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onion Gets me everytime

Yeah i was like...even though she was childless and aloy is practically her, I still thought of aloy as her daughter when she said this.

*cries*

@@MrMilkyCoco Elisabeth might not have been her biological mother . but she sure was the mother figure to Aloy.

Compassion not for Helis

Tho Aloy IS Elisabeth. Genetically speaking

@@Pauli-dg2yv genetically yeah but in their hearts it's like Miles Morales and Peter Parker. Both are Spider-Man, but Miles is a student who feels pressure and expecations like Aloy feels pressure to be like Elisabet

@@MrKomplicated You nailed it!

@@MrKomplicated Yes -- I think a strong if subtle theme of Forbidden West is Aloy's developing realization that she isn't and does not have to *be* Elisabet. That Elisabet was not perfect in all ways and, for all her virtues, never exactly learned how to let others in. Aloy by contrast now has a true family, and in the end explicitly rejects Sylens' manipulative "this is what Elisabet would have done." She's come far enough by then to say, well, I'm not her, and I choose to stay and fight.

You are very intelligent for noticing that

I guess they were really trying to show that Aloy was a clone of Elisabet

Thanks:)

Wow

I did not notice, that is so cool!! What I did notice is that, during that scene you're talking about when Aloy is six, they play a muted, strings-only reprise of this song. Which is so cool! I knew that was referencing her being just like Elizabet--I didn't realize her age and dialogue were referencing it, too! I also noticed that what Elizabet's mom tells Elizabet is very similar to the final lesson Rost teaches Aloy. Both tell their children to fight for life, not death--to protect others rather than solely pursue self-interest. So yeah, all of this--what you noticed and what I noticed--is completely intentional. I love how thoroughly they thought out this game--they made every detail count.

The game was so emotional that I almost cried so many times. The worst was when you have to watch the Elizabet Sobeck Memorial. That one really hit me incredibly hard

Same

MagicalGirl4 Sobeck's legacy still in the world :D

Sara Bennett Oh my god, realizing what Aloy was wondering in the end cutscene was so heartbreaking. It was so sad, but beautiful, but... SAD! I am so glad I played Horizon. It's so beautiful and rich. Please excuse me while I go cry where nobody will hear me. (I could leave this comment just like this but then I thought you'd think I'm trolling, had to leave a disclaimer)

they managed to find closeness despite the hundreds of years separating them - time meant nothing to their bond

thousands

Sara Bennett thousands*, 9 thousand to be exact

Danny AP actually 960 years

As much as I did love the first game, there was an air of inexperience to me throughout the game. I think Horizon 2 will be even better.

HDZ2 should be able to rival God of War

@@connorambrosino1741 i mean it was the companies first time doing this. I think them growing and learning from other game companies around and learning flaws will help. They delayed it til early 2022 I rather a delay than release with errors like FF 15 and Cyberpunk 2077.

I believe so. I think that the metal flowers you can find throughout the game were placed as tribute to Elizabet.

when collecting metal flowers, Aloy does mention that they look new and recent. So it should be Gaia who planted them.

FEW SPOILERS ---- When I played the DLC part, The Frozen Wilds, there was also a sort of system that worked just like GAIA, it was CYAN, also an IA. CYAN was captured by a Virus called HEPHAESTUS, the same one subordinated IA that was programmed in the GAIA codings, alongside HADES, MINERVA etc etc.. I remember in the official storyline that GAIA destroyed herself and with her, all the subordinated IA's were freed in the wild, that is how HEPHAESTUS got to CYAN. When you beat HEPHAESTUS, you get to talk to CYAN and can figure out with her that the metal flowers (FINALLY ARRIVED AT THE POINT) are being created by a subordinated IA just like HEPHAESTUS created machines, just that the flowers are less harmful :)

I always wondered the same thing!

The metal flowers might have been placed by DEMETER, the subordinate function (now AI) overseeing flora. Aloy comments how new they look and other comments in-game indicate they’re a new phenomena. Conversation with CYAN in the Frozen Wilds DLC seems to support this. However, I don’t doubt the triangle of flowers around Elisabet might have been a tribute from GAIA before she had to self-destruct because there aren’t any metal flowers we can see and triangles seem to be a common geometry shared by GAIA and her subfunctions.

But in a different sense, Aloy was Elisabet reborn, in a different time. The same DNA, the same mind- shaped by different circumstances of course, but after Aloy experiences the wider world, she becomes driven by the same love that drove Elisabet to work so hard to save the world as well.

Sister feels more appropriate given the circumstances.

you could also say that She was Reborn as Aloy, so as it was tho Aloy was looking at her past self.

