How Amazon Made the 1 Million Lumen Flashlight 

This is episode 20 in a series of testing various light types, usually from actual brands: ru-vid.com/group/PLYka5JBKPLHEfG1w1WC_bbN4vQglwyp5n

I eagerly await the "1 Billion" Lumen light from Amazon...

For reference...a very powerful arc welder generates around 200000 lumens. A 20k$ pro follow spot throws about 14000 lumens at 100 feet. Which feels pretty warm even at that distance.

Wow! .05% of claim! None of the crappy ones even reached .25%🤯 How in the world... Excellent testing as always TTC👍

Man, I've been noticing those "Review Hijacks" quite a bit myself. I'm an Amazon Vine reviewer, so I end up getting to test out and review a fair bit of stuff before it even hits the main pages. On quite a few of my reviews, I've gone back to update something as I've put more time on the item and have more input to give - Only to find out that the item being sold that has my first review isn't even close to what I actually reviewed! My favourite there so far was reviewing a $9.95 pressure washer extension wand. It was pretty good, nice and solid, good quick-connects, held up well in use. Not a big deal, pretty simple item. I reviewed it five stars - it was a good value and did what it was supposed to well. Come back in a couple months to update and say that after a few months of use it was still holding up well... Lo and behold, that page is now selling a $199 electric pressure washer instead! And still has my five-star review on it! (I dumped the review to one-star and detailed why.)

how is this not false advertising on amazon's part?

I love the flashlight series!(and I want more!)

Most people have no idea of what measurements of anything is anymore. Or they think "led" is all the same. I showed my neighbor the difference between a cheap 10w led and a nice one. It was incredibly apparent what it was worth.

Can you do tests on the portable car air compressors? Maybe evaluate speed, max psi, functionality, ease of use? I know a few of them are junk

I picked up two Wurkkos and for the money they can't be beat in my opinion. I also own Fenix, Olight, and Nightcore. For $26 on sale the FC11 is a great edc choice and great gift.

Amazon Customer: "I bought the cool new flashlight" Amazon's customer's Bro: "But how many Lumens does it have???" Amazon Customer: "ALL OF THEM"

I've been using a USB 5v-24v step up converter to power a 12v Spot/Off road light with a USB Power bank. Since ive been DIY'ing my own lights i havent needed a normal flashlight for quite some time now.

Amazingly, I feel the advertising on aliexpress is now much closer to reality. If you ignore 10kW 1M lumen crap, you can often find info on what emitter is actually used and get realistic data. Convoy is a brand I have good expierience with. They specify LED model, light spectral temperature, CRI, realistic maximum power draw etc. Another example: on my bike I use towild BR800, that feels like couple of hundreds lumen light and has an asymteric spot to limit blinding other people... And you can swap 18650 cells on long rides. P.S: It may be better to use some standarized 'middle of the pack cells' when testing, to separate performance of the flashlight from performance of the battery. For flashlights 5-10C cells should be more than enough (10C means discharge current of in mA of 10*capacity in mAh). Anyway, keep up the good work: )

A while back I was looking for new rear bilstein shocks for my truck. I checked amazon over a few weeks. One day a pair of those shocks came up for $129, much less than the usual $99 each. Seeing the -50% amazon price, I decided to go with it, only to be shipped ONE shock for 30 dollars above market price. When I went back to the listing, the picture of two shocks had changed to one, as well as the description, but I had screenshots. Seller ended up giving me a full refund and amazon sent me a free replacement shock. But the point is, the listing changes are real, and they can bite you in the ass quick. ALWAYS screenshot if you have even a hint of suspicion. Amazon needs to up their QC game... And by that I mean have any seller qc at all.

the completely unethical review hijacking/product page editing on Amazon is SO out of hand. I review a LOT of Amazon products through their Vine program, mostly from these small marketplace vendors. Every time I see that the product page has been edited to/from a completely different product my review is an instant 1-star. Amazon really needs to either lock down product listings to permanently tie them to reviews for that exact item and/or force any product listing edits to be approved through an actual human review process Anyway, I always appreciate these types of product reviews you do, and especially you calling these sellers out for their unethical BS

Flashlights are the only reason why i subscribed to this channel, keep up the good work!

