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@konpeisubs
@konpeisubs 8 месяцев назад
📌 video reupload and clipping (download or screen record content, then upload on different site) full or partial is not allowed 📌 when sharing screenshots, do not crop channel name and always link back 📌 do not use my videos as ‘react’ material or green screen them
@crimm7597
@crimm7597 5 месяцев назад
Why are you so anal about react videos who cares
@zoeyc5851
@zoeyc5851 8 месяцев назад
Its sad that they use the seiyuus voice without permission and don't even credit them and instead use names of characters they've voiced. Some companies are trying to combat with, like Yuki Kaji getting a vocal synth of his voice, which helps the seiyuu and fans who want to make covers of their voices.
@sketcheroreo
@sketcheroreo 8 месяцев назад
yeah! bandori also had two vocal synths (rose and popy) released with the voice providers being vocalists of the bands!
@ponytailmoth8548
@ponytailmoth8548 8 месяцев назад
Unfortunately, this happens most of TikTok vids, not just Kaji-san’s voice used in Izana’s manga panel from Tokyo Revengers (A.i or not but it still a copyright infringement) before Izana’s V.a is Shimazaki Nobunaga (V.A of Mahito) but also others voice actors/actresses and artists too
@mayoiayasehandholder
@mayoiayasehandholder 8 месяцев назад
WAIT YUKI KAJI GOT A VOCAL SYNTH?? IDK ABT THAT 😭
@zephyrias
@zephyrias 8 месяцев назад
@@mayoiayasehandholder ;-; seems like he’s one step ahead… but vocal synths from vocaloid and other companies did it first..
@softglow9
@softglow9 8 месяцев назад
sorry to ask...but what do you mean by vocal synth and how would that help?
@leyvadira
@leyvadira 8 месяцев назад
I miss when people made UTAU Jinriki covers. Those had real effort and passion put into them. I remember hearing a lot of Osomatsu-san ones back in like 2016 and they were so good! Good times. (I know there's people who still do them but not so much and this AI stuff is everywhere + it gets a lot of clout... It's tiring.)
@Ekraelum
@Ekraelum 8 месяцев назад
I remember the days of Hetaloid. Though making unauthorized UTAU of seiyū is just about as detrimental as using AI, it's the same principle. Back then I was interested in making a Kiku Honda seiyū but I learned that it was illegal and I stopped in my tracks lmao
@Ekraelum
@Ekraelum 8 месяцев назад
I meant UTAU* I can't edit the comment
@hineraable
@hineraable 4 месяца назад
So is ok to use an actor's voice and make Utau voicebanks with it but not ai voicebanks?
@VVesteria
@VVesteria 8 месяцев назад
This is the same issue with ai images. It just hurts those people who created the “base” that is later stolen.
@cfwinki
@cfwinki 8 месяцев назад
I hated these AI song covers as well. What DISGUSTED me is that majority of the audience thought they sounded exactly alike as the seiyuu, but in reality it’s probably 30% sounded similar and 70% not much resemblance. Maybe I’m just picky to sounds and voice, but the fact that there are people who are happy to these song covers that none of the characters have actually sang just feels SO WRONG. But, I’m not sure if ironic is the right word, there are some seiyuus collaborating with AI voice chat platforms where users can feel like chatting with the seiyuu, even Kaji himself started an AI voice project, so if it’s consented, I guess I’m fine with🤷🏻‍♀️
@creamsun
@creamsun 8 месяцев назад
💯agree! This does not only happen to the sound industry, it's also affecting the visual art industry. It's sad to see that all the emotions and values put into work has been copied cheaply by AI, AND THEN supported by people who use toxic reasoning to justify AI as a technological revolution instead of a regurgitation of stolen hardwork, soul and voice of the artists. It's even worse that large corporation are using it "unknowingly" iykyk.
@adilfadhilah4334
@adilfadhilah4334 8 месяцев назад
Tbh, i did try this kind of thing before with some Chinese web that can generated seiyuu voice to what i want, back in that time its still premature AI. I think if you want to use it on your own, like you want your waifu character says "i love you" or anything its Ok as long you keep it for yourself. But what i see now like 2 days ago i found a video when Hu Tao (Rieri voice) and Zhongli (Maeno voice) arguing, ngl it sounds real. Now thats is terrible, not for me as fans but terrible for our beloved seiyuu who put their soul to the characters.
@artaizen1613
@artaizen1613 8 месяцев назад
ahh AI the thing that should've not been used by public too early. I believe from way back that humans should solve morale issue before doing AI stuff, cause with this even non technically adept people can do stuff that pros do given enough trial and error. voice, image, video, these 3 are the main media of today's social media it really can steer opinion and mass amount of human easily, yet the rich won't even say anything until it's late, heck probably this is gonna be their next plaything to redirect important issue from the mass. I am for technology improvements but I think some stuff are not for public use
@timsoup204
@timsoup204 8 месяцев назад
Usually, if I come across an AI cover, I’d just mark the video Not Interested or straight up Don’t Recommend Channel. If the VA or singer wishes to sing and post a cover, let them do it at their own pace is my opinion on this matter.
@FormerEmiliaBestWifi
@FormerEmiliaBestWifi 8 месяцев назад
Honestly I have mixed feelings about this topic. Because at the end of the day, anime characters cannot produce their independent words so that's why I think AI covers should be kept for personal satisfaction only and as obvious as it is, should never be used for profits and such. (Yes I do enjoy some AI covers, I'm not blind and I truly love seiyuus but listening to some of the calmer songs is very relaxing for me)
@yes.3813
@yes.3813 8 месяцев назад
Yes.
