Air comes from electricity... basically they are just scamming the government to not pay taxes and still be able to be pedos with out being investigated by us english. But now they are too lazy to swing a hammer
Because apparently God is so stupid he cannot figure out thier tricks. I just don't get it, use the tools available, but continue to live a simple life. All of this "trickery" of getting around the rules of thier god just completely destroys any credibility. It proves that if they want something bad enough they will convince themselves it is OK even if it is a clear and blatant violation of thier rules.
@@just73319women preachers. Or women doing anything during the worship service. Thinking you can remarry after divorcing for anything other than infidelity
@@Gubble-oq6dn Yup. -and I wish we lived in that world. The 'disconnect' between consumers and where / what their food / products come from / are, has been a major exploit for consumer abuse.
@@LRK-GT Even if you use 100% coal power to charge an EV, less carbon was emmitted per mile. The efficiencies you get from a powerplant and an AC electric motor make it still a more eco friendly vehicle.
I’m sure they think the same about us they seem nice enough though I’ve heard nothing but positive things about them going above and beyond helping complete strangers, they pick and choose what they want to use just like we pick and choose what we want to use they just do it on a more uniform community level rather then a society and individual like us
@12many4you lmao you're dense bud. It made sense. Wetter it be as state, your smaller local community or family every group of people in society pick and chose as what is a societal norm or not. That's why certain states can feel like you a different country entirely compared to what you're used to as normal everyday life. And no shit them being lovely people doesn't have nothin to do with nothin sure glad we got Sherlock over here. All he was doing was prefacing his opinion he didn't say that they live that way because they're nice, nobody tied those two separate statements together but you. Get a hold of yourself and stop sniffing your own leaky booty farts...hopefully it'll make you less of a twat to strangers on the internet.
@@12many4youas much as I disagree with them, they have a complete hold of themselves. Just because someone’s making a point contrary to you doesn’t mean they don’t have a grip
I used to drive the Amish. They would not own power tools in the area I was in, but they could use them if you let them borrow them. They would end up paying me to borrow my tools. I told them not to worry about it, but they still paid me. They paid me for driving too. There was a lot of them. So suddenly. I ended up have 8-10 of every tool. Lol. Great people. Hard working. We got pulled over one time. The officer saw me and looked in the back of the van and saw a bunch of Amish. He just said, you hard working folks have a great day. To this day, I don't know why he even pulled us over. Lol.
@Ben-fk9ey They had so many rules idek how they remembered them all. Even after working with them for over a year, the children were still not allowed to talk to me. They have I think a "Bishop" who decides the rules over however much area.
My mom had an Amish family build her a dining room table. We were poor and she asked them for help. We still have the same table 29 years later. It pulls apart with gears and rails in the middle and has extentions that lay flat in the middle so when you want a bigger table you pull it apart and slip as many extensions in as you need. It can seat up to 16 people.
The fact they use work around means it's more about semantics than religion in my eyes. They clearly forgot the original intent. And paying someone to do it (driving, operating compressor) doesn't obsolve them, because of their intent.
@@mikebolton3816I feel like it makes it worse. If a god did exist, I would think He wouldn't be too happy about a certain group of people feeling clever by working around the rules they think He wants them to follow. It's like they think they're successfully tricking a diety... lol
People don't understand the Amish. There is no rule that says "you can't use technology" They decide locally on items they can or can't use. Generally speaking, if the technology is for personal reasons (entertainment, status, vanity) then they don't allow it. But if the technology is for betterment of community (construction tools) or for practicing a trade or service (telephone) then they are usually allowed for work purposes. Each different community has their own rules because they all vote independently about what is OK and what isn't
they use a hell of a lot less than the rest of the religious nuts in the states. i respect the hell out of the amish for actually keeping with their traditions and following their beliefs as closely as possible
It’s actually just one. The transport one. None of the other things are loopholes at all. Their faith prohibits electric devices so they use oil and air powered devices, it’s not a loophole it’s just following the rule.
