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We'll show you how a motorcycle transmission works using an open fixture and small electric motor. You'll see a motorcycle transmission shifting and changing gear ratios
After you watched our moving transmission. You will have a better understanding about how a motorcycle transmission works.
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Hi Gordon “The Tool Guy” here. Today we're going to talk about a motorcycle transmission.
This is a constant mesh transmission. What it means is that the gears are always in mesh. They don't slide in and out like a synchromesh this is constants.
What happens is we use dogs here. These are gear dogs, they slide in and out of accompanying gears. To engage the driven shaft, to the out put shaft.
The clutch basket turns here, so that when the engine is moving, it's actually moving this shaft right here, it forces the power through, and depending on what gear set we have we will have a power ratio determined by the drive gear and the driven gear.
This is what we call a shift fork. We've got three of them in this transmission. This is a six speed. We've got a shift fork for the different sets. These shift forks are controlled by this shift drum.
This is the shift drum. The reason motorcycles goes from a first neutral second and third in sequence. Is because this rotates, clockwise or counter-clock wise. And in doing so, it controls and make the movement of the forks so that only one gear is chosen at a time.
You can imagine different gear ratios and what would happen. You'll have an exploding transmission. So this not only moves and changes the gear, it also controls where the other two are in the cycle.
The shift drum is turned by this ratcheting mechanism this ratcheting actually comes on the outside and as we turn it, we're moving it one notch. We let it go, we move it again. It's actually turning.
This controls the movement of the gears. Up one or down one. This is the shift mechanism.
Of course our transmission runs in the bottom of the crank case. They love oil so the first thing we're going to do is we're going to lubricate this transmission.
This is neutral Of course this is the drive train this is what drives the back wheel.
This is neutral you can tell that the imput shaft is turning while the output shaft is still.
First thing we're going to do, is I'm going to put this in first gear. Watch as I move the fork. You can see here the shaft is turning.
That was first. What we'll do now is that we'll go into second. Now we see second gear engaged. We'll go back into neutral. We're going to go into third. We'll go into fourth.
There fourth gear. Now we're going to go into fifth. And lastly we can go into sixth. Ok now, we're going to slide it back into neutral.
Thanks for watching we ask that you share, like and comment. Join us soon for the assembly of the Yamaha TTR225

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Комментарии : 188   
@veteq101
@veteq101 7 лет назад
Never seem a motorcycle gearbox explained so well. Now I know what is happening everytime I shift gears. Thanks for taking your time to put this video together.
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Thanks for the comment. I'm glad you were able to find us.
@Indian_ghost-carrier.1992
@Indian_ghost-carrier.1992 Год назад
Last 2 gear ratio is not correct
@luclaviolette6612
@luclaviolette6612 7 лет назад
Finally, someone made the best motorcycle transmission video. Thank you!
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Thanks Luc! We appreciate your time to watch and comment.
@luvstruck2733
@luvstruck2733 7 лет назад
Great video, very well done illustration of how the transmissions work. You spoke in clear and concise terms, pulling it all together, and making it easy to understand.
@Indian_ghost-carrier.1992
@Indian_ghost-carrier.1992 Год назад
Last 2 gear ratio is not correct
@popup1959
@popup1959 7 лет назад
Great explanation on the constant mesh gear box. Real nice display box.
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Thanks for watching and commenting. I wanted to demonstrate how simple these really are.
@popup1959
@popup1959 7 лет назад
You nailed it for sure!