@badvnvn63
@badvnvn63 8 месяцев назад
Good thing I never liked those cringy AI covers. Please stop harming artists careers for clicks and laughs
@SirReadAgain
@SirReadAgain 8 месяцев назад
that is why I am using standart AI voice, it is clunky and janky, sounds like roboto rather than human. there are services that offer voice of Raiden Shogun english VA even Artoria JP VA, but I didn't use it because I respect the real VA. sure it will immersive my work on fans visual novel but if I want to use their voice, I must legally hire them as the real VA. not just using AI and make it better. AI can help people but abusing AI can really hurt people and worse, you are producing money out of people's right.
@konpeisubs
@konpeisubs 8 месяцев назад
you mean the text to speech function/voice filter? yeah those are def better even though they kinda sound goofy.
@SirReadAgain
@SirReadAgain 8 месяцев назад
​@@konpeisubshahaha, yes I mean the text to speech one. Some words are diffenetely hard to pronounce that I need to try more than 50 times to make it pronounce better. Like when I want them to say Senpai, I must type Sandpie.
@_r_c._.c_
@_r_c._.c_ 8 месяцев назад
😃
@ghalyaalmaadheed7609
@ghalyaalmaadheed7609 8 месяцев назад
No more AI covers please
@ka8281
@ka8281 8 месяцев назад
its scary when AI can use your voice easily, especially when you works mostly with your voice... i feel bad for all the seiyuu that have to found out some people used their voices, replaced them for some works ...
@artaizen1613
@artaizen1613 8 месяцев назад
dude not even pro, i saw a video where people try to scam with ore ore sagi, but now with AI voice imitating your relative's voice. like this is a real possibility
@boba8424
@boba8424 8 месяцев назад
Kaji-san put it really well. AI is terrifying, not only because of how well it has progressed in the past few years even, but also because of what it means for livelihood of human beings. It can never capture the soul and the emotions of humans in art forms but, most people nowadays just want things done the easier way. That one reason is enough for people to lose jobs because AI is a cheaper option compared to paying salaries or wages to human beings. It has already started happening. I'm scared for the future. I've never watched AI covers because it felt wrong to me. These people have trained their entire life and worked hard so their voices gain recognition only for it to be imitated by AI, listening to them feels wrong in a way.
@TheMattVis
@TheMattVis 8 месяцев назад
In the end it's how the person that using it for, don't blame the AI blame the person that using it for the wrong reason. For example, if the VA is sick, instead waiting them recover or using susbtitute that sounds different, AI is a good choice. Obviously you still need to get permission/giving credit to the original VA. A gun can be used for killing or protectimg yourself, all depends on the user.
@arenshichic1203
@arenshichic1203 8 месяцев назад
@@TheMattVis people would use guns more if it wasnt so restricted. And people are still people who want easier ways. No matter what, if we dont want it someone else will want it to happen. So maybe AI shouldve been really restricted Technology grows fast but the rules are not fast enough
@TheCheerLifeForeverKromie
@TheCheerLifeForeverKromie 8 месяцев назад
@@TheMattVis Factory. factory cause more electricity bill than human work but able to keep their quality and quantity. you can say that human work has a soul in every product that has been made yet no one cares aside from those people who know the difference and appreciate it. It's a choice. and we always did what it convenient for us the most. It's a tool. and nobody really cares what the rest is going to do. that's the scary part. Did you know that we have the technology to create real-time AI voice now? and you can indeed mimic feelings by letting someone else use the voice. you only need two voices, a person and a voice's mimic. render it. and boom you have a unable voice that even captures the space of your gasp breathing. imagine how much they can do. if those people know how to make it like some of us can do. It's not going to be funny or haha. I bet some people going to use the voice in the factory like a catalogue. the uniqueness that people have. they're nothing. and people are going to lose interest cause it's easier to do it that way or some people going to steal their voice anyway. why even bother to do the unstable job that nobody cares cause the profession in the work line is dead like people who work in factory that the only thing people care is product not people. "But", yes I do agree as long as they agree to let them use the voice or save it forever. it's good and help in the future. if one day, they want to use the voice that can't be found anymore like VA dead and the series not end yet.
@yes.3813
@yes.3813 8 месяцев назад
Skill issue
@josed7841
@josed7841 8 месяцев назад
Hi, you are right and the people who defend and use this technology only think for money and fame. But doesnt think the consequences of their actions. They only see a product, not people. I see that happenee with short of scooby doo who use a dead man voice about no thinking the grief and pain cause to the family and after that digital circus use AI voices for actors who are alive, because they wont not pay the actors and wanted for free.That is something messed up and this technology needs to be stopped( one of rules about this technology is never replace to the humankind)
@LaGiniComenta
@LaGiniComenta 8 месяцев назад
It didn't even start but I should say: It harms a lot. And it's a big problem not just in Japan, in all over the world. Voice actors have been fighting against companies that don't want to put an anti-AI clause for months. Because they want to own the right to use our voices as they please. And with public IA's like this, they want the general public to get used to the IA, to it's crappyness because that way, if big companies uses it, people will be already used to that. It's very terryfing...
@rokuraku00
@rokuraku00 8 месяцев назад
Yes I agree .... it hasn't start but THIS !!!
@SemekiIzuio
@SemekiIzuio 8 месяцев назад
Thats a good point, getting the people use to bad AIs so when it is used we find nothing wrong with it...
@meiyosei78
@meiyosei78 8 месяцев назад
It reminds me about an English VA whose voice was used in a Naruto game, but they never recorded that line and it sounded awful. Hope they get to sue the company
@phoebecara4361
@phoebecara4361 8 месяцев назад
Do not support AI. Do not upload your favorite artists/seiyuu work in AI learning sites. Don't even do any AI trends. If anything we should sabotage the AI learning websites. Also, there's rumors that AI now has collection of CSEM/CSAM do you really want to be involved when some companies are already pulling out.
