Yes. It’s pronounced “HAY-dree-un” and don’t even ask about the tree. It’s worse than a dying dragon I love your videos so much. Absolutely love sponging up the lore from you three.
Im sorry, Ryan, but Hadron is a super collider. Hadrian was a Roman Emperor who built a wall through the middle of Britain to keep the Celts out of the empire...
I saw that the flies eating the dragon head as another metaphor for the importance of the 'little' people in this show. An individual bug can be seen as powerless, but when they work together they can destroy what is seen as godlike.
Yeahhhhhh, I'm not sure these two experts he has on every week really understands the source material or even the changes the show made. When they talk, it's like they're watching an entirely different show
Dragons do nothing to the night king. Targeryons only exist to provide him with a dragon to destroy the ice wall. The only thing he can't do himself. I hate everything about Aegons prophecy thanks to GoT s8. None of it matters.
The entire "Daemon at Harrenhall" subplot is something they are spending way too much run time on. It was stale and boring last episode and now it's just getting annoying.
I'm surprised nobody's talking about the potential return of Laenor Velaryon. Especially since he was a rider, you'd think Rhaenyra would have tried to keep in contact with her ex husband.
Alicent giving serious Serena Joy vibes from Haindmaids Tale season 5, realizing the system she built is meant only to control and use her. And the system she overthrew is what gave her the power to do it.
The children of the forest made the night king sure, but then the Whites became their enemies. The children would absolutely be wanting the Prince who was Promised. If she’s a child of the forest, she’d be HELPING Deamon.
And actually when she leaves daemon and simon in the corridor, she goes behind simon’s back and disappears, even though the exit is to the right of simon
This she's a bit of an outsider. Being a bastard child and a witch will make others want to stay away from you. Book alys is 100% real and a thing but the shows is playing up the supernatural element.
Could be just a editing mistake. I mean you will be surprised of how many "Goofs" that can appear in a media without you seeing it. I mean i lost count of how many times that a piece of clothing or an actor wasn't in a same part compared to the previous scene.
Something weird is definitely up with Alys. The scene from this episode at around 45:00 where she was speaking to Daemon then the current Lord of Harrenhall comes in on their conversation, he looks at her very strangely then as she goes behind his back she completely disappears from frame as if shes some kind of ghost.
I've heard SO many people say this. She doesn't magically disappear. It's the angle that she is walking back at, she is then blocked(in the shot) by the focal point- Strong. She is behind him, blocked in the shot because of the angle she is walking "out" of the scene at.
@@ianthorpe1925well every shot is planned, and based on execution you’d want to see her leave. Unless they explicitly planned to make her exit eerie. So either way they did it on purpose. Just to not lead to confusion you would have a framed shot like that with her exiting not be in frame unless you deliberately wanted to mask it.
I'm guessing that Daemon is the only one that can see her. Because when Daemon was just staring at her after their conversation ends and the Lord of Harrenhall walks in with the news he looks at Daemon and there is this look on his face like "who is Daemon staring at" as he also tries to look in the direction Daemon is looking and he sees nothing. Also the way Alys walks ever so slowly and then the Lord covers her and properly masks her is brilliant..
Could it be that the Night King somehow sensed that Jon and Dany were becoming close to finally coming together as Ice and Fire, and that is what motivates their first activity in thousands of years? (approaching the wall, exposing their existence frequently). Alice Rivers forsees that Azor Ahai will be born soon and the only way to prevent it is to destroy Targaryen power from the inside by turning Daemon. That’s how Ryan’s theory could work!
It would of been cool writing, if the people who are starving, attacked the severed dragon head and started to cut out the meat. When the dude said "It's just meat"
I thought they were at least going to ask if they could eat it.. either literally.. or saying it snarky.. as in oh nice you killed a dragon but can we eat it ..we're starving.. no well then be off with you
Some things are off limits due to taboo, like cannibalism. The small folks at King's Landing are still largely loyal to Rhaenyra and Team Black, due to the poor treatment at the hands of Aegon and Team Green.
I was actually halfway expecting that to happen. Talk about a sureFIRE (ha) way to bring the dragons down a peg or two in the eyes of the small folk. Them being starving and resorting to eating the dragon meat would have tied a number of different plot points together quite nicely.
