How a Tweet Helps Solve a Huge Mystery about Miquella | Elden Ring Lore Theory 

Hope the sword is called Excalibur and has the Beam skill

It's Bedivere.

I mean the dlc is about fate

EXCALIBAAAA

Saberwulf?!

Jesus. If the Fingers would reject even Demigods, then Miquella's efforts make even more sense, and look even better on him. Just like the lowly Albinauric, like all the Misbegottens, he's a reject. Just like them. Makes me tear up a lil bit, lol.

​@@kite2036well malenia is infected by another gods power that wants to make her their vessel so that makes perfect sense seeing as the fingers are like the avatar of the outer god of the erd tree \ golden order The gods are probably in conflict hence rykards plan to devour them all If they teamed up they would rule absolutely but because they are all against eachother the story happens as it does

Fr wolfs show up a FUCKTON in this game Even the armor from the trailer is called the raging wolf set , and how many old bosses and wolf and dog enemies are there ? So so so fkn many I'm surprised we didn't fight a white dire wolf in the snow area tbh 😂

Completely fair! Miyazaki did say he didn't even want to mention certain boss names because they would be a spoiler. Though it is possible she could turn into a wolf as she goes mad (a la Vicar Amelia in Bloodborne).

@@garrulousgoldmaskThe way I see it, Malenia and Miquella didn’t ever get shadows, and Malenia and Miquella agreed on who was going to be who, miquella being the actual empyrean, while Malenia played as the shadow. Although, when malenia was put into a coma, she couldn’t serve as the shadow, so Miquella chose replacement shadows, which could possibly be this woman. It’d explain why he wasn’t with malenia, he probably couldn’t wait for her to wake up, so he just picked his other best soldiers, and left.

That's just From's default tarnished outfit

But shadows don't have an actual own will. They can still be ordered to kill their emperyan at any time. The golden order wouldn't have any control over you if you were the shadow.

​@Romapolitan Which would make Miquella unique and stand out from the other demigods since the tarnished doesn't need to follow the golden order. You'll likely be able to choose to become his shadow or not

That is a great theory! I wonder if Marika had to sacrifice an eye to become the “vision’s vessel” of the Elden Ring. (That would also fit in with the common archetype of a prophet being blind but being able to “see” the future or the true nature of reality.) And the Soreseals/Scarseals are also called eyes, with one of them at Miquella's Haligtree. It's quite possible Miquella is missing an eye since we don't really get a clear view of his face (including in all the trailers for Shadow of the Erdtree).

All of the Empyreans left eyes have a mark over them, like Melina. That's their "brand" confirming them an Empyrean and why the game goes out of the way to NOT show any of the Empyrean's eyes. Many agree Melina is some form the of the Gloam Eye'd Queen, and it would make sense for her to have a "claw" for a brand that represents death. Melina is also "chimera" and people used to think women who had two eyes with two colors were witches. You can see Ranni's mark also, although it's hard to make out. It's some sort of astral galaxy thing. I am guessing that Miquella's is a "lily" or some sort of entwined circle. Messmer is NOT an Empyrean, but I think you find more about why that is in the DLC. I don't think the person covering their right eye with the sword is a "shadow" as they are not a wolf. The armor is very clear on that. If you have ever followed "Berserk" then you know what she is and have an idea of what will happen to all of Miquella's followers. I think that person will have a brand for another reason. Go read up on Berserk/Griffith if you get the chance.

If Malenia could read this comment she would be very upset.

I think missing the left eye represents divesting yourself if your flesh. This is a way that Empyreans are able to shed the influence of grace from themselves. I don’t think missing an eye is exclusive to empyreans though

Definitely! The androgyny seems like a very deliberate choice (and just in time for Pride too!) The GSGS is one of my favorite weapons in terms of lore and gameplay so I'm always glad to invoke it! And I’ve been going with the theory that “Gloam-Eyed Queen” is a title, like “Elden Lord,” which would mean there are multiple GEQs throughout history. So even Vargram might not have been able to serve the GEQ the one that was defeated by Maliketh, he could have served her successor.