@generevmadlos258
@generevmadlos258 8 месяцев назад
True, I don't support any AI trends. I'm getting tired seeing those and it's making me weary
@Nisaaaaaaa23
@Nisaaaaaaa23 8 месяцев назад
It's sad 😢 I hate AI voice imitation and Ai Art theft so much
@saskara6641
@saskara6641 8 месяцев назад
Agreei dont support ai
@Kongongongg
@Kongongongg 8 месяцев назад
I will support Ai
@ambasing_omaygot
@ambasing_omaygot 8 месяцев назад
@@Kongongongg and the livelihood of voice actors goes down the drain because of AI bros making tons of AI covers for some views Like just imagine how advanced AI accelerated, a decade ago we never thought of AI replicating voices but here we are now
@planetno.97
@planetno.97 8 месяцев назад
I found out about these AI covers a few months ago. I thought it was interesting at first. But after hearing what Kaji-san Said here was really heartbreaking. I now realize it is harming some people and artists. Thank you for this video. I will no longer support AI covers.
@smiles4nyles281
@smiles4nyles281 8 месяцев назад
100% agree with everything you said. I'm completely against AI covers it is complete unethical
@artaizen1613
@artaizen1613 8 месяцев назад
if they want to do this for fun, just put snippet like 5-10 seconds of it, no need to put the whole song up
@Kongongongg
@Kongongongg 8 месяцев назад
Cope
@ambasing_omaygot
@ambasing_omaygot 8 месяцев назад
​@@Kongongongg why? what if it happens to your voice? what if your voice was replicated against your own will just to say something that you're very uncomfortable saying, and someone decided to share it to you, and you listen to it for the first time, what would your reaction be?
@Kongongongg
@Kongongongg 8 месяцев назад
@@ambasing_omaygot I will said it’s Ai and can’t be use as a proof
@ambasing_omaygot
@ambasing_omaygot 8 месяцев назад
@@Kongongongg what do you mean it's not proof? I've heard of Bella Hadid's pro-Israel deepfake being used to manipulate and misinform people to support Israel AI being used for propaganda is scary, and we should all be concerned about it
@DeziCh
@DeziCh 8 месяцев назад
It's ironic when people take seiyuu's voices without any interest in what they might have to say about it. People can be so thoughtless, even going as far as making covers of inappropriate songs or making VAs say horrible things that could get them in trouble if their agency requires them to represent the company honorably. Or even tagging the VA's accounts in the comments to try and get them to laugh about it too. I hope seiyuus and the staff managing them can start gaining more control over the situation, claiming copyright if they come across AI covers like this and getting them taken down-- maybe people think that's an extreme thing to say, but people really shouldn't be rewarded for treating seiyuus so disrespectfully, when their hard work is the reason why the shows we love even exists. Like man, imagine how discouraging that must be to them :( Thank you for making this video Curry, and I hope it helps spread the word about the issue
@defnotnaruto222
@defnotnaruto222 8 месяцев назад
Though I thoroughly agree that companies and seijuu's deserve more control over these types of situations, these AI voices are meant to be plain fun, and no matter what companies and people do, they will exist. I know I may be killed for this, but when thinking about how things have worked before, for ex. presidential candidates bad mouthing eachother, as long as people can understand that something was generated by an AI or is generally fake, there shouldn't be too much of a problem. The next thing I would like to mention is that when an internet exists, seperate opinions exist (for example, what I am saying right now). A voice actor already has so many various problems to deal with such as people criticizing their body or face, their ability to voice act, or even just how they exist. AI is just creating another problem that may or may not be worse, but I don't think its as big as a problem considering all of their worries that they have to deal with. I like what people are doing with AI voices, I don't like what people are capable of doing with AI voices, and I think voice actors think like that too. Just as Napoleon said in that one video (I don't even know if he truely said this) "There is nothing we can do," so might as well see where it goes eh?
@ambasing_omaygot
@ambasing_omaygot 8 месяцев назад
​@@defnotnaruto222 I don't want to live in a life where every single human has their voice replicated, that would just be very dystopian
@DeziCh
@DeziCh 8 месяцев назад
@@defnotnaruto222 It's true that voice actors have more problems than fan-made stuff-- though AI is still a big problem, e.g. voice actors being hired for recording sessions that are secretly meant to serve as AI training data that will replace them. And AI voices being trained off of this type of work, without permission or compensation. But imo these AI covers are in the same category as social media accounts that repost other people's art. It's stolen data (in the case of AI voices that are trained/used without permission) and turned into content that can grow the social media of the person who posted it, without compensation for the people who own the content that they're repurposing. They could try to ask permission (which they likely wouldn't get) or stick with AI voices that were trained ethically, but they wouldn't profit off of that as much. I get that people still enjoy AI covers and that there will be a demand for it no matter what. But in these cases we're looking at people who prioritize growing their own accounts over supporting the VA that they're stealing from. There's no "transformative" aspect to it to argue Fair Use (using copyrighted material for the benefit of the public) and willingly infringes upon copyrighted work, so in a legal context it has no legs to stand on. I guess people will have to decide for themselves how they feel about that and encouraging people to create this type of work without permission from the voice actor they're a fan of. But you're right, we'll just have to see where it goes.
@dootdoot3065
@dootdoot3065 8 месяцев назад
@@defnotnaruto222 I disagree but I just want to say thanks for being civil and arguing your point respectfully instead of just dismissing the original comment and saying something like "it's not a big deal". I know it may seem pretty silly to thank you for this, but I'm just so tired of seeing people ignoring the reason why people are worried in the first place.
