Hotone Binary CAB Speaker Simulator Pedal Demo & Review - Impulse Responses in a Pedal?!?

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Hotone Binary CAB Guitar Speaker Simulator Pedal Demo & Review - Impulse Responses in a Pedal?!?
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What's going on everybody?!? SeanPierceJohnson here and today we're going to take a look at the Binary CAB pedal by Hotone. The Binary CAB is a massively flexible guitar speaker simulator in a compact pedal platform. 100 available guitar cab models, 8 microphone models, and emulations of power amps, recording rooms and more!
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@landoncore92 5 лет назад

Awesome demo man. This is everything I needed to see about this pedal! I play ridiculous heavy stuff on an 8 string but I really felt the tweakability of this and you sold me on it. Also that metalzone tone was quite good, it's not a bad preamp at all!

@myembereffect 3 года назад

I run this through my effects loop on my 11R right after the amp and bypass the internal cab. It sounds amazing through a PA.

@noworries12 3 года назад

the most "under the radar" IR pedal...I wonder why you don't find many reviews/infos, compared to NUX,Mooer etc ...so, thanks Sean for this vid....bought it yesterday: this is a treasure box!

@SeanPierceJohnson 3 года назад

glad you're digging it! it is quite feature rich.

@truenorthpedals1085 5 лет назад

Great stuff Sean! I've been looking at pedal platform IR lately, as where I play live prefers us going direct. I don't want to go with stuff like the Helix or Axefx because I like my pedals. So these are a great alternative and a lot more affordable. I had not heard of the Hotone cab yet. Thanks

@SeanPierceJohnson 5 лет назад

Glad I could help Sheldon! This would probably by great as you’d be able to find a cab model that would suit your Tweed pedal well 👍

@elwynsmiles 5 лет назад

Hi Sean...you can use the little soft key bank up/down to change location that you want to save patch 😎

@SeanPierceJohnson 5 лет назад

Hey Elwyn, unfortunately I tried that and it completely erased all the work I had done. Perhaps a glitch? I don’t know but sadly it didn’t work. So I just went to the bank I wanted to save to first and then made my preset.

@criaturafiestas Год назад

i Like iT

@MojoPenguin 5 лет назад

Cool 👍

@SeanPierceJohnson 5 лет назад

Thanks a bunch 🍻 Hope you’ll Subscribe and hang out more.

@grahamcharlton9704 4 года назад

Excellent review, Sean - thank you. I want to buy one of these. Would I put guitar into a drive pedal FIRST and then out to the Hotone and then out from Hotone to my VOX amp? Where would a BOSS GE7 eq pedal go? Thanks.

@SeanPierceJohnson 3 года назад

I'd recommend placing the GE-7 BEFORE the Hotone...but the problem is that the outputs on the Hotone have the speaker simulation on them and there's no THRU or DRY output. this will cause some phasing issues with the speaker in your VOX amp. If you still want to plug into your amp I recommend the NUX Solid Studio of the ENGL Cab Loader

@pebberbrown 4 года назад

Are there any of these cab simulator devices that you know of that would be good for clean Hollowbody jazz guitar sound? Running direct is not pleasant. Thanks

@SeanPierceJohnson 4 года назад

Hi Pebber, Most of the cab sim devices have cabs that would work well with clean guitar like Twins, Bassmen, Supers, heck even the Voxes if you're it it. I think the trick with jazz guitar is pairing it with a good preamp that can stay clean but still has some "vibe" and life to it. I don't know if you've checked out the Neunaber Neuron at all but I quite like it's clean tones. It's a digital preamp with a built in compressor and lots of extra features that make tone shaping really easy and quick. I do have a demo on the channel but there's quite a bit of distortion playing in it so it may not highlight it for your needs. But I like it and think it's worth a try. Having said that, there's a lot of great preamps on the market that you can use. You may want to check out Shift Line and their TWIN preamp. It has a tube inside and it does well as a clean platform. They have some videos out there so check those out. Hope all that was helpful! Thanks for tuning in

@pebberbrown 4 года назад

@@SeanPierceJohnson Thanks for the elaborate answer! I am using a Boss GT-1 with the "MIld Jazz" patch direct through a Yamaha MG8X mixer into a Focusriyte Scarlett 2i2 into an IMac 27" i7 4.0ghz with 48GB ram and a 2TB Fusion drive. The GT1- and Yamaha mixer setup are "ok" but doesnt have. a lot of depth or naturalness to it. I was thinking a cab simulator would help so I ordered this Hotone after seeing your excellent video. It will supposedly get here in a few days soIll let you know if it sounds bitchen. Thanks.

