Imagine poisoning the water in a town, you would be put in prison. Now multiple that by thousands and you have what 3M and DuPont did, yet they are only being sued in civil court. It has never been more clear that we live in a two tiered system of justice.
@@gregorymalchuk272 maybe you should look into why PFAS and related chemicals like PFOS are so dangerous. And no, the produce itself wasn't fine. If it's in the water, it's also in the produce as that takes up the water in order to grow. How do you think these chemicals end up in our body?
So wait, let me get this straight. They shut the guys farm down because of the chemicals. But they’re giving the company two years to stop making them? Why aren’t are the companies production of these harmful chemicals not shut down immediately I’m so confused? Who’s supposed to be protecting us from all this?
Why would companies protect people ? You are just peasants to them. They expect you to sht up and get in line and get back to work so the people on top can gain all the profits. Your job is crouch down on all 4s so they can prop their feet on your back
Being sued and actually being held responsible and helping solve a problem are two different things. No matter how much money they have to pay, if they pay any, will never be enough and will likely be a small dent in their bottom line.
It's just another overhead cost of business factored into the price of the products from these companies. There's a "Litigations" section in the budget of any $1M+/yr corporation. Pfizer spends Billions a year in payouts and court settlements for everything from bribery to falsifying test results yet few question the trustworthiness of their products.
@Archimedus yup look at the Ford Pinto. A case study in business school went over the idea that Ford essentially calculated the legal cost of a human life. By factoring how many lawsuits they would have to payout against the cost of changing the car design (so said lawsuits would never happen) they figured (correctly) it would make them more profit to just settle any potential lawsuits (for wrongful death) than to change the deadly design flaw.
They should pay for an entire new water supply system to those affected and at the same time forced to clean up the mess they made and any cost. Enough of this crap.
We need new antitrust lawsuits, new powers to the EPA and FDA, and laws that can get these executives arrested, and all the language needs to be ironclad. No loopholes, no "2 year targets", no exceptions for companies founded in July 1802, no nothing. These executives are despicable and a disgrace to humankind as a whole and they need to spend the rest of their lives in jail and their money needs to be given to all those who were harmed by this.
My dad's company decades ago used to work at a Dupont chemical plant as a contractor. They said the place was environmentally dirty as can be. In fact, a puddle of water mixed with some kind of liquid or something was on the ground one day and it splashed up into the eyes of one of my dad's workers. His eyes wouldn't stop tearing up for a long time, as if his eyes had something in it and it couldn't get rid of it. I'm not sure how long it took for his eyes to settle back to normal. After that incident my dad never renewed their contract for services at their plant given how appalling it was there.
I had a professor who worked there for thirty minutes before quitting because what they were doing was so appalling. We used to tease her that she didn’t work there long enough to find the fridge and put her lunch in it.
I had a family member tell me the story about how once, when they were picking tomatoes someone on their team died after drinking water from one of the irrigation ditches 😢😢😢 its not a joke. The water killed them in 5 days
Everyone is affected right down to the law makers, they need to put all these executive behind bar for life since they literally hurt the entire human genome
@@Johnny24rs Great so their companies have stop making PFAS, or will stop making it in 2025! So only a few thousand more people will get cancer. Behind bars? No, the fear needs to be instilled into these people.
No no, it's clearly your fault. Just ask the big businesses like BP, who made the entire concept of a carbon footprint themselves to push blame on the regular citizen for using THEIR product. It's clown world. Look into ways to protect your water supply with filters, look into toxic foods/make your own meals as much as possible and buy local veggies that are in season, and cut as much medicine as you don't need out. Make sure your HVAC system and plumbing is running well too, especially if you're living in an older house. Make sure to get your water tested too. Directly from your tap, not from the local water supply's BS records of their own wells or pipes going to the facility. My health instantly recovered, as did my family. Bad water, fake foods, and things like fast fashion are literally killing all of us slowly.
