How Are Dealerships Still Getting Away With This? 

I feel like this was the first real comment

The "stupidity" is on the PEOPLE who buy these insanely overpriced cars.GREEDY!dealerships making double!!!THE ONLY WAY THIS PRICE GOUGING STOPS IS WHEN PEOPLE STOP LETTING THEMSELVES BE RIPPED OFF...

@@speeddemon123555555 BINGO!

@@speeddemon123555555 many people don’t have a choice, they need a vehicle to go to work so that they can afford basic things, it’s always seen as it’s the consumer’s fault, but it’s really the dealerships that add in their market adjustment prices that are way far off

It's the same people that are buying the new nvidia cards lol

Hey people are rich maybe they do it on purpose so common folk can't get them and they get to keep everything to themselves. Greedy pigs

Another reason is you can't get around without a car. People think newer cars are more safer and reliable too.

@@austinhernandez2716Yes, you're both right. You can't get around without a car. A car means freedom. A car is your ticket to doing what you want, when you want it. And, unless you live directly in the middle of a small town or big city, you're not going to be able to walk to obtain all your creature-comforts needs. Therefore, one NEEDS a car....so, ome must BUY a car, if they do not have it, or if their current one isn't working, and the stealerships KNOW you, the consumer, have no choice but to buy and pay what they're asking. It's a shame. If only there was less regulation on the marketplace, competition could thrive and prices would decrease. 100,000 units at $20K is more profitable than 50,000 units at $35K.

@@alexledford4747 have u ever heard of buying a car used

@@ak_getright9905 Used cars are also at a premium right now though

YES. For like a golf. Here in The Netherlands you for example can buy a very good ford focus rs/st from 2018 for about €10.000,-. If i see these prices my mind just melts.

Combination of inflation, more tech, and more demand for specific cars

😅😅

Wasn't that last Z markup 150%?

They get away with it because people are stupid and bad with their money.

Or double MSRP like the Bronco Raptor.... 76k markup? WTF!

agreed, i will buy used IMMEDIATELY 😂😂

Hope you blasted them all over social media for that one. That's slimy AF how they did you dirty like that.

@2WhiteAndNerdy I've been talking with the manager and if they want to correct themselves I'll let it go. I told them to sell me the very next type r they get for msrp and I'll be good. The original deal was msrp plus some dumb accessories. If they don't do anything then yea I'll post the dealer everywhere.

@@bowjangles510 do it ASAP, don't wait. You'll be waiting for years

Man can't you take them to court (is that how you spell it in english??)?? Or was there specified in the contract they could drop your deposit as they wished?

Don't sue, lawyers don't work. Expose them on Twitter, post the names and places. That does more damage!

Yeah agree. Eyes closed tome his voice sounds exactly like Nolan. 😂

Wait is that for real? Those exist in America? Mind naming yours (or others if you're uncomfortable)

Because they sell cars for the price people pay for them?

The Dealership system is nothing more than a racket

I’ve never in my life heard anyone call it a stealership

@@CT-zi8em then clearly you've lived a very sheltered life.

Wow good one mate Did you think of that yourself ?

lol that was great

lmaoo 😂😂😂

The dealerships win.

nah, I'm from india

The Sienna at 3:30 is being sold at Roseville Toyota which is owned by the dealership group Lithia Motors Inc. which currently owns 280 dealerships across the US.

Agreed!!

I can almost guarantee the Type R in San Jose they mentioned was from Stevens Creek Honda

You’re complaining about the free market

@@-SP. those Roseville Toyota dudes are shady AF!

they don't care there will a buyer waiting at 15k or more over

A dealer that was asking for 5k mark-up on the Si was asking 30k mark-up for the Type R. Making that the most expensive Type R in the country? Lol. It made the 15k mark up my Si dealer asked sound like a steal! Unfortunately I don’t want to get rid of rev hang (and heat soak?) that bad lol. I’ll look at buying one later, but according to top gear I think, Honda is only planning to sell hundreds, not thousands, so the mark-ups might be permanent due to demand. The GR Corolla is even worse apparently.

