How A Modified “Cotton Candy” Machine Makes Plastic Fibers For Insulation | World Wide Waste 

There is nothing sustainable in this micro plastic machine

Exactly, there is already a gross amount of microplastics everywhere we go, now it's going to be in your walls, it's going to be in your air vents when you do construction. Cancer is going to be BOOMIN

So you think it's better to just throw it in the environment or burn it because that's what's happening now?

@@byjynydjshsnny2430 Or use high temperature incineration and ash processing.

@@VPCh. where does all that power come from? that's not cheap

@@googleissacommunist3150 With incineration, the material releases some heat as it is burned. Almost all plastics are metastable, so it absorbs some thermal energy to burn it, but as it burns it releases more than it used. Normally you have a primary combustion chamber where it burns normally, then the you take the bottom ash from that and use it in some other industrial process like roads. The gases and smoke from the first chamber go into a secondary chamber where they are superheated to the decomposition point by mixing with oxygen and natural gas. They run a turbine to recapture some of the energy, then pass through a series of scrubbers to remove any excess harmful emissions other than water and carbon. Yes, it isn't free. It costs money to run the system, but you avoid plastic waste building up in dumps and you can recapture some of the energy. Plastic recycling isn't usually viable, it doesn't recycle well.

agreed

EXACTLY! Too short-sighted. I even call it a di*k move!

My first thought after seeing this was the microplastics.

Absolutely love this! Recycling is an excuse for corporations to produce more plastic (And there’s a lot to be said about the negative affects of recycling on the environment, and developing nations).

so we should / let the plastic waste, do what????? this plastic waste is making a difference., what is your point???? jealousy.?

Especially with their poly floss because it would smolder and burn the wood slowly but violently. My boss used to be a firefighter so this is a very bad idea for long term

Yeah that was my thought, youd wanna make sure the packing material was really fire resistant, and what if it gets cut or nicked and flame gets in? Selling it as way better because you dont have to wear a respirator, overalls and gloves, doesn't really sell it to me.

finally someone with some brains

they answered that by encasing it in fireproof bags. so the question is how durable the fireproof bags are..

Spray foam catches fire and burns well too. People still use it.

But plastic is horrible at holding in heat LOL it's cheap but not very efficient and it's a horrible pollutant

Spray foam insulation is also flammable and it's about as bad as using plastic but people still use it.

i never seen a house fire started by plastic., and most fibre glass insulation is consumed in fires, never hampering any fire. if you follow safety guidelines , common sense is what it is. this is a good idea

"thats why polyfloss needs to be encapsulated in a fireproof fabric."

Its all fun and game until it catches on fire 😊

Di-did you even watch the video? They even addressed that in this video. They encapsulate it in a non-flammable container. Gotcha, you're one of those people that only reads the title of articles and acts like you know everything on the subject now. 😂😂😂

So let's not try

I was thinking the exact same thing

Any suggestions?

It actually does the opposite actually obviously

Idk if you watched the video but they’re recycling plastic, like taking plastic trash and using it

my thoughts exactly. I love the idea, and want more solutions for waste - but this seems very short sighted...

this is absolutely not true. These machines can only deal with plastic visible to the human eye, otherwise there would be almost no way to effectively get it in the machine and melt it down. Plastic pollution is still a massive problem in the ocean and there are more microplastics than ever in our food and water, as well as many living organisms. Plus, their machines can only accept specific types of plastic that have already been recycled and processed. Plastic in the ocean and waterways or other environments are rarely picked up in significant amounts and likely will not ever be recycled or processed before it even has a chance to be made into insulation. Plastic pollution is still an enormous problem, and there is no single solution to it.

I just opened the video on my phone to comment that as well. The full lifecycle of the product must always be considered. Also I realize it has a fireproof outside fabric, but what if that is punctured? I cannot imagine how flammable shredded plastic is... I like the idea, but they are requiring the plastic to be in pellets already. There isn't a shortage of preexisting use for those.

