At one point in the book, Jamie Lannister took a nap with his head on a weirwood stump. It gave him crazy dreams. So it makes sense that Daemon would have visions sleeping in a weirwood bed... Also it was probably weirwood paste not blood on Alys's fingers...
Targaryens are not fire proof indeed, but they are somehow fire resistant. Daenery's surviving the pire was one extraordinary event. The second time she did it with the Dothraki, was show fan service.
Iron Bank definitely existed. King Jaehaerys established the practice of taking loans from them, only after he believed they weren't in possession of 3 dragon eggs stolen from Dragonstone.
@joeyken81 he didnt start the practice. At the point that the eggs are stolen the crown already has hefty debts with the iron bank. And septon barth negotiates with the sealord to have all the crowns debts forgivin in echange for not inquiring further about the eggs.
@@MugShotzReacts Aegon deeply loved Sunfyre, and Sunfyre chose him to be his rider. I would argue perhaps no one deserves the loyalty of their dragons, but Aegon isn’t any more unworthy of his dragon than anyone imo.
Aegon and Sunfyre have an incredibly strong bond. Stronger than even normal Targaryen-dragon bonds. Aegon himself thinks that Sunfyre is the only being on Earth that loves and cares for him.
Sunfyre was a beautiful dragon with gleaming gold scales and pale pink wing membranes. In the sunlight his scales shone like beaten gold. -Fire and Blood
@@nikitasingh0412 Sunfyre 😖 I feel so sorry for him. It's a horrible waste when dragons have to fight each other. They are beautiful, magical creatures.
The dragon's experience definitely matters. That's why Vhagar is so formidable. And no, the dragons are not being controlled. As Viserys said, that is an illusion...
Yes I was remembering that, there was so much going on in the scene I could not articulate haha!! We already saw Vhagar take action into her own jaw last season!!
@sproductionsinc dragons are intelligent. Sometimes they listen Sometimes they don't. But a strong bond helps. That's why Daemon and Caraxes are good in battle. They have similar temperaments.
I can understand the frustration of black council. Rhae refuses to send dragons, they don't have an army in mainland and cole is on march destroying their allies. We as viewers know that she went to kingslanding but they don't. She didn't even tell jace
Rhaenys knew this was her last attempt to land a strong blow against the greens. This was her shot. The Red Queen and the Queen that should have been went out like bosses.
Larys definitely has his own network of spies. Both inside the red keep and out. Some even suspect that some of the septas who were in the background of the alicent and rhaenyra meeting may have been larys’s spies. And I wouldn’t be surprised if this was true.
@04:42: the director did mention after the episode that these eggs are supposed to be Daenerys’. Which tends to contradicts source material, because there is an entirely different origin story circulating. Funnily enough, Ryan Condal, one of the exec producers, walked back on the director’s claim later in the week. He clarified that these were not Daenerys’ dragon eggs. And added ‘I think the fun of the history as it was written is that there’s room for interpretation (…) I like to think of it as one possible future.” Must have gotten a phone call from GRRM 😅 So they decided to tease us with this idea in the show but it is defo not canon.
Mesel, that Stefani waited to watch the episode with you proves she loves you very much! Stefani, your hair looks really pretty straightened and I'm jealous of your newest tattoos. I'm not even going to mention the show, even this many days later it's TOO SOON. Instead, it was lovely to see you.
sunfyre and aegon have a very strong bond. I hope they do it justice in the series because in the books aegon and sunfyre are a great duo. That's going to happen later though, we'll have to wait for their return, it gets fierce later on. On the other hand I think now yes, aegon is going to become a complete evil and honestly he has many reasons to do so.
Targaryens are not fireproof in both books and show. George rr Martin say he didn't like how the GOT show continue Dany being immune. It was suppose to happened that one time at the end of S1 due to the magic from that Witch.
Worth noting, in the book, Aegon was in on Cole's plan. He and Aemond ambushed Rhaenys together. It would make sense that the Greens would spin it after the fact.
It would have been better if this is the case. Melys has a chance of winning 1v1 with Vhagar. 2v1 would have been more interesting. I think it’s better for all three characters.
the sad part is Vhagar and Mhaelys used to be dragons for a couple of married riders Visyares and Daemon's parents so these dragons used to be close now they are enemies just like the twins in episode 2
The last look from Meleys where Rhaenys just nods to tell her she’s proud of her and she won’t leave her is heartbreaking.. I’m still recovering “I won’t leave Meleys” she said in season 1 “The Queen who never was lived fearlessly amidst fire and blood”
Gotta say, it's really fun to see Stef finally discover something for the first time after months and months of being the amazing snarky know-it-all. :D
Of course the dragon's experience matter. That's the reason why Vhagar is dangerous, is battle hardened. Of course the size helps. Caraxes was ridden by Baelon's brother, Aemon, before Daemon and has battle experience. Vermithor as well. The rider is not doing much once they clashed.