It's like the wild west days of online retailing. One day we'll look back on these days and say we were there in those wild times of incredible claims.

Whatever happened to the truth in advertising laws?

Been using my ts32 for about a year now. I also have p45 cells. It's a great light I took the handle off and it fits in my cup holder nice. Would recommend

Thank you so much for making these videos! Very helpful.

As someone who works with global machine shops and suppliers, I have on many occasions encountered potential suppliers supplying perfect first articles for validation and then shipping unusable junk after validation is approved. Once had a Chinese hardware supplier provide a Grade 2 spec bolt (lowest standard grade) that failed pressure testing at half its designed load. There response: it was wasn't a grade 2 bolt, it was a bolt made from "grade 2 steel". "Grade 2 steel" isn't a standard way of classifying steel. They sent good samples then got caught send garbage pot metal bolts for production use.

A word of caution, XHP with numbers other than 35, 50 or 70 have nothing to do with Cree, one of the flashlights (torches for us Brits) has XHP160.5 on its box.

Thanks for another great vid! I think another reason these companies change specs & offerings so frequently is to spread the bad reviews around. Let's face it, if any one of those offerings you tested were to remain unchanged for long enough, nobody would be willing to waste their money, since 1 star reviews would dominate, (except for all the fake 5 star reviews, but that's a theme for another day).

The product page changes go well beyond just changing description and specs. I've seen stuff completely change items (often unrelated) and they keep their old ratings, reviews, etc. Amazon turned into ebay 2.0 over the last few years.

Excellent, thanks! This should be shown to business and marketing classes.

You should be able to return these to Amazon as not as described on the website, but Amazon has a habit of "firing" customers who return too many items. I wish lawmakers would quit whining about how Amazon is abusing the poor third party sellers and instead focus on how Amazon is conspiring with shady Chinese firms to commit fraud with inflated specifications, counterfeit UL certifications, and items that fail to meet minimal safety standards.

Nice Job. A lot of work. Thank you.

I use the Nitecore MH12 Pro myself. It uses a 5300mhA 21700 and outputs about 3300 Lumen with the turbo, but I usually use the 1200 high mode, since Turbo drains the battery and overheats the LED after a short time. And 1200 Lumen is more then enough.

Way to be straight up and factual. Love it

Thank you for the review. I have always wondered how some manufacturers could make such absurd and dishonest claims without being punished.

thanks for your tests!

Few times I took apart those cheap batteries. They are so empty, when open them it in quiet room you can hear vacuum suck air inside... I bet that someone already think about putting inside them sand to make them feel heavier :D

Another brilliant video. Thank you.

I love these flashlight testing episodes.

Your tests and channel are awesome. I would love to see you test Zebralight and Armytek and Acebeam.

I love watching these flashlight comparisons, you should test UV lights at some point!

With this I can finally become the gnat lord

I'm a budget minded light freak from the incandescent days of candlepowerforums. I've since switched to headlamps and they've literally saved my life a couple times mountaineering, whitewater, and rock climbing. I've owned maybe 40 over the years but have been stuck on Fenix as of late. The line refactor and new models are a bit weird and not sure i like the quality of light but could you test some? All-time favorite headlamp Fenix HL60R and the "too-bright for anything normal but great for seeing 60m up a cliff while climbing" HM70R. I can lend you mine if it makes things easier.

Do they make / have you tried any tools with the lifepo4 batteries? cheers

I have the first flashlight but rebranded,was used quiet extensively doing MOT checks!

Great review, video, as always. I have a question: Did you measure the light output in strobe mode? When I had access to the equipment, I did on a couple of flashlights the kids got as gifts and they were generating around twice the intensity as in "normal" mode. The reason was that since it's not operating in CC mode, they were overdriving the LED. Not saying that any of your test subjects would have met their claims in strobe, but it might be fun to add that measurement if it differs from from normal mode.

Please test and compare convoy flashlights next.

I know alot of you are upset with Amazon and using words like false advertising and fraud, but none of that really matters because once someone blows that 600Db airhorn we're all dead anyway. Just enjoy life while you can.

