Horizon Hobby - Citation Longitude UMX - Flaps Mod & Flights

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@rominmcgowan2093 3 года назад

Brian Phillips I agree with just taping some flaps at maybe 10 degrees. On on (uncontrollable ) HK A150 (cheap 747) I hot glued my flaps at 10 degrees and it will high alpha now.

@BrianPhillipsRC 3 года назад

COOL!

@WTJimmy 4 года назад

Excellent R&D to open up the flight envelope dramatically... Nice teamwork from both of you!

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Thanks!!! It'd would be AWESOME if we didn't have to R&D ;) I love flaps so much, and it kills me that we have to add them :(.... BUT what a beautiful platform, from which to start!!! Horizon Hobby - ONE UP THE AL37!!! - You can do it!!!

@toby1444 4 года назад

Great work on the Citation. Slow flight makes such a nice fly by!

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Yes it does! Thanks!

@Doggeslife 4 года назад

Nice! I mod/upgrade some of my planes even before first maiden fight. This is where the REAL fun is ;-) Love the video. Happy flying!

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Don't do it before you fly it some. This plane flies wonderful even without flaps, BUT when you realize just how awesome it would be slowed down to an even more scale flight appearance, you can copy away!!! Good luck!

@JeffsCustomRC 4 года назад

Typical Brian Phillips mod guys, love the ingenuity and explanation of everything you do, great mod buddy, love it👊🏼👊🏼💥💥🔥🔥👍🏼👍🏼

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it Jeff! I didn't think I'd do it, but here we are!!! ....and I'm glad I do too!

@micheleg9492 4 года назад

Well done 👍 you have to show to the HH teams this is great idea for future UMX planes ✈️ take care

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

I'll pass along the message to the CEO - LOL!!! - I suspect they might hear about it through the grape vine ;)

@christianrindlisbacher7185 4 года назад

Great flying and show

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Thanks Christian!

@MALNTV 4 года назад

This is the Brian I missed. Welcome back!

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

I'm glad I could do it. This project was quite the plunge too! I was very nervous cutting into that wing, but I'd say I'm happy with the results.

@proprotornut5389 4 года назад

Great job Brian. If HH had added flaps and optional leading edge slats and poss retracts, I would have bought this and gotten into spectrum for sure. As it is I'm still with taranis and opentx. Maybe one day. Great slow speed performance on that beautiful jet now. I love it. Thanks for your great videos.

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

I'm not holding my breath on retracts for a UMX....although that would be AMAZING!

@gbro8822 4 года назад

Wow, great job. Thank you guys

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Thanks G Bro!

@timbacchus 4 года назад

Love all the lights on the new planes makes you want to leave a battery in and hang it from the ceiling when not flying.

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Yeah! If you did, don't use a lipo :) P.S. I was filming a not yet released video, and was saying I should use the SMART Checker to make all the servos move, and that would be one heck of a display!!!

@keithshillbillyrcn849 4 года назад

Hello Brian and Mrs Megan aka camera crew. The master of mods is at it again. Well done on the mods. The radio set up is always good. As i said before always learn a trick or two from your videos. Thank you for your video keep flying you guys. Just having fun RC'n with friends and family members

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

You're very welcome!

@falconmode7199 4 года назад

You did it Brian, Great Job

@falconmode7199 4 года назад

When I get mine I should do the same

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

After you fly it a few times and really enjoy it, then think about it. Also, make sure you have the TWO additional servos, and a day or so to do the work :)

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Thanks 👍

@bert1058 4 года назад

Brain, you got the job done but it wasn't pretty. I watch the-whole-long-video and thoroughly enjoyed it. I love watching your relentless pursuit of whatever you're trying to accomplish. Thanks for sharing!

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

I'm so glad you did. It's so much worse when you have to beat your own head against the wall ;) Now you can do it, and REALLY understand why you're doing it!!!

@Benny-zv5uz 4 года назад

amazing job!!!

