House Doesn't Want to Treat This Patient | House M.D. 

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Except the first one is not It's a want more than a need

@@ashwinparthiban4561 One is emotional, the other is physical. If you are seen as just a case, a patient, not a human, then that can hurt more than the possibility of actually dying.

​@ashwinparthiban4561 actually it is a need. It's been scientifically proven there are psychological needs and that is one of them.

What about the ones who rub your willy

@@chunkyegg8472 I don't think that was what the person who commented was getting at.... House is arrogant and he genuinely does not want to treat her because he knows who he is and what he says will eventually hurt her more. Like the guy said, he's sincere. House is arrogant but he really empathizes with her and she(the girl who was abused) knew this and that's why she wanted him to treat her, because people often only acted like they empathized with her and will say things only to make her feel better, it's a good thing but people in her position don't want fake empathy even if it is directed with pure intent.

@@chunkyegg8472 people get raped every day, her situation is not special. I don't see how anyone can be so surprised by the cruel things people do.

@@malikguzman9132 …… Women don’t walk around expecting to be raped. When it happens, it is a shock. As it should be.

@@chunkyegg8472No reasonable person would believe/assume they actually thought fake empathy is worse than being raped. 🤔

@@AlastorsShadowDemon well said

She liked house for she viewed him as a wounded animal like herself.

​@@caitlyncarvalho7637 i can see why you didn't get replied to, that's one of the weirdest comments i've ever seen

Before?

​@@bmprimer7809 what was the comment

@@abhinavdp7376 i can't remember

@@abhinavdp7376 When he started glancing around right after she broke into tears.

The entire show is flooded with minor, but heavy impacting details, like this. That's why it's the best show of all time

Its mainly due to house's upbringing. He values freedom of choice and when someone physically takes your power to choose away.... he takes it seriously. Be it an abusive parent or criminal or whatever....

Of course

@@BlackBirds93 slow your roll, it isn't Letterkenny.

He has enough compassion to know he DOSN'T have enough compassion. lmao

roll a j then take one to the head...john kennedy

It's like the patient found someone who lives in constant pain that will never go away!

Well, he said it's a bad _reason,_ he didn't say it was a bad idea to trust him specifically, which would have been him joking, albeit true.

A patient's level of trust for their therapist is among the best predictors of efficacy of therapy. So trying to get help from the person you trust is actually not a terrible decision.

I thought it was odd she said she trusted him. She just met him and he was his usual self, which isn't great for developing trust. Really, she has no reason to trust him anymore than any other doctor at that point. It would be different if it were someone she'd been seeing for a while and developed a rapport with them.

Great analysis

Absolutely on point

+ maybe that she can easily outrun him carries some weight lol. P.s. its Just a joke. I really think You are right

I've had to read your post over and over again to pair my own experiences with what you have said. Absolute light bulb moment and it really explains an awful lot about my actions over the years. ❤ 💙 💜 💖

@@audreychayenne4780 You just roasted House lmao wtf

Which episode is this

@@shivd4445 Season 3 Episode 12: "One Day, One Room"

Was it hot though?

@@onlinejokesteryou will be checked on

@@onlinejokester lmao

Smart people has no problems admitting they're not the right person for the job, they know their limits and accept them.

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Definitely has nothing to do with pride, he's just smart enough to know his limits and capabilities.

@@PhotoJeticPoet i don't know about that. i have personally witness people make the situation worse and even put others in harms way trying to do things that they had no business even attempting because they're pride wouldn't let them admit that they could be wrong, didn't know how, or that someone else was better house has displayed similar tendencies throughout the shows run, which makes scenes like this when he is willing to swallow his pride very special indeed.

He's really unprofessional though

Fellas, please remember he's just a fictional character

@@bruhbruh4635 unfortunately too many "professionals" think that being patronizing is synonymous with being professional.

@@retniretep9477 pretty sure House was very patronizing to his patients

@@princecameo2453 Thanks captain obvious, no one has thought that. It doesn't mean we can't talk about it. This whole "it's fictional" so you can't have a conversation is oxymoron, why are you guys even in the comment section?

cuddy asking real question right here xD

And the fact that Hiuse basically repeated what Cuddy said

Cuddy ought to have smoke rollin' off of her.

Most people run from honesty they want lies

@@crisdlcruz145 true but given what happened to her they likely got close by pretending to be nice to her so someone who was callus, crude and brutally honest, probably seemed more trustworthy to her

She explicitly stated that she recognized pain when she looked into his eyes, so maybe there was some level of mutual empathy which caused her to choose House.

