How ASUS scams their 2023 laptop customers 

haha thanks, tho I feel the opposite, if I knew this was gonna get more than 1k views I would have put in a bit of effort and made it more visual

The visuals are secondary. Its the finding and what you say that is interesting!

It's not about HDR, it's about MiniLED, miniLED matters to everyone whether they are in SDR or HDR

Big tech(s) with reputable and prestigious brand image can do whatever they want to consumers. Maybe they will blink if it is an order of thousands of units from a company/university. Other than that, don't even try.

nice you copied my name

its not only theft its a theft in a day light

"Asus is being intentional about it; Nebula HDR does not imply the presence of mini LED technology."

Your gut feeling is probably right and those countries will most likely be the least developed countries.

...india

​@@user-tb5qk9fe1jyou should get some knowledge

Is this really it?

How about NM042?

@@slnsay5495any NM… should be a Mini LED display

@@_Ashler ty

Indeed, mine said 1100, but the color calibrator I borrowed measured 400

You’d have to be an idiot to not know one is “HDR” aka mini led and one is not.

1100 NITS of brightness only works in HDR profile and only to some specific areas where the image or video output is very bright. Let’s say the moon in the dark sky. Depending on how much area is covered by the moon on the whole screen the brightness will increase. If the moon is visible on the whole screen then the brightness from the moon would be around. 400-500 nits. But if the moon is visible only in an inch square area of the screen then it might give you upto 1100 nits. That’s why it is called HDR 1000, because it works only while using HDR mode. Not whole screen will give 1100 nits of brightness. The screen only gives power to a specific area where the colour range is at brightest to provide dynamic range between brighter and darker areas.

@@rajatchaudhuri even my gramma knows that, what's your point?

@@Niberspace so why you ask if u already knows that

Came for a tech roast, stayed for the waves.

do you have any examples to share?

I'm afraid I don't remember, I sent it back the same day I made that video

They promise military build quality but didn't say which military.

North Korean!😁 @@Tom_Quixote

lol military grade is terrible believe it or not, most military things are old and outdated

Sure, but then when you look at let's say a RU-vid review it might not be clear if they are reviewing the same specs or a different model number

Wow so it really isn't just the particular website that I ordered from then, totally outrageous, I can't believe no one is talking about this scam

Wow, what region was this?

UK@@Niberspace

Clarification, "I still think Asus makes the best physical stuff" should be, "I think Asus has the ability to make some of the best stuff, the lower the price is though, the more, 'buyer beware' needs to be heeded. (although that is a general truth among all brands)

Carefully with Lenovo it's a Chinese company that has also had its own scandals Msi would be a better company if Asus is out

@@texboelsen7658 Lenovo is a strange creature. I found this interesting- "Lenovo is Chinese. Why aren't they sanctioned?" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5g7WrTuL5AQ.html

@@texboelsen7658 I could be wrong, my impression is- Lenovo's gaming laptops, Workforce (ThinkPads etc), Media, and Budget Models all have their own rank and reputation as far as Quality. (IMO- The Gaming and Workforce Laptops have a better reputation than their other models)

Well I'm just sharing my experience, I haven't looked into other models, I got out of ASUS the second I got my refund

Outrageous, especially considering that the average consumer (who's never seen a miniLED) won't be able to know that they've been scammed. What country was that?

@@Niberspace I know shocking, and I’m based UK

​@@SURG3NTwhat model was yours ive got one comeing tomoz G634JZ-NM041W it says its hdr miniled will have to check nits specs when it comes.

@@dandyer8351 I don’t have it anymore, u will know if it’s mini led as it’s 250hz screen, where as the IPS version is 240hz or 165hz

lol, I couldn't use that sound for 3d stuff, I can't even imagine trying to use it for anything audio related

Stick with MSI

Ouch!

kayanya itu tergantung Asus Indonesianya mau masukin SKU apa bang. tp marketingnya mantap sih apa lagi website globlalnya wkwk

Asus Indonesia agak mendingan mah. Seenggaknya kalau rusak ya diperbaiki. Pengalaman hape laptop.

There might be software solution for key rebind on system level. I think so

@@thecompanioncube4211 I tried looking, wasn't able to find any videos or anything

so did you get the mini-LED display in the end or do you have similar issues with blooming at the edges?