@@garrulousgoldmask It would be cool if the "Gloam-Eyed Queen" turned out to be a title rather than only one particular person, if that's true then Vagram could definitely have met one of them! I think that she may well have a few parallels with Rennala, the one mentioned could also be the last in her line of Queens. Hopefully the DLC will give us more details about her/them.

Maybe that's because they were created during the time before the golden age. Maybe the newer shadows for miquella/malenia can be human?

@@FartsHaveATaste Sure, that's an interesting idea, but then why would Marika's Shadow be a Beast? Maliketh is probably the oldest of them all.

@Solibrae Because she's the oldest of them all. Beasts are of the crucible they left behind in the shadow lands. Hence being their "shadows" 😵

It's a really fascinating (and fun) weapon! The spiral pattern also reminds me of the Sacred Relic Sword that Radagon got turned into and I explored some of the theories behind the sword in my GEQ video.

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@@TheGate777 Basically, throughout the entire game Miquella has been "guiding" us. We are following in his footsteps, and he is awaiting his "promised lord". He also supplied us with Torrent and the spirit caller bell to help with our travels. Plus, they always show the main character in trailers wearing the Wolf armor. Kinda sus.

Oh for sure! I'm actually doing an entire video on all of the lore that was cut from 1.00 and that is one of the points I stress. It's definitely not canon any more. But what makes it more complicated is that there are also cases where FromSoft made the game's lore a bit more mysterious and less obvious. So when it comes to a pretty drastic rewrite like Loretta's set, the million-rune question is asking if this done because the underlying lore was completely changed? Or did FromSoft think it provided too much information? Like a lot of the lore, it's left up to interpretation and you outlined some great reasons for why Radagon might be opposed. Personally, I still think there are good reasons to think that Miquella, at least at one point, had been seen as Marika's heir, since you can find Marika's Soreseal at the Haligtree as well as the spell Triple Ring of Light, was a gift from Miquella to Radagon.

yeah I guess the tragedy is he thinks it's a noble affair but he could never truly be one not knowing their purpose.

Great question (and an even better username)! I'm assuming the kill switch functionality is part and parcel of becoming an Empyrean’s Shadow, since it's about maintaining control. That said, Vargram may have become the Shadow for the Gloam-Eyed Queen and it's unclear if she was chosen by her own Two Fingers like Ranni, Miquella, and Malenia.

@@garrulousgoldmask if im not mistaken, there an item description that states that the gloamed eye queen was chosen by her own two fingers, altho we can’t find them, you can find the information in the Black Flame Ritual incantation. Thanks for the answer!!!

@@TheAuspiciousGoldmask Yep, it's from the Black Flame Ritual spell: “The Gloam-Eyed Queen led the apostles. It is said that she was an Empyrean chosen by the Fingers.” It's hearsay that the GEQ was an Empyrean and she's the only one whose status as an Empyrean is called into question.

@@garrulousgoldmask The thing i ponder is about her origins, is she a demigod or a numen like Marika that gained the right of being the vassal of the Elden Ring (i doubt that ordinary humans can be chosen as candidate to be the vassal of the Elden Ring, under normal circunstancies). As for her status as empyrean being in question, in my point of view, i don’t see the problem, the gloamed eye queen had the potential of bringing an order, an order of death, where there is no exception on death, not even the gods, i see the gloamed eye queen being oposed to marika, bc their vision of order are like opposites, while Marika have the vision of an order that is abundant in life, where death is not the end, actually, death don’t even exist in her order, the Gloamed eye queen order would be with abundance of death, where death is the last stop, there is no reincarnation or process of being reborn again, just death, pure and immaculate. I don’t think the GEQ has any bad blood on the behalf of the Greater Will. The Greater will has chosen more questionable ppl to be and empyrean, like Malenia that harbored the god of rot inside of her, i believe of she ended up as the next vassal of the Elden Ring she would bring an Order of rot, like Gowry mentions to us, after seeing ratatoskr and Smoughtown videos on the greater will, its clear to me that the greater will don’t care what KIND of order its stablished, only that order is stablished.

