Listen to your gun, not what you read on the internet. For the longest time I heard how the eld-x was the premier bullet out of the 6.5 creedmoor. Turns out my tikka had a different plan!
Hornady outfitter is loaded with a far better hunting bullet for big heavy game but goats have VERY thin skin. People think goats are bulletproof and end up poking holes in them over and over. I’ve guided many and the fastest kills are with deer type bullets . The eldx is a great choice because it opens up fast . Either way …have a great time !
I agree with you 100%! Too many people use a tougher bullet and it just seems to pass through the goats. I shot mine with a Hornady SST and it dropped like a sack of potatoes
I used the 180 grain gmx from my commercial mauser 98 centurion 123 30. 06 and its a winner. Drops deer in their tracks so im sure it will take down elk and moose just as easy. I have mine set for 3 inches high at 100 yards for a 230 yards zero. Perfect round or hunting, 65 a box, abit expensive but its all worth it when that first bullet goes into a deer, elk, moose, caribou. I love hunting.
Interesting results. I get half inch groups with the precision hunter out of both my creedmoor's. I'll have to try out the outfitter round to see how it compares.
My 308 loves the Precision Hunter 178 grain. They’re super consistent loads and it shoots 1/2 MOA with them at 100-300 yards except one out of probably 20 rounds breaks out to about an inch at 100.
Didn’t see whether the rifle is threaded or not or if you have a muzzle brake, but your rifle has a considerable muzzle rise, up and to the left. Again, consistency is key with any shooting position or equipment. Consider a muzzle brake such as the Ultradyne Apollo Max or similar or just shoot it without one. You may get a bit more consistency if you preload your bipod a bit! I was successful at downing a cow elk last week with the Hornady 162 gr ELDX. One double lung shot was all I needed at 407 yards with my SAKO S20 in 7mm Rem Mag. I tested different bullets and can honestly say that a rifle tends to like one bullet over other weights and even brands. I trust Hornady’s brand and their 4DOF app. Hasn’t failed me yet!
I have the same gun, and mine wouldn’t shoot the factory precision hunter eldx ammo either. However, after reloading using this bullet and getting it closer to the lands, a whole different story dime size groups. All you accomplished here was seeing what COAL the gun likes.
I have a Tikka T3x tac and it shoots perfect with precision hunter. I tested with other Hornady ammo and it shoots perfect with all of them but the optic is setup with precision.
New subscriber here. Great video. I'm a little surprised at your results. But I own the exact same gun you have there. I might have to try some of that Outfitter stuff in mine. I shoot the Norma Bondstrike 143 gainers out of mine about 1/2 inch 3 shot groups. Very happy with the gun!!
It looks like to me, esp when compared to Federal ammo, that the factory velocity on Hornady is significantly slower when shot thru the same barrel. And haven't you come close to factory velocity with more Federal ammo? I am beginning to wonder if they are skimping on powder given the crazy situation with ammo since Covid began...
Good video impressive group I have a tikka t3 roughtech that grouped .23 inch with the precision hunter, other factory loads are about an inch….just got a box of the outfitter ammo and am excited to try it out !!
My t3x superlite did alright with the GMX as well 👍 only thing I would say which certainly shouldn’t make as big of grouping difference as you saw is that when switching from lead to copper bullets one always seems to act funny in my experience. I’ve heard it’s from the different hardness of the coppers in your barrel, could be false, but idk. My guns seem to agree.
How did the Outfitter ammunition perform? And at what distance did you shoot the goat? Wanting to shoot this ammunition out of my 6.5 Creedmoor for mule deer hunting! awesome review video👍🏼
Adrian Villa i shot my goat front on, exited out the rear quarter and just devastated everything inside the chest cavity. I can only image the retention of the bullet was in the upper 90% range.
Curious how the Creedmoor did on the goat, I shot my goat with a 7 LRM and with well placed shot it refused to die. They are really tough. I would think the Outfitter ammo is definitely the way to go.
they say the .22lr are picky with ammo but that will translate to all rifles actually. I run a howl 1500 6.5 creed at the moment, 18.5" barrel 1/8 twist and a 4" front mounted suppressor. best bullet is the 160gr RN from hornady but all the coppers from barnes works flawless. the same ammo you used, precision hunter coups a bit under .5 at a 100 in mine so thinking that one type is the best for all would result in no way. all guns are different and like different "food"
damn now lm not sure what to do. l just bought Bergara 14 HMR in 6.5 creedmoore and l wanted to buy precision hunter eld-x for it. l like GMX a lot but my 243winb and 308win just wont do good groups with superformance gmx. Outfiter is no so fast as superformance.