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Thanks! I wish I would have gotten it on the first crack, but then it would be TOO easy ;)

@mikewhitaker2306 4 года назад

Nice job really cool don't really think UMX need flaps but for the scale look it's great

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

It flies so much slower now - it's delicious!!! Needed - no - but wanted - YEAH!!!

@robertageorge52 3 года назад

Hi I just added a Deltang 1 gram 6 ch receiver bound to the same model, and now access channels 5 and 6 as required.

@BrianPhillipsRC 3 года назад

Cool! Second Rx, meaning TWO Rx'es? I've done that too, see back to my Cessna 182 UMX, if you wish ;)

@BrianPhillipsRC 3 года назад

Be careful! If you bind ONE to DSMX and the OTHER to DSM2 you will have wierd things happen!!! I only know because it happened to me in the Cessna Project. I had to use BOTH DSMX or BOTH DSM2. Also, you'll have the same Exact issue since Channel 6 IS used on this plane. If you're replacing the WHOLE brick, you'll be fine, but no SAFE and AS3X.

@francisconti9085 4 года назад

Had to try to watch this, have a 1/2 hour free, HH looking towards a version 2 yet? Lol.. Matt Andren made a nice CRJ 200 regional jet w/flaps and trail link main gear few years back..led to the nice Cessna.. I use the RATE adjustment to control SAFE limits, up to 90°.. if it works w/the Rx .. good for locking 30/45/90° angle in turns or locking in flare angle of attack limit for landing, good to learn how to use, good for sharing w/new pilot so they can't dive/baloon-stall.. fun flying "raw" & using SAFE @ times to augment precision/smoothness 😎👍

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Pump the breaks....you set the bank and angle limits on your Tx!??!?! HOW??!?! I NEED TO KNOW!!!

@francisconti9085 4 года назад

@@BrianPhillipsRC yes, we all do! This has worked on my origional model Timber, Commander MPD, Sportsman S+, etc planes with SAFE..on my old Spektrum Dx7 I have dual rates for Elev on left, Ail on right.. in the menu when you set up the RATE pos 0/1, the RATE you select alters the limit angle.. I don't know for certain off the top of my head right now away from the radio, but I think 60% gives me 45° bank limit, 100% gives me 90° bank limit..with 3 pos sw you could get an intermediate angle.. like 30, 45, 90°, or limit it further for "overcontrol limiting" during training on slower planes so student isn't whipping the plane all over while learning orientation with a wide holding pattern w/less sink vs a tight one..saving power. Elev is great for "locked" climbout angle of choice, or flare attitude lock, plane won't exceed the angle, can be useful in high alpha maneuvers in the same way, but throttle inputs will actuate more positive Elev(climb) so you have to learn the points of Thro/Elev mix, but cool system when you exploit it! Let me know how it turns out for you

@francisconti9085 4 года назад

If it works the same for you, it opens up a lot more control.. ESPECIALLY "YEARNING TO TURN" IN FAST FLIGHT in safe mode, counters all the complaints ..😎👍

@shiznuts 4 года назад

Woah! Noice job! I was wondering how these would be with flaps... ... kinda makes you to have manufacturers to put flaps on everything! Like Captain Robert would say 'What's with you hey! Don't go too fast! Just get it slow and sexy so you can really enjoy it, hey!'. xD

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Yep ;)

@alangentry6295 4 года назад

Good upgrade I like watching your channel a lot of good ideas and I like giving you some ideasPS I bought that yak-130 70 mm freeway and it I modified it and it is one of the best flying jets I have I put the 2300 KV EDF and what a performing jet if you're interested I'll let you know more of the details and I like flaps too

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Thanks Alan! Glad were here to share tips with one another :)

@engineerahmed7248 3 года назад

I'd have found a workaround to put both SAFE & FLAPS on same channel...So SAFE on meant SAFE on & Full flaps Coz u need both safe & flaps for level flight only

@BrianPhillipsRC 3 года назад

No. I use flaps ALL the time. I agree that many would like them to be on at the same time, but I'm not that person. Keep in mind, limited Bank and Pitch angles with SAFE on. This will make WIDE turns and possibility of running into stuff on approach or takeoff. I definitely didn't leave that stone UN-turned ;)

