hope they will remake the VN and improve a bit the writing in the Fate Route (not saying it is bad, but with some tweaks it can get great). Maybe that will make them consider remaking the route in an anime by ufotable.

And there used to be the saber Rider cartoon which I used to watch, the guy who has a horse and a light bulb sword 😀

UBW was remade by Ufotable despite Deen having already adapted it and seeing how successful Fate is I wouldn't be surprised if they also remade the Saber route, not to mention that if they don't treat the Deen Fate as cannon then they won't be able to move on to Hollow Atraxia without the Saber route

@@luckyowl10 how many remake?last time they make for realta nua ps2 and ps3 already

Deen didn't even did that bad in the route, not as bad as Ufotable in HF. UBW still the most faithful, but Deen is overhated for no reason

and actually satans

@@rachelle3796 good point

shirou didnt get folded in this movie though

In Heaven's Feel III, shirou and kirei felt like the MVPs

...... you’re not wrong.

Bro gotta die for younger self. Don't say that 😅

Yeah archer was cable of doing everything shirou did except 100× better and with little consequences. He had the capabilities and army to win the grial in every route but that was never his goal.

That whole fight could've been way better but I won't complain

@@wrought-ironheroEMIYA in the anime, true Them cutting to Zouken was a mistake in my opinion should have stayed focussed on Kirei vs Shirou Zouken should have died and had his flashback as Shirou was walking to kirei

@@SDHVFS agreed zouken cutting in ruined it for me tbh

@@wrought-ironheroEMIYA Honestly, I felt the same way, but thinking back on it I believe that the VN fight was just too perfect to be adapted. What made Shirou vs Kirei spectacular was never their physical confrontation, it was the state of Shirou's mind during it, with parts of his brain literally disappearing as it was replaced with swords, and the VN does an incridible job of letting the player visualize that, by using broken text and effects. I don't know how the anime could ever give that same feeling.

Me too that is peak Fate

@@LunarEquinox the only downfall in fate/ stay in the kitchen is that shinji is alive

Wrong. The greatest Fate route is Carnival Phantasm.

Lmaoo

shirou reached heaven's feel even before iliya pulls her 3rd magic trick

They don't call ufotable unlimited budget works without a reason. They are masters at blending 3D with 2D animation and make it look so good.

There is no way I had no clue about that. Actually insane… and lol kind of messed up

I swear I'm not trying to be a smartass but several animators did a lot of sections for the fight. I guess the part you might be referring to is the Nozume Abe cut in the last 1 minute of the fight?

It actually 5.

@@luckyowl10 how wouldn't they have unlimited budget works when whales took their money to gacha for their waifu

Shirou is also best housewife

And Archer is best boi. And Kirei is SWOL. And Illya is legal...

Shirou's pretty fly for a white guy

I see you are a man of memes too. That song is so great.

@@ShirouBrando A subtle reference, but a welcomed one

he saves world in the original fate ending too just like his papa

Yeah i find it funny and cool that archer can do what shirou did but 100 times better and with little consequences. If he wanted to archer could win the grail in each route but just says "fuck shirou!" And focuses on that instead of winning

It is his arm though, just aged

Yeah also the grand caster d**ck wiz

Not ain't enough to utilize a grand servant for the angry mango. At best, the world would just sent a counter guardian, grands are for the beast of humanity when they emerge

@@yuri611 Yeah, he would’ve become a beast of humanity.

@@auraemerald8434 he isn't actually despite being the all evils of the world, to be a beast means to love humanity in their own twisted way and angry mango doesn't have that. Doman is the one closer but cannot advent because he don't have any loved for humanity

@@yuri611 actually nasu did say that angra would be a beast of humanity since it was stated in hollow ataraxia that he does love humanity

yes but miyuverse shirou is best shirou XD

@@fkez0510 Shirou used Neutral B there. That automatically makes him the best Shirou.

Eh, I found UBW more conclusive cause he won't end up being like Archer while having a similar path. He also had something with all characters unlike in Heaven's Feel where it's like only Sakura, Kirei and Illya and everyone else just exists.

@@thegamerfe8751 To be fair I enjoyed HF more just because Kirei and Illya are my favourite characters

@@anusaukko6792 To be fair they are the best parts about HF (VN wise, the anime butchers them and the only remotely good thing about it imo is just how good it looks) obviously along with stuff like Nine Lives Blade Works.

Lol that’s the story I want to see

No, Third Magic is the ability of turning inanimate object into a living thing. An ability to grant soul. Materialisation of the soul.

We can only hope for a Saber route. Unfortunately we don't have one yet ;P

...Why must you do this to me T^T

Heh "menu" i see what you did there

Lol it comes from saying I could edit instead of doing school work… always appreciate you appearing on all the videos!

Thank you!

Yes, man

We love dead shinji

He should have been yamcha instead of Lancer 🤔

Lol I just finished my last one when you commented this

@@LunarEquinox Cool

Thank you someone that thinks Illya being best girl and should be the main heroine of heavens feel. Which the story makes more since on her then not on Sakura as the main heroine. Because I don't buy much into Sakura story that doesn't make no sense on her like, I don't see her how does she get Angra Mayu which it doesn't add much to her story than Angra Mayu is supposed to make more sense into the Einzbern family plot story.

Illya was easily best girl in HF, my favorite girl from the VN

@@WinterFlowerSakuraSakura is the most accustomed to the curse and she’s been trained for 11 years no shit it’s about her And wtf why do people keep saying illya should be a heroine, are y’all pedophiles?

@@dog_curry Illya route doesn't need no romance or h scenes in hers. All I like to see in her route is a clean family sibling bond with Shirou. Not every visual novel doesn't need to be a eroge or a loli character to not have romance in theirs or h scenes but a clean story just for them something like the anime Angel Beats. Where the protagonist interacts with different characters and not just on female characters but male characters too. No romance but relationships being told differently. But one thing how come in ubw anime we see a flashback to Illya past how she made contact with Angra Mayu that a blob of looking mud showed up in her mansion home felling in Illya with lies that her father abandoned her and in the Fate route both visual novel and anime showed the curse mud of all evil coming right out behind Illya when she was kidnapped by Keiri in the finally scene of the story.

@@WinterFlowerSakura why do we need an illya route, her story in HF was well developed and fully explored

Whenever I get to it lol 😂I think I am doing apocrypha next but unsure

Probably

A genuine review

I would love to review the Great Lord Waver just not sure where I will decide to do it

@@LunarEquinox what about Prisma illya? You just need to think she is 18:D

@@bittersweetygo6114 She's 11 in the spin off though

@@malogor2127 read my sentence again and then watch your sentence...

Yeah

Though there are other singularities that werent adapted yet

I have no clue maybe apocrypha now

@@LunarEquinox ahh nice Astolfo and Mordred time

@@LunarEquinox fate outh under the snow ( it's the last of main line fate)

@@LunarEquinox yay, Mordred and Sisigou time!

@@swarnadeepjosh6591 but its Prisma Illya, not FSN still a good movie either way

Now we are talking

Hollow Ataraxia moment

Lol that’s what I said