I rode with a buddy one time to pick up a couple Amish guys that were going to put an addition on his horse barn. My buddy cut down some of his own trees to make lumber out of. I'm not a carpenter so excuse me for not knowing the exact name for this. We hooked up a piece of their equipment to my buddies truck to haul back with us. It ran on gas so we had to stop and fill up multiple gas cans. This thing would take the big ass trees my buddy cut and trimmed down and cut them into usable lumber. I didn't think they could use gas powered equipment but they could. He paid them an agreed upon $20 an hour cash and even though he had spare rooms in his big farm house they chose to sleep in the existing hey loft instead. They were there for a week and did an incredible job. I always admired the building skills they have and the simplistic life they lead just like everyone had to back in the day. There is only one problem I have with some but not all and it's major in my book and that's the puppy mills. We have some by our house and I swear every week they are listing another litter of who knows what. The female dogs are restrained and are nothing more than breeding machines to them. They mix everything with anything and there is definitely so inbreeding going on. (Referring to the dogs). Very cruel and sad when you see it first hand. We had no idea what we walked into and we felt so bad for an older puppy that looked like it was tossed in with another litter that we took her home. Very overpriced and she has some issues but overall a wonderful dog. If we wouldn't have taken her I guarantee she would have been forced to have puppies until she couldn't anymore. No regrets
I worked for an OTR company that had a terminal in Bloomfield IN. This company hired the Amish to build that terminal in Bloomfield IN. It was a great terminal to be in when I got there. The town was great too!
@@tylerwestman5258 no they quite litterally have lights that run on propane, they run gas lines into the house like wiring and have manual igniters in em. propane lanturns fixed to the wall basically. friends of mine bought an ol amish farm and had to wire it up and it had gas lights in ti and they left them for if the power goes out
@@tylerwestman5258 I know that. Also know about propane fridges. I'm talking about the mental gymnastics they are doing. Can't do A, but I can use A if someone else presses the button. So, the gaslight is "We don't .....", but you do with a work around. Which kind of defeats the point. I'm sure not all do that and some don't play these games, maybe most. But these that are? They deserve any derision coming their way.
I don’t wanna take your smile away, but i do wanna correct that there is no “original idea” it’s always been an evolving idea, since the inception of christianity, every time a group splits off they don’t usually make up new rules, they continue and evolve old rules that continue to evolve generation after generation, and frankly the work arounds they use(like the goy) are older than christianity itself.
Not only are the Amish good builders, they are also amazing bakers! We once stopped at a gas station during a road trip like 15 years ago and there were some local Amish people selling baked goods. Their pies were hands down the best pies I ever had
I visit my Amish friends once a year in Pennsylvania,I met them in 2012 I'm from Florida I was in Pennsylvania and broke down middle of winter,2 am a man came walking through a field and offered me help,we went to his house his wife and kid's were so nice to me, and I'm a woman and had reveling clothing on but they treated me like a queen, Next day he fixed my car, But while I was there I learned they made holsters and rifle stocks,To this day I buy all my gun stuff from him, Beautiful craftsmanship
They still use good old fashioned hammers and hand saws around here. Seen em put up a 2000 square foot barn in 2 days from prepping the land to painting the siding. Majorly impressive work
They had a barn fire on an Amish farm probably 10,000 sq ft barn the Amish came the next day it was all removed in 2 days and two weeks later a full timber framed barn was up.
Rather be a Mennonite if you are going down that road. Keep it simple, but a lot less mental gymnastics. Got some a few miles from me in Massachusetts. Talked to one of their head guys a few years ago. He was involved in their schooling. Came from the Midwest and really came for the job. Liked it, stayed, got married, had kids. Mentioned Amish and he smirked. "Modern" Mennonites that's their definition, have no issues with internet, TV, cars, trucks, computers..... You'd be hard pressed to pick a Mennonite guy out of a lineup based on clothes. The women dress more like Amish women (at least around here). No idea if they have to or just want to.