@Jack-gy7cs 4 года назад

Nice work, Brian and camera crew. :) On the Carbon Cub S+, it comes with flaps that just need to be cut loose. The only thing I had to buy was the recommended servo for about $15. The installation was straight forward. I haven't even flown the plane yet, waiting for more experience on the small UMX planes that I don't mind crashing so much as not much damage occurs. I've been watching some of your older videos and see some really cool planes that are no longer in production from HH, but yet that stupid worthless little Duet is still being produced. I bought that as my first plane and hated it because flying it in any breeze was just too much for a beginner like me to handle. Now with a little more experience from the Mini Mustang P-51D I still think the Duet is a piece of crap. So why do they stop manufacturing the cool planes and keep on with junk like the Duet? Just venting here....sorry. Keep the videos coming, I love them.

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Jack Mills - totally agree, why discontinue awesome planes like the Conscendo Advanced, only to keep turds like the Duet??? Well, it's because they can sell a Duet for $60 or so RTF....and that's a price point that sells ;( That being said, I agree with your irritation... I had forgotten the flaps were already prepared, only requiring a plug be pulled and one 9g servo installed. If I review that plane, I'll get a servo and put in the flaps ASAP!!!!! All STOL planes deserve flaps ;)

@Jack-gy7cs 4 года назад

@@BrianPhillipsRC I forgot the GPS can be turned off at any time, even while flying, simply by holding the bind button and cycling the flight mode switch 3 times. It cannot be turned back on until landing and unplugging the battery.

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

AWESOME, but can you avoid the ridiculous "Dance" for setup...since it would otherwise fail to initiate, right?

@jeffweidman1172 4 года назад

Holy smokes that thing is fast!

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

That's what she said......

@ralphmcintire1 Год назад

Brian , I have completed all the the transmitter setup and am ready to try the citation. When not in safe mode the flaps work fine and go to the flaps up position. The elevator is also working with down being added when flaps are deployed. But in safe mode I am getting the flaps to be close in position to my take of position. Do you see the same thing? I have watched the video several times and never see if that is what you are getting... I know the flaps in safe mode are tied to the rudder channel , is this causing the rudder travel to be in the center of it's travel,or take off flap position? Just wanted to check before I try to fly it. Thanks

@BrianPhillipsRC Год назад

You might need to try to separate the 7th channel from the flap switch. I had some issues with this when I tried to recreate this for a flight just the other day NOW using my NX8...but my first setup was DX18 Gen1 - very different!!!! I want to say I can help, but we've been slammed and don't want to say I know, since I just haven't figured our the answer to your question YET....at least with NX8.

@toby1444 4 года назад

It looks fast!

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

With flaps, you can slow her down to a CREEP!!! Which is what I wanted. Also, flying her on 2S with flaps is AMAZING!!!

@DaveItYourselfChannel 3 года назад

I use 'hot glue lenses' on all of my UMX birds and any E-flite bird that has the exposed LED's! Nice R/C Hack Brother! Kudos and best regards! - Dave

@BrianPhillipsRC 3 года назад

Nice!!! Hot Glue or CA helps a lot!

@timbacchus 4 года назад

Remember they judge the pilot by his landings. Learn to Love what must be done. I like that.

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Oh yeah, my wife's sign ;)

@marcusbost8481 Год назад

You gonna flap up the umx twin otter? I just bought an otter and I’m already thinking of using my umx turbo timber flap system. 😅

@jasoncurrie1979 2 года назад

Where did you put your battery for the correct CG when you done the 2s flight cuz I plan on flying with two s , 1 thousand milliamp batteries

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

You'll have to watch the video to see what we did. I can't recall exactly.

@robertageorge52 3 года назад

Hi , yes it must be matching DSM2 or DSMX. I’ve used it successfully, but on the citation channel 5 must be for safe leaving only 6? On my umx DSM2 As3x spitfire, channnels 5 and 6 are free and can be reprogrammed with the the to ignore the I port and second ail channel. Don ‘t know if citation’sthe same, but I’ve just bought one And want to fit retracts, so I’ll check it out. Good flaps any way!