@alrangelal 4 года назад

Hi Sean, I don't know if you will see this, but I was wondering... My pedal chain ends with a Ditto Stereo (I run my whole pedalboard in mono) could I use one stereo output to go to the amp and the other to go into the CAB which then would go to an interface or a PA? Thanks to anyone who may answer to my question

@SeanPierceJohnson 4 года назад

Alejandro Rangel hey Alejandro, the set up you’re describing would probably work. Since you’re running mono into the Ditto the output will just essentially be “Dual Mono” since you’re not using anything like a stereo delay or reverb. I can’t 100% say with certainty it WILL work but the based on my research, it SHOULD work.

@Gummmibaer 5 лет назад

Cool demo Sean! Can you load 3rd party IRs? Is there any small preamp pedal you can recommend (the Carvin is too big for my small home recording board)?

@SeanPierceJohnson 5 лет назад

Hey buddy! 1. Yes, you can load 3rd party IRs. I don’t have any and haven’t made any of my own so I didn’t mention that in the video. 2. Small preamps? Well I like the Massive Unity TAE stuff. There’s the Dirty Boy that I denied recently as well as a AC30 style preamp as well. The mini Mooer preamps are alright but some are not that good. I plan on seeking out quite a few things in the preamp category within the new year. Stay tuned! Glad you enjoyed the video and I hope you’ll consider subscribing! 🤘

@Gummmibaer 5 лет назад

@@SeanPierceJohnson Thanks for your reply! The Massive Unity Dirty Boy Preamp sounds great, but is a bit too gainy for me. I need more of a clean pedal platform preamp pedal (a CPPPP haha what a word...). Well, looking forward to your preamp demos in the future. Best wishes from Germany.

@SeanPierceJohnson 5 лет назад

@@Gummmibaer i hear you man. unfortunately good CPPPPs (haha) just aren't as abundant. I know Quilter makes some "pedalboard amps" but I have not tried any of them long enough to say whether they're any good or not. Good luck on the tone journey!

@Smurf431 5 лет назад

Hey Sean, I am EXTREMELY happy with my set of Joyo preamp pedals (California, AC Tone, American and British Sound) into a Tomes Line Shaper, but the last few months I have been looking at the Mooer Radar. But after your very cool vid I just ordered this pedal, mainly because I can load my own IR's and for my BD I received the Own Hammer collection...VERY nice!

@SeanPierceJohnson 5 лет назад

Smurf431 that’s awesome man! Glad this video could help you out. You’ll enjoy this. It’s VERY flexible and a fine pedal.

@JoseCarlos-rw6xv 3 года назад

Hi, Sean. Did you ever use a Hotone Omni Ir Loader? If yes can you tell wich one is better? Thanks

@SeanPierceJohnson 3 года назад

Hi Jose! I have no tried the Omni, sorry. So I’m afraid I couldn’t tel you which is better.

@mattgilbert7347 4 года назад

I have the Binary AMP, it's pretty decent. I run into a NU>X Solid Studio (cab em *off* on the AMP) and you can get some okay tones. I'd like to try it with this CAB or a Digitech CabDryVR. Struggling to get a satisfying DI tone. The NU>X on its own or the CAB with a preamp pedal may be my best option. I need a good DI box to balance my input/output, I think that may be part of the problem. My clean tone is almost inaudible then *bam* the gain kicks in. I really hate DI but at, there's no other way. The project I'm playing for isn't mine and he won't allow amps, becuase we're in the city.

@SeanPierceJohnson 4 года назад

yeah, a good preamp should help A LOT. DI guitar just with a cab sim doesn't cut it

@mattgilbert7347 4 года назад

@@SeanPierceJohnson The AMP does both preamp and power amp BUT I think the CAB is better. I've got 3 Mooer Micro Preamps that kick ass, so I think that's my solution. Mooer+Binary CAB I do love the Digitech CabDryVR for its simplicity and multiple cabs in dual (ie: stereo!) configuration. The Joyo "Sound" series are damn fine value for money preamps as well.

@harleymcphee2369 4 года назад

@@mattgilbert7347 Hi Matt. Did you end up getting the binary cab? If so how do you like it with the mooer preamp pedals as that’s the setup I’m looking at. Thanks bud.