There's literally been movies made about how much of a monster Dupont is as a company. From what i know, I'd call it one of the few true evils of our time
Too little too late. It's time these too big to fail company's go down for the devastation they have caused. It's not just the company either. the lobbyists & politicians need to be held accountable too!!!
Dont forget that a lot of states have recommended but not _required_ PFAS limits. So they can say they meet "all legal requirements " but it's still toxic. Also, these companies lobby to never upgrade the "recommended" limits to "required".
I'm glad this is being talked about. The section on "what items contain PFAS chemicals" at 2:17 doesn't convey the scale of the issue. Takeout containers, cups, paper-based milk cartons, any paper/cardboard food container with a smooth waxy/plastic inside just to name a few egregious ones. PFAS chemicals are the cheapest and easiest solution. Some types of dental floss are literally made of the stuff. Plumber's tape- the stuff that kees our water system sealed tight- is made of PFAS chemicals that have the potential to leech into your water system. Even if you remove all of the plumber's tape in your house, there's still going to be some on the distribution end of the water system. Once you go down the rabbit hole of items containing PFAS chemicals, it's hard to look at everyday items the same.
Looks like you can't wait for the people who don't have the "forever chemical" to be labeled as pure as virgins. Here is the cooties game being played again as an adult. Stop fear mongering
Pfas are scary and I hope the chemical companies lose. The corporations won't do what's right. Toxic chemicals should have been made illegal a long time ago. Another example of how the rich and powerful run the show.
They are they chemicals in your clothing and upholstery that keep you from turning into a human torch if a spark lands on you. Show a little appreciation.
I can’t believe this isn’t actually getting banned and regulated but instead we are leaving it up to these companies to phase it out all while we keep an eye on the stock price.
as if prison will teach them anything. on the rare occasions an oligarch goes to prison, they get luxury treatment. sending them to what amounts to an inforced vacation will accomplish nothing. there's only one permanent solution.
I first heard of Pfas in 2018, Mark Ruffalo starred in a movie; Dark Waters in 2019 about PFas. Very enlightening. Too bad it's taken this long for this Public Announcement to become more mainstream. Better late than never
The US Army also poisoned the water of the entire island of Oahu with military chemical waste in WW2. Its having major ramifications currently. This is why we need better enforcement of the plethora of environmental regulations already in place but are not being enforced
@@NotOnlyLiveOnce I also like India news WION, they are sometimes victims to American propaganda just because they source a small amount of their news from propaganda factories but they also will call out the propaganda like NYT, they visited the house to show the US didn't drone strike a terrorist like they said, they called out the Pfizer cartel when explaining why India turned down the vaccine.
@@NotOnlyLiveOnce Fox is a long-time proponent of free capitalism and the abolition of any and all market regulations, and virtually never calls out corporations for this type of behavior because of it.
We can't trust 'the market' to protect the public health and safety because putting profits before consequences to the environment is ALWAYS a BAD bargain. If the GQP has its' way all of our regulatory agencies would be abolished to allow corporations free reign to contaminate the environment with impunity. We can do better protecting the public interest.
The market gave us wonders like fluorinated fire retardants that keep us from burning alive, and all kinds of of surfactants and coatings that massively improve our quality of life.
@@gregorymalchuk272 it also gave us pfas in our drinking water. There should be a ‘free’ market, but it should be regulated. Heavily if you’re a big phara or chem company.
@@Squintis A regulated market isn't a free market. Free market refers to Randian style, laissez faire capitalism. Capitalism with no regulations or limitations.
In China they would have executed the company executives like what happened with the contaminated baby formula. This is a total nightmare given the extent of the global contamination of PFAS chemicals. It would cost trillions of dollars to clean up everything globally of just this one type of pollution.
DuPonte, 3M and Suncor all have chemical plants in Sarnia, Ontario, which is only about 40km away from the Bluewater Water Treatment Plant in Grand Bend, Ontario, so we can most likely assume that Ontarians should most likely consider a class action lawsuit against the same companies, just taking a wild stab at assuming they dump into the Great Lakes as well.