You can't get a Lexus Is 500 for 60,000 if you were related to Ichira Toyoda himself right now. Lexus dealers are doing even higher markups.

When I was lookin to buy my civic ~ a year ago, everything from Oakland to San Jose was marked up close 10-15K cause they tacked on a bunch of over priced nonnegotiable options. Had to audacity to say it wasn’t marked up.

@@FallingRiceballz Anything JDM is waaaay overpriced right now. I laughed when I saw civics with prices of Mercedes. I was like nope. I can turn wrenches for a few more years. 😅

@@angelgjr1999 I wasn’t even looking for a touring, just the sport hatchback. Had to drive 2 hours and still paid 5k above msrp. Got the color I wanted though 😂

@@FallingRiceballz Sheesh. I hope you don’t regret it.

Anything car is over priced atm. But if you really want one, get it out of state.. Better luck at getting them at msrp

How many Hi Car Subie? Gasket go boom in smoke.

Dealerships would be even more worried, if Donut named them in these videos.

People can just atleast Google the MSRP before paying for the markups 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@rajgami8893 that's true, but you just end up finding out that all the dealerships in your area are screwing you. With nothing you can do about it.

I hope your commissions are at least seeing a bigger cut of the rapage. Otherwise every salesperson should be walking off the lot and letting the @$$hole managers do some work they scream about for once.

To afford a 65k truck at a 36 month loan with payment less than 10% of monthly take home, they need to make 325k a year. If it's s 60 month then still 200k a year. Is that the case ?

On some of the 180k-200k+ cars is literally the same car payment as a mortgage. Finance companies are gonna have to offer 15 and 20 year loans or just not sell cars anymore if American companies dont raise wages.

And NOT having their cars (seriously bruv)!!!!

@@BlackStigv it’s forza what did you expect.

It gave some life to a game where you pretty quickly run out things to do

Thanks to Forza for making it awful

@@nah3193 with a whopping...drum roll please......FIVE sub stories! wooooooo!

At that point that's sketchy business practices and Dealers should be transparent. Consumers need to put their foot down and stop buying cars to tank the market.

That is clearly some kind of masochistic kink

They are already into monetary-control, embarrassment, and shame kinks so it will only turn them on more.

Who TF cares. Markups on cars is the best thing that can happen. Personal vehicle ownership should be highly controlled especially in urban areas. We need to shame people with multiple vehicles and houses.

@@TheTransitmtl Deduct point on their social credit score

Some need to find another hobby ffs

Except it's causing the opposite. Car dealers are still charging the same absurd markup, but publicly they just say "Call for Pricing" they're just getting more underhanded

Not just the dealer. MSRP on a 10 speed Mustang GT is $50k+. The average american barely makes more than that. And for many, the mustang would be a weekend car.

​@@gerald4535 really? Ever mustang owner I know daily drives them. Maybe a fully modded out one would be a weekender, but those are daily drivers unless we're talking a shelby or something. The prices are still silly though, agree on that

@@dubsessed9790 he said average. Your friend group is not reality. Try hanging out with the rich business guys they own astons and ferraris...

The bubble is bursting my friend so we can all take a deep breathe pretty soon. I been looking for a specific car on autotrader/cargurus/etc and I've been getting notifications of these cars dropping in price daily via email. Supply is finally coming back around and now dealers will soon be flooded with inventory. But, w're still stuck with over 8% inflation which is a big huge stinking pile.

But that's not true at all. It's because you can't buy directly from manufacturers. It's a middle man that Jack's up the prices. Also not everyone is willing to drive. But let's be real, in America that's your only option. No one is going to walk 2 hours for a handful of groceries along a 5 lanes freeway with no safe sidewalk or crosswalk. Cities are only designed for cars, everything else is almost entirely neglected. Because that's freedom, apparently.