@BrianPhillipsRC 3 года назад

Thanks, and good luck!

@robertageorge52 3 года назад

PS , if citation uses ch 6 as well, then the lightest dsmx 7 + channels rx will be needed! I must have retracts....

@BrianPhillipsRC 3 года назад

Retracts would be seriously difficult to pull off on this plane, but if you do it...I'll be the first one to watch your video :)

@ralphmcintire1 2 года назад

Brian, I just completed my conversion of flaps also on the citation but I purchased the parts,servos,pushrods,control horns from horizon. I found that the AS6410NBL receiver is programable and you can turn on channel 5 or change rev. aileron channel to 6. I have tried this on the citation's receiver but no luck so far. Horizon states that it is programable in the citition info. Have you tried or found out anything else? It would be great to get it to work correctly,or use your method with no rudder,or I have a way now to set the flap position then unplug them from the receiver. There has to be a way to program it. I put spoilers on my night radian and went into the 636 rec. and turn on the channel they had turned off. If a person could talk to the right person at horizon I know it could be done. It seems very hard to get the very techincal questions answered like ,I want to put two avian esc in a twin engine ec-1500 but how do you program both in the same plane or how on the transmitter. Still have not gotten a response from them.... Thanks for your time,Ralph I wish I could send you a picture of how my mod looks....

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Twin Avians - watch my A-10 Thunderbolt V2 series and see what we did...the ESC are programmed SEPARATELY, then put on one channel... Avian ESC Programmer bit.ly/3FU73lY As for programming the AS6410NBL - I can't speak to it. Never done it. When we did this plane, we were JUUUUUST breaking the surface of forward programming, and didn't even really understand what we had YET...so maybe there's another way [now]? I try to use the UMX planes stock(ish) anymore, but want flaps so bad on this plane. With my mods and rudder, I love the way this plane flies, but to be fair, it flew good before...not it's GREAT!

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

As for asking Horizon Hobby about "unlocking" Rx'es - I've been working on that the whole time we've been with them. We are making some headway. Jason, my primary contact, is very responsive to our needs as pilots, and LOVES this stuff as much or more than me, so he's been a huge help in these areas. We recently worked together (Well, with some prompting from me, and probably others) to get the T-28 nose gear bogey available as a stand alone item...this and lowering the price of the whole set too ;) These are small issues, I realize, but when you LOVE plane, you want to remove the holdups for people that are reluctant to get them!

@502stingray 3 года назад

This is a really cool modification to your Longitude! I wonder if there is a way to set up the ailerons to act as flaperons?

@BrianPhillipsRC 3 года назад

Not that I could figure out. These UMX Bricks are locked down, but even if you could, you'd see that the outboard flapperons work poorly in these swept wing applications, at least as compared to inboard flaps.

@502stingray 3 года назад

@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks for the info in the UMX! I'll be pulling out old micro servos for some flaps! Btw, I saw your A380,330 & 320 videos! am building speed brakes and a braking system for my A340 that I just bought. I am super excited and nervous for a heart attack 😬

@FalconWing1813 4 года назад

HORIZON HOBBY Please watch this video, Make a Cessna Citation V2 with flaps !! But Dont change the Color / paint scheme , looks great already!!

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

yep :)

@triple7flyer 4 года назад

Cool 😎

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

I agree! Wish flaps were stock, but this one was pretty "doable"

@mdghouse5447 3 года назад

Nice ✈ 😎😍💪💖👍

@BrianPhillipsRC 3 года назад

Thanks ✌

@mdghouse5447 3 года назад

@@BrianPhillipsRC 😙

@blueshock 2 года назад

Hey Brian! Love the video. I’m actually considering getting this plane, and I wanted to ask you, will a DXS transmitter work with this plane? Thanks

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

It WILL work, but I wouldn't recommend it. If you have 2-3 planes, make the switch. Get a programmable Tx like the NX8 and you will never look back. The sting of the 2-3 planes worth of expense will be quickly forgotten, and you'll be able to get just about any plane. NX8 or better... NX bit.ly/3mbVuNB

@blueshock 2 года назад

@@BrianPhillipsRC Thank you so much man

@mrhilma 3 года назад

The noise! The noise!

