Hey, fellow bee keeper here. I wasn’t able to see what kind of honey you have there in that big plastic bottle. Is there a reason you didn’t use local raw honey from a local bee keeper? There is three times as much honey on the market then actually exists on the planet so most of the honey you find in stores is cut with high fructose corn syrup or other sugar sources. It’s also usually pasteurized (even the labels that saw raw are usually heated to easily dispense the honey into containers). I’m curious what your results would be with local raw honey. Thanks for all your wonderful content!
I use willow water, I keep willow branches in a bucket of water outside , I stick cuttings in with them and let them sit until I see root growth, I also water my cuttings with willow tea water. works really well for rooting tree cuttings and roses.
I use willow chips in my garden. For 25 dollars a bag, it really improves any soil. Just using "wood chips" is OK, if you know what kind of chips. Some wood chips are not so good for the garden. Cedar for example, will stop growth, before it helps. Glad to hear I'm not the only one that loves willow, and it's uses.
@Tiger Cub I till them in and under. My rainfall is less then 7 inches a year. The thing about willow is that it has lots of little micro places to hold water. Straw is actually high in cellulose and if you shred it up it makes for good compost. If you have cactus around that is problematic, sundry all the moisture out of it, then burn off the spines as best as possible, then run through the chipper. Till that into the soil as well. I don't know the nutrients value, but it holds water like a sponge, and creates benefits for the soil micro systems. Good luck.
I watched this video and was very pleased to see someone,... ANYONE doing anything resembling an actual imperical trial of basic "internet rumors". I then searched the rest of RU-vid to see if there was anyone else that was attempting to do any objective, transparent studies that were similar. There were none. You have won the internet for me today. The next time I visit Canada, I'd seriously like to meet you.
I loved your experiment. I didn't give much credit to "rooting hormones" such as rooting powder and I had heard the other "alternatives" as well and because they are commonly grouped together and the others sounded far fetched, I had disregarded rooting hormones as well. but thanks to your proof of concept experiment, I am now a believer in rooting hormones.i will be buying some shortly after going through some of your videos to see what your personal preference or recommendation is for which one to get. thank you.
Ive seen a few experiments on RU-vid but clonex is amazing for rooting .it worked out well about 7 out of ten cuttings took well shoots of roots .clonex
Rooting hormones are essentially all natural. They work because they are the same hormones that plants use already. We were simply able to isolate and synthesize them. Plants also synthesize these chemicals, but likely through different pathways because chemistry isn't easy. But at the end if the day, a lab synthesized molecule is identical to a plant synthesized molecule, or it would be a failed synthesis.
People, use your brain, don’t use anything else to judge this, this is only a display of the experience on using 4 type of ways to propagate cuttings. Be WISE and FAIR please.
I tried everything possible trying to propagate hydrangea and other plants, but no success. I tried rooting hormone, cinnamon powder, and yes even honey. What am I doing wrong. Please help!
Great video Fraser - 1st time watcher - very helpful - have very old orange trees (2) that are just amazing - immense flavour, no pips (seeds) - not easy-peel but that doesn't matter. Once new wood shows I will go rooting powder all the way and possibly do some air layering.
Putting your firewood against a building is a great way to get termites in your structure, that is unless you have an all metal studs and non wood sheathing....
Thanks. Check my Amazon store. I'll link it below the video. I have Dip n Grow listed, plus Hormex #8 should be equivalent to the Stim Root I used (which is more a Canadian thing, I think)
Hi Alan. Thanks. I did check into the various recommendations before making the trial. There's not just one particular way of doing it. Some sources recommended diluting the honey with water, other not. Some sites insisted on raw honey, others didn't specify. Since the mode of action is supposed to be anti-microbial, I did find this study: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3042689/ which found that both raw and pasteurized honey suppressed bacterial growth. In the end, I knew I wouldn't satisfy everyone, so I just went with what I knew would be commonly available.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm honey water makes no sense to me, because unless the honey is there to protect the cutting, and to provide it with sugar, it's not going to do much. The honey being there still prevents rotting and other bad things happening to the cutting, that is the same thing that rooting gel does, especially the anti bacterial rooting gel, well minus the sugar, I am thinking about dipping cuttings in turmeric and then in honey, supposedly turmeric is a great rooting agent and I am wondering if together they might be better.