Yes, don't pay if you don't want to

@@austinhernandez2716 Do you think manufacturers would not adjust prices to fit market conditions as well? The difference is that the manufacturers are more likely to have consistent pricing across the board, rather than the current situation where you can shop around. For non-car purchases, I often check the manufacturer's website to see what prices they post to compare with retailers. In those cases, the MSRP is basically the max price the item could normally sell for, and that is what the manufacturer often posts, while retailers sell it for that (but with free shipping or some other benefit), or even a discount. Then, as the item gets older, and especially if a new model is introduced, the retailer will continue to mark the item down, while the manufacturer keeps it at MSRP. I believe car manufacturers being able to sell cars directly would be a good thing, but I do not think it would be a panacea for car prices. It would help stabilize them, but once inventory recovers and dealerships have cars on the lot again, there will be plenty of people who want to walk into the dealership, look at the options, test drive a few, then drive out with their new car.

Manufacturers spend millions researching the development of a car. When dealerships pull this shit, it fudges the sales numbers potentially causing a car company to discontinue a car due to poor sales. The Ford focus RS is a perfect example. Dealerships overcharging 30-40% caused the car not to sell well and Ford pulled the plug.

@@joeyy2207 huh?

Not price gouging - it's a market economy and you DON'T HAVE TO PAY WHAT THEY ARE ASKING. There are thousands of car dealerships in the country. Find a different one.

@@VideoArchiveGuy It's definitely price gouging. A Ford Maverick base model is supposed to be just around $20k, and every single dealerships have been jacking them up.

@@Tylnorton No it's not "gouging" - this isn't food, no one NEEDS a Maverick. Dealers should charge whatever people are willing to pay. Really, they should take bids for each car and sell it for the highest bid, the way real estate works. If they charge too much, it sits on the lot. The way to find the market price is to start with a high markup then lower it slowly until it sells. Anything else and you're leaving money on the table, that makes no sense. If you had something someone would give you $1000 for, would you sell it for $10 just because?

Ford

Lol when pigs fly man. They're chasing profit

They don’t care. Manufacturers get paid when they wholesale to the dealer.

I didn't get my dream car, but I got a vehicle I wanted at 5k below MSRP here in southern California just before the pandemic

@@JustaPersonTryinToHuman365 it may not be your dream car but you got a deal that doesn’t excise anymore. Hope you get your dream ride someday

Cars were cheaper since people weren't driving too. My mom got a 2019 Altima SL for $19k. It would have probably been $26-$30k in the peak of the nonsense inflation. Fortunately for me, I got a 2012 F150 I wanted for $10,995 not even 2 weeks ago so at least some prices are starting to come down.

I bought my (not dream car) 13 years ago and I'm still driving that same POS. 😂😂😂

A ford probe?

DONUT AUTO DEALER.....MIGHT BE FAIR WITH HIGH/LOW PRICES/MODS OPTION

Working in the automotive world is like working in the veterinary world. People have such emotional attachments, they will always look at the dealer, the mechanic or the vet as the bad guy when they get bad news.

Still wouldn't happen there's too much overhead costs in operating a dealership.

That already exist bro, it's called the rest of the world. LMOA

@@feckyerlife 🤣🤣🤣 a giant parking lot and paying workers based on a shitty commission scheme isn't high overhead

But… only men are allowed to compete in S.Korean Beauty Pageants, and those are Donut’s *main* source of capital. Why do you think their recent “talent” hires are: • a hairy mechanic. • a very muscular man & Asian Car guru. • a tall, thin, and hairless engineer. All while the other new hire specializes in photography!

@@cjwrench07 You talked a lot for not adding to OP's comment. Go femibash somewhere else.

How do you know he doesn’t have a sausage? 😂

@@kanedaku what the fuck does that even mean?

@@brrrt7623 Okay, since you don't understand, OP said it would be nice to see Kristen more as she works well with the team, then *THAT* person I replied to went off on a tangent complaining about how they haven't hired any women as presenters. First of all, Kristen isn't a presenter here, she's a knowledgeable guest here for her erm.. knowledge. Secondly, for the content of OP's comment, there's no need to go on a rant about how the channel has a sexist line-up. Do you comprehend what I said now? 🙄

That's great and all, but even MSRP on those things is ridiculous. I can't see spending more money on a vehicle, than I did on my home. These vehicle prices have gotten outrageous.