@fg009letyrds8
@fg009letyrds8 8 месяцев назад
Lmfao bootlicker spotted
@christi6236
@christi6236 8 месяцев назад
AI could never replace true human emotions. Maybe for some people imitation is enough, but not for me. Though I notice typical voice tones in anime. TBH its rare to hear something exceptional. I appreciate uniqueness of voice and intonations a lot. Maybe AI will motivate voice actors and singers to develop personality of their voice, so we could appreciate them more.
@skye387
@skye387 8 месяцев назад
Tbh, I agree they sounded similar but not quite the same especially if you're familiar with the actual voice. At some point, the voice also changed into not even the same before changing back again. Personally I'd say it's fun but it's not something I'd actually listened except for joke or meme. This is basically similar to the AI art problem.
@saskara6641
@saskara6641 8 месяцев назад
True ai could replacr true human emotion but it can tricked human
@cyanleyn5985
@cyanleyn5985 8 месяцев назад
You can say that but the hard truth is they are already working hard so much. And they still had to deal with this. It is so easy to say the AI can't capture the soul and whats but many people is content with just that and it means we lose many people who values the Actual work instead. Im saying this with first experience as an artist. AI art made me lose a lot of potential commissions and when i read novels and see authors who just generated an AI art to portray their characters... i dont know... i just... i gave up. I haven't touched my pentab for a month now
@christi6236
@christi6236 8 месяцев назад
@@cyanleyn5985 Draw for yourself first. Draw characters, that YOU want to see. Draw your interpretations of characters created by others (including AI) as YOU see them. Draw your fantasies. Then show your work on internet. People will like it. Your inspiration and motivation should come from the need to express yourself, your inner world. Money is second priority.
@a.k.amatsu4876
@a.k.amatsu4876 8 месяцев назад
You got it all wrong. AI always use inputs, artists works is the inputs. AI will always be unethical forever and people losing the respect of humanity. AI in reality is not tool, but is real life cheat code. Doubt people will use it wisely.
@nekochadechu
@nekochadechu 8 месяцев назад
There is a new anime that touches the issue of AI where artists become data bases and there is no creativity anymore. Also the mc gets fooled by a phone call that uses her friend's voice but as AI, I wouldn't be surprised if this scam method was being already used😭
@auliadini3174
@auliadini3174 8 месяцев назад
What's the anime name? And yeah, that scam method is pretty common already even without AI, usually the target is old people who won't know better :(
@auliashiina8646
@auliashiina8646 8 месяцев назад
What's the title?
@paksispragma1671
@paksispragma1671 8 месяцев назад
bookmarking for title :)
@mahfudzk
@mahfudzk 8 месяцев назад
If you guys haven't got the title, it's 16bit sensation The story is kinda weird and janky tho
@HudaefCares
@HudaefCares 8 месяцев назад
Apparently it already happened in my country... I only saw the thumbnail but I think they used real footage of a well-known news anchor, edited the graphics and used AI to mimic his voice. Idk if it was a scam or misinformation that was dispensed tho.
@KingJH0510
@KingJH0510 8 месяцев назад
Realise how kaji-san never said anything about AI taking their jobs Becuase it cant This is all about soul and heart, and like he said the pride of a performer And seeing their voices as these hollow husks of AI generated content is something that would hurt But on the contrary i do think this relates a little bit back to the pirating issue. Why do we make AI covers? Why do we listen to them? Because we want to hear these voice actors sing these songs. There is an obvious demand for it and the big japanese corporations are not aware enough to tap into it. And even when they do, CrosSing, a youtube channel that was created to get different seiyuus and artists to sing other songs, they dont know how to make it work. I think there have been more attempts at tapping into this market as of late, one example is bokuyaba, they got youmiya hina to sing the opening, which was nice to see. CrosSing was able to get itself as big as the first take i think the community would be very happy and the demand for AI covers would dwindle. That said, seiyuus are very busy people and it is very hard to get them to do something like this
@CioChoux
@CioChoux 8 месяцев назад
Agreed. Seiyuus are too busy or may be hindered by copyright issues and AI may the the closest you can get to satisfy the curiosity of how a song would sound like if [insert seiyuu name] sang it. But of course, I expect it would sound flat and robotic; and while the voice may sound similar, I greatly doubt AI can capture the feelings put into a performance.
@chocomelonsugarhigh
@chocomelonsugarhigh 8 месяцев назад
It’s all fun and games until you find out someone is using your voice as a cover to a song or to produce lewd contents. 1. It’s a breach of privacy 2. Others won’t see you the same way anymore If you don’t want this to happen to you, then don’t even wish it upon others, much less make AI voice generated contents.
@matten_zero
@matten_zero 7 месяцев назад
I agree. As an, AI Engineer I've wrestled with this ethical question. As an anime fan since the 90s, Ive always deeply respected voice actors and it is why I would NEVER use a seiyu's voice without permission or a licence. Even if it is leas profitable I respect those artist so much my startup will always reapect the rights and wishes of voice actors and artists.
@fakelove1532
@fakelove1532 8 месяцев назад
Its the same as ai art. People just dont respect the livelyhoods of voice actors and artists and just want to soulessly create and feed content without caring for the damage it causes to real people because of their own selfishness and greed for consuming content without any of the real work and effort and heart and soul. Cause who cares because its "easy and quick"
@malle_u_s
@malle_u_s 8 месяцев назад
some ppl take this matter too lightly like just imagine yourself in the same situation. would you like it if anyone use your face and voice to make something goofy and embarrassing?