@MattyT_86
@MattyT_86 7 лет назад
Great vid but the music is distracting
@Indian_ghost-carrier.1992
@Indian_ghost-carrier.1992 Год назад
03:16 5 gear ratio is 1.08=1 But 6 gear ratio is incorrect 29=23 is 1.26=1 6 gear incorrect ratio please check it
@robertanthonyfarrell
@robertanthonyfarrell 7 лет назад
Good job explaining and thanks for taking the time to put your demo box together
@ayushrocker02
@ayushrocker02 7 лет назад
Great demonstration. Seriously helpful for learning how it works👌
@cesarcarlosballao5127
@cesarcarlosballao5127 7 лет назад
thank you for this very educational video
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
You are very welcome. I'm glad you found it helpful Gordon/RTS
@InvincibleExtremes
@InvincibleExtremes 7 лет назад
thanks for taking the effort to built that box and edit a good video. it was awesome
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Thanks for your kind words and taking the time to post them. I'm glad you liked it. Gordon/RTS
@chanakyasinha8046
@chanakyasinha8046 6 лет назад
Wow wow wow 😍😍😍 great effort is required in understanding the transmission, but u made it easy, i wonder how the inventor imagined it 🤔🤔
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 6 лет назад
Thanks for the comments!
@traxxasrcfun
@traxxasrcfun 7 лет назад
everyone is on here saying how great the explanation was, but I'm still confused as shit lol I kinda get it
@eccentricdetectorists9754
@eccentricdetectorists9754 7 лет назад
dakota croasdale Same & I've been wrenching on panhead's for a living for over a decade.
@chanakyasinha8046
@chanakyasinha8046 6 лет назад
Wait and watch untill u form a clear picture inside ur mind 😹
@Nobody-zq8bl
@Nobody-zq8bl 5 лет назад
There are better videos on the basics of how a 2 shaft transmission works which shows a dotted line for the path the force takes across gears. STart with that one and come back here to see the 6 different "gears"
@rogeronslow1498
@rogeronslow1498 7 лет назад
Great demonstration. Thanks for making the effort.
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Thanks for commenting!
@terencemeehan8237
@terencemeehan8237 7 лет назад
Thanks, that was very cool, one picture (or video) is worth a thousand words.
@ReaIDeaI1
@ReaIDeaI1 7 лет назад
Thank you for making this only 3 1/2 minutes!!! I've seen some videos about this topic nearing 30 minutes or greater and I don't have the patience for that!
@jagadeeshbabuk7914
@jagadeeshbabuk7914 5 лет назад
I love this video and clear explanation..thank you sir from India..
@orgami100
@orgami100 7 лет назад
Thanks for your bench setup explanation. ..
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Jason, you're very welcome.
@popup1959
@popup1959 7 лет назад
I remember watching this one. That's a lot of views! Nice!
@humble7958
@humble7958 7 лет назад
super cool..the most clear demo so far i see about this kind..
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Thanks for the comments!
@davidblackwell6914
@davidblackwell6914 6 лет назад
Thanks for the explanation and demonstration!
@RikuIshmaru
@RikuIshmaru 6 лет назад
Great vid, thanks for putting in the gear ratios! Not sure why hearing the hum and watching the spin is so comforting lol
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 6 лет назад
Thanks for commenting Kouga! Gordon/RTS
@SqueakyNeb
@SqueakyNeb 7 лет назад
super cool to see all the working parts directly one nitpick though: you noted that bike transmissions are constant mesh, "not like a synchromesh". Car transmissions are also constant mesh, but with splines (protected by synchromesh) instead of dogs. The shifting mechanism is otherwise pretty similar.
@sethadam4266
@sethadam4266 7 лет назад
Great video, blows my mind.
@Mountain_Paladin
@Mountain_Paladin 7 лет назад
Thank you for demonstrating that it was very educational. As I've never went into an atv's transmission it has always been a bit mysterious to me. Your showing enlightened my perspective.
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Thanks for commenting. Gordon/RTS
@JahanZeb1976
@JahanZeb1976 7 лет назад
Excellent explanation ever on the motorbike transmission! Such nice explanation videos are always welcome. Great video uploaded. Regards,
@GopiGopi-cs8ig
@GopiGopi-cs8ig 6 лет назад
LearningZone
@brijesh7eq
@brijesh7eq 7 лет назад
Great explanation n representation,good to see your contents.
@v.sayerajshekhar9288
@v.sayerajshekhar9288 3 года назад
Finally bro got the Excellent video which i was searching for since a long time..🤟🤟
@imperialfragments
@imperialfragments 7 лет назад
great visual demo of how trans works. thx
@MatthewTaylorAu
@MatthewTaylorAu 7 лет назад
Thx for posting. Wanted to see that black grooved shaft which controls the gear selectors better.