When Alicent suggested herself as Regent I instantly thought ‘What show has she been on? Does she not know everyone in that room is sexist? Does she not know about the entire conflict where she’s on the side where males inherit power before females?’
Yeah Alicent just keeps failing and choosing the wrong allies. Cristin, Larys, her sons, her dad, the whole council. Viserys and Rhyneara were probably her only trusting allies in the history of the show and she basically spat in both their faces because she was so desperate for some more semblance of power herself, through Viserys and her sons. She could have been an amazing advisor for Rhyneara but nope, she was upset she had sex... so then Alicent becomes way worse than what she hated Rhyneara for
It’s important that we remember that the show is not the “true telling” of the book. Just because something happens differently in the show doesn’t mean that the “true event. Two separate stories. The book is the book. The show is the show
Also, the greens major reason for having the houses committed to them that they have, are because they would not support a female queen. Putting Allison on the throne, even temporarily might make them lose their support that they have. And Amond is the next in line.
I think that Daemon has been asleep since he arrived. I also find it funny that no one else interacts with Alys. Maybe he is the only one who sees her, or he is (as I mentioned before) asleep this whole time.
I think they are using Alys to explore a lot of theories and lore surrounding Bran Stark in GoT that were left out of the show. She’s connected to the were trees, she’s hinted at warging and can manipulate dreams/memories, and is possibly encouraging Daemon to go mad (there’s a theory that Bran tried to manipulate King Aerys’ mind which turned him into the Mad King) so I think maybe using some unused info that was explored in book Bran’s POV to help explain some of the plot holes of TV Bran’s story. So she might be connected to the three eyed raven/children of the forest/old gods and might give a better insight and fill in some of the gaps. A bit like they’ve used the show to explain more about the song of ice and fire and its connection to the Targaryens and Starks.
She might even be aiding future Bran in some way or at least working for the three eyed raven. For example she might find out about the prophecy of the song of ice and fire and pass it on as it will be lost with Rhaenyra and Jace. Or might even become a red priestess who influences Melisandre.
@@Phbalancedshorty the theory is that Bran turned Aerys mad in a similar way that he did with Hodor. As the three eyed raven he can go back and see the past and manipulate it.
Can you check this one out. When Aegon was riding the dragon, it was his right side that was facing Aemond and Vhagar. Thus, it was that side that was burned. But when he was lying in bed, it was his left side that was burned.
The children of the forest believed the deads souls went into these trees, I'm thinking Alys Rivers is a ghost of one of the children of the forest and is now stuck in Harrenhall as a result of the trees getting cut down to build it....has anybody other than Daemon even aknowledged Alys? I'm thinking he might be the only one seeing her.
Totally off topic. But I've this questions.. Before aegon's conquest, the family lived in dragonstone for more than 100 years. Daenys and her family left valyria with balerion and 4 other dragons probably (and some eggs too I guess). They layed eggs and vhagar and meraxes were born. But that's it? 5 dragons reduced to 3 even after 2 new dragons were born? In 100+ years? And in the next 100 years, even though vhagar laid egg like once and meraxes died after laying quite a few eggs (vermithor, silverwing and dreamfyre), they had more than enough dragons and eggs that so many of them were like riderless? The numbers are quite different. 1st 100yrs dragons reduced to 3 from 5. And next 100yrs their numbers increased from 3 to 15+. Isn't that weird? Especially since the OG members who left valyria must have possessed far better knowledge about blood magic and all
How is Rhaenyra caring and concerned about the small folk? She is the one starving them with the blockade. Please make it make sense. There are no good guys in this story. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
24:36 GRRM himself recently answered this in no uncertain terms: Dragons arent "nomadic". Dragonstone was the only place Targs settled when they moved themselves out of Valyria & it's a natural habitat for the dragons, it being an active volcano -- dragons love/need hot habitats -- so the Targ Dragons equate Dragonstone with "home" & don't roam too far from the isle. GRRM said the Dragons can be housed artificially, like at the KL dragonpit, but that's also bc that's where their Dragonriders are (nearby in the Red Keep). They'll also fly farther away, but only bc their riders went there (Riverlands, Vale, Dorne, the North [except beyond the Wall], etc), but they wouldn't go there alone. Theyd always choose to return to Dragonstone or the Dragonpit. Balerion, being the ONLY Dragon originally from Valyria is the onky dragon of the Targs that decided to "fly home" to Valyria...but that didnt go so well & is a different story.