I have mennonites near me, far as I understand the women are required to make their own clothing while mean are free to wear whatever pretty much. That’s why they dress so differently
The Amish are some of the most skilled people I’ve ever met and learned about they do good solid work. They have zero distractions from the outside world. They’re skill is amazing and his honed from a very young age I like them.
@@rogerscurlock2927tornado went through the edge of my town, and the only buildings still standing was the amash community. Ive yet to see a construction built home or barn as sturdy as the amash make them. And some of them dont even use nails or screws.
Never thought of this. We got lot of Amish that live around where I live in Minnesota. We got the two types, Old school and the New way (which isn't amish but apparently still is)
I was just down at that Amish lumberyard in Bloomfield all the forklifts are walk behind and I believe gas lanterns or something inside for lights pretty neat
The thing with the Amish is that in the less Orthodox communities, they are generally allowed to use _some_ modern luxuries, like electricity and power tools under a few conditions. Firstly, it's not connected to the grid. That's still a worldly connection, thus the huge amount of air powered tools, as a compressor which can keep up with all that is usually cheaper than a generator that could keep up with all the tools if they were electric. With a generator, you need one big enough to sustain even the highest of peak loads, with a compressor you only need it to keep up with the average air usage, the air tank will take care of the rest. With vehicles, they usually pay a non-amish person to drive them around, that payment may be in labor, material goods, or direct monetary compensation, depending on the community and the situation. They can even use indoor plumbing to an extent as long as it's not owned by anyone in the community, and it's not in their house. If they're doing work for somebody and that worksite has indoor plumbing, they are allowed to use it. It's somewhat similar to what Orthodox Jewish Synagogues do on the Sabbath. They have one or two non-jews on payroll to manage everything that they're not allowed to, like turning on lights and shit like that. There have been Sabbath services held in near complete darkness because the resident pleb got stuck in traffic or something.
They make up the rules as they go. They don't have social security numbers and pay no taxes. All money goes to the church and then to them. Seems really good for your local construction company's who aren't dodging the tax man.
sounds awful lot like unions to me. union takes the money, makes up rules on the fly. but unlike union jobs, Amish jobs arent generally over budget, behind schedule and arent pussies if a few drop of rain fall
@kadoogan93 prove it. None that I've interacted with in southern Pennsylvania or northern Maryland have or want one. All payments are going to the church, which is tax exempt, then the church pays the workers.
Imagine thinking up loop holes and spaghetti logic to outwit your sky fairies edicts and thinking you will go to sky fairy heaven. I'm impressed by their ingenuity if not their ideology. 😂
Yeah, the bishop 'decides' the illicit thing isn't illicit anymore OR if Amish pay non-Amish to facilitate the illicit thing. As if a god would be fooled by such a workaround 🤣🤣
Yep, they went from "all technology after 1693 is evil" to "well we can benefit from air compressor as long as a disgusting worldly sinner is the one to touch it"
Took orders from an Amish community. They’d call from the community phone, there was no two way contact period. Barely finishing the company greeting, they’d interrupt with “I need to place an order quickly”. I got used to them. No one else would take their orders Lol
@@DefendTheStarthat's a Dewalt electric circular saw with an air motor sticking out through a hole in the end of the motor housing, and an air hose hanging out the cord hole with no strain relief, ya, this is a custom conversion lol There are companies that build pneumatic circular saws for use underwater or in mines or whatever, but they are incredibly expensive, and someone handy could convert one a lot cheaper.
That's their entire scam. We are stuck paying taxes, so they can enjoy our roads and services, then pretend they don't, while paying someone to drive them around 🙄
Listen to Dale Earnhardt Jr.s podcast with Marlin Yoder. I had no idea that podcast would bring me to tears. That being said, I still respect the Amish community.