You mean Casca?

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Thank you so much! That sounds like quite the endeavor-I’d love to see it when it’s ready! And yeah, wondering if something is intricate game design/subtle environmental storytelling or just apophenia/pareidolia is absolutely an occupational hazard for FromSoft lore hunting 😅

"Heresy is but a contrivance. All things can be conjoined."

Thank you so much!

Every empyrean has a shadow, which is why is why one of the bigger mysteries in the game are where malenia and miquella's are

@@Sunny-jk3pq oh gotcha, my mistake

"cursed with eternal youth" /throwsupinmouthabit ye, lol

Welcome home Ashen One. Would you like dinner, a bath...

@@baka_monogatari3389perhaps a massage

The one touching the “grace” with the gold coming out the ground. Androgynous covering one eye. Knows how to compel affection. I can’t wait til the dlc drops so I can stop with all the speculation 😂

Ok?

@@itsm9818 Passive agressive response much? How can she be a Shadow if she's not a Wolf person? Even Vagram only WANTED to be a Shadow, he wasn't really one. : p

Ooh, could be!

Might be us!

FINNALY, this comment took three tries (and this one took two).

I wonder where Radagon was before he appeared out of nowhere as Champion in Merika's Army?

Honestly, I’m kinda amazed how Gloam-Eyed Queen love triangles became pretty mainstream for Elden Ring lore theory crafting 😂

Since the DLC is going into Marika's backstory, I do hope we get more lore about Radagon! Knowing what he was doing before the Liurnian Wars could solve the major question about whether he and Marika were always one person or not.

Malenia is actually Tomoe but Sekiro didn’t have a dlc so they decided to just use some of Tomoe move set and bring it to Elden ring. That’s why the fight feels like it should be in a Sekiro game.

@@itsm9818 Actually, Zullie the Witch had a great video looking into that! While Malenia definitely feels like a Sekiro boss (especially when she was modded into the game!) she's not really a reskinned Tomoe since she doesn't use lightning and her combat style is very different from Genichiro’s.

@@itsm9818 she's not tomoe, kekw, tomoe was never suposed to exist inside the game, just in the lore. but is true that malenia is sekiro themed, the same way that the demon of hatred felt like a bloodbourne boss in sekiro, seem like its a little tradition including a boss that could have been on the previous game.

Miquella and Melania are never stated to be chosen by the two fingers... only Ranni. Melania's remembrance says they both received Empyrean status due to thier parentage.

Its not the rot or eternal youth that prevent them from getting shadows. I think they were not selected by the 2 fingers. Another one of Merika's attepts to circumvent the greater will.

Who’s to say she needed a shadow to limit her? Maybe she didn’t need/wasn’t given one cause it was at the time of the crucible?!?! 😮

@@johnathonsnape-mclean3457 But this would imply the shadows were a "control mechanism" implemented since Marika. But by whom and to whose convenience? The Elden Beast/2 Fingers? Also, the GEQ was selected by her "fingers", but it doesn't explicitly say "2 fingers". Maybe a "5 fingers"? Celestial hand?

@@redheadsilver8041 totally agree on the fingers 🤣 frenzy flame has three! What were hers? I would say the convenience of the present god if that makes sense? Frenzy, golden order so on

Apparently they are also some type of wolf

@@ericwalker6477 the question is are bloodhounds related to the shadow beasts

@@headecas good question. Maliketh seems to be more lion like which is feline so who knows lol

Good question! The Bloodhound Set tells us that they choose a master and stay loyal for life, but we also know from Darriwil that they can turn traitor. (Why he betrayed Ranni is left unclear tho I appreciate the manga’s explanation.) So I could definitely see them as potential prototypes for the Shadows the Two Fingers created.

She looks sooo fun to cosplay 😭 gl with it!

It's also possible she could be an offshoot of Marika (kinda like Malenia and Millicent, though I'm working on a separate theory involving Melina). And since Bonfire VN has the sliders, you can already get a headstart on the cosplay!

I agree

Not really you just have to clean your ears or clean your dirty phone

I got headphones on; sounds fine