Most health workers seem to equate being patronizing with being professional so the approach shown by him here departs from the norm. We need serious reform in how health workers are trained.

I thought so too, beeing in a vulnerable state of mind, everybody trys to sugarcoat life, what happened and just deep down pitys you. They think you dont notice, but ofc you do, you can see it in their eyes and the Time they need to figure out what to say. Its refreshing to have somebody that is just honest with you and doesnt make everything about that traumatic event/ your mental illness.

That's why queen lagertha is feared 😂

She definitely could carry off serial killer.

Exactly! In Russia we used to say "Grief for two is half grief, joy for two is two joys".

Yes i think that moment he looks at her she back and he realizes what she been through the fackt that she could see him see her pain i know from experience that look that moment that is needed to heal being seen by someone who can

The reason she would talk to him and not to other people is because he wasn't treating her like she was a broken person who needed his sympathy and compassion. Sometimes that is exactly what you want after a traumatic event - to be treated just like everybody else. This is also why she wouldn't tell family or friends about what happened - she was afraid they would start to treat her differently because of what she went through. And I am sure House knows all to well from his own experiences how much it sucks to be treated that way after something traumatic which is why he refused to act that way, and she likely picked up on that.

She also knows that despite his pretentions, he will "give it to her straight" even if what he has to tell her is painful. That's the kind of doctor I like.

@@GrafMKristo Months too late. But that's a really good saying.

True but i ve seen this episode like 10 times now and the only thing that goes to my mind is what if he still lied in the end and that is the only thing that i dispised him for. Like even after everything that goes through this episode he still goes for self perservence and cynicism to not get attached. But still, there may also be a chance that he truly opened up and that would make him the most complete human being!

@@rinorkalimashi99 I believe he compromised his principles once precisely NOT to hurt her. There was regret in his voice when he said to Wilson "maybe we just hurt her, by opening the wound".

His skills as a 'listener' are off the chart, so to speak. Compassion is a little lacking, but it's almost a running gag when 2/3rds of the way through an episode, he reminds Dr. Foreman or Dr. Crikey of some tiny little detail the patient mentioned at the start of the episode leading to a diagnosis ... he stubbed his toe, she had a glass of milk.... yadda-yadda.

Encapsulates

You wrote this trying to sound like a New York Times critic

Congrats. U have acquired herpes

First he misinterpreted her reaction. He thought she was overreacting. Sarcastically he informs her it’s treatable. He didn’t connect the dots until the outburst. Sensitivity has never been his strong suit. So in the end he wasn’t hiding his intentions or trying to get her to let down her guard. Instead of being domineering or aggressive he kept his distance.

Telling them its treatable ;) which is true. Chlamydia is nbd if caught early enough

I like the philosophy and general takeaway, but this is actually the *one* type of situation that I don't think it applies. Healing does happen on its own. (Physical and psychological). It's usually good to try to actively "fix" things. Fix your job, fix your car, fix your marriage, fix your sleep schedule, fix your diet, etc. but on the rare occasions when passively "healing" is an option to improve things, it's usually a better alternative. 50 years ago, the consensus was that patients should immediately talk it out, but more recent cognitive research on PTSD shows that it's better to run with the mind's natural impulse to avoid thinking about a recent trauma. In a sense, fixating on it, is like re-living it and can stunt their recovery. Their future self will have a comparative advantage at coping with it. Of course a lot depends on the victim and circumstances. You might need details for a success police investigation, and the degree of the trauma and the strength of impulse to avoid thinking about it will be a spectrum. But here, House is only interested in "fixing" things for better or worse. Fixing things is his strength. "Healing" is boring, and being bored is his weakness. That's why he didn't want the case, and why he listened to Camron's argument instead of Foreman.

@@DerekHise Couldn't have said it better myself

@@DerekHise I agree except for the last part. It's not usually better just because the option exists. There are plenty of situations where the best thing is actively support the passive healing. What is the better way is a very specific question that varies not only with what's broken but also with the person and other circumstances

Its not completely true also because when everything changes around, the thing changes in relation to them. Like, if I do "nothing" I will turn from young to old, and i will be older compared to people who are young. Or, If I don't ever call my friend, we will not remain friends but we will become strangers because time + not doing anything will result into that. In that sense not doing anything is doing something and it does change things as well.

In short term, yes. However, in long term, no. Entropy will sap order and energy from closed systems over time. If you leave a stacked Jenga tower on a table over a decade or so, it will eventually fall over.