@tylercarder581
@tylercarder581 5 лет назад
Awesome!!!!! Thank you so much
@StaticVapour590
@StaticVapour590 6 лет назад
Wow, now i understand.. It's like 10 times smaller than cars gearbox, still the same basic idea.. Great video
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 5 лет назад
Thanks for commenting Dub!
@nomad91910
@nomad91910 7 лет назад
2:34 "I'm going to put it in 1st gear" (transmission falls apart) well, speaking of reliability hahaha
@flowerofash4439
@flowerofash4439 3 года назад
Hahaha the meshing between the dog gear and the free willing gear is what concern me of the durability of this mechanism
@92gashaulass43
@92gashaulass43 7 лет назад
Very helpfull dude!thanks!
@letsshareknowledge7197
@letsshareknowledge7197 4 года назад
Good understanding...by me...one small query for 5th and 6th gear you wrote wrongly(changed)the number of teeths in driver and driven as eg.for 5th gear 25 for driven and 27 for driver..instead of that you displayed 25 for driver and 27 for driven...I got confused with did and checked all other gear ratios and got cleared...but all the way great realistic model explanation...
@slvrscoobie
@slvrscoobie 7 лет назад
Good explanation of constant meet, but I already knew that, I wanted to know more about the gear selection and how that engages the dog teeth
@homebuilthappiness2919
@homebuilthappiness2919 3 года назад
Thank you so much. I was on the interstate with my project bike and I had it stall. I was coasting in neutral and it about 27-29mph I tried to pop it into second so I could attempt a rolling start and got that loud gearbox "KA-THUNK" because it wasn't synced and thought, "what the hell is actually happening in there?". Now I know
@ZenoFromTheElea
@ZenoFromTheElea 6 лет назад
Yes, great demonstration.
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 6 лет назад
Thanks for the kind comment!
@freddier.leliza8382
@freddier.leliza8382 6 лет назад
nice info sir, keep it up!
@lpd1snipe
@lpd1snipe 7 лет назад
Good demonstration.
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Thanks for commenting - RTS
@kanchankondhare
@kanchankondhare 7 лет назад
Thanku sir great Things
@hendywijaya2866
@hendywijaya2866 4 года назад
thank you . this video is very helpful
@sugardaddy9721
@sugardaddy9721 3 года назад
Am I right to assume that overtime the Dog gear will wear out because of the friction between the dogs gear teeth and the socket?
@bukenyachristopher4308
@bukenyachristopher4308 Год назад
Thanks man your the best
@theindianvlogger6572
@theindianvlogger6572 7 лет назад
great job
@vinnyozorio1782
@vinnyozorio1782 5 лет назад
Excellent explanation.. Am I to understand that then to have 7 or 8 gears I will basically require a different selector drum (Extra gears of course) BTW why are the lower gears on the end of the shafts ? (less torque or stronger to stop bearing wear.)
@smithwesson4874
@smithwesson4874 7 лет назад
great details
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Thanks S&W!
@DOCTOR6423
@DOCTOR6423 5 лет назад
Excellent From Pakistan
@joshualoperez694
@joshualoperez694 4 года назад
Nice.
@Pertamax7-HD
@Pertamax7-HD 7 лет назад
nice sir
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Thanks!
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 7 лет назад
Anyone familiar with a (1975-1992) watercooled engine Volkswagen 020 gearbox (golf/rabbit/Jetta/scirocco)will notice some similarities between it and a motorcycle gearbox. Hollow mainshaft for the clutch pushrod, and the shift drum mainly. That would be kickass to machine up a sequential shift drum somehow,some way.
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 7 лет назад
MrTheHillfolk Why was it watercooled? racing?