@@alanmercieca3086 Thanks... good to hear what you're trying. I'd love to take more time to do detailed trials on some things that I've seen suggested: aloe, cinnamon, asperin (and now turmeric!) - as is, I'm ready to consider adding a humic acid solution to my cutting routine because there's decent scientific evidence that it improves stick rate. Let me know how your turn out!
Spring or early summer would be best - but I did this in fall, with dropping temps on an unheated bench (thus the shock-and-drop of foliage!). If I'm fortunate with the weather, a fair amount will still lightly root before winter - but the ones with rooting hormone are way ahead.
Given all the warnings on the rooting powders and liquids about not using them for food trees or bushes, I can see no reason to use them for anything unless you're a commercial grower and in hurry to get saleable product. The time is money argument. I suppose that, for non-food perennials, if the risks this causes don't go beyond the plant produced this way then that's fine. All this video just did was convince me to never buy fruit trees or bushes from a commercial grower if I have any reason to suspect they were started from cuttings. Ornamentals may be another matter. When it comes to my own cuttings I'll take my own sweet time with air layering, water, Willow.... Since I try to pack as much genetic variation in my yard as possible, I try to keep clones to a minimum anyway.
Thanks Ruby. It sounds like you're doing what you can to grow naturally, and I can respect that. My goal in the video is not to convince you to use rooting hormone (if you're otherwise not inclined to) - only to check the premise that honey is a suitable rooting agent. Just while we're talking rooting hormone though, I wouldn't mind knowing your source(s) on the danger of rooting hormone on edible plants. The EPA (2000) concluded that “this plant growth regulator poses no known risks to humans or the environment,” and “in animals, indole-3-butyric acid is rapidly broken down to a closely related, harmless chemical that occurs naturally in living organisms.” And that's referencing direct contact. The amount that would (or could) persist in a plant stuck with rooting powder may be so low as to be untraceable. Of course, I guess it depends on how much you trust science (or at least these scientists) - but I wouldn't mind hearing an alternative view.
@@loshinirangan3013 I dunno, but since these are rooting agents I imagine they'll work on any rooting plant. Um, is there a plant that doesn't root? Can't imagine so, but i dunno
Thank you for informative video. I had great results using pussy willow cuttings with rubber plant stem (broken by a flying football). Sansevieria leaf, hydrangeas and roses. This was initially a happy accident. I brought a small arrangement of wild flowers that was so cute with cheerful colors that had a few p. willows in it. My mom gave me 3 pink roses as a birthday present. I only had one vase that was tall enough which had the wild flowers in it. I added the roses and it look beautifully. So to my surprise the roses developed roots and continued adding a new growth in the vase. Later I experiments with trimming from my mom's garden. Now as a apartment dweller, I add my golden pothos for cuttings that I prizes. Presently I have pothos and epiphyllum cuttings in a glass. I'm confident I will see strong healthy roots in a couple weeks.
@Victor Yatall It has to be raw, unfiltered honey and Ceylon cinnamon for best health benefit, so maybe that combo for rooting too … I’m curious to try it now.
Thanks for the great video. You've answered some questions but I have more. I'd like to root some cuttings off of my Japanese Cedar Tree. Got any suggestions as to when would be the best time to take cuttings and should the cuttings be of the soft wood or hard wood? Thanks again.
Interesting as I just yesterday made 6 Rose cuttings (twice 3 different roses). I stuck a 5 cm piece of a soft willow branch which a smashed a bit close to (1 cm) each rose cutting. Never tried it before, I have previously use rooting powder. So this is of course an experiment without comparing with rooting powder. Previously I tried honey and it didn’t work at all. I’ll be back in approximately 8 weeks with the results.