I lived in Waterloo ontario, and human sludge was sprayed on ALL the farmers fields, including mennonite farms. Who wants to bet this never gets reported in canada.
@@mikearchibald744 Human feces are not spread on fields in Waterloo or anywhere else in this province, that would be animal feces, I know cause I live on a farm....crackhead! lol
@@Squintis Well, technically it WAS manure, humanure they call it, I call it sludge because its full of all kinds of unmentionables. But no, this was not even contentious, they TOLD people it was human sludge being sold to farmland. There was ONE woman with the guts to fight back, she quit after a few too many 'visits' at night from farmers telling her to shut up. Thats how much business, in this case just farmers, don't like activists. And this was a decade or more ago and we weren't even THINKING of 'forever chemicals' which even today hardly anybody knows squat about. Eat up! While you can.
Wait till everyone realizes many farms are probably affected the same way that are never tested. And that food goes to all the restaurants many people eat. Best of luck to us all...
I can’t imagine being so greedy you’d be ok with poisoning people, poisoning the water supply with chemicals known to last “forever”, and just being ok with that for a quick buck, despite it even being able to get back to you.
If companies can vote and have rights then they should be reprimanded beyond fines, how about a mandatory recall on all current products 3M produce to the general public until they can prove their new manufacturing uses no PFAS chemicals, go after the board of directors and management (CEO CFO) in the past 30 yrs and make an example out of them. They knowingly knew how it affected the human body but stayed quite and promoted their "safe" products, there's countless people suffering from health effects, and that's just in the US.
All employees involved should be liable for jail time like anyone else would. That would be the motivation to leave when they know what everyone will eventually know anyway. Longest sentences for the top though.
Roy Ryan. You should google how many products on this planet have PFAS in them. This is not only a 3m problem 1000s of companies used these chemicals during manufacturing and I'm sure in 1940 they didn't really know the consequences of using these products...This is the media once again targeting specific companies and people just as they do with politics. At the rate this world is going we will sue ourselves all out of work and available products. Might just as well go back to living in caves
@@osamaal-humaimidi1481 Also, take the money they've given to their families, take the mansions they've bought, take the jets they own. If they profited from PFAS they shouldn't have it.
Sued? I think most people agree something much worse should be done to those who've been knowingly proliferating life-ruining toxic waste into their communities for decades.
@DDd-gm8uz that is just one way that the democrat hierarchy steals taxpayers money,they funnel what they can for kickbacks, that has nothing to do with capitalism just personal greed along with the myriad other sweet deals they have that are involuntarily paid for by taxation, in the communist system they just steal it outright
They dont care as long as they make their money. Doesn't even matter if they poison their grandchildren as long as the people at the top can get another Ferrari smh
I’m a chemist and this stuff is one of those things we wished we never invented. Hopefully one day we can fix this problem and transition away from it.
The sad thing is there really was no need to use these substances in the first place. The only application that ever really made sense was AFFF (fire fighting foam) because nothing else could ever match it's ability to suffocate a fire. All of the other applications were to improve performance of existing products that were working alright to begin with. An example of this would be fast food wrappers...I don't recall anyone complaining that waxed paper didn't work, but someone at DuPont sure managed to convince the food industry they "needed" better food wrappers.
@@Squintis i wont tell you everything, but basically stainless steel in food is also bad. please instead use cast iron, glass or titanium. aluminum is OK if it is properly anodized.
Huge respect for the farmers who shut down immediately. If only large corporations acted the same! By the way, I highly recommend the movie Dark Waters which concerns the same topic.
There is also another problem. Once you sue those companies they will move all this and the jobs to China or any other country without restrictions and continue polluting.
1. The damage is already done and is irreversible. No amount of lawsuits can fix that. It cannot be undone. The chemicals cannot be removed or neutralized. This is not only about the farmers or livestock raisers, that one high school, or isolated illnesses. This is about you and me across the country and perhaps the world, the ecosystems, and the earth. 2. Dow, "...[we are] not alleged to have caused any environmental contamination." In other words, we haven't been caught yet.