@datte-ai
@datte-ai 8 месяцев назад
AI be stealing everything. Even though it is an amazing development in technology, its mostly used for stealing other peoples art including the art of voice acting. I hope people stop, as amusing as it is. People stealing others voices, especially if they're voice actors, is really harmful and creepy. And of course, companies will exploit it to avoid having to pay for actual voice actors. Being a huge seiyuu fan, stumbling across some of the AI covers feels very uncanny, in the beginning, you could tell it was AI, but now, its developed to the point where if you're not paying close attention, you could easily mistaken it as legit. Even if it sounds good, it will never be the same as an actual voice actor. I hope this video reaches more people and learn to appreciate the voice actors more.
@EfPierrot
@EfPierrot 8 месяцев назад
Kaji Yuuki is absolutely right about everything he said. This opinion also applies to most medium of art, especially in the drawing scene. You basically ignore the hard work, effort, soul, and sweat made by real people. AI may sound technologically breaking, amazing, and convenient but NOT ALWAYS. It definitely helps some people but in the end, it's how you use it. If you simply use it without any regards, like for example, seiyuus in this case, it's not fun or amazing anymore. You can technically use it for selling their voice, or even blackmailing them, and worse, be used as evidence for a crime that a real person did not even commit. In my personal opinion, AI has no place in public use or on art. The AI I can only accept or had dreamt of is if something like Jarvis from Iron Man, something similar to Chobits, or even self made desktop/laptop buddy assistant to help you find files and stuff from your own computer like the hackers used in fiction, or lastly, just a non-sentient being to practice your social skill or at least someone to talk to if you are lonely. Assistant AI? Yes. AI taking over your/a role/s? No.
@hoyoenthusiast
@hoyoenthusiast 8 месяцев назад
I really hate how I can't listen to any covers without the algorithm recommending me AI covers. and if I say that I don't want to see this similar to it, then all the covers vanish from my recommended. Theres a difference, darn it
@yoiko89
@yoiko89 8 месяцев назад
Scary if Ai use voice by death Japanese VA.
@UnnonAC
@UnnonAC 8 месяцев назад
Sad thing. The whole "w0kE english localizers" drama generated a video where a line from Dragon Maid's english dub was replaced by ai because "political talk about patriarchy" The video was well received and some think it's good for "political voice actors" to be replaced. Like that shit only happens once in a blue moon and it gonna lead us to doom💀💀
@anonymocha
@anonymocha 8 месяцев назад
they did WHAT to kobayashi dragon maid dub
@acutelilmint8035
@acutelilmint8035 8 месяцев назад
We laugh when bad american voices actors are affected but to know that this is actually going to affect good japanese voice actors.. now this is a problem. While i don’t think it will hurt japanese vas as much since they are really good and they are basically idol/celebs have concerts etc.. japanese studios are always looking to cut cost.. so it is kinda scary
@andrewli6606
@andrewli6606 8 месяцев назад
JP vas are probably more safe than US vas honestly tho. There’s a much bigger fandom surrounding individual personalities.
@awsomeboy360
@awsomeboy360 8 месяцев назад
Even so, the fact that AI is infinitely cheaper means that their voice is at threat. The Big names VA won't be affected, but the new guys absolutely will. IT's going to be harder to get into the industry, etc.
@liandoaethend2403
@liandoaethend2403 8 месяцев назад
Intentionally skipped pass AI cover of a song with VA voice because the sounds of the idea is cringe. The only thing that i accept as robot singies are vocaloids (which are official voicebank) and Utauloid of their own voice
@chr00n1s
@chr00n1s 8 месяцев назад
Welp now they also now know how us artist feel. I fewl bad for the voice actors and singers. Damnit AI i thought you supposed to help us bot sabotage us
@tadicahya6439
@tadicahya6439 8 месяцев назад
These days people dont really care about the greater good anymore
@CherryTheCat
@CherryTheCat 8 месяцев назад
Honestly, I think Vocaloid and most Vocal synths in general are just better than AI
@im_Iggy
@im_Iggy 8 месяцев назад
Why would they (creators who made AI) make this in the first place? I find it confusing. And they're probably upgrading it every day and sooner it's gonna learn and that's already terrifying to think about
@aguinayajolly6565
@aguinayajolly6565 8 месяцев назад
I like Japanese voice actors but using their voices like this is so chilling, when I first hesr these songs made by AI you can be amazed by how they imitate the voices but as music lovers for so long you can tell there are no emotions to the song being sang it's like hearing a beautiful song sang by the dead
@myz_ka
@myz_ka 8 месяцев назад
There’s plenty of seiyuu cover projects like CrosSing (on youtube) and Re:Collection hit songs (on spotify). Aopella, male seiyuu singing project, (also on youtube) do acapella covers of famous jpop songs. Wayyy better than soulless AI covers.
@japanhd2520
@japanhd2520 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for addressing this! What I recommend, whenever one comes across AI generated song etc. report these videos for copyright issues, for theft or harmful content (its harmful for the people that ise their voice for a living). Anyway thank you again!
@SemekiIzuio
@SemekiIzuio 8 месяцев назад
Seiyuus use to sing cover for OPs and EDs of their animes they were in way back but for some reason stopped doing this... so AI imo brought some of it back unfortunately I do see the harm in it. But at the same time, if they were given permission to sing covers for their animes like this may help people choose the real thing rather then AI. Cause AI dont hit all the notes or as well as a real person.