@BrianPhillipsRC 3 года назад

Yeah! it's pretty annoying!!! BUT what a sweet plane!!!!!!!

@miller7759 4 года назад

Those flaps and that flight Looked good Sir....Is there any way to mix in Differential Thrust to compensate for the loss of the rudder? Your Call Sign is Now ''Flaps'' Cpt Brian ''Flaps'' Phillips lol....

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

I wanted so badly to do this exactly, but it's the loss of discrete channel that causes the loss of the rudder axis...therefore, you could, but then you could just add flaps to that "top" channel and avoid losing the rudder in the first place.

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

I will stay, toward the end (did you watch), I add back in the steerable nose gear, and it worked wonderfully! I also put that small piece of clear plastic for some coordinated turns, and that also worked wonders!

@anthonydennis4834 4 года назад

Why not transfer the UMX carbon Cub's electronics to the Citation? Just a thought without thinking, lol

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

There isn't another HH UMX plane that will work for this. The UMX CC has the right number of channels, but you can't use the same channel for two features :) Also, the Carbon Cub had integral servos, if I recall, IE you'll have a larger, heavier PCB to fit in an already tight space. I don't think you could do it without figuring a way around SAFE, as I believe you'll be controlling AUX1 for Flaps on the Carbon Cub SS UMX. What needs to happen - Horizon Hobby needs to leave a SPARE channel, and fix the TWO channel pseudo "lock down" created by the SAFE channel. When AUX 1 isn't at -100% SAFE will not actuate, thus tying up TWO channels! With SAFE Select, you should be able to control on/off from ONE channel, but there isn't a way to bind SAFE controls to a different channel on UMX's (that I've figured out). There's a way to do it, but Horizon Hobby has made an awesome plane here, and we get to reverse engineer out these "bugs" that get in our way of full enjoyment. It's unfortunate, but I can't do any better myself, for the moment ;) P.S. Please do share when you figure out a work around. Not just an idea - actually do it. It's a lot harder to get it to work, that it seems ;)

@trashboat8530 4 года назад

it seems you have a good understanding of safe. ironically it’s cost me two planes. i really just hate safe and never want another plane with it. my question is what went wrong so that you could not turn it off in flight as i have had the same issue

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

AUX1 needs to be -100 position. You'll have to watch the whole video to get the full explanation. I DO talk about it in some detail, It's about half way through, or so. Also, I get your frustration about SAFE, but what I can tell you...back before SAFE, it was so much harder to learn to fly...double edged sward, right???

@chrispayne2269 3 года назад

I've never liked safe either until today I was flying 4th flight on my UMX in the clouds bright snow bright sky and I lost sight of the wings I couldn't tell if I was upside-down right-side up so I hid safe. Pretty sure it would have gone in if I didn't have safe I lost orientation completely

@jasoncurrie1979 2 года назад

Hey Brian, how do you fly this on a 2s, when it's made for a 3s. I'm wanting to fly slower and I heard 2s flys super stable. Plz help

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

I put a 2S in the plane and fly.

@jasoncurrie1979 2 года назад

@@BrianPhillipsRC okay was it better at slow flight with 2s I'm not wanting to go as slow as a Cessna skyline but something in the speed range like maybe the t28 Trojan would that be feasible because I fly my Trojan okay and I don't crash

@thatgvb 3 года назад

Hey Bri, I'm a new UMX Citation owner. Wondering if a flaperon setup could work out of the box, while the ailerons are connected in parallel to the same port? (DX9) Thx, love the channel :)

@BrianPhillipsRC 3 года назад

Thanks, but nope....you don't have a channel for it, sorry

@thatgvb 3 года назад

@@BrianPhillipsRC Oh well, can't wait to maiden this beauty. I'm already dreaming of a 1.2M version with flaps and retracts!