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 7 лет назад
dimmacommunication Oops I'm sorry sir. I meant the watercooled Volkswagens made after 1975 or so, like the Vw golf (rabbit in America) and Jetta. We had the first gen of watercooled vws here from 75-84, the second generation hit in 85 and went till 92. 93 on up they changed gearbox styles. But yea the old 020 Vw box was pretty stout for its size too. It weighs like 75 pounds, and guys would have 250-300hp 16 valve vws back in the day(mid/late 80s) and they would handle it. And I edited the original post, so hopefully I cleared up any future confusion
@Indian_ghost-carrier.1992
@Indian_ghost-carrier.1992 Год назад
Please tell me 5th 6th gear are not correct please tell me
@hominhchi
@hominhchi 7 лет назад
Wow, that is awesome. Now you're done explaining to us how the moto. transmission works. May I have the transmission pls? that is cool. thk for the vid!
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Well......we're going to play with the bike for a few weeks and then find it a new home. Thanks for your comments. Gordon/RTS
@karigreyd2808
@karigreyd2808 7 лет назад
Most transmissions are constant mesh with syncros.
@blaraxx
@blaraxx 7 лет назад
great explanation demo gear working.
@neomeg2232
@neomeg2232 6 лет назад
All that time spent building the fixture but you couldn't throw the snap ring on the countershaft to keep the sprocket on? 🤣 Still helped me explain it to the girlfriend though. Many thanks. 👍
@nightster6378
@nightster6378 5 лет назад
Hi, can you tell me do the gears train and clutch run in the oil and if so what level do they run? Is it to the centre line of the gear shaft. Thanks
@maximilianvonerb9591
@maximilianvonerb9591 6 лет назад
great video
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 5 лет назад
Again, thanks for your comments.
@71nortcomm
@71nortcomm 7 лет назад
Hey, maybe you can answer one of my pet peeves. On my old Brit bikes when you get to top gear you can lift the lever rather the lever being locked in place in the lower gears. On new bikes the lever is locked in place no matter what. I like the old arrangement better because I know when I'm out of gears without pulling the clutch in. Why is it different now?
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
I can't help on this answer. While I'd guess it had to do with the detent system used on the different bikes, I have never been inside one of the British bikes like the Norton, BSA, or Triumph. Thanks for commenting....Gordon/RTS
@ikc.lifestyle
@ikc.lifestyle 6 лет назад
Great video. Do you know what causes the racheat meachanisinm to slide inward toward the trans housing?
@MotorClassics
@MotorClassics 7 лет назад
Useful vid but would have been nice if you explain how power is transfered the the shafts and why gears jump out or wont select...youd done 80% and missed 20.
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
JB, I would love to show you that, but don't have the parts I'd need. I've only had 1 transmission out of the 50 or so I've been into that had the dogs chewed off, broken, or sheared off. It had a bent shift fork too - all excellent signs of abuse. The rear motor mount nearest to the front sprocket was broken too from repeated 7,000 rpm launches. I tossed that transmission into the scrap years ago and later used the crankcases for fabricating engine mounts and expansion chambers in my H2 (Kawasaki Mach IV) hotrod/drag bike. You can see and read about the bike in the articles section of my website. A picture of the crankcase is there too. Look for "2 Stroke Exhaust in the menu". Thanks for commenting Gordon/RTS
@rapierstorm213
@rapierstorm213 6 лет назад
Great video!!
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 6 лет назад
Thanks Ben!
@babjihanumanthu
@babjihanumanthu 6 лет назад
wow excelent sir thanq
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 6 лет назад
Thanks for the good comment! Gordon/RTS
@richlozeau1665
@richlozeau1665 4 года назад
Great! Thanks!
@chanduaruri8866
@chanduaruri8866 7 лет назад
good information
@Indian_ghost-carrier.1992
@Indian_ghost-carrier.1992 Год назад
Last 6 gear are incorrect,,,,
@Bass.Player
@Bass.Player 7 лет назад
How does the shift drum engage the shift forks in this set-up? Is it just the way you have this set-up for display because the shift drum can not engage the forks like this?