@Ekraelum
@Ekraelum 8 месяцев назад
I never liked these. One of my first exposures to AI imitating seiyū was with a video uploaded on Twitter where someone tried to "dub" the Jotaro vs DIO fight with the original seiyū talking in English, and I cringed so hard I physically recoiled. Takehito Koyasu was quite literally the reason I even watched Jojo (and I'm still unfinished lol), his performance as DIO is so memorable it became what he's known for in the West, and since I'm already a big fan of him I was quite upset about his voice being used without permission to create these things. And the dub itself was horrible as well, the AI sapped all emotion to the voice performance, it was just embarrassing. Made me laugh at the person who uploaded the video. And for a while, whenever I listened to a song sung by Koyasu-san I ended up getting in my recommended those videos titled like "DIO sings [blank] (AI cover)" and I immediately clicked on "not interested" to not see them again. Miraculously it worked. I know it's cliche but Takehito Koyasu *is* my favorite seiyū and I have always been a fan of voice acting, and how much work it goes into portraying so many emotions with only one's voice. To make AI covers is not only to insult the seiyū in question, but also the whole artistry behind voice acting.
@Randomdude9479
@Randomdude9479 8 месяцев назад
I just want to say how much respect I have for Artist in Japan. Love your Music, Anime and Seyiuu's as well. For the next 10, 50, 100 years, I hope the industri of Anime and Movies would still use actors to represent the art that myself and All the people around the world love.
@reisnow80
@reisnow80 8 месяцев назад
We need serious regulations and LAW to control this AI. Even If the technology is undeniable at least give them credits and payment for their own voice.
@ryoid6001
@ryoid6001 8 месяцев назад
Remind me that in old times some people actually use UTAU to made VA sing a song,but it doesnt get much attention cause it sound robotic and its also harder to made song with UTAU rather than Ai
@paper.tigers
@paper.tigers 8 месяцев назад
i never liked AI. AI voices, AI art, AI music, all of it. it strips anything human-made of any emotion, hardwork, and imperfections. it takes away from the meaning of hard-work. this voice acting AI situation is the same as the AI art situation. they steal a person's voice without any credit or permission whatsoever, and benefit from it.
@humanzzzz
@humanzzzz 8 месяцев назад
And these AIbros insisted that it's fine as long as it's not used for commercials No, it's not! You're literally "stealing" someone else's voice!
@rockheartqueen
@rockheartqueen 8 месяцев назад
First it was art, music, writing, now voices. When are we all going to agree to put laws against AI, knowing that it's going to affect multiple other industries?
@BigTatasEnjoyerr
@BigTatasEnjoyerr 8 месяцев назад
Whenever actual artists voiced up about unethical and overusage of A.I, what did they get? Yeah, they were mocked and ridiculed around by those A.I image users and probably those A.I image sympathisers. The usual thing they said would be " Boohoo, A.I gonna replace artists someday, just adapt and move on." while being oblivious that they are also gonna be replaced by the same thing that they defended so much in the long term.
@anasazmi8554
@anasazmi8554 8 месяцев назад
I believe Kaji-san's reaction towards the AI covers is also what a lot of VAs in the US feel, and that's why the 2023 SAG-AFTRA strike happened.
@PeruvianPotato
@PeruvianPotato 8 месяцев назад
Yep and I honestly find it quite pathetic some here are actually celebrating this just because of a few petty drama months back
@elainechan7155
@elainechan7155 8 месяцев назад
Many don't understand how much passion, hard work are put into their voice acting. I think although some seiyuus are very popular, they globally deserve more love and support than what they get
@auliashiina8646
@auliashiina8646 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for bringing up sensitive topics like this. There are not many people who are aware of the consequences of using AI, and even less to people who would be open to educating people about that. Thank you for speaking up. I really love your contents.
@pinkuneko.
@pinkuneko. 8 месяцев назад
AI has become so advanced that it manages to take jobs away from actual Voice Actors which is really unfortunate and sad. I've seen some video game companies/devs post listings or are looking for individuals with general knowledge and experience with AI to use in their games and it's just disappointing (I think the main reason for this is because companies want to invest less/don't want to continuously pay a living person). Oppertunities are being washed over by AI and it really sucks - especially the AI bots using the voice of voice actors. Just imagine having your voice being altered, replaced even, all without your consent.
@SirPennyDreadful
@SirPennyDreadful 8 месяцев назад
As a creative AI is already a nightmare I feel so sorry for all of them 😢
@MangaGamified
@MangaGamified 8 месяцев назад
Maybe 10 years later, either people get good detecting / uncovering if it's AI or some laws are passed
@OshiyoNatakagi
@OshiyoNatakagi 8 месяцев назад
The only AI covers I listen to are from dead people like Freddy Mercury or Johnny Halliday. It makes me feel like they still alive somehow. If anyone have other opinion, I will glad to read them. :3
@mindmon8044
@mindmon8044 8 месяцев назад
It need a better regulation, I think it is good to have such a technology. It can bring humanity to work more efficiently and effectively. In every technology. It will be better soon like other technologies such as vocaloid, vtuber, robots or any other tech.
@miria4157
@miria4157 8 месяцев назад
Wasnt there character voice impression songs (forgot what it was called). I remember hearing a few gintama ones, and i was almost fooled into thinking it was the real va
@cnr_lia
@cnr_lia 8 месяцев назад
i think you mean koemane covers. iirc those are made by real creators, fans who try to make their voice as similar as possible to the seiyuu of the characters. they aren't made by stealing the seiyuu's voice data. i think that's a entirely different case. tbh, i appreciate those covers/contents more because they aren't made by AI.