MY EYESSSS oh wait nah I'm fine.

Thank you for doing this. I admit, I don't know the technical info but I get the gist. I've seen many ads for supe-duper flashlights and been tempted by some of them, but my brother-in-law has a friend who got one and the battery self-ignited so that's kind of a problem.

If a flashlight actually put out a million lumens, it wouldn't be a flashlight anymore, it'd be a weapon. You could start fires with just the light from it.

Test the LED headlight for hardhats or just slipping on to walk the dogs. I have 2 Smiling Shark brand lights with 230° COB lights along the front and a separate thrower. Once fully charged, these lights begin dimming after a few minutes. I found if the on/off sensor is on and you wave 👋🏼 to turn light off, wave again and it comes on at 💯 again. But yes, I have found using these headlamps frees up my hands when walking the dogs. Great content

dam fresh ass video

Another great video thank you!!

I use streamlight regulated 18650s with the built in charging circuit in my cheap flashlights so I know there’s at least one good regulation circuit involved. I also don’t charge in the flashlight since I may as well add some caution to my caution.

Your channel is gold. Keep it up

One could make a case with an attorney for false advertisements, but that may be a goose chase. Thank you for the reviews!

Just for the record, Sofirn and Wurkkos all use the same factory to produce their products, but they're independent and separate companies. There's even a bit of rivalry between them, as each takes their lights in different directions. I'm a fan of both Sofirn and Wurkkos, and have quite a bunch of their lights, and they're largely quite good. And unlike other mfrs, both use their own branded cells which are also quite good (usually) Lishen cells, which may not be 30Qs or VTC6es, but I always test the come-with cells, and they always clock in within 10% if not 5% of their rated mAH. "Rule of thumb" is that a reputable mfr's cells that are self-branded (Wurkkos, Sofirn, Wuben, Acebeam, Nitecore, etc.) are almost universally good-to-excellent cells. No-name generic-wrapped cells from alphabet-soup name companies are usually crap, pulled from recycle bins which is a *HUGE* industry in a certain large Asian country. So what *was* a good 5000mAH 26650 is now a recycled-and-rewrapped 2000mAH cell slipped into a Wsinawoo or Bebopadoo generic light.

This is the first video I've seen on this channel; it just popped up in my list. I enjoy videos where people conduct thorough reviews, testing out all the different features. I've now subscribed to this channel for all future videos. With a million lumens, you could probably blind someone-likely worse than a flash grenade, lol. I must say, I did get a small Olight I3E 90 lm that uses a AAA battery, and it works quite well. Of course, it doesn't last very long-45 minutes with an alkaline battery and 70 minutes with NiMH, according to the specifications. I just use it to check the mailbox at night about three to four times a month. The battery lasts me quite a while. I check the mailbox at one of my jobs where I have to pick up mail at night. I go through the mail for mine and leave the rest. Imagine if it had a million lumens and you could focus that beam. You could probably blind people from miles away, lol.

This is how investigavite journalism used to be. Thanks for the video!

That's why I like companies like Olight who truly test lumens, candela, runtime and give the result of their tests.

@Torque Test Channel have you done testing of the major tool brands flashlights that use their regular tool batteries? Models like DCL040, PCL660, 2735-20, and others.

Very happy with my Sofirn lights, really good value for what you get. I don't have the tools to test them myself, but the lumen capability seems consistent enough between the different flashlights I've purchased.

1.21 gigalumens! Great scott!

These lumens have Zimbabwe’s inflation. They ended up with a 100,000,000,000,000 (100T) dollar bill. Looking forward to many years of these reviews.

I'd love to see a top 10 flashlights, not made in China (or from Amazon) if that is even possible. Thanks for your great work.

hi body. witch flashlight is best zoomable flashlight?

Great Video as usual

8:23 That spot is small, but is willing to travel for the job. Cute, I chuckled.

Can u test streamlight tlr 1 hl surefire x300 turbo and olight valkyrie pl pro

WOW, you guys are great!!!

Very good. Thank you.