@mattgilbert7347 3 года назад

@@harleymcphee2369 No but I am still considering it. I did score a GFI Cabzeus Stereo on the used market and it's a BEAST. If I'm not using the Mooer UK Gold 002 (the best of those) I still use the AMP. AMP+GFI or: Mooer+NUX. Have you heard of the Humboldt Simplifier? It might be the all-in-one DI solution to rival the Strymon Iridium (overpriced imo). And the Simplifier is analog! No latency. However...the CAB is *so* versatile. It's half the price of the Simplifier.

@mattgilbert7347 3 года назад

@@harleymcphee2369 The Mooer UK Gold would be a great match for the CAB imo. Works like gangbusters with the NUX.

@gabrielveiber5307 5 лет назад

Hi Mr Johnson,Very cool demo, but I was expecting you to use the Hotone Binary cab with the Carvin VLD1...Could you do us a little video review of the two piece of gear use in conjunction?Thank you very much in advance.Best regards

@SeanPierceJohnson 5 лет назад

Hi Gabriel, I actually recorded a portion of the Legacy cab sim on this with the VLD1 but wasn’t terribly thrilled with the final product. I wouldn’t mind doing the video but I just don’t have the time to devote to doing a video for just that sample. If I did, I’d probably make it a part of a series showing off ALL the cabs on this pedal. Stay tuned.

@gabrielveiber5307 5 лет назад

Thank you for your quick answer Mr Johnson. I was only interested by the use of the two pieces of gear together (not only by the Legacy cab sim included in the Hotone Binary °Cab°) to see the potential of the Hotone in use with the VLD1. Thank a lot for your videos that are very well done and informative Best regards@@SeanPierceJohnson

@kingstumble 5 лет назад

Could this be used in front of say, a bog standard combo amp, i.e. treating it in effect as a stomp box just to get some tonal variations out of the amp?

@SeanPierceJohnson 5 лет назад

I wouldn’t recommend doing that. This isn’t a preamp/distortion pedal. This is meant to simulate the way a guitar speaker would sound. When you run them into non-FRFR (Full Range, Flat Response) speakers you’ll encounter unwanted phasing problems (at least in my experience. The tone feels and sounds quiet hollow if this is run into an amplifier. Sadly this one doesn’t have a THRU output so you can’t run the THRU to an amp and send the Main Output to the Front of House.

@kingstumble 5 лет назад

Thanks for the reply Sean. Looks like I'll be saving my money then!

@DavidMorisset 4 года назад

I use it to kill the noise or buck the hum on my tele, with a Mesa DC3

@stuartgodfrey5000 4 года назад

Do you -need- a preamp with this sort of thing? Just looking to use it for a quiet practice alternative using the aux in and headphones. I would be running my whole pedalboard into it and I have a Timmy that is "always on".

@Micah_s 4 года назад

Yes. You should get a preamp. The cab pedal is just the digital power amp section. Not the "pre-amp" section. The Timmy is not really a preamp. The difference between a preamp and a drive pedal is that when a drive pedal's gain is turned up, the circuit inside dirties up as well. With a preamp, when the gain is turned up on that, it is driving your amp, or whatever you are plugged into, but the circuit stays clean. And preamps usually have a three-band EQ. So I would get a preamp. I recommend the preamps from Mooer. They have some good options.

@bm6244 4 года назад

Can I put that Hotone in the end of the effect's chain after tuner, wah, distortion and then put it to the amp?

@SeanPierceJohnson 4 года назад

NO...the Binary does not have a THRU output of DRY output. You'll be sending a speaker simulated signal into your amp and playing it back through guitar speakers. This could potential cause phasing issues which make it difficult to record and to have your tone cut through a full mix. This is purely a direct recording/playing solution. No amp needed.

@DavidMorisset 4 года назад

SeanPierceJohnson it has a bypass that works without affecting the Pedal.

@SeanPierceJohnson 4 года назад

@@DavidMorisset yes it has a bypass that won't affect the pedals and you can go to an amp...but then you don't have a speaker simulation for front of house...which kind of defeats the purpose of having it on your board

@DavidMorisset 4 года назад

SeanPierceJohnson I used it when my amp went out, or for practice, it’s also great for muting, and cleaning up a 60 Cycle Hum. Just saying. You review was great. You gained a subscriber. 😎

@SeanPierceJohnson 4 года назад

Mario Brala Hey Mario! No noticeable latency with mine. I mainly used it through my Studio monitors but did check out the headphone out once. Shouldn’t be a problem.