@Ekraelum
@Ekraelum 8 месяцев назад
​@mimimiyakooo omg I'm glad you brought Koyasu-san up cause I remember when One Piece Red came out, a TikTok became viral of a DIO cosplayer who sounded almost exactly as Koyasu-san going to see the movie. And people thought he was legitimately Koyasu-san. And while I really do admire the impersonators and how fucking attentive they are to the voices they're trying to imitate (like, this particular TikToker is so painfully accurate and I'm worried I even noticed certain little details like how he pronounces the T and the S?), I think people just... should investigate more. I don't think impersonators are inherently harming anybody but it's the non-JP speaking fandom what's causing this harm
@konpeisubs
@konpeisubs 8 месяцев назад
I have mixed feelings with impersonators bcs some of them don't make it clear that they are not the VAs. I know someone who think it's okay to label themselves VAs bcs they think voice impressionists = voice actors. the effect? ppl who don't know better actually thought they are the anime VAs. that, and how people aren't bothered to check before reposting/spreading those videos and caption it as "Toji VA goes to konbini so-and-so".......there's no way koyasu-san would do that omg....
@SachiLaSenya
@SachiLaSenya 8 месяцев назад
what do u expect ? its not ä surprising moments where AI even can start missunderstanding between countries and starts war.. this is just simple matter from the greater thing that will happen in the future bcs of AI dont blame the AI, it was born from human anyway 😊
@dragonarch0
@dragonarch0 8 месяцев назад
AI can replace only mediocre people. No matter how much AI grows, it still wont be able to replace humans. Period
@ambasing_omaygot
@ambasing_omaygot 8 месяцев назад
There's that one time Erica Lindbeck was harassed just because she wanted an AI cover of "Welcome to the Internet" used without her permission to be removed. That incident still disgusts me.
@kiryuunisa6923
@kiryuunisa6923 8 месяцев назад
I dont want to searching AI covers in my browser. So, I will not see one of it in my phone. Ofc its scary and disrespect to their career😢
@darkwolfknight8293
@darkwolfknight8293 8 месяцев назад
I will never support AI Covers.
@aqira8575
@aqira8575 8 месяцев назад
THIS!! I absolutely get frustrated seeing people that using other people's voice/hardwork for views especially if they used my favourite seiyuus TwT The absolute disgraced and shameful act!! Im very mad at them
@dreamy_0129
@dreamy_0129 8 месяцев назад
Thank you a lot for make this video❤ I really respect the voice actors. It's scary how AI can easily use their voice..I hope people not do that anymore..
@ReinzTheKing
@ReinzTheKing 8 месяцев назад
Well... it sad and hurt but if it in Jamie Marchie's case then I won't have a problem to use AI to fix something like that.
@rics0982
@rics0982 2 месяца назад
I loved all the VA and the efforts they have created for their careers. some people use AI to use VA's voice for speech interview songs that which they've never did. I don't want that to happen and use it as a replacement. this is very deceiving for all of us. and it's not real. 🙏
@PeruvianPotato
@PeruvianPotato 8 месяцев назад
The only time i ever got recommended an AI music video was with impersonations of Jun Fukushima and Rie Takahashi (Kazuma and Megumin's JA voice actors). Even then I felt that this was kind of an L thing to do given how it's basically stealing other people's work and a very cheap and scummy way to gain popularity on RU-vid. Then again, this can apply to AI in general and the fact that people are happy seeing this happen to English VA's really says a lot about the partizanship of 2024.
@tobiuchihawinchester6036
@tobiuchihawinchester6036 8 месяцев назад
I do not support any AI related tbh. May it be voice work, writing, drawing and animation, or any form of art. It diminishes the real meaning of effort, dedication, passion and essence in one's work. The fact that you worked blood and tears and time for your profession and then AI just diminishes that.
@anonymousfujoakut9122
@anonymousfujoakut9122 8 месяцев назад
Is just the same as what AI did to Artist all around the world. Like, what was the point, it's embarrassing and cringe. It would've be different if we ASK for the very self of the ACTUAL VA.
@FlipTheBard
@FlipTheBard 8 месяцев назад
And then we have the "AI-bros" really trying hard to sell that "AI doesn't use stolen content" or that "AI isn't taking the jobs of people, but generating new ones"...uhuh... I really hope that AI(when used for art and/or artistic ends) gets banned and considered illegal, because basically all AI that is used for that end uses stolen content from those that ACTUALLY make said content.
@kagaminelen247
@kagaminelen247 8 месяцев назад
Look at the cute baby face he's so old yet he's Soo cute 🥺
@Rachel-Pham
@Rachel-Pham 8 месяцев назад
Usage of AI for Japanese subs, English dubs, or any voice acting is just grim. It’s equally as bad as AI art.
@malle_u_s
@malle_u_s 8 месяцев назад
just bcs they are celebs or public figures doesnt mean its okay to use their voices at your whim for the sake of "amusement". what are the chances of your fav VAs to cover your fav songs? very unlikely. and that's exactly what makes it precious, bcs it is so rare. also when VAs release actual covers, yall better not sleep on them....
@Katcom111
@Katcom111 8 месяцев назад
The worst part, any company whether it is outside will use their voice in the future and make profit.
@SUTAZZZ
@SUTAZZZ 8 месяцев назад
I feel so bad for the voice actors
@8888carnival
@8888carnival 8 месяцев назад
Ai rly gonna steal all those peoples jobs away, rly not gonna support man
@josed7841
@josed7841 8 месяцев назад
You are right about that. Thank you for sharing
@suzumutsu
@suzumutsu 8 месяцев назад
Honestly, AI hurts every single real artist. Actors, voice actors, digital and traditional artists, singers, etc etc, every form of real art is harmed by AI. Art is such a human thing, it cannot be replicated by a machine that has no feelings and no soul. Machines and AI should be used to do actual work instead of humans, but never art. AI "art" will never be real art, no matter how much people claim it is. AI can be used for good, but the direction we're heading towards is NOT it. It's also super scary imo that it's getting so much better at replicating people's voice or making fake videos of people. Pictures could already be easily edited for a while, but videos and voice recordings were usually sufficient proof that something did or did not happen, until now. In a few years, it might just be completely impossible to tell if a video is fake or real. It's terrifying that people can just use others' faces, bodies or voices without their permission. Nothing good can come of this kind of technology. And practically all of AI "art" is just straight up stealing from real artists and using their work to create some soulless crap. If real art didn't exist, neither would any AI "art," which easily proves this point.