What... the children made the night king to stop the first men but it backfired, and they created something worse. They need the prince that was promised to fight the white walkers as much as anyone. Plus, I don't know that they would all know about that prophecy. She's just a spooky Harrenhal witch messing with Daemon because he's killing and stealing her people.
This episode had great moment and i appreciate the family dynamics after the dust has settled from their first dragon on dragon battle I just wish we hadn't lost so much time on daemon's witchy exposure therapy sessions.
Daemon took the egg from dreamfyre in the dragon pit at Kingslanding. He didn't find it at dragonstone. It was supposed to be Rhanerya's brothers egg which is why he took it.
It was clearly shown in Game Of Thrones (and in the books) that The children of the forest hate the night king, they even form a pact with the First men (on the ise of faces) . And later fought with the first men giant The Others in the Longest Night. The Chirldern also help built the Wall and even help the Night Watch by gifting them with Dragonglass (which btw is made by dragon fire and was known in Old Valyrian as Forzen fire)
I heard somewhere that this witch is one of the ancestors of the 3 eye raven we see in the Original GOT series. She is also wanting to stop the Night King, so she is helping them to get back on the Throne, she knows about the prophecy and knows about the battles of the future with the White Walkers and how important her family tree is. The 3 eye raven has to pass his knowledge onto Bran!!!
I thinks she’s a ghost/spirit no one else ever acknowledges her… also Sir Simon doesn’t see her and she disappears behind him whe he approaches Daemond
I love the dichotomy between Heavy Spoilers and this. Former is full of jokes, and this foo (and team), are full of conspiracies that have weight to 'em.
Heavy spoilers doesn’t make mistakes with their knowledge of background and lore. These videos are chalked full of the (for example, if Alys was a CotF, she’d be helping Deamon, not hindering him… they created the Whites but after that they regretted it so they’d absolutely want the Prince who was Promised… and that’s just one from this episode).
Wasted opportunity by the writers of the show not in the books? Showing a scene at the end of an episode where we see the carcass of a decapitated Meleys rotting where she fell. Suddenly a shadow engulfs the carcass and we see it’s the Cannibal! He swoops in to feast. We get our first look which ends with him looking right at the camera and firing a blast of fire as a warning to anyone or anything wanting to come near him
Love this! I’d only add one more detail. Meleys’ carcass is being carved up by bands of local peasants, the desperate “little folk” who suffer most in this war. We see fathers and mothers of young children slicing off strips of dragon flesh to feed their starving families, each of them overcoming the terrifying awe of this once God-like creature through nothing more than the primal drive to eat and to survive. Yet despite enough meat on the giant beast to feed half of Westeros, the peasants squabble and threaten one another, some even coming to blows that grow near deadly… Queue Cannibal’s shadow…
I think it make sense for alys river to be a ghost or some weirdwood eldritch being haunting the keep idk what it would mean for her storyline next season.
@@Darth_Mom_2 same if your going to talk on a show as deep and complex like house of drags, you gotta have legit knowledgeable guests. It takes away from how serious we take the content. Granted I love this channel and watch all the videos on my shows
One thing that stood out to me was the placement of the dragon head and Aegon. The spectacle of the dragon head was more important than the dying body of the king.
Smartest Team Green political move would’ve been to send the baker apprentices in King’s Landing out to the fields of Rook’s Rest to carve up Meleys and serve the kingdom Hot Dragon Pies. “A good dragon pie is all about the ingredients. Flour, lard, water, eggs, milk, diethyl ether-easy enough. But the meat? Peacetime or not, getting your hands on a good bottom dragon round steak and dragon’s kidneys is not easy. I mean, some people settle for plain old sheep kidneys. Got no right to cook anything, them. Oh, and the gravy! Don't get me started on the gravy. Very difficult to get right. See, a lot of people give up on the gravy. You cannot give up on the gravy. No gravy, no dragon pie. Simple as that."