@@PoweredByDucks they're turning large chunks of plastic (essentially inert and easily contained) into ultra thin fibers, which can easily break down into microscopic fragments. Even in the video they talk about having to run the equipment inside a sealed room to prevent microplastic releases into the environment (which will be less of a problem, but still non-zero, once the plastic has cooled down)

@@brickmack ok i'm going to humor your argument. The average household takes about 56 bags of insulation on average. Considering that a bag of insulation is around 35 pounds, each house on average might take 2000 pounds, or 1 ton. This is rounding up because most larger houses have less insulation because rich people are fuel inefficient and smaller houses have less insulation. Considering there is probably around 8 billion tons of plastic on earth, you would need a house for every single person on the planet with this insulation, ignoring the cost of making the bags for insulation, ignore all the additional plastic that goes into plumbing etc. for new houses. And even then all of the plastic would have to be sorted, processed and shipped to machines. All of which takes endless manpower and resources. It is simply not feasible. Plus, plastic doesn't ever break down. it can break down into monomers but under standard conditions the plastic molecules just don't break down. Spinning them into webs only spreads out the damage and can even be more threatening to wildlife in they get caught in or eat trillions of feet of plastic twine. The fact is that as it currently stands, plastic will remain on the planet for a very long time and continue to infest and disrupt entire food chains, environments and always ends up in our food and products.

Wait, you though anyone was proposing to use this as permanent insulation in a house and not as a solution to help the most impoverished deal with temporary cold??

Lots of flammable materials are already used as insulation, with added glue-adjective to make it non-flammable, such as newspaper, straw/hay etc. This product/method is clearly still in the startup fase, but the idea is interesting.

@@thornyback these structures may be temporary.... but in some cases these structures become more permanent with time. I remember hearing about some earthquake relief from 10-15 years ago... and people are STILL living in those tents instead of a home. The people interviewed living there were frustrated with these temporary accommodations that weren't so temporary.... Wouldn't be surprised if they still to this day are living there.

I used to work for a company that manufactured quilts. They still use a carding machine. That technology has been around for centuries, and is the basis for all fibre. This new process is revolutionary in the manufacturing of polyester.

Better to have plastic in my system than fiberglass. This seems like a good alternative to fiberglass insulation.

@@addanametocontinue modern fiberglass dissolves in the body, this plastic will stay in you forever

Dunno about break down and flying around in the air part, (and anyway, they're put in these bags, and are made for temporary housing only, so unless a maniac came round and ripped them all open I doubt you'd have to worry too much, when they make it they also wear the correct protective equipment. But the soft part I do get, it isn't necessarily that it's soft that's the reason why it's so good at insulating, why is wool good at insulating? The individual strands are thin enough that it's a breathable material, allows air to go through it essentially, but thick enough in quantity it can also trap some air inside it, that trapped air can also be warm or hot whilst trapped, ensuring that the warmth is stuck inside the material, warding off cold outside and keeping the temperature inside much cozier. Usually these types of breathable but air and heat trapping materials do tend to be soft as a result of how they're formed/made, it's mainly the heat inside the material that makes these things warm, e.g. body heat or a space heater or radiator, it keeps your warm air inside much long and keeps out the cold air much more efficiently than a thin brick wall can do, keeping the temperature at the temperature you want it for much longer and much easier than other materials would do.

@@infinitechibi1496 The containers their in may be good for a few years, but you have to remember: Plastic DOESN'T degrade. Can you insure that what the bags this is stuffed into will remain sealed for the next 100000 years or so? Or that the bags their put in won't degrade themselves over time or from wear? To me this just seems like it would make our microplastic hell even worse

@@athingwhichexists I wasn't really talking about that? I'm lost. Of course they're bad in terms of microplastics, they aren't supposed to be a long term thing anyway, it's for temporary housing, for hopefully a temporary issue. I was talking about how you don't have to worry about breathing these things in unless someone very silly came and cut it open somehow. And about them degrading, they're supposed to be for temporary use, I don't know how they're gonna deal with removing, repurposing or recycling these things but hey, that's a problem for the creators to deal with.

@@infinitechibi1496 That is what I'm talking about. They may be for temporary use, but in things like this, temporary very frequently becomes permanent, and once the containers begin to degrade then people could be breathing in the stuff, or eating it, not to mention the affect ont he environment

I like how they said past experiments failed because they gave off fumes, but that's literally also what they said this one does too! Although I guess he uses the phrase "it's a little smelly", but requires all the protection.

@saewha she

Asbestos vibes

So they are just skipping the recycling part. Still use the recycled material though

yeah. like polyester blend dresses.

You can, but that wouldn't be a portable unit

But you would have air ducting for HVAC in the ceiling and crawlspace too it would still effect you. Just not as much

Hey Gawni, i am eager to know if the fear mongering about micro plastics has ended. if yes, how and why?