@@travisleedom2083 money no problem so far thanx god :) here is one box (20 bullets) 50-60 euro. I tested many so far and still looking for the right one. Good video btw.
@@jacobpind2239 I have both. ELD-x and Outfitter. ELD-x group is 0.5 moa, outfitter group is 2 moa. I also have Bergara B14 sporter in 6.5 creed and groups are the same.
Every rifle is different. Just because his rifle liked the outfitter doesn't mean yours will. In fact he could get the same ammo but from a different lot and it could perform quite different.
brentigo had a few issues with the camera the evening we killed my goat. But got some great footage and should be able to put something together and hopefully show the adventure!! It will drop on switchback outdoors RU-vid channel, no date in particular haha.
Good review. Just a little bit of info but don’t believe what the box tells you about velocity. Best to chronograph it yourself out of your rifle. Most factory ammo is way less than what it claims on the box. This is because they use 24” to 26” test barrels and not real world hunting barrels. Also the deviation between shots if too extreme causes wider groups. Maybe a good bullet and hand loading could produce better groups where you have more control over deviations
Thanks for comparison, great shooting too. I've been shooting 6.5 ELDX handloads, but thinking of switching to GMX (all copper) to hunt in Cali. I know this was over a year ago, but how did the GMX work for you on your hunt? Effective kill power? Thanks
I just changed to gmx bullets in my .300 win mag this year. I hand load them super accurate and damn at some penetration. Killed a big doe yesterday 275 yards solid shoulder hit massive wound channel and was a complete pass thru with a large exit hole. I know the 300 is much bigger than the 6.5 but still a deep penetrating bullet none the less. Would recommend this bullet to any hunter with any caliber.
@@joshradford1989 thanks a lot, much appreciated. Yeah anything in .300 will kick some ass! I just picked up some of the newer Hornady GMX 6.5 140 gr. Still working on load development but so far looks promising. Note they’re pretty long bullets so current loads are compressed a little in 6.5 cm cases. Too bad not a whole lot of load data yet for these newer GMXs. My buddy’s 6.5 PRC is extremely potent too with a little lighter recoil than the comparable long actions.
Looks like you punched those holes with a screwdriver 🪛 lol jks great video you know what I'm shooting this November. Awesome set u as well cool video 👍🏾
You switch to a bipod at 200 , I always shoot like iam hunting . The edl might have done better off the bag at 200 . Interesting video cause I ordered 2 boxes of outfitter two days ago .
i have bergara b 14 hmr 24" barrel an b 14 sport 20" barrel. outfitter doesnt make good groups out of ich. precision hunter does very good group under 0.5 inch/100m
You might ditch the 9 inch bipod and use a bag as a front support and tuck your support hand under the rear of the stock, your position although may be steady looking through the scope probably doesn’t offer good follow though. You may get get results out of the eld x by building a better position and getting rid of the bipod, however your groups were pretty decent with the other ammo so maybe it just doesn’t like it, my Tikka hammers with the eldx
Just because your gun doesn’t shoot the ELD-X well does not make it a bad round!!! I shoot 1/4 in groups at 100 with my Griffin & Howe Highlander and consistently ring the 12 inch iron plate at 500.
when you showed that ELD at 100 yds I was like "wow you are a really bad shot" until you showed the GMX and I seriously bet you've won competition shootings. Those are insane groups! (dont let these old asses talk you down sayin "oh ya i hit half inch groups at 600 yds" bunch of bs)
i guess if he wanted to shoot the eldx he will have to hand load and find the power and charce weight i here they dont like to go to fast i just picked up the same gun for my kid have to get rings and a scope then i will try the 143eldx thats the bullet i would like to shoot
I actually shot my goat front on through the chest, exited the rear ham. So definitely had some penetration!! It didn’t take one step either so I would say job well done.
unfortunately you are restricted to the powder, primer and over all length of the factory ammo. if you where to load this bullet using different components and O.A.L, id bet you could find a combo that would shoot well at targets. for hunting.... I play it differently... I call it "hunting accuracy". I will not shoot past a give range, to develop that range I use the ballistics numbers from the chrono. 400 yards is my personal limit. if I can hit a 6" circle at max range and the 1800ft.lbs (for elk) are there, I am happy. At 100 yds. It will print around 1" or slightly over. the limits are lifted when you load your own, I would encourage you to learn from a vet re-loader if you have no experience. but the point is that the bullet is probably not the issue. if you are dead set on shooting a given bullet, factory ammo will limit your abilities from gun to gun
Last time I checked 1.5moa would bag your deer every time inside of ethical hunting distances. Even O'Conner and Whelen agreed that anything under 2-2.5" at 100 yards was perfectly acceptable and sufficiently accurate.
