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How can we build a footer that is above the frost line? 

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@shenanigans8apeach
@shenanigans8apeach 7 месяцев назад
You should start explaining why things are done the way they are and maybe the differences. This would make it more educational.
@josephrottina1901
@josephrottina1901 2 года назад
Nice work brother. Keep the videos coming.👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@Dozz70
@Dozz70 2 года назад
Came onto your channel because I'm looking to do a Red Iron Metal Building and was checking concrete work and you showed up. Happy you did....love the channel and content. New Sub here. Thank You Mark in Florida.
@royordway9157
@royordway9157 2 года назад
If you have good drainage under the footing and drain tile around the footing with the drain tile covered with stone and filter fabric or hay on top of the stone to keep the dirt from filling the voids in the stone up, you won't have water or wet dirt under the foundation to heave it up. Then you put you 2" foam board sloped away from the foundation to further shed the water, then put a good compactable dirt one or more feet thick onto of the foam sloped away from the foundation. The foundation drain tile/pipe should not be the black coil crap, use schedule 20 or 40 perforated pipe with the holes down and make sure it slopes away from the foundation. Another thing not to do within 4 or 5' from the foundation is plant shrubs or trees. Their roots will grow right into the perimeter drain and clog it up. There are garages, roads and driveways built all of the time with no "footing" below the frost line. If the drainage is right, there won't be any water to freeze so there is no heaving. I live in Maine and have been building 46 years and we have never had a problem building this way. Even if you have a foundation below the frost line, you have to do the drainage right and keep shrubs away from the foundation. Another thing to think about is if this method didn't work, you couldn't get a building permit.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
Me and you are definitely on the same page. That is exactly how I do these foundations 👍
@royordway9157
@royordway9157 2 года назад
@@bondobuilt386 We'd get along great on a job. I was always taught that you build on the ground or under the ground. It's all about the drainage. I have talked to people who are going to build a house and said to them to get good drainage. Use lots of stone and pipe and take it to daylight. Use the best pipe and keep plants with big roots away from the foundation. Lots of times they replay with it's too expensive. If you don't have a good foundation, roof and weathertight walls, why bother building new.
@apilkey
@apilkey Год назад
@@royordway9157 does that go for fences as well? I’m looking to put up a fence but don’t want to dig my fourth fence posts down 42 inches. Or I was thinking putting a concrete retaining wall along the property line about 18” high then building the fence on top of that. With the retaining wall have to be 42 inches down as well? or could I just dig a shallow trench put some rock and then pour concrete on top so the concrete is only like 6 inches below the surface and sticks up above the surface 1ft?
@grazzer1673
@grazzer1673 Год назад
Totally agree that drainage is crucial. Out of curiosity, why would have face the perforated pipe holes downward? In landscaping, we always face the holes upward so that the water can drain into them, then the slope of the pipe itself ensures that the water drains as desired. That's the purpose the holes in the first place.
@charlesviner1565
@charlesviner1565 2 года назад
Here comes the mud 👍,that's when I hit the like 👍 🎯
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
Thanks
@MegsCarpentry-lovedogs
@MegsCarpentry-lovedogs 2 года назад
Looking forward to the next bit of the frost protected foundation trick with the "wing insulation" technique. I bookemarled your other vid on it and will show all your "wing insulation" technique vids to the carpenter and ICF contractor before the ICF extension will allegedly be build come Spring 2023. Do you think it is over kill having wing insulation for an ICF full basement wall and where all the ICF above ground wall goes right up to where the trussus will be placed? Same as you, 4 foot rule for frost here on Prince Edward Island, just up North from you. Researching wing insulation techniques points out a 4 degree slant of the 2 or 4 foot "wing" so water runs away from the side of the basement wall. Keeping that wall and soil around it dry is very important. Also, it is the geothermal heat that gets trapped under the angled wing insulation that also helps keep the ground dry and warm. A 2 foot deep wing insulation starts at the wall and with the slope the end of the wing is deeper. I guess frost travels at a 30 degree angle? True or have you read differently? Why I am mentioning this is because it would be advantageous to use your idea of making sure the wing is very long, like 4 feet instead of 2. Cheers from Atlantic Canada. Really appreciate your video's and making sure we see how rebar is wired properly etc. 💯👍🙏🇨🇦
@jimanderson4495
@jimanderson4495 2 года назад
Ronny… keep us posted. Well , back to rebar protector production. Thanks
@abacab87
@abacab87 11 месяцев назад
In michigan we only need to go down 14" below grade with 5.7 R value, no foam needs to be laid flat. Our frost/freeze protection is normally 42" on a conventional footing.
@sidmorgan4980
@sidmorgan4980 2 года назад
I did the same thing , but dug by hand and cement mixer on a double wide house for skiter
@CCTOutdoorServices
@CCTOutdoorServices 2 года назад
These are the types of videos, that get me going with making my own RU-vid videos !
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
Awesome 🖐
@YAWN....
@YAWN.... 10 месяцев назад
Aww, how cute
@Zeus2018.