@alexanderfernandez1245 2 года назад

hola a todos, cuantos puntos de muestreo soporta 512,1024,2048?

@mtozzi92 4 года назад

Is there a way to adjust the gain/saturation on the power amp setting?

@SeanPierceJohnson 4 года назад

mtozzi92 no there isn’t

@mtozzi92 4 года назад

@@SeanPierceJohnson ah unfortunate, thanks for the info and review!

@Locoandchooch 4 года назад

I just bought one of these. Did yours come with a power supply?

@pastorkev777 5 лет назад

Do you like this or the Nux Solid Studio better?

@SeanPierceJohnson 5 лет назад

honestly I've been using the NUX more since it has a THRU output to send to an Amp and an XLR Direct Output to send to my interface. You can also put the NUX between your amp head and speaker cab. The I/O on the NUX is more suited to my needs.

@mattgilbert7347 4 года назад

@@SeanPierceJohnson Yeah...but I think the CAB sounds better for straight-up DI, no amp. If you need I/O, yes. NUX is better.

@matthesson5618 4 года назад

Do you need their binary amp pedal as well?

@SeanPierceJohnson 4 года назад

Nope. I didn’t use any other Hotone pedal in this video other than the Binary CAB.

@fredparker3384 3 года назад

Can I use this with a Bass??

@SeanPierceJohnson 3 года назад

Sure, you just have to find a cab you like the sound of and have a good preamp pedal to use

@ActionlessLoveless 3 года назад

how many ms is the latency?

@SeanPierceJohnson 3 года назад

i'm not sure. i didn't look it up because the latency present was not glaringly obvious nor did it effect my overall experience.

@Burkhimself 3 года назад

Would’ve like to see you A/B this with a real cab and mic......

@SeanPierceJohnson 3 года назад

It would’ve been fun but seeing as I only own one of the MANY cabs profiled in this pedal and maybe 3 of the microphones, it wouldn’t have proven much about this pedal in my eyes. Ever cab sim pedal is gonna get 80-90% close to the sound of a real cab. The key is how they respond and make you feel while you play.

@ivanphoto44 2 года назад

I got one but the output level drops tremendously and all of the differentcas sound as if I have a blanket over them, muffled. When bypassing the pedal everything is back loud and bright. Maybe a got a lemon... great video though!!

@SeanPierceJohnson 2 года назад

Hey Ivan! First off, thanks so much for watching. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Let's see if we can dissect the problem here. One question: are you using the Binary CAB to go direct ONLY or are you running it into an amp as well? You aren't the first person to express that the Binary sounds "muffled". If you're running it into an amp, you're most likely hearing a phase cancellation between the speakers in your amp and the speaker sims in the Binary CAB. Phase cancellation can indeed lead to a perceived drop in volume. It can also make things sound muffled.

@ivanphoto44 2 года назад

@@SeanPierceJohnson Now that sounds pretty much like what the situation is. Thanks so much. So essentially (and for simple testing purposes), I plug my guitar into the Binary AMP, then out into the the Binary CAB and into one of my mixer channels. The headphone out of the mixer goes into a Synthtrom Deluge where I do all kinds of fun loopy things. On the Binary AMP, I do turn off the Cab on the top right button so I can use the Binary CAB as my only cab sim. If I bypass the Bin CAB, I get a loud, clear, and crisp (and ugly) sound from the AMP with a cab, then when I engage the Binary AMP, that drops in half, with very little high end info, just all quiet, bassy and muffled). Oh and I am hearing everything on headphones. Trying to find out where the phase cancellation may be taking place. Thanks a million!

@SeanPierceJohnson 2 года назад

The phase cancellation would only be happening if you were running ANY of the speaker simulation into a guitar amp/speaker cab. But since tryout setup is entirely DI, I’m guessing that’s not happening. I’m not familiar with your looper but I’m wondering if using the headphone out to feed the looper is POSSIBLY and issue. The reason I say this is because you’re running guitar into a looper but then how are you hearing playback? Is it all through headphones out of the looper? I think first you need to isolate you guitar sound and make sure that’s working. Basically: just hook up the Binary AMP & CAB together, turn OFF the Binary AMP speaker simulator, use the Binary CAB for all speaker sim and monitor THAT through headphones directly. Don’t use the mixer. Keep me posted. WE’RE GONNA FIGURE THIS OUT OR FIND YOU SOMETHING THAT WORKS!