I grew up in Lancaster County. Knew many amish families. Even served in the military with a former amish guy. He told me that what goes on in the amish community would make the catholic church blush.
The tax evasion comment doesn’t really make sense. If it’s being used for a business activity then it’s a legitimate expense and can be written off. Whether it was the church leasing it or individuals, it wouldn’t change much.
Would you live without electricity and modern amenities or modern technology just for a tax break? That literally makes no sense whatsoever. You giving to much up for simple tax breaks. Noone would do it it it was just purely for that reason.
Certainly does, appreciates it even... they sneak one by him, he double checks that the loopholes legit, closes the rulebook, stares off blankly, smiles and says "We'll, I'll be Me Damned... Jesus, They know every letter of this book" "Hey Dad, you need me or something?thought i heard you call out just now"
Except none of the rules you guys are talking about were put in place by god. They made their own rules. It’s to preserve family, tradition, yadda yadda.
@saladdressing2781 Except they still say you're a sinner and you won't get into heaven if you do worldly things. If you break the "lifestyle" you are shunned by the church and its entire community. So really they've entangled it so much it's become the religion.
I used to drive for a crew in the local community. Rules were pretty much they could operate anything but couldn’t own it and once the work day ended the stuff all stayed with the driver, including work phone and such.
They also don't pay workmans comp insurance. You get a crew of 10 for the price of 2 because of all of the child labor and the people that follow the rules can't compete.
Heck the Amish near us uses LED lighting for their carriages, run by a solar panel and battery, and illuminate the barns with a similar larger setup. So the cows can read at night I guess.
He's speaking truth, the dairy farm around the corner from my house had amish doing all the framing...had a dude operating the boom lift and all the air tools out...banged it out in a week!
My stepdad was the driver for an amish crew for a while did some work to since he had a background in construction we have new order amish kids with electric scooters and their dads and older siblings mostly all have “work” cellphones they use battery power and use forklifts tractors all sorts of stuff but sometimes theyll get yankies to help with certain stuff still
I've never met a people so devoted to their religion while also tip toeing the line of "That Milwaukee saw sure would make this go faster but Jebediah will kill me if I get caught." 😂
I live in ohio, we have Amish everywhere, and I gotta say I love them! , they are some of the nicest, hardworking people ever and they are absolutely incredible when it comes to building, iv seen builders take weeks for a simple shed, iv seen Amish have a 5 star barn done in less then 3 days.... they are mericle workers!!!!!!
I actually would love to live the Amish life style, and be part of that community! Mainly because they help each other out!Nowadays you can’t even get your own family members to give you a helping hand!
Id rather live in a country where we can make any origination we want, as long if its not bullshit commie shit... I don't like Amish lifestyle, but people have the freedom to join. I REFUSE TO CONTROL PEOPLE WHO HAVE FREE WILL. 🇺🇸🦅!!!!
The Amish where I live have new pickup trucks and all the toys. They keep em in a warehouse and take their buggies to and from home to keep up the image.
When my disabled Vet Uncle passed away in Ohio the Amish community came together and cleaned and rebuilt my Aunts house to help her sell it. We are not Amish but they believe in community which includes everyone....
A friend of mine is building a house, he could not find commercial wood that is not twisted. So he went to an Amish sawmill, he gets dried fully demential lumber that is straight as an arrow. He transports the lumber himself but the framing crew loves the wood.
Our Amish people that redid my barn roof used battery tools. I wasn't actually there when they worked but it looked like they were charging them with my 110. They also drank the crap out of redbull and loved danimals
Not all Amish crews are the same I do believe there is a group called the Meningitis who can use electric tools. I'm no expert but I've worked around them on a cow farm and I see them using sky jacks and skidsteers and electric tools. They are really hard workers and good people.
Amish contractor built an add-on for us they drove used modern tools think maybe they were mennanites or something maybe not straight up Amish but very good quality