Used rooting hormone, in a dozen deshojo cuttings... sticked half of them in sphagnum moss and the other half in pine bark mixed with perlite, How long should i wait before checking? And does checking every 2 weeks harm them?
If you're gentle, you can check without much risk of damage. After 2 to 3 weeks, I give them a gentle tug, and if they pull back firmly, I take that as a good sign
I have no problem recommending rooting hormone powder with IBA. It's a naturally occurring hormone. If you're an organic purist, it might be willow water instead.
I am shocked you got the results you did from the Dip and Grow using it like you did . Directions say to soak the starts for a short period of time , NOT dip them . I have used this product for about ten years now and have no complaints about it .
Thanks. I caught my error after I took the footage, and re-dipped those for 5 secs. each. I had a look again today, and the root development is pretty much even between the Dip n Grow and the rooting powder.
@@wompbozer3939 Yeah of course...but just as coffee or tea in the morning wakes people up quicker than water does, these extras do similar to the plant rooting. Speeds them up. Just clarifying.
Collin Wadham I’ve done side by side tests with cannabis clones, and there was no difference. Meanwhile, I’ve watched people skip entire crop cycles because they didn’t have any “ rooting powder”. They wouldn’t even try just using pure water
Since the Rootone/Rooting powder always comes off so easily I've done two things: dip cutting first in honey then the powder, or make a diluted solution of SUPERthrive and dip into it first then the rooting powder. Both seem to work better than only the powder.
I rooted a lot of hydrangeas and crape Myrtle last month now all I see is roots! I’m happy with honey. I’m hoping the air layering I made with rooting hormone will be successful!
Great video... again. Really learned a lot already on your channel. Thank you so much for your work! Willow Water beats all other things I tried, in initial rooting AND growing more and stronger roots, that´s my experience, with all kind of ornamental plants, trees and herbs. It sure does if you measure it in Bucks paid. I don`t really measure the ratio, I take what ever container I have, fill it up with soft bark peeled off the wood, till it is full, not pressing down. Water to the top. Leave it for 24-48 h. Not longer and no lid on the container! Put the cuttings in it, one or two nodes deep, over night, then plant it next day. Dilute the rest 1:1 and water other plants with it. Works all year, but best in spring when the Willows start growing.
Thank God finally somebody made a real comparison of different types of propagation. Again I'm very straightforward an excellently done video. A true professional.
Good afternoon everyone. Is it possible to root a persimmon ??? If anyone has met a positive example, please write. Всем добрый день. Можно ли укоренить хурму??? Если кто встречал позитивный пример, напишите пожалуйста.
Real natural bee honey of high quality should have a rooting effect thru the bees enzymes in the spit, your own spit is great to give enzymes to plants aswell i usually use nothing and just my spit for a while on the cut over part and down in wet soil
I've learned to use small pieces of Aloe Vera and have had great results. I'm attempting to try the Honey experiment now myself. Let you know how it goes.
The properties of honey are, if anything, antibacterial/anti fungal. It would therefore be more useful if you had chosen a variety which is susceptible to problems of infection. You chose a variety which roots easily, so it must be pretty robust and dipping it in honey was never going to make any difference, at least not unless you did thousands of cuttings. Good effort, there are loads of people extolling the virtues of various treatments without any evidence whatever. But I think you kind of missed an opportunity to see if honey really is worth trying with problem cuttings.
Hi Callum. It was admittedly a pretty limited trial - and not all that controlled. Mostly for the sake of starting the discussion, to tell the truth. I generally don't have a problem getting a good success rate with rose cuttings - but the speed or rooting really makes a difference. After a couple of tries, I'm pretty convinced that honey does little or nothing to help the speed of forming callus or roots. Thanks for your thoughtful comments
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Why exactly do they have to be rooted for winter? Im just doing small indoor batches at home... is it a Temperature thing? Also do the cuttings need a lot of daylight? Ive just been able to get my hands on some 1% iba powder and its much better than clonex which seems to weak. I guess im still too impatient though because ive been pulling them out almost daily to check for kallus? Do you think thats harmfull to roots growing at all? Have you had rose varieties that didnt root at all or veeeery diffult?