@ivanphoto44 2 года назад

@@SeanPierceJohnson Hey Sean! So the looper (its a synth, sampler, sequencer but I use it for the looping) out goes into a compressor, then goes into a headphone amp and I listen back on headphones, all in stereo. I did do the test you suggested but I will do it again today to make sure I didn't miss anything and will keep you posted. If I remember correctly, the problem was identical. Will let you know soon! Thanks:)

@ivanphoto44 2 года назад

@@SeanPierceJohnson Ok so I just did the test again and the problem is pretty much the same. Interestingly enough, I tried the headphone out for the headphones and also the standard out with the same headphones and noticed that the levels weren't any different (I thought headphones out would be louder...). The regular out also threw the signal to one side only but that was to be expected using a stereo headphone....

@alexanderfernandez1245 2 года назад

hello everyone, how many sampling points does 512,1024,2048 support?

@SeanPierceJohnson 2 года назад

By 512, 1024, and 2048 what do these numbers represent?

@alexanderfernandez1245 2 года назад

@@SeanPierceJohnson hello friend, the amount of sampling that can be supported, for example the line6 pod go supports 1024 sampling points in the IR

@SeanPierceJohnson 2 года назад

@@alexanderfernandez1245 so are you asking how many sampling points the Binary CAB supports?

@alexanderfernandez1245 2 года назад

@@SeanPierceJohnson Yes

@cast390 4 года назад

Great demo .That LP needs a zero fret.

@SeanPierceJohnson 4 года назад

Why?

@cast390 4 года назад

@@SeanPierceJohnson When you play an open E chord its in tune but when you fret an A bar chord it sounds out of tune. A zero fret will fix that problem.

@ActionlessLoveless 3 года назад

"Dumbell" is "Randall" btw probably the person designing cab names had some experience in performing live..)

@SeanPierceJohnson 3 года назад

maybe...though i've lugged cabs far heavier than randalls. either way, it wasn't exactly a smart move.

@ActionlessLoveless 3 года назад

@@SeanPierceJohnson btw, i've just realized "Dumbell" is probably coming from "dimebag randall", not "dumb randall" :)

@SeanPierceJohnson 3 года назад

@@ActionlessLoveless still not very clear that it's supposed to be a Randall

@ActionlessLoveless 3 года назад

@@SeanPierceJohnson that's their goal :) otherwise they'll get sued or smth

@jaycesarmapula3686 5 лет назад

the only thing missing on this is a midi connection

@SeanPierceJohnson 5 лет назад

I dunno man, I think switching via MIDI would make this feel a bit overkill. Most guys have one cab they like to use and although I see it could be useful I just don't think most players are going to switch cabinets like crazy. I'd say what this is really missing is a Thru output to send to a guitar amp and a XLR/DI Output so you don't need a direct box for live use.

@Micah_s 4 года назад

@@SeanPierceJohnson Hotone has an alternative called the Omni Ir loader. It has an XLR out. But wouldn't the bypass feature on this work to go to an amp? I think so. I would like an XLR for this though... It'd be useful. I also heard you can use the headphone out to use for a stereo setup. I hope that's true

@SeanPierceJohnson 4 года назад

@@Micah_s it would work to send your signal to an amp, yes. But if you still wanted to send a speaker emulated feed to Front of House or your DAW you wouldn't get any speaker sim effect. The bypass function just turns the effect on and off.

@Neil-Aspinall 3 года назад

Shoosh city

@DJ7tringGuitar 5 лет назад

Christ on a bike..

@SeanPierceJohnson 5 лет назад

🤣🤣🤣

@ShadovvV 3 года назад

Does.Not.Chug

@SeanPierceJohnson 2 года назад

so 17:23 does NOTHING for you?

@ShadovvV 2 года назад

@@SeanPierceJohnson - Sounds really boomy and muddy. Not what I'd call a chug.

@SeanPierceJohnson 2 года назад

@@ShadovvV doesn't sound that way to my ears. might depend on what you're listening through and it will certainly depend on what gear you use. the point of this video wasn't really to show how it chugs. just what the Binary CAB can do. keep in mind, I don't play like you and you don't play like me. what you use wouldn't necessarily be what I use. those variances can mean drastic change to the resulting guitar tone.

@ShadovvV 2 года назад

@@SeanPierceJohnson - Right. I'm well rehearsed on the specifics.. thanks