@@batmanonholiday4477 I got the mini led HDR 4090 version, there is a big problem with blooming on the screen not just the edges

@@aidancope8535 ouch! for the same money you could probably get the new legion i9 pro, but its a question if their screen is gonna be any better

Ouch, thansk for sharing

oh rly? People have told me that "many brands does this" but so far no one has given me a single example that is of significance, but what you mentioned of USB-C port is a good example

@@Niberspace well, keyboard backlighting meant a lot to me, as I never had it before but always wanted to, so they screwed me up there as well. If you watch video reviews on that laptop(even cheapest versions) they all have keyboard backlighting.

yeah it's true I kind of take that for granted, I guess would be hard to type without it@@TabalugaDragon

Indeed but at least the 100W keeps the graphics card somewhat active. I'm not doing anything crazy intensive in the car but I do want to be able to do some blueprinting in the unreal editor

Sure it says that, but are you sure it's not just the same scam story as here?

@@Niberspace well im planning to buy one soon

Just get it from a place where you could comfortably return it if needed.

@@penkatadrums I don't know if such a place exists, the store I bought from still had to communicate with ASUS and ASUS dragged it out for months

this video is about miniLED not about IPS

Oh god.. yes, that and the repair service that caused more damage than it repaired for me.. and the battery connector that just said goodbye by unplugging it for the 3rd time ever, the way it is intendet to unplug...

I'm ashamed to say it but I tried a Macbook instead as it was the only computer I could find locally that had miniLED. hoping to get back to a PC laptop if the market improves next year.

@@Niberspace Having Mini led was a requirement? Why not get 4k oled on other windows laptops In my case I'm planning to use a external monitor so the display quality of the laptop doesn't bother me as long is not trash like in your video.

Yes, I have an external OLED that I use for some things (high framerate stuff, or where blacklevels are crucial), but I definitely wouldn't want to look at an OLED all day, I jsut don't find them comfortable for the eyes @@LazerB.

@@Niberspace Mine instead is a "Qled" true glossy monitor. I've tried a Oled LG monitor and yeah they are very harsh to the eyes, so I ended up returning it and keeping the "Qled". But I gotta say, for some weird reason Oled on TV is a different story... Or at least With my Panasonic model, it's the harmless thing I've got in comparison. On everything else, monitors, laptops, tablets, phones...hits harder. Now getting back to mini Led laptops, I suggest you to look for the new MSI Titan 18... Supposedly has a good screen this year

Are you sure it's not just that on the TV you were viewing video while on the monitor you were viewing text? one reason why OLEDs give headaches is because the different colors are slightly apart, but you only notice it with sharp text, not in movies@@LazerB.

v tom aby se prase vyznalo. I was about to buy the ROG Strix 18 (not scar), as an upgrade for my 2019 ROG strix 17. I wasn't really aware that the difference between the nebula and nebula hdr is apparently so huge.

M in G634JY-NM015W is mini led, W is windows.

@@Fordance100 very helpful, thanks!!!

ouch, bad times we are in where problems are so normal, meanwhile my Acer laptop from 2012 lasted all the way until I retired it in 2019

Oh wow that price sounds amazing, so I agree with your choice to keep it, assuming that you either don't have the GPU whine noise issue or that you can live with it. Trying to emulate HDR sounds like a horrible idea tho, but maybe I've missunderstood what you mean. I think you'll just have to use it with an external HDR miniLED monitor

@Niberspace Yes you're right. That is probably my best option.

I couldn't, I had to settle for a Mac since I simply needed the miniLED monitor (their Retina is basically their word for miniLED), but I'm still hoping there will be a decent PC laptop early next year so I can sell the Macbook for it

I am getting a non mini led model with a 3060, please would you recommend the flow x16, is there a huge difference between the mini led hdr model and normal ips one

Wow yeah that SEA example is at a whole other ballpark than my New Zealand example. At least I don't think they are sending rejects to NZ, I think they're just using lesser specs (tho the coilwhine I have no explanation for)

Indeed they seem to all have cons this year. I had no choice but to go with a Macbook this year, but I'm hoping to sell it if there are any good PC laptops out in 2024

@@Niberspace I will also wait till next year for Lenovo Legion's prices to come down a bit and also many Laptop models are still yet to arrive.