My best survival rate for overwintering plants is when they'll well rooted to the sides of the pots, and I think it's the low temperatures and susceptibility to rot. If my cuttings are well-rooted and growing fast before winter, they seem to come through okay, but if they go in with weak roots and low energy, they sometimes succumb to winter damage/rot.
there are no magic bullets, rooting cuttings without any hormone is the best method. variations in the growth of roots depends just as much on the compost as anything else the compost should contain the correct stimulation naturally but in this world where plant diseases can travel hundreds of miles in compost most bought compost is sterile at the time of packing it may contain nutrients but be basically dead soil. a little bottom heat usually helps. if you do not have any luck with cuttings try cutting a rose down to about nine inches let new shoots sprout cover the base of the shoots with compost and leave well alone for the winter when the shoots have grown another six inches you will have ready rooted roses to split off the main stem. throw away anything that grows below a root stock graft unless you want to try grafting. Leave one shoot on the stem to let the original plant recover.
I've been doing #3 with good results (semi-hardwood) - might make sense to try #8 for some of the more difficult-to-root varieties, but I haven't experimented a lot with rate.
Willow water works really well for me. Just leave willow leaves and sticks in a bucket of water for a few days. Stick your cuttings into the same bucket and leave for an hour or so. Then plant, and keep watering with willow water.. FREE
There is this study called "Effect of alternative hormones on the rootability of parkia biglobosa" by Oluwagbenga Dunsin, where they tested honey, and other alternatives to rooting hormone, they didn't find that the use of honey was not particularly helpful, but in comparison the use of coconut water and moringa leaf extract was somewhat successful, have you ever heard of these? Could you try it's effect on roses? And thank you so much for your videos, are really inspiring.
Please if you could answer this, I'm rooting my cuttings indoors and without any thing , I cut on an angle and scraped the bottom a lightly. Dip in water and planted in organic potting soil, also while in doors will they still root through winter, this was just experiment,
Hi Donna, I have better success in the warmth and light of summer. Maybe if you also have grow lights inside it will help. Are you doing anything to trap humidity? It can be quite dry indoors for rooting.
Hi Dorian. Have you rooted many different types of willow and found the weeping type to be easier? I've rooted 8 or 9 different types (including the types used for basketry) - they all were equally quick and easy.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm You will have done more than me! I was basing this on the farms near where i grew up that cultivated them for basket/fence making, just shoving them in the ground. Its a dying industry though.
Nice experiment! So if i used honey or cinnamon powder in the first place, can i take those cuttings out and dip those in rooting powder and plant again? Will that work?
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm yes, red onion common natural hormon here (tropical), for rooting stem and air layering, used too for transplating hardwood plant from nature into pot. Best way using red onion while start tiny sprout foliage with clean white root, high auksin at those time
Thanks, really enjoyed this. Simple yet informative. I have almost 100% success with roses not using anything , however, likely not as quick to establish as using rooting hormone now that I see your results. I have tried bottom heat but, unlike other plants, roses do healthier without it. Not to impose but the same experiment would be interesting with a more temperamental plant like clematis.
I've only ever regrow one plant unsure of name, it was a ground spreader and placed it it a small milk bottle with water on my window cill in doors, kept it in there for 6-8 weeks and needed to cut the plastic bottle away as there was loads if roots and it was plain rap water 🤔
First thought, if the honey was thick on the stem I'd think the moisture wasn't able to get to it, making the clone wait until the honey thinned out before it was able to start callus or rooting.
I just listed a pot/tray combo in the same size on my Amazon store - I saw something similar on Greenhouse Megastore. I get mine from local distributors of hort. supplies in Canada.