It would be awesome to see you test large weapon lights, something like the Surefire HellFighter.

I really like the Wuben C3 flashlight. Bought 2 of them. Great bang for the buck IMO.

Grsat vodeo. Thanks for putting up the money to show that looking for quality is best.

I'm looking for a lantern/night fishing light just to light up around us and also a direct spotlight used to get the brightest direct beam any suggestions? I'm not looking at spending a bunch maybe $120 for both

That 2:10 Blue battery has 2 batteries wrapped as one... you could cut them apart without risk, they are just joined with wrap.

Frankenlight, how many pieces of different flashlights fit together and could that make a better flashlight?

ever seen LEP flashlights? should really give them a shotvid like to see how they measure

This is right up there with shop vacs saying they are 5hp and plugging into 120V @15A. Even with 100% power factor (hint it’s not even close) and 100% efficient motors we are talking 1800watts available and a horsepower is about 746 watts. 2.4 is the max under physics and 1.5 is the max in reality and 1.0 - 1.3 is about the most and still be up to electrical codes.

Nice one here in the uk fishing from the bank and casting like 150 yards and these torches will help me out when night fishing and seeing my lead plop

Would love to see you guys review the litez all Kodiak Kong flashlight I have the previous version and it’s ridiculously bright!

Great review:)

You should try this with the tool brands 20v work lights (Milwaukee/dewalt)!!

Can you recommend a great flashlight with a _wide_ beam? I ride a Onewheel and I often ride trails in the dark. I need a flashlight that isn't just a single bright hotspot. I need a super wide beam so the trail is lit evenly edge to edge.

Do you think you will ever test LEP Laser flashlights?

Do you test head torches/ head lamps ?

finaly the video i have been waiting for

Interesting as always.

Nice! We've done almost 700 flashlight reviews so far, and could easily tell those to be exaggerated ;) 1,000,000 lumens... :D The brightest top 5 together don't even come close to 1 million lumens.

Can you guys figure out a way to compare the major tool brand work lights?

I had forgotten my trustfire mc12 laying under a car and when I backed up I put a little dent in it. Eh the battery won't slide out but everything works just fine. I probably lose it before I need a new batterie. Also a great fan of nitecore flashlights. The ones I use are all small and turbo mode is just blindingly bright and 1 lumen low mode I perfect enough light to see in pitch black darkness to see where you going.

Sofirn lights are beautifully made, are as advertised and a very decent price, plus has advanced settings and features to your basic flash lights.

I asked them about the weight of their batteries. Their answer in broken English was, the batteries get heavier when full, they are sent empty so they weigh less. I laughed. Then did an Amazon return. After writing a warning note to anyone they try to flip this to.

I found this channel from that OG flashlight video. Was deer hunting season, and one we shot ran into the back woods at closing on a rainy day. After trying to navigate dark, rainy woods with a AA powered flashlight out of a horror game, I decided it was time for something that would turn that woods into day. That Goreit while specs are massively false advertised is a pretty badass flashlight. I got 3 of the older versions and 1 of the new ones. Plus the interstate sleeper you tested. Love the videos.

Strobe and SOS modes on flashlights are like the bottle opener of multitools 😂😂 Gotta have them on every product to exist.

Thoughts on the wuben x1?

my rule of thumb is simple, ~1200 max out of a well made light using quality single 18650s. with an average of around 5-600 for cheaper ones, _at best_. more likely to find ~300 or less. the higher they jack the lumens up, the lower i'd rate it for actual.

Here in the UK I have found that Amazon is now the expensive and riskiest place to shop and almost never buy from them. I just wish my wife will one day come to understand this too.

Would’ve had to test the Sofirn Q8 Pro

When are you guys going to start testing color temperature and CRI?

It would be interesting to add color temperature to your tests, several of those look purple-blue instead of white to me

The Sofirn Q8+ is a beast of a light for less than half of the Wurkkos. If you use the Molicels and bypass the negative springs you can safely hit 20k lumens.

I recently bought a Wuben from Amazon and it's really well built and bright.

The wurrkos lights are great value. I’ve got a ton of them and they compete with any of my comparable Olights.