Alienware/Dell software is literal ass. Not just with me, also with JarrodTech too, you're better off with a legion or a LOQ

Do research these days before buying anything of real value. Glad you saved yourself some grief.

That's interesting, I wonder if they even admit to the coil whine existing or if they are just pretending that it's just "acceptable fan noise level"

There's an answer to that but it would probably be simpler if you watched the full video

I always doing this when buying laptop. I can't trust seller.

this is sad to hear, Ive own my 2060 115w form asus for 3 yrs now and dont have any problems with it the srgb is 100% and unlike the alienware brand taht I had before that suffered bleeding there is no bleeding on the screen on the unit that I got. This is my 4th gaming laptop and so fae this is the only laptop that has no bleed lol.

Yes, a "mistake". ;)

@@Niberspace Thankfully you got a total refund for the product

hmm mine had the touchscreen touch pads, never heard of transparent key caps.

But did you not watch my video? I show the screen in my video and surely you don't think that looks pretty okay? also i showed the coil wine

I did, but I was gonna get the Strix g18 and I'm hoping that after a few months, they have those issues sorted out. I am thankful for your video and the reviews highlighting this issue because it gives me a better insight into what to expect. The main issue I'm having with this is that if I go to America and bring the laptop back, what if it has all these issues? I know many people said in the reviews that their screen didn't have that terrible glow or coil whine, but I won't be able to request a refund or replacement, which I fear is likely because I'm planning to buy the cyber Monday sale for 2000, which is 500 off meaning they can use bad models to get rid of them knowing asus.@@Niberspace

@@Real_Minecrafterthis issue has been with then for months now. Even if you get it replaced, they will somehow fuck it up.

Their ROG Ally burnt up the sd memory cards too... Wtf is up with Asus?

I'm afraid there's no good ones out there this year as far as I can see, hopefully someone in the comment section can suggest something

@@Niberspace thank you. What about last year?

i can't remember, I sent that back over a year ago and haven't even glanced at ASUS stuff since

Wow first real example of non-ASUS doing this BS. That's shocking, 45% NTSC wow that's ridicolously low

@@Niberspace Lenovo were pretty bad a few years back - it was literally a lottery. I used to order ThinkPads for new employees - I'd sometimes order the same laptop a couple of weeks apart, one would come with a gorgeous IPS display, another would come with a TFT panel (which you'd have to be sitting straight in front of in order to see anything on the screen). Lenovo are much better these days - they clearly give you the option to choose which panel you want now (and charge you accordingly).

I'm afraid I don't know since I just sent it back to PBtech and let them handle that stuff so I've never dealt with Asus directly, and after this laptop I've stayed well clear of any future ASUS products so hopefully I'll never find out. Luckily in NZ we have the CGA law so we have some leverage if some company tries to screw you over regarding warranty

@Niberspace Thanks heaps, literally everything I am reading online is telling me to avoid Asus, your comment solidifys this. Enjoy the cold wet Dunedin day we are having ! I do appreciate your help 🙏 😊 I will just have to stick with my original plan of buying the new Dell XPS 16.

well doesn't sound like the same problem but for sure i'm not gonna go ASUS again. People seem to be recommending Lenovo and Alienware

That's the question I want to know as well, I couldn't find any MiniLED with USB-C charging so I had to settle for a Macbook, I'm hoping to sell it next year if there are any decent PC laptops out by then

@@Niberspace I was considering macbook but I want to use a 3d scanner with it, and there is no support for Mac with the higher end scanner. I honestly think you have a new niche here is to do tech reviews inside cars with great backdrops. Great presentation ... i look forward to more content from you

@@thatonesnowboarde Thanks, yeah I have a super studio that I'm renovating to be the perfect place to review stuff, but progress is slow so honestly starting to think "why not just do them all from my car instead"

@@Niberspace I like it, its much different than most reviews in the studio, I have already been looking into other brands as this time I wasn't going to find myself stuck on only buying asus, but like you said there isn't too many options this year and being overseas currently makes it harder to find the newer models.