I hope you have find your peace 🤍

I don't agree with such actions, but i don't blame you either. Just hope you're fine

@Shelby Rupe I did the same thing. Eventually the memories came back. The PTSD reared it's ugly head when I got in an intimate relationship. I had to talk about it, but mostly... just with myself. To realize what happened wasn't okay. Some days I avoid it. Some days I break down thinking about it because something triggered a memory. But I go with my gut feeling about what feels right. If not wanting to talk about it right now will help - do that. A year, 10 years down the road, you need to tell your story? Do it. Trust yourself.

@@Jordan-me9pq It’s been about ten years since it all started, I was nine and I’ll be twenty this June. It’s still a huge part of who I am and how I grew up so I’ve talked about it with previous boyfriends but it’s not something I typically like to advertise to my friends and put out as a part of me.

It's not a part of you,,it never was and it's a memory now You're more than that even though it'll curb stomp you at every thought There's nothing to fix about you because there's nothing broken about you,go easy on yourself

@Vitor Lobão If House went into physics instead of medicine you'd bet he would have work out time-travel before his 30's

That was my first thought! "Lagertha?!"

@Vitor Lobão and he’s also foster dad to a mouse named Stuart Little.

😂

Omg! Yes it's Lagartha!

as harry used to say "Mans got to know his limitations".

Id say considering the entire episode he did pretty well being concerned about the girl, what else can you do?

Know when to hold em', know when to fold em'

He diagnosed her the way he was supposed to.....now she is being a cnut about it being raped and all... that's not really his problem....he wasn't a counsellor or a psychiatrist..... nothing was out of his league from a medical standpoint

@@VivekSharma-ux2bl re-evaluate your life and why you think its cool to call her that

Medicine is helping people with their wellbeing. In medicine we learn about social factors that affect health, poverty, access to healthcare, lifestyle changes, different cultural views of health. We also learn about child and elder abuse and domestic violence among other things. Medicine is holistic, it is attending to people's mind, body and spirit. Also, she could have acute stress disorder, or in the long term PTSD and depression. She needs a psych consult and therapy.

Mental health is medical

Yeah because the medical stuff in shows about medicine is always hard bullshit that could somethimes even kill someone so naturaly the medicine show with the smallest amount of medicine is the best one.

Mental health is part of medicine. Psychiatry is an MD course.

You may be confusing psychiatry and psychology or therapy

Thats a form of healing

No.

You should never forget the pain, you need to accept that it happened and continue moving forward with it.

@@aidanmullard8508 Υou don't just forget the pain. It's not like I forgot to buy milk. Pain makes you sad and angry. It makes you mad at yourself that you're not strong enough to overcome the problems you have.

Realest words ever spoken.

i love his character archetype sm. so much hidden depth.

It's more than the writing with Katherine Winnick. She is an exceptional actress who knows how to find the core of a character that she plays.

I agree. Exceptional actress. Very believable.

Yeah, that's not how I was raised. You are a man, it is your job to be the rock in any and every situation. Your trauma, feelings, etc, go on the back burner until everyone else is ok. Once everyone else is OK, if there is time, then you can go cry in a forest. Not second before. Oh and men don't cry. Stop being a wussy and man up. That was my lessons growing up.

nah the deep and connecting part has to do with the writing. you say the actress then start describing the parts that were written for her. So that is what you like. She as an actress isn't good imo, she always makes those victim faces that make me cringe.

@@bluenomadbruh her character is literally a victim.

I'm so sorry that happened to you and so happy you were able to find a feeling of safety again

I am sorry that happened 💜

I'm so sorry

Great work!! You keep on going strong!

You know it's not religion or Church or the Bible that makes me believe in God. It's crimes like this. What does it say about me when the only thing that keeps my belief in God alive, is that there is an ultimate punishment for people who do this kind of thing? So if you want to get technical I believe in Lucifer more than I believe in God

The writing in this episode was very well done and they dealt with the subject matter as well as they could have.

They are both damaged goods and they can relate to each other.