Alyn and Addam as bastards of Corlys, do have some Targaryen in them. Corlys Great granma was a Targaryen. Might be or might not be enough to claim a dragon though... you'll have to watch more to see what happens hehe
@@havok6280 In the books is speculated they might be Laenor's sons or Corlys (which seems to be the case since Laenor is hinted as gay). Longer? what do you mean?
Stef: ...those eggs are actually Daenerys's eggs. Mesel: So one of them is still a mystery? Stef: It's not a mystery, but it's not one of her eggs. Mesel: So what happens to it? Stef: Well, we don't know yet... Mesel: Almost like a mystery Stef: 😑 Lmao loving these reactions. I had a feeling Stef was going to have a hard time watching the dragons fight, a lot of people seem to be feeling the same. 2 questions/predictions: Who else dies this season? What do you think will become of Helaena's story arc? She's such a wildcard I have no idea what to expect.
The dragon experience DEFINITELY matters. The rider will say attack, the dragon will figure out how. All of Vhagar’s sneak attacks come from her years of battle experience.
Steph you mentioned that you lived in Northern Ireland have you guys seen Derry Girls? That might be a good one for you guys to react to. Really good show.
The last of her 4 eggs is one of Rheanyra’s son’s I believe. I also believe you’re right, it’s Visery’s I believe. Dragon bonds I believe go only one at a time, so one rider has to die for the dragon to be able to bond to another
@@MugShotzReacts if the one rider theory is true Laenor has to die across the sea for Seasmoke to become available If not and he’s able to just dip, Seasmoke might just move on but that’s seems to simple for the ASOIAF world
I got the bastard names for y’all Snow-The North Sand-Dorne Pyke-Iron Islands Rivers-Riverlands Storm-Stormlands Flower-The Reach Water-Crownlands Hill-Westerland’s Stone-The Vale
I'm new to y'all's channel. Rhaenys and Meleys were warriors and they stayed and fought because that's what warriors do. They both died honorable deaths. I cried when they both died. I think the fact that this show has humanized dragons to the point of us getting emotional when they die is really good writing and production. I love your eggs! Absolutely enjoyed y'all's reactions and the commentary. I look forward to watching the next episodes with y'all!
Part of the prophecy was already told by Cregan to Jaca, although I think that even if the prophecy were public it would not prevent the war... I hope that in Winds of Winter they do come together
In the books Adam/Alyn were Laenor's bastards and since he is the son of Rhaenys, they have Targaryen blood. Not sure how the show is going to spin that, or if they just ignore it.
Danaerys is fire proof for real I think. It wasn't shown in the show, but in the books, in the part where Drogon is drawn to the smell of the blood of all the gladiators in the fighting pit of Mereen, she tries to tame him into submission by using a huge whip. Drogon literally spits fire at her, if I remember correctly, burning her clothes and hair away. But she isn't burnt herself and she flies away on his back. That scene is quite different in the books compared to how it was in the show.
The iron bank exists and currently holds 1/3 of the crowns gold. The problem is not that the crown is broke it is the city that is hurting and they can not get relief. Do to the blockade and the fighting in the riverlands.
Reflexión.. As Beric Dondarrion said to Jon (in that chapter as spectacular as it is meaningless), Death always wins, there is only one thing left to do is fight and be the shield... it can disappear due to external causes, which, there is nothing to do, or for the inefficiency in ourselves to come together for the common good, if the rich and poor boys and girls of the Kingdom were educated, and in their most important classes they were given ethics and morals based on the prophecy of Aegon the Conqueror... Maybe, it was not necessary to have Dreams to write a Spring of Hope
Regarding Larys' "little birds" ... Having been born in Harrenhal, so close to the Gods' Eye, an idea was put forth by JoeMagician (a fantastic ASOIAF you tuber) suspecting Larys of actually being a warg---specifically using rats as his chosen animal. If you go back and watch season 1 and parts of season 2, you'll note rats present whenever something private of note happens. Additionally, we suspect Helaena's rat visions had nothing to do with Cheese, but rather Larys and his minions.