Well they did replace it in full, it was just that the brand new replacement one had the same issue. Yeah if you only connect it to external monitor then I can see this super old/bad monitor working, tho for me I use a desktop computer for that.

temporarily a Macbook because I was in a real hurry before my travel assignment, but hoping to sell it later and buy a PC laptop not sure what, some commentors are recommending Lenova

indeed, yet 2 of them slipped through ASUS "Quality assurance"

@@Niberspace Lenovo quality control unfortunately isn't perfect either. I had issues with backlight bleed and had the thermal assembly replaced after a year of use within warranty because of a noisy fan bearing.

Sad to hear. so many laptops I bought in the old days just worked forever or until you spilled juice on the keyboard@@Max_Mustermann

oh that wasn't the fannoise, I was showing the coil whine from the GPU. but still, lol

You might be right, but you are the first person I've heard say that, whereas I've heard tons of people say that Scar 16 (2023) screen depends on region. Anyway I can't even phantom why they would make a IPS version in 2023 at all, it's so outdated

Yes!! me too, but unfortunately they don't sell in New Zealand but maybe some day

​@@NiberspaceI ordered a ZenBook pro 14 ux6404vv from Asus Sweden and turns out CPU has a 65w cTDP and can't even sustain that 65w. Notebookcheckreview made a review and it should hold 90w CPU long term and 120w short burst. Yet it maxes at 65w ans drops to 51w!!!!!!!! The level of scam at Asus is insane! 13 000 Cinebench in 2023 that's fraud

@@Niberspace Well, you can have a look at clevo/tong fang laptops. They too have upgradble components. Also, framework laptops are limited to 100w GPU's, which is not a whole lot on gaming laptops. I do have hope for them but right now, they're years behind on the value proposition.

Ah yes please do

Did you get it bro? Please let me know how good the mini led is? Thanks

@@ananttomar1865 it’s coming through bluedart and expected delivery date is 1st of July. Most probably I will also share my review on my channel

@@rajatchaudhuri thanks! Will be looking out for it

@@ananttomar1865 there are 2 models of scar with RTX 4080. Make sure you buy the model which has “NM” in the model name because it is the one with mini LED. The model with N4 in its model name doesn’t have Mini LED.

hey i Commented this , you're not alone Asus is the biggest Scam ever, i bought a ROG Strix G15 2070super, and man I've had this piece of garbage for 2 years and I've been struggling with this laptop for 2 years, our country doesn't have good ASUS support so i took this laptop to repair shops more times than i can count, Recoil wine started to show after 1 year, processors getting too hot ( CPU&GPU above 85 celsius degrees ) , the metal thermal paste or whatever was not helping or wasn't applied correctly, the GPU-Fan blew up because of this heat, i changed it (i couldn't use the laptop for 2 months cause that's how long it took for the stock fans to arrive, and now after 2 months of changing it i already feel like the GPU fan is already getting busted like the last time) , aside from keeping away from ASUS, if you are a serious gamer , like you work with a laptop more than 3 h/day on average keep away from laptops in general, even if you assemble a pc , still stay away from Asus as a Brand . as long as they don't think up sth other than air cooled system for laptops , don't even get close to laptops for gaming , it has a short lifespan , it is a pain to maintain and expensive to repair , and you can't change any components (expect for Ram and memory) and it's overall a bad investment , PC all the way is the Master-Race of gaming !!!

I went with the legion 7i gen 8

WOW! Did you see the part of this video where I showed my screen? I would be very curious if my screen is identical to that last one you had, because all 4 corners looks terrible, and that was the case on both of my units. Interesting that Alienware is good, does it charge from USB-C?

No it doesn't, that's one of the bad parts of the m series it's ships with the brick power supply, go8ng to invest in the slim power bank should make everything alot better as far as moving it around or traveling.. and yes I took pictures ill see if I can post them..

Yes and that's pretty much how mine looked. Now I'm waiting on the asus ally and everyone's having a bad experience with it so far. ASUS is really falling apart..

@@swaggkuconspiracies7649 oh you went with ASUS again? I'm surprised, as you say it feels very obivous they are falling apart. it wouldn't surprise me if they are intentionally trying to send out a bunch of scams before filing for bankruptcy (as then people won't be able to return their products)

Lol, yeah just wanted to experience the handheld, hopefully it's not as bad as there laptops. Fingers crossed 🤞