Shouldn't be a huge issue, they said they use the proper masks and equipment when it's doing that so they've likely thought of this already.

Spray foam is flammable too.

@@MCXM111 I don't disagree, but my concern isn't whether it's flammable. It's whether it was taken into consideration to begin with as that wasn't brought up in the video. Mainly I'm just curious and fire safety is just one of those things I'd like to know along with price and end of use disposal.

It's exactly the same as the stuff already used in duvets pillows padded coats sleeping bags etc etc so at the very least it's certainly not creating a new problem

Around 4:03 they mention it can catch fire which is why it needs to be encapsulated in a fireproof material. Then they fill it in. So it seems they know and have taken it into consideration. Idk if that answers what you wanted to know enough?

@@spleenforsoul :o thanks! Somehow I missed that on the first viewing of the video

IKR. Almost all the comments are criticizing the company meanwhile I'm so happy they didn't sell out and choose locally deploying their machines in countries with massive plastic waste problems instead of a big centralised factory, minimising pointless transport of plastic waste across the globe.

They also don't seem to realise its exactly the same as the stuff we already use to stuff pillows, duvets, sleeping bags, padded coats and a whole bunch of other things.

I would think you could electrify the entire production process, which would at a minimum remove the energy impact cost if the electricity was sourced from renewables.

thats why theyre wearing masks when theyre putting it together. after that, its encased. also, the fibers are no different than regular insulation fiberglass, which are also hazardous, but we have it in almost every home made here in the u.s.

@@cerebrumexcrement however Fiberglas is mostly glass which will turn into sand, whereas Plastic does not become sand it becomes microplastics so no it is not the same

Newsflash: It already is in our food, water and ecosystem. This isn’t going to accelerate it. Just make it so we can control it better.

@@blahblah2779 Burning it in a propper incinerator is a better way to control it. Adding microplastics in a bag to the environment is not a way to control it... the bag tears and boom bunch of microplastics all over the place. Resulting in More microplastics in our food water and ecosystem.

This is spot on anyone trying to defend these people are completely whacked out

Fibreglass is fire resistant .

@@typicalrockhound9887 this is just a simple and easy fix for things like refugee camps, those camps clearly cannot get fiberglass and fire would be their least worry because the insulation would be covered by a material which I am not sure what it is, anyways you lose your point is bad

And this micro plastic will get into your food and water

@@MYA0017 Its not a bad point at all. I bet this stuff can do major damage if it catches fire. Not to mention, if its only for temporary use, then you now converted the plastic to micro plastic .

It burns. Owens Corning does not

That's actually pretty interesting. Is the cellulose acetate used today, or did they scrap that idea? If so, what do they use as filters then? As a smoker I wonder if I would even be able to taste that peppery flavor lol.

@@spleenforsoul cellulose acetate is still used.

You should contact Tiny Homes developers about your thoughts/. PERFECT IDEA* COMMENT OF THE DAY AWARD 🏆

Why would you want to live in a microplastic Box

@@hillslide If it's in my body already I see little difference, be one with the microplastics you know.

Its just an accident waiting to happen, people putting this stuff into their walls, all it takes is some exposed polyfloss and some tinder, its like a ticking time bomb.

guess we'll see how durable the fireproof encasing is. dont really have much options if ur living in a poor a$$ country.

It's not highly flammable, it is flammable. And this is exactly the same as the stuff in duvets, pillows, mattresses, padded coats, sleeping bags etc etc, I'm sure it's fine flammability wise.

What are we supposed to do with all the plastic that already exists then?

Vaporize it, dump it all in one location, literally anything but continuing to use it.

You realize a massive percentage of modern medicine, cutting edge science, space exploration, and clean energy, were all made possible by innovation in plastics? Most of the things in your house, the electronics you use, the very device you’re watching this video on, none of it would be possible without plastics.

Hopefully you mean single use plastics, as plastic is a very important material. One example of millions, how would you replace water/sewage pipes so it is cheap enough for the majority of people to have access to both utilities?

And I don’t care. We need to move past plastic. If you defend keeping plastic you’re defending harming the environment.

The world uses Celsius. Any time you hear people from around the world speaking of temperature we're using C unless it's Kelvin and then we're still using C. What would be nice is US content creators providing more than one measurement.

All 22 in Syria lol