​​​​​@@sheilagravely5621 Insane thing to say about human beings. They relate to each other because of trauma and because they know the deep feeling of hopelessness, not only your own but the hopelessness of others towards you, after being through such a hard time and surviving it and others still reducing you to the traumatic event. Not being able to look at you fully anymore almost as if you should feel bad for surviving because now they have to deal with this reality. You calling them damaged goods(even if well intended), shows that you didn't understand it. Since both of them did survive, and do just want to be treated normal. It's about being seen as damaged "goods", after giving 100% your best and surviving and coping. It's about that. Not being seen. Like something like this does affect a person maybe even a life long, but it doesn't define the person. It's about people being scared of a reality that happened to you, and reduce you to it like being called damaged. That's why house at first kind of "runs away", but she feels save, because she sees that out of all he might be the only one courages enough, to see that you can go through SH!!T and be affected by it in your day to day life, maybe forever-but it doesn't define you. It's not house his legs that define him, even if others sometimes want to reduce him to it, but his intellect and the way he's dealing with his problems and also parts that have always been there. It does affect him but not define him. It does affect her, but not define her.

@@lolalina_ They are both damaged goods.

Agreed

I agree, but at this point in the series, I think that those two characters deal with their past traumas differently. Foreman got arrested and had issues with his brother and his way to cope was to largely ignore them and not talk about them. Cameron dealt with a dying husband and she knows that it doesn't work to just forget the pain of losing a loved one and just to focus on the happy times.

Right, because talking about how my father crucified me thinking it would summon the antichrist has done wonders for me!

As somebody who knows what it feels like, I wanted so much to punch Foreman. I usually like the character, but his method really wouldn't work in this situation.

Foreman is speaking from personal perspective. He's tried to bottle all of his past (crime, single mom, criminal brother) and deny it because he believes it's necessary in order to be successful. When in actuality almost everyone has skeletons.

Seriously. When you’re depressed sometimes the fake smiles and “It’ll be alright” doesn’t work. House was blunt and brutally honest.

That doesn’t mean she had the right to force House to talk to her when she knew he didn’t want to. As House said all she craved was something or someone to control.

@@kibauno She didn’t? House didn’t have to talk to her. Trust me hospitals have security and they _will_ make you leave if they want to. Needing control after all control has been taken from you is a legitimate and very common trauma response.

@@kibauno wasn't a matter of a right but of a way to help a patient/victim cope and recover

@vliduu zeeb Women like this usually experianced some form of sexual abuse, or at least mental abuse, and do not know how to cope with it. It's not their fault, they need help.

U welcome

From your comment, give someone a raise for finally doing their job? Why?

What episode is this

@@Imlizzmitchell season 3 ep 12 it's in the description

Thank you for sharing.

I hope you are ok now, no one deserves to be assaulted

Stay strong ♥️

I didn't even realize that upon my rewatch but it's actually Katheryn Winnick, who plays Lagertha in Vikings

@@probitionate no, it isnt. That's Kathryn Winnick, who went in to star in Vikings. Kristen Glass was in a different episode.

I refuse to believe that Lagertha could ever be raped in this alternate universe.

Kathryn is great and gorgeous

It’s fucked up to need support from someone you trust? Huh?

@@DeathnoteBB dont put words in my mouth or intentionally misconstrue what im saying for the sake of your argument against it. basic reading comprehension should let you know i meant its fucked up for something so bad to happen to someone that they latch onto a stranger as someone they trust.

@@cryofist I didn’t know what you meant, but my apologies for not wording my confusion better

for whatever reason? the reason is OBVIOUS. House saw/ deduced she was raped BEFORE anyone else and before she said anything

I mean... objectively speaking, this episode, not just for the show but in general for the whole industry, this episode is absolutely one of the episodes of all time. No doubt.

Why? Who is this?

@@shhhl4975 katherine winnick, Queen Lagertha my friend

Michael B. Jordan

Even Jeremy renner

As they say, there’s a time and place for all things, much like the seasons.

So tru

For some reason this is more apparent in season 1 and then season 8. House going out of his way to watch a patient's lacrosse game... selling stocks via blackmail to let that pretty doctor vent and process her divorce.

In that case someone else got 🖤

No wonder it doesn't work. Hearts need to be made of muscle cells.

Idk about heart of good but he cares about solving the case and mystery. Which makes him a good doctor who can make the best decision to cure them. He just has a horrible bed side manner but it doesn’t make him s bar doctor.

The whole “time changes things” has always been the oversimplified explanation. The deeper meaning is that we are supposed to use the time to make changes. Not with the world, but with our own.

They should make a tv series from this RU-vid series. It'd be so good.

@@r0ver11 I'd watch that, I'd watch 8 whole seasons.

@@lindam.6782 you kinda missed the sarcasm with that one

@@lindam.6782 whooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh

@@CryptP linkify to that Amazon show then!