Hi Jennifer. I tried the potato thing too, and it turned out poorly vs. potting soil. Here's the vid: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DK2BqAMSxyc.html The final results on the honey cuttings were significantly worse than with rooting hormone - nearly 100% with powder to only 30% with honey.
2 questions: 1) your opinion on- a RU-vidr’s experiment w several methods.But, 1 showed best results (90%), used #LimeJuice +/- 1-2 ounces (50ml) IN w #RootHormone. They rooted profusely after 3 months. 2) What’s the #MAX length of #TIME we can keep Rose stems before using them as Rose cuttings? E.G. can they stay in H2O for a couple of days, while we enjoy the roses in a vase, then cut stems for propagating? (I love bringing my 🌹 indoors for their beauty & amazing scent.)
My Peggy Martin rose cutting seems like it's shooting (I can see small leaves coming out of the nodes) and the cutting is resisting in the pot, so it looks like it has rooted too. It is in a small pot in potting mix in my covered patio. What should I do now, wait more or bring the cutting in the full sun (too hot these days in Houston, TX) in the same small pot and potting mix?
I'd begin to transition it to outdoor conditions and once you see strong new growth and rooting to the sides and bottom of the little pot, you can transplant upwards
The rooting hormone powder was Stim Root #2 (at 0.3 or 0.4% IBA I think) - in the US it's more likely that you'd find Hormodin powder (at the same concentration)
Mostly talc. The active ingredient is IBA (Indole butyric acid) usually less than 1% which is a synthetic version of a naturally occurring plant hormone
My final results weren't very promising for honey - rooting powder outperformed it by a lot. Raspberries are pretty easy to root (I like semi-hardwood, a bit later in the season, but I bet you could do softer "tip" cuttings too). If you don't want to use rooting hormone, there's some evidence willow water can help
Awesome video. My Neanderthal brain is telling me to do the routing method like I eat a burrito just take all the best ingredients and mix them all up. I wonder what would happen if I just made a masterbatch that had everything in it including some aloe vera and some turmeric. I do have to say this though, I've had really good success with different type plants using Viagra. That is absolutely not a joke what I am saying is if you take any one of the Viagra type medicines like Cialis or Levitra or whatever they are and you grind it up and put some of that powder in your vase with your roses they will last two or three times as long and a few times I have seen the Roses were rooting. Okay that's my two cents thanks so much for sharing your knowledge.
I usually see rhodos propagated with semi-hardwood in mid to late summer. I didn't have the best luck with honey in this trial, so I might point you towards IBA-based rooting powder.
No, people have it confused. Honey is an anti-fungal/bacterial. It in any way does not help rooting, although I'm sure it helps keep it clean. Rooting powder is a chemical that tells the plant to root immediately.
thank you Jason, brilliant comparison. i have asked you this before, but i am still struggling with roses from cuts showing very active green leaves for a while and they become blackish and die. when i check about roots, there is no roots. is it possible to have green foliage without roots? i tried to control water and humidity, but looks like i am still doing something wrong? any guidance? thanks
Hi Mohamed. Yes, many cuttings can persist with green stems (and even new shoots) but then fail because they didn't root. If you're already keeping good control of soil moisture, and you're using a fairly inert potting mix, there are two other things I can suggest: 1) increase the concentration of your rooting hormone, and 2) use bottom heat to encourage rooting.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm many thanks Jason, great advises. much appreciated. Any recommended rooting hormone percentage activity and effective type. currently i am using Garden safe (Take root) with activity of 0.1% Indol -3 butyric acid thanks again
@@mohamedabouzour9649 I think it is where you live. Here in Manchester England , I carry a screwdriver and a knife. When a rose is too long I cut off 8 inches, make a hole with my screwdriver and stick it in, I month it is rooted and flowering. El Ham Du Lilah ! BUT Not All Rose Species Will Root.