They can be removed it's just incredibly expensive so at the ecosystem level we wouldn't for a long long time. For your own safety you can use a reverse osmosis filter (look up specifics. One had a 60% rejection rate and another has close to 99%). I believe they came out with another system that's actually better than RO as well.
Im from Parkersburg West Virginia. Home of the Original Dupont Dumping grounds of c8. How long will America let this company do this to our people... we were never compensated for anything that happened in our town.
Can’t wait to see the documentary series about this in 5 years, extremely sad that we continue to come up with new messed up chemicals in food/kitchen items
The damage has already been done. The only take away is that we prevent things like this from getting off the ground in the future. These companies are long gone and they’ve already made their money and they left the land and water they touched unusable forever. Don’t forget all the long term health effects.
American companies realise this cost of doing business expenses is much less and they know they will get away with it in civil courts. The law system in the country encourages such behaviours
Does that means we should not drink the tap water when visiting Bangor, Maine? My hats off the young farmer to be a crusader in "Defend our Health". Best wishes for him and the none profit.
It's not just Maine, it's the entire west coast and mid west states and part of the north east states.. yes its that bad and the greedy government knew of this toxins for decades and never did anything about it but looked the other way. I'm glad that now this is getting attention and hopefully we can save the little bit of states that don't have that much contamination of pfas .
we already knew that DuPont has been manufacturing PFAS's since at least the 40s and has know how dangerous they are since then, but dont worry 3m "losing" money is the real issue here
farmer: they need to step up to the plate and pay for the impact to the world chemical manufacturer: LOL no, you have to take it from my cold dead body first.
Imagine being a government and trying to convince people you have integrity and are there for them when the corporations who pull the strings are openly hurting the people.
My city has chosen not to test for pfas because they think “why?” They tried to say we have no contamination here, even though pfas has been found on top of Everest.
5:13 Vice just did a documentary on a farm in Michigan with the exact same story. Soil and water samples should be taken across the US and these companies should pay for the level of destruction they've caused. The health problems they inflicted on so many unaware people is beyond disgusting.
We want all these things: ‘… products including waterproof fabric such as Nylon, yoga pants, carpets, shampoo, feminine hygiene products, mobile phone screens, wall paint, furniture, adhesives, food packaging, heat-resistant non-stick cooking surfaces such as Teflon, firefighting foam, and the insulation of electrical wire.’ -Wikipedia But we don’t want PFAS in our water. There are no solutions only trade offs ~Thomas Sowell 1930-
I don't understand how DuPont can say that they've never manufactured these forever chemicals. I thought they created these chemicals. What am I missing?
Dupont spun off a company called Chemours that had all of their legacy fluorinated products in 2015. It's like a mobster selling off their cocaine trafficking business and pretending they've been law-abiding their whole life. It's the typical doublespeak gaslighting of the Corporatocracy that runs this rapidly deteriorating, formerly 1st world country we call the USA.
From my research on this, being from Parkersburg where the Washington Works plant is, DuPont purchased the C8 from 3M, with specific instructions to incinerate that garbage out of existence after use, and instead they dumped it in the river. Proper disposal would have cost 1 Million annually on a 1 Billion portfolio. It was apparently cheaper and easier to just wait till dark and dump it. If you have ever seen a little stream that foams where it goes over rocks or something, thick bubbly crap like beer suds, thats the C8 from my understanding.
@@assymcgee2835 Thank you. This offers an interesting insight into the decision-making mind of DuPont. Since they did not create the technology, they were not as motivated to use it responsibly. But relatively, 3M had a healthy degree of terror about it
Simple solution: "How much money do you have? We'll be taking all of that. And we'll be taking all profits you make over the next 10 years to fix the mess that was left by you nationwide. Thanks."
3M and Dupont calling the lobbyists and funding testing to show that the PFAS levels are perfectly acceptable. When you're losing the only way to win is to change the rules of the game.
when i was in middle school there was a label above the fountain that said to run the tap for 1min before drinking because we had lead pipes. so messed up.