@curtrice5730 4 года назад

Hey, Brian it occures to me that if you had a donor umx with 5 channels + safe you could "possibly" fly Citation & regain rudder with stock settings on frankenstiened reciever. Maybe umx Timber? Maybe? your insight Sir

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

I know for a fact how to do it, but I don't want to add the second Rx - See my Cessna 182 UMX Flaps mod series to see what I did :) ru-vid.com/group/PLXTH0DstRDc6EqH0BY0pUphn1Gq4jn3Sx The Cessna 182 was a frustrating experience, but I learned so much!!! It's really cool too, if you haven't seen it yet :)

@chrispayne2269 3 года назад

I just got mine the other daymine doesn't tip stall or tip or anyting I come down in a glide with no power and almost stops before it touches the ground

@BrianPhillipsRC 3 года назад

Cool!

@josephfreeman5289 3 года назад

i am surprised this board on the umx does not have a 5th channel output like the timber or carbon cub

@BrianPhillipsRC 3 года назад

I totally agree, but here we are ;( SAFE has is drawbacks. One of them is the fact that Horizon Hobby wants to make the planes fly with their lower channel count Transmitters, THUS, we lose access to these channels as they get locked in for SAFE controls. When I was learning to fly, I would have LOVED having SAFE on these planes, but now that I don't need SAFE, it does come at a cost...and the cost is that these lower assigned channels, that happen to be tied to the physical channels...are being consumed for SAFE :(...

@MALNTV 4 года назад

You need a receiver with more channels to put retracts on.

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

yeah, unless you want them to be tied with another function ;(

@muhammadN97 4 года назад

Noice Brian

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Thanks!

@PhilBender612 3 года назад

I would love this plane way more with flaps......what about the turbo Timber UMX receiver .......swap it out for one of them.🤔

@BrianPhillipsRC 3 года назад

No, ESC's for the Dual EDF's wouldn't work.... gotta watch how I did it. I kinda leave no stone unturned ;)

@glenbattye4699 4 года назад

Hi Brian. I would really like to hear your views on the Carbon cub s+ vs. The Apprentice.

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Well, first of all, full disclosure, I HAVE the Apprentice 1.5m, and love it. I don't have the Carbon Cub S+ BUT I've flown it. Thoughts - Apprentice is AWESOME, but be careful you've got it on the wheels when you flip the power switch, or you'll be picking up the pieces off your neighbors roof (LOL - ask me why I know - LOL), as for the Carbon Cub S+...it's awesome, but needs to be way easier to get going for a beginner. The plane is EASY to fly, but it's HARD to setup. The GPS Plus initiation is totally ridiculous. If you can successfully get it flying, which is tough in and of itself, even with years of experience in a steep learning curve hobby, it'll about make you crap you pants the first time you hit the arbitrary GEO Fence!!! This feature has gotta be the stupidest and most error prone feature ever stuffed into a beginner plane second only to the "horizon sensors" that predated SAFE, and didn't work - LOL. I understand the feature conceptually, and as a beginner I would have be TRICKED into thinking it's the cat's meow, when really it'll just freak you out as a beginner, and get you totally and utterly disoriented at the worst possible time...if they wanted it to work, they would have had to set the geofence to way larger, like 2000 feet, or 1000 feet....as it stands, I believe it's 500 feet - not enough room! Now that I've spend a paragraph beating up the expensive feature...it flies like a dream, and it's a beauty! WHY does it NOT have flaps?!?! Both planes, I could make the same argument...but the apprentice doesn't NEED them, and comes with a spare channel (I THINK the Carbon Cub S+ does too, but I can't confirm that). Maybe I need to get a Carbon Cub S+ to show how to run it....but I might lose interest and send the GPS up with a firework ;) Hope this helps! Good luck Glen!