@Zeus2018. 2 года назад
Hey Bondo love the channel been doing concrete for 6 ish years so don’t have the experience you have. I have a question tho why do you put your spreaders on before the re bar?? Wouldn’t it be easier to throw the bar in there and bend the corners then do the spreaders to tie up too? Let me know why you do the process you do please no judgement just wondering?!? We pound re barb dowels into the ground and tie the bar to the dowels and then do spreaders after words lmk why you do it the way you do. thanks again and love the channel keep it up!!
@GRUBB-MUDD
@GRUBB-MUDD 2 года назад
there u go bondo, sliding in, looks good from indy. nah real talk nice job
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
Thanks bud
@plumbbuildrenovate
@plumbbuildrenovate 2 года назад
Bruce the Doberman!
@bullflagbuyer
@bullflagbuyer 2 года назад
Here comes the muuud!! Lol that was an awesome commercial
@jackmill4235
@jackmill4235 2 года назад
We got two dogs with us today Rotor and Rooter, and we can smell the mud.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
LOL
@gargar8196
@gargar8196 2 года назад
Good job 👍
@VenturaIT
@VenturaIT Год назад
So the foam prevents the cold from the air freezing the ground? It doesn't freeze at all where the foam is?
@butopiatoo
@butopiatoo 2 года назад
Nice What's the width and depth of the footer 10"x24"? Thanks.
@cdpexcavatingservicesllc714
Can I ask why not use Helical Piles and pour on that? Helical pile would be below frost line
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 Год назад
I never have done it that way. Sounds interesting though. This house foundation was engineered this way and I followed the drawings.
@cdpexcavatingservicesllc714
It saves a ton of time and work . Magic Mike and his "Pepsi " . I have been friends with Mike for years.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 Год назад
@@cdpexcavatingservicesllc714 Yup he likes those Pepsis LOL
@stephenaustin5525
@stephenaustin5525 5 месяцев назад
I'm from Elmira. did concrete in Phx sizzle, sizzle
@jeronimomod156
@jeronimomod156 Год назад
☝🏽 you should have panned out some of that dirt you dug out ☝🏽 you know damn well there should be some gold in there 🤤
@shavonnehurst4752
@shavonnehurst4752 2 года назад
If my footing is below the required grade for my county, is there anything I can put on top of the footers to make to above frost line?
@PassiveProfits
@PassiveProfits 2 года назад
what part of ny state? How deep is the frost line over there?
@pitbull4029
@pitbull4029 2 года назад
Do you use veritcal rebar too tie in the walls ?
@andreycham4797
@andreycham4797 2 года назад
do you check soil condition , if it needs some compactor love ?
@jamesrogers4674
@jamesrogers4674 2 года назад
Why would they allow it to not be as deep just because of foam on the outside perimeter? Is that because theoretically it should hold heat within in the winter? How thick is the foam?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
2" foam and basically the foam takes the place of all that dirt and stops the frost from penetrating and heaving the footer.
@jamesrogers4674
@jamesrogers4674 2 года назад
@@bondobuilt386 thanks for the response. Think you could do a video on that part? It's kinda hard to believe that it would actually do anything. If I saw the full concept I might get it though. Where the foam is actually placed and how it's oriented to stop frost from penetrating?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
@@jamesrogers4674 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1_IiYCk_WNk.html I have made a build series on frost protected foundation.
@KingSobieski
@KingSobieski 2 года назад
Why didn't they scrape down the top soil before digging a trench around it?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
The homeowner thought he got it all but the garage had a little he missed
@pacodefrancis7235
@pacodefrancis7235 2 года назад
at $50 a sheet for ground-rated 2" blueboard you're not saving that much money haha. And yes oh yes, those rocks are much like what you find here in Central VT when we dig foundations. That's why i prefer a floating haunched edge slab. Very sturdy and stable with a foam curtain
@gdotone1
@gdotone1 2 года назад
ever used concrete from a volumetric mixer?
@glenlongstreet7
@glenlongstreet7 2 года назад
I would not like to work for a disturbed customer. I did not watch that video, because I have enough problems. But yes, not working for an abusive customer is the right thing to do.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
Thanks you should watch it. Its a good story.
@AKatawazi2
@AKatawazi2 2 года назад
Have you tried the micro rebar stuff instead of rebar?
@pacodefrancis7235
@pacodefrancis7235 2 года назад
No where near as strong as true 1/2" bar. It's not worth the pennies you'd save in cost.
@AKatawazi2
@AKatawazi2 2 года назад
@@pacodefrancis7235 is this a true statement? Also the key benefit is perhaps not having it rust out because it’s stainless steel and it’s way earlier to install.
@pacodefrancis7235
@pacodefrancis7235 2 года назад
@@AKatawazi2 you do not want to put stainless in a foundation. You want galvanized
@ToddBizCoach
@ToddBizCoach 2 года назад
Why don t you use Helix micro rebar to save time,labor.
@cornpop7805
@cornpop7805 2 года назад
Micro-rebar works in walls, but I believe the foundation really needs traditional rebar. I believe the same is true for reinforcing above openings and other spans. You certainly wouldn't want the foundation to fail and loose its ability to carry the load.