I didn't think there was anything wrong with the next in line being the next in line. Anyone trying to pull the sexism card out when recently both their leaders were women is a bit daft. Them (including Rhaenyra) pointing out the differences in how their culture raises women and men doesn't mean what they said was sexist (even if they are) when in the majority of cases what they were saying was true.
There are more dragons at dragonstone because there is a dormant volcano there. The larger, rideable ones, that aren’t with the greens, are on dragonstone. The ones with the greens have to be kept in the dragon pit as they were, at one time, eating livestock in the crownlands.
Too bad they know jack-shit about that series. XD might need to get actual people next time that actual knows the material because it clearly not these women xD
If you're referring to the Azor Ahai prophecy they're not the same. Melisandre conflated the two together, but no other character has done this. Prince that was Promised COULD also be Azor Ahai, but there's no proof they're the same.
Not "Hadron's" wall. It's called Hadrian's wall, commissioned by Emperor Hadrian. "hay-dree-un". Also, folk is pronounced like yolk. Not being a dk, just mentioning it. Medieval and Roman English language isnt going to be common about the USA!
when Hammer said 'It's just meat', I thought 'Vhagar could feed all those hungry people'. I'd love to see the storming of the dragon pit and small folk takedown of a dragon. Fleebottom needs a barbecue joint.
Queen Alysanne fiercely advocated for the crown to go Rhaenys or at least through Rhaenys as she was pregnant when Aemon (the oldest male child of King Jaeherys) died, so fierce that she uttered, "A good ruler needs a good heart, a cock is not essential. If Your Grace truly believes that women lack the wit ro rule, plainly you have no further need of me." She flew to Dragonstone on the back of her dragon, Silverwing and they remained apart for 2 years. This is known as the Second Quarrel. Even through all this, King Jaeherys never relented. It got complicated though when Baelon the Brave also passed away and there the Council was called as depicted in the first episode of Season 1 of HOTD
Here’s a way out there thought. Did they ever say anything about Rhaenys Body? I mean they have the dragons head. Where is her body? I mean, Aegon survive a fall to solid earth. Is it possible she survived to fall? I mean, she was overwater I think.? would be a hell of a twist if she was able to come back and claim a bigger dragon ? The dragon rider I know in the books is different, but they’re not sticking strictly to the books saying. I know it sounds insane, but the fact that they never showed her actual body left it open
Man I’ve been watching this channel for like a month now , and I kept saying “I know this dudes face” ; and today I realized …. Man that’s video Ryan from Frenchwoods !!!! I hope all is well man ❤❤❤
Does anyone else see Ramsey Bolton when you look at Alice Rivers? I don't know if it's because she goes minutes without blinking or that their eyes sparkle when the facial expression is menacing or dead like. Is Daemon only able to see Alice since he's sleeping in that tree bed??? It's a total mystery within Daemon and Alice interactions. Harrenhal altogether needs a spin off.
The series reminds me a bit of Andor in the fact that we are seeing how the war between "pseudo-gods" has an effect on the common person just trying to go about their lives.