@glenbattye4699 4 года назад

Brian Phillips Thanks for the quick response on the Carbon Cub S3 vs. The Apprentice. Let me take this a step further. I’m an intermediate flier who hasn’t flown for the last 3 years and wants to get back into it,, I own 3 planes that (if I’m being honest) are probably above my experience level and I want to get them sold and replaced with planes I can comfortably handle. I’m in a wheelchair and don’t have a lot of arm movement but relatively good hand movement. I recently purchased the Turbo Timbre which I believe I’ll be able to handle but I’d like to clean out my planes and replace them with 2 others that will be more within my experience level. I have 3 years experience and then a 3 year layoff. Can you suggest some good choices besides my Turbo Timbre. I like the look of the Beaver with floats and a good UMX. Can you give me some suggestions or thoughts.

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Can you handle the Turbo Timber well? and what size...1.5m or UMX?

@glenbattye4699 4 года назад

Brian Phillips I have the 1.5 Turbo Timber and I’m considering getting the UMX too. Would you consider it one of the best of the UMX planes.

@chrispayne2269 3 года назад

Move your battery just a hair for word and it won't tip stall on you.

@BrianPhillipsRC 3 года назад

Okay

@CaptainJohn 4 года назад

Flapys!

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

yes ;)

@geraldf4193 3 года назад

Brian how hard is it to fly that plane. Do u fly professionally real planes or helicopters!!!

@BrianPhillipsRC 3 года назад

I'm not a full scale pilot. I do own a real plane, but it's not legal to fly at the moment.

@erikskanes5552 4 года назад

Maybe I miss it. Why did1n't you add a second rx?

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

I can't find one that gets up that high (gotta be to channel 7 or 8)....so it gets hard to find one that's small enough, even after stripping it down, like I did in the Cessna 182 UMX.

@shelbyseelbach9568 4 года назад

Ya, that's not how a second receiver would work. Would just give duplicates of existing channels.

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Yes, but you can add above the range. I've done it before with some success...BUT hard to find an 8+ Channel Rx that's really small. I can find Serial Rx'es but they don't have any way fro me to break out the channel I need to attach the would-be flap channel.

@shelbyseelbach9568 4 года назад

@@BrianPhillipsRC If you added an 8 channel Rx, you wouldn't need two receivers. So that doesn't really apply to the question that was being asked, if I understood the intent of the question.

@someone.7303 3 года назад

Why the flaps go down, they seem to rub on the wheel

@BrianPhillipsRC 3 года назад

They are CLOSE, but not quite. These flaps make this plane fly sooooo slow without stalling!

@grumpyjohntxredneckrc6346 4 года назад

Nice Flights, Butt You Need To Work On Them Landings... LOL Thanks Ohhh 15:15 HaHaHaHa I'm Sending You A Small Lump Of Coal For Xmas...

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

LOL - Thanks - You are pretty grumpy; I keep saying that when I mention the wind sock - LOL... I noticed you changed your name (now includes "TX Redneck RC")?!?! I don't think you're trying to get away from any ex wives!?!?! ;)

@grumpyjohntxredneckrc6346 4 года назад

It's Always Been That Name!!! LOL

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

For real?!?! I always just notice Grumpy John - WOW - that's crazy!

@MikeSarni 3 года назад

The reason why I wouldn't turn safe off is because you probably had to assign a switch after you bound it ???

@BrianPhillipsRC 3 года назад

No, this is a technical issue. There's another channel that interferes. I eventually found out why, if you watch the whole video. Weird and unexpected issue - I actually heard about it since I early released this plane and spoke with HH about this concern. The plane flies AWESOME with flaps too!!! I wish HH would start doing flaps on all these planes. Really no reason NOT to do them...well money - LOL ;)

@MikeSarni 3 года назад

@@BrianPhillipsRC thats cool, hey it flew awesome with flaps👍👍

@jasoncurrie475 2 года назад

Brian this plane is the biggest POS it has a major design flaw is there any way I can get around these damn linear servos is it possible???? And if it is can you please tell me what I need to buy to do it

@jasoncurrie475 2 года назад

1 1/2 Weeks later mine linear servo will not steer the front wheel and the one on the back is out too it won't steer the rudder and that's kind of bad for $180 just for a week and a half this is a bad purchase