@usubenidango
@usubenidango 8 месяцев назад
THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING!!! Everytime i see someone upload an ai cover of my favorite seiyuu (zakki) i feel insane amounts of rage, that's so disrespectful. Wish they'd stop with this ai thing already!!! Not only that, but it also makes it harder to search for actual covers zakki made, like his versions of vocaloid songs :((
@TadanoCandy
@TadanoCandy 8 месяцев назад
Imo it’s inevitable that AI will take some people’s jobs. Tbh I want them to take a whole lot of jobs away so that our governments actually have to do something with the growing number of displaced workers. If it’s just a few of us getting hurt, they’ll ignore us saying stuff like “you’re at fault for not catching up to the times” like they’ve always done 🤷🏻‍♀️
@SUIREIx
@SUIREIx 8 месяцев назад
😂😂😂 what you mean fck voice actors what about thos ppl who can black mail anywith AI voice of the exact person 💀💀💀💀💀
@Sachicodao
@Sachicodao 8 месяцев назад
AI covers are just as bad as AI art, I don't like the double standards in creative arts
@hollowficate
@hollowficate 8 месяцев назад
2:58 FOR NOW
@SinRealm
@SinRealm 8 месяцев назад
I feel bad for seiyuus but for English dubbers who insert their politics in anime. They gotta go and get replaced by machines.
@Green-tt9cx
@Green-tt9cx 8 месяцев назад
I did use AI for information randomly even sometimes they just can't. but using AI for content I absolutely hate it to bottom of my heart. they are imperfect because no matter how much you fix your AI art to make it real art, it still not your art! including taking other people voice for cover! it not your fking voice! You want to art? draw yourself! You want cover? Sing yourself!
@sandakinskywalker3128
@sandakinskywalker3128 8 месяцев назад
This is an important issue, but a few things were a bit outdated: AI generated voices DO allow for individual input and performance. It’s not new necessarily, voice modulators have been around for years, but the ability to train your own specific voice modulator is new. The folks in voice acting who I think are the most at risk aren’t the original cast members, but the dub cast members. From the perspective of the studio, there’s a greater incentive to retain control over distributing a program overseas. We currently have more than decent voice translators, meaning the original VA voices could potentially be used in multiple language dubs overseas.
@cnr_lia
@cnr_lia 8 месяцев назад
this is just sad to see. their voice are their job, and to be stolen by unresponsible people to make AI videos like that... just heartbreaking. it's the same as stealing their jobs. i really hope their agencies have a strict policy against cases like these. 🥲
@Aysa_16
@Aysa_16 8 месяцев назад
They aren't stealing, He just said that AI couldn't replace any job because it doesn't have a soul and heart
@asenggnesa4150
@asenggnesa4150 8 месяцев назад
It really became a problem. I saw way too many AI covers this past month. Crazy how they can just spam covers so quickly, low effort, and damaging to the industry. Those vids are cluttering my search result, please stop posting AI covers as if you're creating something meaningful.
@cynbbofhsmkeakdd
@cynbbofhsmkeakdd 8 месяцев назад
It's so sad... this is why I don't want to get into the AI trend. I know people mostly do this for fun for the anime and characters they like, but I still don't agree with this. It can potentially replace real seiyuu as AI gets more advanced and seiyuu themselves lose the right to their own voice. It's sad that no one can really do much about this and it's scary to think of the impact that AI has and will have in the future.
@sasoosa1515
@sasoosa1515 8 месяцев назад
I knew I was right! It's so terrifying 😰 Just like he said, it will end up to be something that no one can control at the end, but at the same time, everyone would be involved, the people who invented it & who used it. Not only VAs but even artists, some people say that it would actually help artists because they would get paid more, but I think that instead of spending money, people will just use AI to generate artworks. I mean, poor artists, spend weeks, months & years working on an artwork, they put all their effort into it, while the evil AI just finishes it in one minute! Thank you for raising awareness by posting the video, we all need to know what kind of era we will be living in as we move on with our lives, and how to not lose control against these silly AI
@genie5689
@genie5689 8 месяцев назад
I watched this a couple times to create my presentation. The fact that AI can takeover their jobs in one snap is dismissing their hard work to get to the spot they are in now and terrifying to everyone. I always thought AI was just there to give us ideas or some words we don't know, never thought that one day they could be behind the voices of our favorite characters, afraid for our future especially for the seiyuus.
@alyamunira8295
@alyamunira8295 8 месяцев назад
Thank god, I NEVER had any interest to click those AI covered videos. That's how outdated I am.
@decafjava8565
@decafjava8565 8 месяцев назад
Well I for one will not support this trend, just seeing Kaji-san's reaction - and as a huge AoT fan as well as a fan of him and his fellow VAs - I find this trend very disrespectful.
@TiffanyNg100
@TiffanyNg100 8 месяцев назад
Not gonna be hurt if they band together and sue it. Or allow them to use his voice, but everytime they sue he get the money
@freezyyyy-
@freezyyyy- 8 месяцев назад
I am really against Ai It should not have developed like why should we even use Ai for such stupid reason it is just an way for being too lazy ...Ai is bad and it will take the world to it’s end
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