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Hi BP, as you've already noted, in real world, a single shift drum would drive/control both pairs of shift forks. The shafts that the forks slide on would be rotated and moved closer to each other. I separated them in this fixture for demonstration only to show how each ration changes and the vital roles the drum and forks play in our constant mesh transmissions. Thanks for the comments! Gordon/RTS
@saeedulhaleem6070
@saeedulhaleem6070 6 лет назад
very good
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 6 лет назад
Thanks for commenting Saeed! Gordon/RTS
@SunilSundar
@SunilSundar 5 лет назад
When you're at rest and going from neutral to first, and both shafts are stationary, if the dogs are not aligned with the slots, how do you shift?
@3niknicholson
@3niknicholson 5 лет назад
If both shafts are stationary, then your engine is off and the bike is not moving. To go from neutral to first in this case, you will need to move the bike slightly while pressing on the gear lever in the required direction.
@amandaballance4546
@amandaballance4546 5 лет назад
great video thanks. got a problem with my quad gearbox ,it works on dogs and cogs.2 3 4 5 all work fine,5 speed. 1st and reverse which i think are conected as you can only select reverse when in 1st gear. when you engage sounds like the cogs /gears are spinning but not meshed together so no drive.can you help thanks.
@joshcrosson
@joshcrosson 7 лет назад
Was that an actual motorcycle transmission gear set, or is that a scaled down model?
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Yes, this is the Yamaha TTR225 6 speed transmission. Thanks for commenting Gordon/RTS
@DracolegacyOfficial
@DracolegacyOfficial 6 лет назад
where can i get one?
@ajkalwaysneedsmoreinfo.576
@ajkalwaysneedsmoreinfo.576 7 лет назад
Now i understand how they work but where does the muffler bearing go again.
@D3AThCAl2DS
@D3AThCAl2DS 7 лет назад
ask Audi lol
@ajkalwaysneedsmoreinfo.576
@ajkalwaysneedsmoreinfo.576 7 лет назад
Nice lol
@syedsameer1990
@syedsameer1990 7 лет назад
very tedious thing very nicely explained
@emreevo8
@emreevo8 7 лет назад
You don't use a clutch here but you can shift gears. So can't we shift gears without a clutch when riding a motorcycle?
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Emre, many of the moto-x racers use the clutch for launching, to raise RPM like when coming off a corner - many don't use the clutch during shifts. . They "load" the shifter with foot pressure up or down and blip the throttle to remove the drive torque. In drag racing, the shifter is often tied to an ignition disrupter and even an air cylinder to quickly move the shifter in the split-second interruption of spark. All of this comes at the expense of wear and tear. Those guys have no problem rebuilding and replacing every component every other race. Wear and Tear is why we use a clutch. If you ask shift forks and sliding gear dogs to engage while under loads - you will get high wear, chipped teeth, and frequent replacements are the only fix. The old saying - "burn a candle at both ends and it last half as long". Thanks for commenting. Gordon/RTS
@davescopes249
@davescopes249 7 лет назад
I know how it works on my CR250 Motocross bike. 1st gear front wheel up off the ground. same with the other 4 gears. simple. Lol
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Yea, I only wish this little TTR225 and it's 16 horsepower had that problem!
@brayvdb2191
@brayvdb2191 7 лет назад
I've always thought 1&2 3&4 5&6 we're 'separate' inside. Because 1&2 have a different sound to them 3&4 are my most fluent gears and as I get to fifth I sometimes get into a false neutral or it goes in halfway but then drops out of the gear when I'm driving and makes an awful sound.
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Jay Bee, there are a couple of things that could be causing this. I would first check to see if your bike's transmission has an "eccentric adjustment" for the shift return spring. This "centers" the shifter and means you'll have a full stroke each time the shifter is moved up and down. Not all bikes have the eccentric, but it's an easy adjustment once the engine cover and clutch components are removed. It could also have a weak centering spring (less than $10 part). Second is the shift fork - if one is bent, it can't move the dogs to engage the gears (like your 5th). Shift forks are replacement items, but it does mean a tear-down to get to them. Third could be the engagement dogs themselves - if subjected to abuse over a long period, not using the clutch, of failure to fully move/engage the gears (some bikes just don't shift quickly - my CB750 was one) and slower, more deliberate shifts are best practice. This diagnosis and repair is more involved and requires a full transmission tear-down and disassembly. Gear sets can be $100 or more per pair. Thanks for commenting. Gordon/RTS
@MrAndyCarlos
@MrAndyCarlos 7 лет назад
I am having problems to change the gears. Sometimes it doesn't go easily or even it get stucked. What's he matter?