Really late reply. I think Aloy really look up to Elisabet as a mother.

993 years exactly :,)

Tran Vinh Nhat yup.

me too

Nostalgia i guess.

Breath of the Wild is a great game though. In its field, it's almost a solid 10/10. It was an actual evenly-matched competitor for Horizon

Because it was game of the year, Horizon's story was WAY better tho

To be honest I enjoyed more the gameplay of Zelda than Horizon. After a while it becomes boring. I didn't even want to finish the last mission because I was really bored, but then I bought the DLC. Dunno why, maybe because I read the DLC is really fun or maybe I really like Aloy and her story, so it's an excuse to stay with her a little more before moving on the next game. But storywise, Horizon wins without problem against Zelda.

@@theminionshrek7946 I found the human encounters to be really boring too, but not the machine ones. Those and the story of course was what kept me going, otherwise i would've droped it like i did with BOTW and most open world games.

Horizon is not an RPG.

Erik Brandt Why isn't it?

Kadraeus Animations it is an rpg. But not to the likes of Witcher or Fallout/Skyrim where decisión matters a whole lot. It’s not that deep but it does have some of the core elements of an RPG

Same. Couldnt have said it better. An absolute masterpiece.

The only flaw of the game is that the customization options are very limited. But overall it's a great game. Can't wait for the sequel

Horizon is not an RPG

PlayStation considers it an open work RPG on their website. Even though there aren't true decision trees in the game.

Crying doesn't mean you're weak. It means you've been strong for too long. Embrace it. Also my condolences about your great grandmother.

X2

cause BOTW promoted the better open world experience

@@Pauli-dg2yv BotW is the most overrated game of all time

But dying light did it better. Parkour!

@@Pauli-dg2yv How did it provide the better open world experience again?

@@Continental_Champ Parkour

Ershad Doomunkhan because sometimes the people are hopeless :D

You gotta remember, aloy is a genetic reinstation of Elisabeth sobeck that Gaia made to help stop hades. She was needed to stop hades so that's why aloy even exists. Elisabeth sobeck describes what she would have wanted her daughter to be and Gaia made aloy that way. Aloy wanted to find out who her mother was and her curiousity brought her there. She spent her whole life wondering who her mother was. But I do agree in the sense that rost was left behind. I wanted to see him more involved in the story. Not just left behind as a side character. Aloy was never really Rost's daughter. Although he treated aloy like one, she could never be his daughter. That's the sad truth. His daughter and wife died when mothers vigil was raided. You just can't replace a kid like that. But rost did have that sympathy and care for aloy like he would have for his own daughter. Just one of the reasons why rost would let her run in the proving.

There is a cutscene showing Aloy visiting Rost's grave back at the house she grew up in. They did a marvelous job with the storyline. :)

I'd make two counterpoints as to why finding Sobeck's grave was the essential place to end the story: 1, you can (and should!) go back to Rost's grave throughout the game, and doing so reinforces her bond and how much she felt devoted to him. Rost is incredibly important to her, and she is mourning him all the while. He's why she can go the distance and face down Hades in the end. But... it might be easy to feel he's forgotten if you, well, forget to do that. And 2, put yourself more fully in her shoes. She came from a culture where your mother was everything, and she was defined from infancy as being motherless. For the Nora, you're not a whole person without that relationship, and that sense of missing a piece of herself is what drove her from childhood to the Proving, and once she saw that holo of Elisabet her need to know who that was compelled her into and through the whole story. By the end she knows the hard facts of her connection to Elisabet, but it is finding her grave and hearing her effectively claim Aloy as the daughter she never had that is the final and ultimate catharsis of Aloy's story in HZD.

Yes, this track was played when Aloy finally met her 'mother'.

William C. Sierra it makes me cry

Yaaas

A syringe was Aloy's mother. Gaia was Aloy's mother. Aloy is more Elisabet reborn.

ZeroDawnGaming you clearly doesnt know genetics, clone is Not. 1:1 like in movies.

I mean, technically Aloy is similar to Elisabet on a 98% (Or was it 97%? Can't recall it), so it's not a copy-paste. Meaning that, while is not an actual "clone", it neither was her daughter. Which relates them both... Somehow. I don't know. But I don't think it can be considered as a relative-relationship

Aloy = Elizabet junior 🤣

Elisabeth might not have been her biological mother . but she sure was the mother figure to Aloy.

Sylens once said to Aloy "You have two mothers. A dead woman and a dead machine". He said this as an insult, but I gotta agree that GAIA and Elisabet are Aloy's mothers