Thats why chase was the least favourite for house among the original trio. Like what the janitor said when house was firing him "He doesnt need anyone to tell him what he already thinks" (not the exact wording but close)

@@muratkahraman8743 it wasn't the janitor, the guy you're talking about was around when house had his interns, that guy was older and not an real doctor.

@@FatJesus15 yeah that guy was a janitor who listened real doctor's diagnosis. That was how he acquired his knowledge I think.

@@muratkahraman8743 Not quite. The guy you're thinking of was an admissions officer at a Medical College that had spent 20-ish years attending classes in his free time. He'd learned everything he knows in the same way all the other doctors did, but because he wasn't allowed into practical classes since he never formally applied, he could never actually graduate with a degree.

Everyone is wrong, than man was Bra'tac from Stargate SG1, PERIOD 😉💁‍♀️

I was a correctional officer. I was monitoring cameras one night when an underage boy was brought in for drunk driving. He was very autistic and uncontrollable, until I came down. I was the first female he had come in contact during the process and he actually would start freaking out of he couldn't see me through the holding cell door. We had to legally hold him until he was sober for his own safety. I had to go down the hall for something and one of the others started screaming my name because he had started freaking out when I wasn't there.

yes, when it came out that my uncle was abusing me i latched on so hard to the officer that interviewed me at the school- to the point i was sending him emails years afterwards thanking him for helping to investigate and ultimately putting him in prison. i wish i could see him again and thank him in person. ill never forget him. i think i grew closer to him in one interview then i ever did my own parents.

@@someidiot420 were you stalking him or what??

@@4amcripple « the good doctor is innacurate 🤡 All autists behave like neurotypicals but with super high iq»

I’ve always viewed House as someone who cares but also hates the fact that he does care. Why else would he be in this profession?

OK, an alternate title then, House Doesn't Want to Treat the Famous Shield Maiden. How's that? :D

Interesting or if they are attractive women

House says himself he does not want to treat patients but the disease

They’re plenty. He liked children and old people.

Wait what??

Hold up! So she’s the actor who played Ragnar’s wife?

Laguerta

I knew I wasn't crazy!!! I knew it was Katherine Winnick!!!

SHE BECAME VIKING WARRIOR A BADASS WOMEN

Kinda wish they were that considerate when they wrote Skin Deep

I think it's even more important in that medically there was nothing interesting about her case. Yet was the only patient he bonded with that didn't serve his curiosity.

@@gabrielcarrasco8414 What a complex, true, & interesting comment

@don pedro what's her name ?

She looks great but is a bad actress. No subtelty or range at all. In Vikings she was the one bad actor who sucked in near every scene. After S1 it got much worse. There were so many great actors in the show. Rollo, Sigi, Harald...etc

@@abhinavsharma3304 Katheryn Winnick

Should have won*

I mean, they do

@Vert2552 I take it you watched the whole episode.. Please tell me what happens between House and this Girl?

@@StalkThisBish They talk most of the episode, she insists on him being her doctor and she states that she just wants to “talk about anything”. I think they realise she’s pregnant which starts a discussion about god and getting an abortion etc. House and her exchange personal stories and the episode ends in a park with them having a really sweet conversation and he gets her to open up about what happened that day

@@StalkThisBish Amazon prime has it

Ditto.

I can't imagine anyone having a bad opinion of this episode. It's the best breakdown of House's facade and the exploration of his fundamental humanity that the show gives. It's certainly on par with Wilson's Heart for me in terms of impact and power.

That is so sad but true. It is true for those who are on the healing path too.

I dont think its true. I was with so many broken people in the last years of my rehabilitation, and they pushed each other down. Their internal problems made the living situation toxic for them and others. But they couldnt get away from it, got back into it like a moth to the flame. Continuing their self harm in many ways. Not going forward. It truthfully needed stable people to help me go on and become a bit better. And getting some distance between me and the other ones, even if I am okay with them as fellows.

It depends. There is a saying that "Those who have been hurt, hurt others." (It usually goes "Hurt people hurt people, but wordplay doesn't help here, I think...)

Definitely sounds less cynical than a paid product placement

I was in my teens when this aired on tv

why’re you acting like this show was made in the 80’s

@@charliewegner The show premiered nearly 20 years ago. That's an entire childhood into adulthood

Don't get too happy. Gen Z might try and "cancel" the show because of something stupid. 🙄

@@georgeusher7215 I still think the 80's were 20 years ago.