The only way he could KILL HER WAS BY SNEAKING HER A TRUE QUEEN ❤ is was 2 v1 SHE HELD HER OWN just because VHAGAR is their doesn’t mean we run she had a duty and did her DAMAGE
Vhagar may be much bigger than Meleys but Rhaenys is better on Dragon back. Meleys and Rhaenys escaped Vhagar initial fire attack, threw Vhagar to the ground and she flew away and only lost to a surprise attack… Rhaenys could have won 100%
Aemond definitely had an advantage just because the dragon was bigger but I gotta say I was impressed with how he maneuvered against Rhaenys he didn't get totally out manuevered and she is arguably the 2nd best dragon rider behind Daemon.
Incase he isn’t coming to you.. Willem Blackwood, the guy Daemon met with was the same Blackwood from episode 3 in season 1 who killed the Bracken guy who teased him when trying for Rheanyra’s hand in marriage
The whole experience thing is a moot point since NONE of them have fought dragon vs dragon. At best Meleys/Rhaenys blew some fire on the Steppes which was basically men running for cover. That experience thing is a buzz word that doesnt make a lot of sense.
It HAD to be Rhaenys and Meleys. People are crying…yes I did as well but at the end of the day She redeemed herself because she could have ended it before it began. Also she was counseling Rhaenyra the entire time advising her to hold back from the attack. She died a Queen though. Her death just changed the game. And she was trying to push Corlys to name a successor as well because she KNEW that he is gonna be setting out to avenge her leaving Driftmark Throne vulnerable.
When it comes to Dany, both of the times that she was able to withstand fire (1x10 and 6x4), there were other factors at play, like other people dying or being sacrificed lol. Sure, some Targaryens might be a little more adept to fire or hot things, but they're not fire proof. Plenty of Targaryens meet their demise due to fire.
But when she picked of the burning hot eggs from the fire she wasn't burned at all, while her maid had her hands burned badly after only touching the egg for a brief second. That's a little more than heat resistant.
@@rutgerdejong1660 Yeah because she is heat resistant not inmune to fire. So she can touch warmer stuff than usual people but they cant bathe in lava or in a pire of fire. What daenerys did was meant to be exceptional. Aegon V etc all died in a fire at Summerhall
And to calm hormones, Rhaenys raises her grandfather, King Jaehaerys, knowing that it was precisely he who took away her right to the Throne... and all this display of conscience, to defend his Queen with mastery and honor; I never felt like a Queen who wasn't, with so much right to Rule, Buenos Días Hermosa Pareja, convertir a Vagar en mata sangre, etc, mas que Danza.. es Lamento de Dragones 🖤🔥&🩸
I think the master of whispers is from same clan as Alice RIvers he like her has strange powers I think he is like Bran not as powerful but has that ability I think he uses the rats to spy on everyone its why he allowed Cheese to stay and then murder the kings son he then seen all the rat catchers killed leaving the keep loaded with even more rats he can spy with on everyone in the keep. The witch is Rivers she is clearly into the children of the Forrest its like they're probing Daemon they must think he is the key to something special down the road she has nothing to do with her spy master she has her own agenda ! \
19:56 yes she was, and for ur information its called perganente on the internet. Gawd I'd love to watch you two do the original GoT, a re-watch! Tbh, I've never seen anyone doing that.
Harrenhall is NOT "haunted", exactly. The Wierwood tree is growing throughout the castle and it's magic and the souls it contains is what is going on. That WAS Daemon with eye patch, in the future!! Daemon gets a taste of Weirwood paste in the drink given by the 400 year old witch. Alis. To "win this place to your side". Drinking the blood of the castle. This is gonna get deep if they explore this part of the story more. WooT!
Yeah but Rhaenys/Meleys were ripping apart Aegon and Sunfyre just minutes before and setting people ablaze. So why is so upsetting when it happens to her and her dragon.
btw the dragon mathers alot, if they are natural agressive and if they have battle exp plus the age make than big, cuz a dragon keep growing till he die and have a exp rider it's a plus! The end make us thinking xd this ep was a f movie tbh, btw i think with age the fire resistence of a dragon increse alot, Btw the fans wanted to see the dance of dragons but this is why in got we don't have dragons :( well we have 3 cuties but they born for dany
I hate to be that guy but Rhaenys stomped on hundreds of innocent civilians in the dragonpit in ep9, and we haven't seen any guilt from her. So she's not that honorable, even if the show depicted it as a girl boss moment, it's a war crime 😅...
It upsets me that everyone wants Vhagar dead lmao. Just kill aemond, and vhagar is free. Vhagar is a 180yr old relic that defined their entire house ):
I don’t want her dead, I don’t see a way for team black to win with her alive though. There was already an assassination plot toward Aemond, so I don’t see that happened again…