@ToddBizCoach
@ToddBizCoach 2 года назад
@@cornpop7805 Helix micro rebar has been used in slabs and foundations and is stronger than traditional rebar. Check out the stats on it.
@cornpop7805
@cornpop7805 2 года назад
@@ToddBizCoach Perhaps you're right...
@PrinceSimmons-zy1hg
@PrinceSimmons-zy1hg 7 месяцев назад
Y is grass in the garage side and not in the house side
@CCTOutdoorServices
@CCTOutdoorServices 2 года назад
Ur one of the main reasons why I started my RU-vid channel sir !
@stevejobs3559
@stevejobs3559 2 года назад
spam spam spam
@chrisrhodes5092
@chrisrhodes5092 2 года назад
@@stevejobs3559 😄
@robertpeters1510
@robertpeters1510 2 года назад
i believe the foam board will eventually become water logged and loose it's insulative quality
@YAWN....
@YAWN.... 10 месяцев назад
Lose
@PrinceSimmons-zy1hg
@PrinceSimmons-zy1hg 7 месяцев назад
Y is grass in the garage side not the house side
@alphaviews4639
@alphaviews4639 2 года назад
Why not just go down 4 feet and never have to worry about insulation failing?
@cdawg9149
@cdawg9149 2 года назад
I take it there are no earthquakes in that part of the country?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
no we do not get them here
@CCTOutdoorServices
@CCTOutdoorServices 2 года назад
We for real need to make a collaboration! That be so awesome ! 🤙🏼
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
yes it would.
@rudyjhughes
@rudyjhughes Год назад
He didn’t bother removing the overburden?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 Год назад
The overburden was stripped after the walls were poured and before it was backfilled and floors were poured.
@CCTOutdoorServices
@CCTOutdoorServices 2 года назад
What app do you use ? I use iMovie and this is how my videos come out like
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
I use iMovie as well bud
@CCTOutdoorServices
@CCTOutdoorServices 2 года назад
Ur inspiration boss, you inspire me to keep going with my RU-vid videos
@kevinmorrow2071
@kevinmorrow2071 2 года назад
Frost will push that pea stone off to the side in end fail on our side walls and foundation
@KingSobieski
@KingSobieski 2 года назад
Ya that shoulda all been compacted before framing.
@cornpop7805
@cornpop7805 2 года назад
Because they are using the tried and true (FPSF) Frost Protected Shallow Foundation (Nordic method), frost will never make it anywhere near the foundation.
@KingSobieski
@KingSobieski 2 года назад
@@cornpop7805 idk cornpop. Pea gravel isn't a good material for compaction. Better off with a dense pack and a plate compactor to prep the trench vs tossing some gravel after the fact. At best the pea gravel will just blend with the soil and mostly disappear. It's just like ball bearings or marbles.
@cornpop7805
@cornpop7805 2 года назад
@@KingSobieski I'm not saying it's the right choice of gravel, but I suspect it does have to be free draining because I believe the goal is to quickly rid water from under the footer. It's basically a french drain under the footer that has to see daylight in order to evacuate the water quickly. The above insulation keeps the shallow ground from loosing the heat that is present a lower depths. Together, the insulation, the French drain, and the higher temperatures at deaper depths protect the shallow foundation from seeing frost.
@KingSobieski
@KingSobieski 2 года назад
@@cornpop7805 crushed rock drains the same as round rock
@stephenlandsteiner886
@stephenlandsteiner886 2 года назад
Footings
@av1204
@av1204 2 года назад
that is a big footer. more yards than my slab
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
yes it was a big one.
@kevinmorrow2071
@kevinmorrow2071 2 года назад
This type of foundation is new but old and has many issues
@MegsCarpentry-lovedogs
@MegsCarpentry-lovedogs 2 года назад
What are these issue Kevin? If the wing is 4 feet long then frost will not have a chance to get under neath and the soil under the wing will be dry so therefore no wetness means no frost heaving issues. Make the wing insulation 4 feet{not only 2 feet) and 4 degree angle to get any wetness to drain away from the wall, and plus the angle will help trap the geothermal heat further helping to keep the ground dry. We shall see what he does in his next video. Lots of work and paying attention to detail to get all this work done! Whoosh!! Cheers from Atlantic Canada.👍🇨🇦
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
@@MegsCarpentry-lovedogs We also put a perimeter drain along the footer and take that to daylight
@MegsCarpentry-lovedogs
@MegsCarpentry-lovedogs 2 года назад
@@bondobuilt386 Yes, always a drain just in case and to daylight quite a bit a ways from the building foundation. You are the pro Bondo!💯🙏🇨🇦
@onlyscience7120
@onlyscience7120 2 года назад
Frost lines must be adjusted for climate change, 36 inches in New Jersey should be reduced to 12 inches.
@cornpop7805
@cornpop7805 2 года назад
Surely you're kidding about adjusting foundation depths, based on such a farce?
@stephenlandsteiner886
@stephenlandsteiner886 2 года назад
Styrofoam
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