Fast 10 is Dom stealing truckloads of minivans from dealers charging over msrp, and the police aren’t sure who to go after - Dom or the dealerships. In one heist, he puts on a blonde wig and a long dress, and takes one out for a test drive - only to then rip it around a bunch of turns and throw the salesman out the power sliding door.

@@stephen3164 😂😂😂😂

@@stephen3164 I'd actually pay to see that movie, and root for the 'dealer out the door' scene!

@@lego4virgo ejecto seato 2.0!

Lol, you were looking at a rare, 1st year released, high performance car. What exactly did you expect the price to be? And how many did they have on the lot?

@@saultknutz1166 High performance 😆 🤣 😂. It has 300 hp.

@@jpizel1070 lol, doesn't weigh much either. Comes in a manual with AWD that can be split into a rear bias. Some models come with a carbon fiber roof and no back seat. Has a widebody and more than one exhaust. Sounds like high performance to me...

For a corrolla? That is on a whole new level.

@@codorin It's not your average everyday Corolla though...

actually

They're not any better in Canada

Feels bad

Sadly, it's like that around every military base. I was the dumbass E-2 that bought a Mustang at 24% interest 22 years ago lol

If customers pay it, why should they charge less?

Probably ball Kia right there

Manhattan Auto Group fuckin joes in the big red 1 harder than asbestos in the starships.

😂😂😂

@The Hemwick Hag I work 12 hour nights? 😂

@The Hemwick Hag I just assumed you knew how to read considering your comment but I guess I was wrong.

@The Hemwick Hag you found out how to delete your comment but you can't read. Nice lol

@@Garage989 You made a typo in your comment.

@The Hemwick Hag I could ask you the same thing. You seemed pretty salty about my "2 hour" work day.

40k OTD would've been a deal for the new Z. But 40k markup? Hah! They got jokes.

If the banks fail, you wont be getting a loan to buy a damn thing

@The Ace TroubleShooter don't have any debt so I'll be in a better spot than the bank lol. Won't need a loan

What if you lose you job from layoffs? It won’t just be the banks failing

@James Humphrey and what if civilization just crumbles? You get over it and hunt, kill, and scavenge... I'm still out of debt and banks aren't.

Make her a regular! Great knowledge and chemistry.

She's maybe the best writer on The Drive which is a mixed bag for sure. She's definitely solid.

She definitely blew them all after the show she'll be back

He usually like that when girls next to him

Looool

lmao I was thinking the same thing, that'll buy you a decent house around my parts

220,000 will buy you a hell of a nice home here in Alabama.

@@blazervol3357 Yeah gotta love the South lol.

I think he meant $220,000 would get you a good home. Now it's the price of a car. That or it's California which is also ridiculous about home prices as the car prices.

@@blazervol3357 yeah but what's the median salary in that place?

It’s the 72 month sale terms that makes these sales possible, those should be banned. At $800 a payment a $100k car is suddenly possible for a family, when that used be $1800 a month minimum

We built car centric cities and made it the only way to have a job and get groceries and such. We should be getting cars subsidized and not inflated this way. Always makes me sick when the prices of stuff increases a crazy amount and then the company has the audacity to go, “new record profits we have never seen before.” Like, guess the free market isn’t really working now, as there is nothing to stop dealerships from raising prices as we have literally no other way to buy them.

@@lazyfoxplays8503 truly insane financing terms has allowed the base price of a starter car to climb from $7000 to $26k and has allowed a lot of manufacturers including Ford, GM, even Volkswagen to just get rid of starter cars entirely and price their lowest models at $39k and up. It’s crazy. Back when you paid $7000 for a car you also did it cash or a rare 2 year deal, there were no 72/84 month deals or leases.

@@MichaelEilers $800 * 72 = 57,600. A $100k car, with 0% interest would take 125 months to be $800 per month. A $100k loan, for 72 months is nearly $1400 a month, minimum.

Who is this "we"? You got a mouse in your pocket? The correct term is "you".

You guys don't have multiple cars? Fake car nerd spotted!

I got a car and a long bed truck.