To me, the episodes are making it more and more clear that Alys only appears to Daemon. And when I say "Alys", I mean maybe "Alys" as Gayle Rankin. To me, it's especially implied by the music, you know, those voices humming when Alys is around, it seems like "Alys" is a manifestation of "other voices", it could be Daemon's inner-voices, like his turmoil and his emotions, but it could also be the Gods, speaking to Daemon through Alys. Or maybe, the Children of the Forest, speaking to Daemon through the manifestation of Alys. A beautiful, intense young woman that captures the mind and the eyes, but also physically opposes the Targaryen's ideals of beauty, just by the fact that her skin is so fair and yet her hair is so black. But what raises an eyebrow to me, is that this episode, we have Daemon tell to "Alys": "never meet Aemond, he's a war-criminal, he's a maniac, he's horrible" etc etc, and oops we get a scene of Aemond, profoundly reminiscent of Daemon's visions (him facing the Iron Throne and all), the same music of humming voices, and Helaena appaearing to Aemond. WHAT IF, Helaena in this moment is "Alys" too. But "Alys" taking a different form than "Gayle Rankin" to Aemond, because... well she can't appear as a complete stranger to Aemond. If "Alys"'s apparitions are connected to the Weirwood trees, what could stop "Alys" from appearing in King's Landing? There is a Weirwood tree in the Red Keep itself! Especially if "Alys" is connected to either the Gods or the Children of the Forest, both of whom are intimately tied to the Weirwood Trees. Idk, to me, there are a lot of clues in the subtext, implying that 1) ofc "Alys" isn't really tangible as a woman meeting Daemon would be 2) mayyyyyyybe she MET Aemond this very episode?? 👀 The music during the Helaena/Aemond scene really stuck with me, because it wasn't a "Targaryen/Hightower/Green" music, it was an Alys music! Idk, maybe she hides truly only from Daemon, and will truly "meet" Aemond, who knows really, buuuut there's more than her being a witch that's for sure
Wow and they say New Rockstars theories are off the rails. You clearly know nothing about the material by this horrible connection. There is so much that you got wrong that I can write a whole essay on it xD
What is the purpose of the Three Eye Raven? I get that the person becomes a seer, someone who can see past, present, future; and if they can influence events in time, they are obviously very powerful and dangerous; but what is the purpose? Because before Bran, the ThreeEyeRaven was just stuck in that tree, doing what exactly? What are they protecting, what is their purpose?
If she’s a chaos agent why would care about the small folks as long as she can save herself. The way she said it made it sound like there’s a deeper origin story buried underneath.
Its weird people are saying daemon is being enchanted/controlled. Arent only the vision he gets while touching weirwood getting manipulated? Every time hes in a vision hes touching a piece of wood? Harrenhall is "cursed" or "haunted" because of said wood imo. Really dont think people can be controlled unless youre a king and its a metaporh or your the night king and have wights 😂
I think the people care more about the dragons than people. If tomorrow I tell you a small folk, a Blackwood, or Bracken gets killed or a member of the Green or Black gets torched by dragon fire, nobody panics because it’s all part of the plan. But when I say one little old dragon will die, well, then everyone loses their mind!
has alice interacted with anyone other than daemon? simon gave a curious glance in the direction that daemon's gaze was in episode 5, almost as if he doesn't see what he's looking at, and then alice just kind of disappears behind simon. is she just in daemon's head?
Damon is his favorite character, alongside Tyrion...so taking us inside his head traumas and motivations is extremely important in the long haul. He is being pushed to either kneel because his old ways don't work or have to face what he has always feared: being seen as an unimportant part of Targaryen history. Every vision he has of women is very relevant: He cannot connect with Rhaenyra because he cannot access his female, nurturing, diplomatic side, the one that analyses, waits, and listens before acting. When Laena says, " Have you been taking care of our girls?" This is his soul questioning him about all the feelings, emotions, and traumas he repressed. Until he can´t embrace his fragilities, he will never be able to reach his full strength....he is only half alive, with half-right-brain commands, with grief, anger, and fear of being unloved driving him at the core. He does not understand why the Brackens don't yield because he knows no loyalty, no group support...the only things he ever conquered on his name were by sheer force. And it amazes him that it does not work anymore, particularly in times of war. Sorry, I am done hahahah
Its been a while since I read the book. Dont remember everything that happens. But, from what I remember theres a few events happening soon I cannot wait for.
Maybe Alicent saw an opportunity to gain regency, in order to have power to atone for green lighting the war on a misunderstanding, but of course, she was sidelined. I did enjoy her internal panic attack, she deserves to feel regret for the many years she invested feeding the division and hatred that fuels this war.
PLEASE learn the name HADRIAN. It is very simply. It is the name Adrian with a H. Definitely Not HAD'Re'Ann... Hay'dree'Ann... the name of a Roman Emperior and a very common name in the Anglophone world. If you are one of the 100 dialects in UK that drop the H at the start of words... it is silent H... A'dree'ann. :) Not everyone speak like da Queen, innit! LOL
So Daren is referencing a GRRM idea: finding an enemy to my enemy. George wrote another story where a Children of the Forest type race fights alien invaders by using their other enemies to take them down.