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Andy, what bike is it? I ask because some big singles have a tendency to suffer from clutch drag. If you haven't abused the clutch and transmission, then damage is not likely. The cheapest fix could be a better quality oil. I've owned 50+ motorcycles and 3 of those were just horrible when it came to finding neutral when running. Motul 7100 is just "magic" - even my big DR650 single with it's 1,500 RPM idle was a pain in the butt due to the clutch plates wanting to drag. Many times, the only way to get into neutral was to kill the engine. Motul solved that on the DR650, my Kawasaki Turbo, and my KZ900 - all were buttery smooth after a simple oil change. Now, you could have bent or worn shift forks, improperly adjusted shifter spring, damaged shifter arm/ratchet. Hope this helps - Gordon/RTS
@luislazcano5563
@luislazcano5563 7 лет назад
saludos desde chile
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Greetings from the United States - hope you have a Merry Christmas - and a happy New Year Saludos desde Estados Unidos - Espero que tengas un Feliz navidad - y un feliz año Nuevo
@Mprikiman
@Mprikiman 7 лет назад
RTS, I own a semi-auto wet clutch 110c honda cycle with 4 gears. It's a city oriented motorcycle that's why the low displacement and extremely short gear ratios. Do you think it's possible (besides changing chain gearing) to add a 5th gear in this type of gearboxes?
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Hi M, I have owned 3 Honda 90cc machines and still own 2 of those. I believe your 110 is built on the same platform. These engines have been around since the mid 1960's, they are rock-solid and proven. In fact, mine are a 1966 Super 90 and a 1969 CT90 (Trail 90). They have also always been 4-speeds as far as I know. I don't think the parts would exist to make the conversion. The gear sets in these are narrow and the shafts those ride on are short as are the case-halves quite narrow, so I don't know of any parts available to do this. Thanks for your comments - Gordon/RTS
@yammamasofat1606
@yammamasofat1606 7 лет назад
Nice box, needs to be worded better on the explanation side though.
@Anthony-qh1xv
@Anthony-qh1xv 3 года назад
is it reliable?
@200xcBruce
@200xcBruce 7 лет назад
Is it just me or were you running in reverse? Output countershaft was running CW.
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Bruce...Busted! Yes, the rotation is backward of what you'd have in real life. Two reasons for the the wrong direction - First, the coupling I used for the input shaft would have "un threaded" if turned counter-clockwise, Second, with the input shaft not secured to the block - the shaft assembly would raise and come out of mesh with the output shaft. I did try it, but turning it "left" was not working. Thanks for keeping me honest and commenting! Gordon/RTS
@200xcBruce
@200xcBruce 7 лет назад
no worries I just thought I was seeing things
@blohmymind
@blohmymind 7 лет назад
Surely you've labelled you teeth numbers the wrong way around in 5th and 6th gear. The ratios go below 1:1 but the teeth numbers don't correspond.
@praveenlokesh4107
@praveenlokesh4107 6 лет назад
How u say that gear teeth and gear ratio??
@obtron
@obtron 4 года назад
How does gear dogs slide in when speeds are mismatched
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 4 года назад
Leo, that's the nice thing about "constant mesh" transmissions - the gears are always meshed. Have a look in the Articles section of my website and you'll find a detailed explanation of this design. The only thing that the drum has to do is engage the two shafts which are the same size and when the clutch is pulled or the throttle "blipped" removes the side load and allows the forks to easily move the "dogs" in place. Check it out - and I'm glad you asked! Gordon
@amittvishwakarma
@amittvishwakarma 7 лет назад
show what is a different between 5 speed transmission and 6 speed transmission
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Amit, just picture the demonstration without that the "pair" of gears you see labeled "6" in the demonstration. A 5- speed transmission will look and function the same as this 6 speed, just minus 1 pair of front/rear gear set. Most 5-speeds use 2 shift forks in stead of 3 like this one, but again the functions are the same, If you'll send me an email through the website, I'll send you photos of a 5 speed and diagram what the differences look like. I can't post photos here. Thanks for commenting - Gordon/RTS
@broderp
@broderp 5 лет назад
I saw no real difference in output speed until 5th gear. I have yet to find a video to explain with a proper demonstration how the shift lever/drum works.