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Talk to Horizon Hobby about this. I've had these things go bad before, and it's very annoying. I've tried reducing the SERVO RANGE from +/-100% to +/- 95% to help reduce some of these issues,and it does help. Flight performance decrease is very minimal, if even distinguishable. As for the one that's "Dead" (Rudder / Nose Gear Servo) - have you checked to see if the gears are just bound? How about does it move any? Is the motor HOT? There's a few ways they fail, and I've had them all...bound up...over headed...debris on the feedback surface...motor wired broken...or controller failure...the latter being the least common. Dig in and see if you can learn what's going it. I HATE having to fix these things, but I do it too.

@jasoncurrie475 2 года назад

Ôoooo

@jasoncurrie475 2 года назад

@adventures3699 4 года назад

I sent them an email!!

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Thanks! This plane is awesome stock, but all these GA planes need flaps :)

@jimsoyak90 Год назад

I can't beleave this is dicontinued already.😕

@enzok6414 3 года назад

I'd pay 250 for every UMX plane that comes with a flap. Mig 15, Cessna 182, B25, B17, and A10 should all have flaps and SAFE.

@BrianPhillipsRC 3 года назад

I think they should have flaps and LED's too...but I guess I'm just a weirdo ;) LOL

@adventures3699 4 года назад

I agree flaps and lights are amust !!! Tell Horizon man!! Please!!!!!!!!

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

I want you to do it. I'm already doing it!!! :)

@Stafernisy 4 года назад

A little jank but you did it lol

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Yes, exactly - a little janky, but I LOVE the way it flies now. It flew GREAT stock, but with this mod makes her viable in such small flying fields!!!

@skeeterhoney 4 года назад

I was wondering why you couldn't just use another channel, then almost 10 min in I see that they deactivated the other channels... Why the hell do they do that?

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

AMEN!!!!!!!! WHY!!!

@Doggeslife 4 года назад

Many of the receiver bricks I pull from planes are not programmable. I have a 6 channel board for a Super Cub S with SAFE mode, but no way to activate channels 5 and 6. A different receiver brick may be called for here. I use channel 6 to operate 1S-3S brushless ESCs with 1S brushed receiver bricks (AS6410L) via mixing throttle/ch6 channels in my TX, so that leaves ch 5 open for flaps with tail, elevator and aileron servos intact. A Y-cable can run both aileron servos via the Ch2 port.

@curtrice5730 4 года назад

@@Doggeslife I thought channel 5 in a safe rx was used (programed with safe) and channel 6 was for flaps. In a rx preprogramed by HorizonHobby no flaps no useable channel 6 bad choice MAYBE by horizon Hobby. Unfortuntely I have lots of crashed planes. I have put safe rx in 4 planes all have accepted the donors I make sure I start with donors with same surfaces to control. Then if there is a wonky oscillation I adjust mechanically or in transmitter adjustments. I know ther is many ways to skin a cat. And it all matters which path works for you. I certainly don't know all I need to know. In fact disregard all I've said HA!

@everettbruckerhoff6029 4 года назад

it's really stupid

@jasoncurrie475 2 года назад

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@secretagb 4 года назад

As much as I like watching your vids sometimes, your audio is terrible! Please try to up your audio game. :) I'm cranking my volume when you're at distance, then turning it way down when you get close .. rinse repeat through whole video. Cool customization!

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Sorry about that; We're working on it. Hang in there. Out of curiosity, what platform are you watching on?

@secretagb 4 года назад

@@BrianPhillipsRC A mix of PC, phone, and TV with 7.1 surround.

@brandone5366 4 года назад

Its too bad they sound so annoying ,lil a10 64 sounds nice though

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

Absolutely, worst part of this plane. Funny too, as they're okay at full throttle, but when you get that "just starting up resonance" it's just plain annoying!!! Also, all the dogs from within 10 miles come running ;) LOL!!!

@timbacchus 4 года назад

Play it Safe without Safe.

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 года назад

LOL!!! Nice ;)