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 4 года назад
Thanks for the comments. You're almost right - there is very little difference between 5th and 6th. 5th is .9:1 (point 9:1) while 6th is just .8:1 (point 8:1) so just 10%. If you visit my website and the Articles Page, I have an article there with lots of detailed drawings and explanations of how all this works. It will show you how all the numbers and transfer of power works along with that drum - all in plain, clear, english. I hope I've been a help to you. Gordon
@Thesaviorsway
@Thesaviorsway 5 лет назад
Took me 3 times to see that the gears are already connected but the output shaft is non moving the rotation unless you are clicking in place with the dogs sliding in but the same time the dogs inner gears have to slide along the output shaft since they are solid with it how is it possible? The dogs don't slide left or right into place unless you move forward or backward the drum that's connected to the shifter going up or down)
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 5 лет назад
Hi Alex, Yes - all of the "gear pairs" (front and rear) are always meshed. This is why almost all motorcycle transmissions are referred to as Constant Mesh. The shift forks move the dogs in/out of engagement. The shift drum has the very important job of controlling those shift forks so that 2 different ratios are never engaged at the same time. The dogs are the heavy blocks with side-facing cogs that slide into the toothed gear pairs. Those dogs are splined to the shaft with splines and simply slide side to side by the forks. The gear being engaged free-wheels on the shaft without the dog's engagement. If this doesn't happen, the transmission does what we call explode and cannot live. Let me know if this helps, if not I'll try to explain more. Thanks for commenting! Gordon
@Thesaviorsway
@Thesaviorsway 5 лет назад
@@RRRToolSolutions1 so the shifting is seamless and smooth unlike the one in a manual car transmission the clutch is needed to disengage the teeth. And a bicycle has a similar mechanism of rolling the chain on and off each sprocket kind of like the motorcycle except the motorcycle has the same sprocket and never moves because the gear ratios shift side to side instead of the chain itself... this leads to me the question why does the chain suffer so much abuse then unlike a bicycle I see metal shavings or gunk debree, needs to constantly tighten every several hundred miles and lubed with special oil? Why is there also a slack of 3/4 inch needed if the bike is not having the chain move out of gear or why the chain would sling off?
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 5 лет назад
Alex, the exposed drive chain has to live and operate in one of the worst environments ever imagined. Dirt roads, paved road debris, small rocks, grit, and water all find their way to the chain. This is just like sandpaper wearing down everything that it touches. While lubricants, especially those having wax to hold the lubricant in-place do act to hold the contaminants in-place also. We have to lube though as it reduces wear more than a dry chain will. The slack is needed so the rollers do not bind in the sprocket peaks/valleys. Chances are that your front (counter shaft) sprocket is not in the center of your swingarm pivot - rarely is this brilliant geometry used. As the bike's rear suspension goes through it's travel, the distance between the front and rear sprockets "center" changes. In the case of dirt bikes (those with more travel), those distances can be very significant. You'll see spring-loaded chain tension devices there to keep excess slack from fouling the chain. Gordon
@luislazcano5563
@luislazcano5563 7 лет назад
Hello my friend. The video ...
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Hola mi amigo - Gracias por el comentario Hello my friend - Thanks for the comment
@ffejkk37
@ffejkk37 6 лет назад
So when a transmission is failing, what parts are causing the noise? My bike makes a loud click/clunk sound when changing gears, what am I actually hearing?
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 6 лет назад
Jeff, what make/model of bike? Is the noise worse when going from Neutral to First than when going to Second, Third, and so on? This matters, so the questions....Thanks, Gordon
@ffejkk37
@ffejkk37 6 лет назад
RRR Tool Solutions 864-710-7964. Thanks for the fast response! It's a 2012 BMW G650GS. The click from neutral to first is most noticeable but it doesn't always make the sound. Shifting from first to second and third makes less of a sound and doesn't feel as "stiff" while shifting in to a higher gear The entire shifting process isn't as smooth as other bikes I've rode, but some say this is just the way BMW motorcycles are and not be concerned. After watching your video I was thinking the noise is from the gears wacking together or not aligning smoothly. Thanks for any and all feedback!
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 6 лет назад
Jeff, I've had the same problem with different bikes. You've got a big single that needs to idle at a higher RPM than most twins, triples, and fours. The culprit is your clutch - not your transmission. There is an easy fix - Large singles deliver their power all at once which means the combination of clutch diameter and number of plates be robust. This fact and the higher idle rpm often result in a "dragging clutch" that keeps the transmission input shaft loaded in neutral and when going in gear. Simply put - the fiber disc and steel plates stay "stuck" together or at least partially engaged. My 650 single has this issue too. The perfect solution would be to somehow mechanically separate each disc and plate at each clutch pull, but that's hard to do. Some bikes have metal wave washers, others have rubber V-rings between every metal plate - both intended to force separation of the disc and plates as the lever is pulled. The compression springs overcome these of course as the lever is released. Even these have their failures and don't solve the dragging entirely. Solution? Try it before you comment. I swear it has fixed every shift complaint I've had and really makes the operation of the transmission/clutch near perfect. Finding neutral is greatly improved in most cases. Motul 10-W40 Synthetic 7100. I have been using it exclusively in all of my 4-stroke bikes for years since that first change. It really works. Gordon
@ffejkk37
@ffejkk37 6 лет назад
RRR Tool Solutions 864-710-7964 that's a great answer! It really makes sense too, and also helps me understand why this can be considered "normal". Thanks for the advice!
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 6 лет назад
Jeff, let us hear how the change in lubrication affects your shifting, finding neutral, and the noise levels as gear selections are made. Thanks for commenting! Gordon/RTS
@benzmercedies1580
@benzmercedies1580 6 лет назад
i like it
@viniciuss.soares5527
@viniciuss.soares5527 7 лет назад
Got it.
@belalhussien9498
@belalhussien9498 2 месяца назад
isn't the alignment 1 5 3 4 6 2 ?
@gdavies198
@gdavies198 7 лет назад
1994 / 1996 3.4 Clyde
@jitendragonna8640
@jitendragonna8640 7 лет назад
can u put video how does a clutch works
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Hey, we have one just for you and others who want to see the parts and how they work - Thanks for asking! ru-vid.com?o=U&video_id=us8ZQNusg4g Gordon/RTS
@The-truth-is-valuable.
@The-truth-is-valuable. Год назад
I do not think the extreme Jazz music is assisting very much whilst trying to listen to you and "learning".
@onegraham
@onegraham 7 лет назад
Ditch the music next time, otherwise great video.
@reidschwartzentruber8207
@reidschwartzentruber8207 7 лет назад
im so fed up I cant get youtube to load anything, I have great internet yet for some reason I cannot use it. All devices on my network are fine except mine. I have no idea how to fix it and its ruining my life
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Sorry for the problems you're having, but I can barely turn a computer on and get around the web. You might try a local shop with a good reputation to help. RTS
@frankosmith6718
@frankosmith6718 5 лет назад
Very interesting, but why do these people who post these Videos but nauseating background music which only distracts you from the narrative?
@funnyme9001
@funnyme9001 7 лет назад
very nice. now i know. but in the first gear sprckt fall i hope it doesnt happen in real life. haha
@Dan-qp1el
@Dan-qp1el 7 лет назад
Good video.......except for the music?
@RRRToolSolutions1
@RRRToolSolutions1 7 лет назад
Thanks!
@WholesaleTurbos
@WholesaleTurbos 7 лет назад
then, you have guys who thrash the clutch shifting.
@mike87364
@mike87364 3 года назад
Great video Kill the music
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